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[00:11:53] Хрюндель (джангист): Кто то django-voting юзает?
[00:13:36] red-agent: /me вобще не любит сторонние аппсы к джанге, свои велосипеды - заебатее
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[00:14:04] Хрюндель (джангист): red-agent, а есть у тебя свой велосипедик на эту тему?
[00:14:31] sevenov: ага, свои велосипеды с квадратными колесами ))
А вообще, да - забугорная писанина - ужас
[00:14:49] Grand_dizel: привет подскажите плиз для чего используется parameters.strip ?
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[00:17:51] gigimon: strip - убирает пробелы в конце
[00:18:22] gigimon: не спящие со слайсхостом есть?)
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[00:19:31] Хрюндель (джангист): gigimon, почему в конце? в конце вроде rstrip()
[00:20:13] gigimon: Хрюндель (джангист), эм.. а где тогда? я только что проверил. a = "dsad dasd "
[00:20:27] gigimon: a.strip() и получил без пробелов на конце
[00:20:30] Хрюндель (джангист): a = " dsad dasd "
[00:20:31] slav0nic: у кого на тектонике впс есть? шота дупляет жестоко 3 сутки
[00:21:01] gigimon: Хрюндель (джангист), значит убирае лишние)
[00:21:11] Хрюндель (джангист): slav0nic, bring up your account ))
[00:21:15] gigimon: оу
[00:21:15] slav0nic: ))
[00:21:19] gigimon: питон поменял дизайн сайта
[00:21:22] Хрюндель (джангист): slav0nic, это тебе там сказали?
[00:21:26] Хрюндель (джангист): gigimon, где
[00:21:32] gigimon: питонюорг
[00:21:32] Хрюндель (джангист): gigimon, ща заценим
[00:21:36] gigimon: python.org
[00:21:49] gigimon: а не
[00:21:50] slav0nic: да, года 3 как))
[00:21:53] gigimon: только на документации
[00:21:54] Хрюндель (джангист): лол
[00:21:59] gigimon: Хрюндель (джангист), docs.pytho.org
[00:22:05] gigimon: Хрюндель (джангист), docs.python.org
[00:22:14] red-agent: [00:21:13] Хрюндель (джангист): лол
[00:22:16] slav0nic: Хрюндель (джангист), да ёпта тупой янки сказал что б я не парился и у меня всё айс типа
[00:22:17] red-agent: именно, что лол
[00:22:18] Хрюндель (джангист): gigimon, да.. но доку поменяли для python3000 сначала, а теперь видать и на официально
[00:22:21] red-agent: они поменяли систему документации
[00:22:25] gigimon: а
[00:22:37] red-agent: она уже давно на /dev доках
[00:22:47] sevenov: бля, это давно уже
[00:22:49] slav0nic: сфинкс
[00:22:53] Хрюндель (джангист): red-agent, мы не местные, мы туда не смотрим ))
[00:23:01] red-agent: ну оно блять и видно
[00:23:05] red-agent: зачастую
[00:23:06] slav0nic: )
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[00:23:22] sevenov: =)
[00:23:29] red-agent: http://docs.python.org/contents.html - эта поваренная книга должна быть постоянно открыта
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[00:24:49] slav0nic: я пока на 2.6 не планирую переползать
[00:24:59] Хрюндель (джангист): slav0nic, а она уже юникодная?
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[00:25:33] red-agent: slav0nic: абсолютно однохуйственно
[00:25:42] red-agent: большенство применимо и к 2.5
[00:25:49] red-agent: а то, что не применимо - то об этом сказано
[00:26:20] Хрюндель (джангист): ну вообще дока гламурненькая такая получилась, приятней читать..
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[00:26:34] : slav0nic has set the subject to: Python.SU | Код постить в dumpz.org | Логи: http://xa4a.org.ua/logs/pythonua@conference.jabber.ru/ | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Разрешено не более 2 тупых вопросов в день от человека
[00:27:04] Хрюндель (джангист): red-agent, а ты уже перешёл на 2.6?
[00:27:09] red-agent: slav0nic: я про доку
[00:27:13] slav0nic: а
[00:27:15] slav0nic: дока да
[00:27:17] slav0nic: читаю) удобно
[00:27:27] slav0nic: старая ваще ужасно смотрится) хотя привык
[00:27:36] Хрюндель (джангист): да, старая меня пугала
[00:27:40] Хрюндель (джангист): отпугивала точнее
[00:27:43] slav0nic: в джанге вот неудобная=\
[00:27:51] red-agent: Хрюндель (джангист): нет
[00:27:54] Хрюндель (джангист): отпугивала и заставляла доебаться к вам товарищи
[00:28:27] slav0nic: пипец, aptitude update и лоад авередж на впс почти 2 )
[00:28:28] Хрюндель (джангист): slav0nic, не, в джанге тоже удобная новая, просто привыкнуть надо.. я уже примерно знаю что там и где
[00:28:49] slav0nic: сделалиб что-то типа содержания полного...
[00:29:01] Хрюндель (джангист): slav0nic, там поиск есть теперь хороший
[00:29:03] slav0nic: а то без поиска хер найдёшь
[00:29:06] slav0nic: угу
[00:29:49] Хрюндель (джангист): Так это.. Нет ничего больше голосовалок кроме как django-voting ?
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[00:30:28] xa4a: есть туториал
[00:30:31] xa4a: =)
[00:30:47] Хрюндель (джангист): xa4a, туториал по написанию реюзебл апс? ))
[00:31:05] xa4a: туториал по джанге
[00:31:10] xa4a: там же, вроде Poll?
[00:31:41] Хрюндель (джангист): xa4a, ты на досуге перечитываешь туториал по джанге? Я год назад читал.. щас гляну что там
[00:32:01] slav0nic: иногда полезно)
[00:32:11] slav0nic: по началам многое упускаешь)
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[00:35:04] Хрюндель (джангист): не ну можно конечно своё написать.. просто тут вроде как асы питона писали, может юзают там какие то хитрые алгоритмы, кэши и тд.. я то так не смогу, да и время нет. Один метод просто в django-voting не пашет, я думал может кто юзает его и сталкивался с проблемой.
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[00:43:18] slav0nic: Хрюндель (джангист), там самое хитрое point += 1 )))
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[00:44:44] xa4a: и то, тру его делать тригаерами в БД :)
[00:45:39] sevenov: xa4a: триггеры не везде нужны ;-))))
[00:46:05] red-agent: триггеры всякие важны, только нахуй не нужны
[00:48:24] xa4a: red-agent: врёшь. триггеры нужны для обеспечения целостности/реализации кеша
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[00:48:36] sevenov: неее, тригеры нужны ) особенно, если используешь прокси
[00:48:43] sevenov: точнее, без них там никуда )
[00:48:49] red-agent: да это я так, в качестве двустишья
[00:48:54] sevenov: ааа =)))
[00:53:09] slav0nic: у нас один долбоёб прославился
[00:53:15] slav0nic: в системе 5000 триггеров))
[00:53:29] sevenov: %-\
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[00:53:43] slav0nic: интересно как это всё отлаживать
[00:54:45] Хрюндель (джангист): slav0nic, здаётся мне что он одинми тригерами другие отлаживал, вот и набралось 5000
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[00:58:40] slav0nic: )
[00:59:27] xa4a: /me впервые в жизни встретил выражение "сосёт под ложечкой"
[00:59:34] slav0nic: )
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[01:04:25] red-agent: xa4a: это когда жрать хочется
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[01:05:28] xa4a: red-agent: это когда стрёмно и мандражирует
[01:05:42] red-agent: однохуйственно
[01:06:19] xa4a: нда, пох
[01:06:26] xa4a: но звучит :)
[01:08:13] Хрюндель (джангист): люди, на примете нет картинок плюсиков и минусов?
[01:08:27] Хрюндель (джангист): для голосовалки
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[01:09:41] xa4a: http://images.google.com/images?as_q=minus&;gbv=2&hl=ru&btnG=%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA+%D0%B2+Google&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgtype=&imgsz=icon&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=images&as_st=y
[01:10:32] Хрюндель (джангист): xa4a, о, красава. 10х
[01:10:55] sevenov: Хрюндель (джангист): http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/ui_design_and_usability/41030/
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[01:24:20] slav0nic: кстати по юзабилити книги есть какие-то?)
[01:25:03] sevenov: есть отличный блог: http://www.birzool.com/
[01:25:12] sevenov: а хороших книг не видел
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[03:53:05] red-agent: блять
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[03:53:09] red-agent: я ахуеваю
[03:53:51] red-agent: http://www.go-mono.com/docs/
[03:53:57] red-agent: сранный код расползается в FF
[03:53:58] red-agent: до пизды
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[11:20:58] slav0nic: PROFANITIES_LIST = ('asshat', 'asshead', 'asshole', 'cunt', 'fuck', 'gook', 'nigger', 'shit')
не ожидал я такого от девелоперов джанги ))
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[11:44:16] Лис: slav0nic, а чочо это?!
[11:44:29] slav0nic: стопслова для каментов
[11:44:34] slav0nic: тока узнал%)
[11:44:49] slav0nic: в глобал сеттинг лежит
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[13:07:50] Хрюндель (джангист): что то не могу найти, как узнать максимальное число дней в месяце?
date.max.day просто возвращает 31 всегда, в любом месяце..
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[13:13:43] slav0nic: In [4]: calendar.monthrange(2008, 11)
Out[4]: (5, 30)

[13:14:46] Хрюндель (джангист): slav0nic, мужик
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[13:14:57] sevenov: оО
[13:15:06] sevenov: Славоник мужик?
[13:15:09] sevenov: зуясе
[13:15:13] sevenov: *хуясе
[13:15:17] sevenov: :-D
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[13:32:19] wa7er: =)
[13:32:30] wa7er: привет ребят.
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[13:44:30] Хрюндель (джангист): что то странная у меня вьюшка получилась ))
@render_to('blog/list_post.html')
@paginate_style('object_list', per_page=3)
@by_date(model=Post)
def list_post(request, *args, **kwargs):
return {}

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[13:45:40] Лис: :)
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[13:57:13] sevenov: <xxx> Я одолжил девушке всё новое (для меня) аниме, в итоге у меня уже вторую неделю нет ни аниме, ни девушки. Где я затупил?
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[14:25:20] red-agent: http://www.linux.org.ru/view-message.jsp?msgid=3162813&;lastmod=1223722642656
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[14:37:44] sevenov: шикарно ))
[14:37:48] sevenov: питон рулит )
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[14:42:53] xa4a: хмхм
[14:43:03] xa4a: в гуглокоде подсветка синтаксиса поломанная
[14:43:13] sevenov: пруфлинк )))
[14:43:21] xa4a: http://code.google.com/p/couchdb-python/source/browse/trunk/couchdb/client.py?r=94 после 200-й строки
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[14:44:38] sevenov: хахах! Вот так-то делать абстракцию
[14:45:28] sevenov: и на 420й чинится )
[14:46:05] xa4a: магия..
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[14:46:38] sevenov: Ж)
[14:46:39] sevenov: :)
[14:46:46] xa4a: кстати, читать доктесты, оказывается, достаточно интересно
[14:46:49] xa4a: и познавательно
[14:46:54] xa4a: особенно если нет доки другой)
[14:48:13] xa4a: хм.. iter([item.id for item in self.view('_all_docs')]) это ведь аналогично (item.id for item in self.view('_all_docs')) ?
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[14:51:15] sevenov: ага, вчера только с этим ковырялся
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[15:08:19] slav0nic: xa4a, а где ты CouchDB пристроил?
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[15:23:36] xa4a: slav0nic: думаю сейчас сделать хранение логов бота в нём
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[16:04:35] Лис: http://warnet.ws/news/25466/comments/
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[16:13:08] sevenov: Лис: ниче так ))
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[16:26:20] tilarids: круто. А на чем они
[16:26:25] tilarids: это они делают?
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[17:19:05] sevenov: 1. есть база "base"
2. создал юзера "base_user"
3. дал ему права:
GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON DATABASE base to base_user;

либо творится волшебство, либо я, как всегда, в силу своей невнимательности, пропустил какую-то мелочь, хотя до этого не пропускал и уже бьюсь башкой оп стену.

base_user=> CREATE LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';
ERROR: нужно быть владельцем базы base
[17:19:36] sevenov: ну-ка, silent_bob, ответь на вопрос
[17:19:51] sevenov: silent_bob: погладь кота :)
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[17:24:25] kost-bebix: Привет всем. Есть кто, использующий ropemacs?
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[17:28:41] Лис: sevenov, это у тебя pgsql?
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[17:29:14] Лис: alter database base owner base_user;
[17:29:48] sevenov: а, ы :)
[17:29:51] sevenov: спасим
[17:31:27] sevenov: ну, ток там to еще надо )
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[17:41:33] Лис: ну да
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[17:56:57] sevenov: я вот сейчас подумал:
"Как же нужно уметь искусно врать, чтобы при вранье человеку говорили "ты не умеешь врать"" ]:>
[17:57:08] sevenov: я зол
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[17:57:58] sevenov: но мысль немного филосовская )
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[19:03:14] nuclear90: как при использовании hex() вывести не 0xA а просто A
[19:03:52] wiz: '0xA'[2:]
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[19:04:48] nuclear90: оО,че так все просто,а я так туплю :(
[19:04:50] nuclear90: :)
[19:04:58] nuclear90: спс
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[19:06:30] sevenov: nuclear90: хочешь погеморнее и поизвращеннее и неправильнее? :))
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[19:06:44] nuclear90: хачу не тупить :)
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[19:06:58] sevenov: :)
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[19:07:05] nuclear90: просто тут по си++ читал про флаги,вот и пришло на мысль
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[19:09:26] xa4a: нет, не так
[19:09:43] xa4a: nuclear90: использовать вместо hex - "%X" % 10
[19:10:20] nuclear90: а зачем?я уже при использовании hex сделал,но спс за подсказку )
[19:12:07] xa4a: In [3]: %timeit hex(10)[2:]
1000000 loops, best of 3: 478 ns per loop

In [4]: %timeit "%X" % 10
10000000 loops, best of 3: 46.2 ns per loop
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[19:12:20] xa4a: на порядок быстрее
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[19:21:10] sevenov: хмм, а я как раз это и хотел написать, но посчитал это за "поизвращеннее и неправильнее"
[19:21:39] sevenov: странный все-таки язык, python :) после плюсов немного непонятно :)
[19:21:44] Муркт: гыгычно, однако :))
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[19:23:46] Лис: xa4a, пацыг, а как ejabberd устроить hot code swap?
[19:24:06] xa4a: Лис: оно само, вроди
[19:24:13] xa4a: ну обыно ты новые файлеги подсовываешь
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[19:24:20] xa4a: и оно для новых процессов использует новый од
[19:24:32] xa4a: код
[19:24:37] xa4a: отя может и пнуть ндао
[19:24:37] Лис: гм
[19:24:40] xa4a: а, гм
[19:24:46] Лис: а как пнуть?
[19:24:50] xa4a: вызвать чо-то ндао
[19:24:52] xa4a: ща
[19:24:53] wiz: kill
[19:26:34] Лис: code:load_file(hot_swap1).
[19:26:45] Лис: но мля, там жыж скока файлов то изменено
[19:26:53] Лис: реально гелче просто ребутнуть
[19:27:06] Лис: (это мне на #erlang@freenode посоветовали)
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[19:27:42] Лис: you might be able to do it, but I'd just restart if I were you
[19:27:44] Лис: Ж)
[19:28:06] xa4a: хм
[19:28:13] xa4a: а может там достаточно скомплить просто модули
[19:28:23] xa4a: и тогда подхватит
[19:28:25] xa4a: хз
[19:28:27] xa4a: на вспомнить
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[19:30:57] xa4a: а ejabberd - c OTP написан?
[19:31:08] Лис: я понятия не имею
[19:31:10] Лис: %)
[19:31:26] Лис: kill -1 PID почему то завершил процесс
[19:31:32] Лис: падла :/
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[19:34:20] Лис: и ещё
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[19:34:34] Лис: почему то слетают настройки конференций нафиг :/
[19:34:48] Лис: хотя я прописал репликацию
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[20:10:30] Муркт: Поделюсь прекрасным.
zip(*([iter(iterable)]*(len(iterable)/8)))
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[20:12:14] wiz: г
[20:12:34] wiz: анахуа? (=
[20:12:44] Муркт: оно разбивает список на список списков по N элементов в каждом
[20:13:07] wiz: тогда izip надо наверно
[20:13:15] Муркт: изип не выдаёт список
[20:13:20] xa4a: len(iterable) <-- fail
[20:13:31] Муркт: xa4a: название не поменял
[20:13:38] Муркт: всё равно в код не пошло
[20:13:40] wiz: есть же сильно проще без зипов и прочей чухни
[20:13:41] Муркт: listable
[20:13:43] Муркт: :D
[20:13:47] Муркт: wiz: напомни
[20:13:47] xa4a: Муркт: фейл не в имени
[20:13:52] xa4a: фейл в неленивости
[20:14:14] Муркт: xa4a: я понимаю. Другим способом не получается в одну строку читаемо
[20:14:15] Муркт: вроде бы
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[20:14:24] wiz: http://dumpz.org/1305/
[20:14:58] Муркт: там такой же len используется.
[20:15:20] Муркт: плюс там не одна строка
[20:15:21] Муркт: =)
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[20:15:34] Муркт: wiz: fail
[20:15:46] xa4a: лучше бы не одну, но совсем ленивую :)
[20:15:56] Муркт: xa4a: легко
[20:16:05] Муркт: но оно не будет прекрасным :))
[20:16:16] xa4a: ну да, да..
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[20:17:46] Муркт: ощид
[20:17:53] Муркт: я там херню написал и не проверил её
[20:18:17] Муркт: xa4a: на самом деле всё гаразда просчи
[20:18:28] Муркт: zip(*([iter(iterable)]*N))
[20:18:39] Муркт: и лениво, и никаких тебе len-ов
[20:19:15] Муркт: даже вот так без одних скобок работает нормально:
zip(*[iter(iterable)]*8)
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[20:22:11] xa4a: только хавает последнюю группу, если неполная
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[20:22:28] Муркт: в ТЗ про последнюю группу ничего не было сказано
[20:22:40] Муркт: сказано было вообще, что элементов всегда кратно восьми
[20:22:49] xa4a: а..
[20:23:03] Муркт: питон не джава, чтоб проверять всякую херь по триста раз
[20:23:13] xa4a: ы..
[20:23:15] xa4a: типа
[20:23:34] xa4a: а теперь сделать, чтобы возвращался не список групп, а...
[20:23:38] xa4a: да! генератор!
[20:23:45] Муркт: xa4a: нужен был список
[20:24:00] Муркт: на izip легко переделать. И на izip_longest.
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[20:26:05] xa4a: >_<
[20:26:06] xa4a: таки да
[20:26:08] xa4a: аццко
[20:26:21] Муркт: что ">_<"? :)
[20:26:30] xa4a: аццко)
[20:26:37] Муркт: аццкая система?
[20:26:51] Муркт: я тоже пропёрся с [iter(iterable)]*8
[20:26:52] xa4a: угу.. ща подумать как оно работает..)
[20:27:02] Муркт: рассказать? :))
[20:27:06] xa4a: т.к. с izip таки получается ленивый генератор ленивых генераторов)
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[20:27:13] xa4a: та я сам раскручу)
[20:28:41] sevenov: эт вы че обсуждаете? оО
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[20:28:52] Муркт: zip(*[iter(iterable)]*N)
[20:28:55] Муркт: это
[20:28:58] xa4a: izip
[20:29:07] Муркт: ну пусть изип
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[20:29:25] xa4a: хм
[20:29:30] xa4a: кажется, уложил в мосх
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[20:31:58] Муркт: sevenov: пропёрся? :)
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[21:48:52] Хрюндель (джангист): как на английском будет бумажка, которая выдаётся вместе с зарплатой. ну типа распечатка такая мол сколько часов работал, какие налоги и тд?
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[21:50:41] sevenov: это называется расчетка по русски)
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[21:51:05] sevenov: точнее, Расчетно-платежная ведомость
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[21:51:44] Typhon: pay-sheet, pay-roll
[21:51:54] Хрюндель (джангист): pay-shit ))
[21:51:57] Typhon: лингво так платежную ведомость переводит
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[21:52:11] Хрюндель (джангист): Typhon, спасибо. pay-sheet вроде да, подходит
[21:52:28] Typhon: ага, и расчетную он так же переводит, так что скорее всего оно.ю
[21:52:31] sevenov: Accounting-Payroll
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[23:04:13] red-agent: что кошерно юзать для дистрибуции пайтон-аппсов
[23:04:18] red-agent: в частности небольших
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[23:07:36] xa4a: штука, которой делают setup.py install, или лучше, чтобы можно было достать через easy_install
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[23:14:41] Муркт: сетаптулз
[23:14:41] red-agent: ну это peakовская шняга
[23:14:41] Муркт: так ты про неё говорил?
[23:14:41] Муркт: гм
[23:14:41] Муркт: ну, это stdlib в 2.6 :)
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[23:16:42] red-agent: distutils
[23:16:51] Муркт: это было
[23:16:58] Муркт: а теперь сетаптулз
[23:18:02] red-agent: тоесть просто переименовали?
[23:18:08] Муркт: щито?
[23:18:19] red-agent: нищито
[23:18:23] Муркт: окей
[23:18:24] Муркт: лолшто?
[23:18:31] red-agent: лолничо.
[23:18:33] red-agent: :D
[23:18:40] Муркт: добавили сетаптулз в 2.6
[23:18:49] Муркт: а дистутилз - депрекейтед
[23:18:54] red-agent: понял
[23:19:04] red-agent: заебали эти миграции
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