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[00:06:46] Лис is now online
[00:07:26] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - What U Give U Get Back
[00:07:42] A2K: я вернулся
[00:07:45] A2K: скучали без меня?
[00:08:06] sevenov: A2K: мозилла гавно? :)
[00:08:17] A2K: ага
[00:08:32] sevenov: че-то ты рановато ))
[00:08:41] sevenov: /me бросил бросать пить :)
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[00:10:41] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Skywriter
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[00:16:32] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Mind Like a Tree
[00:17:01] A2K: это я уходил в винду играцо в dead space
[00:17:03] A2K: интересная игрушка
[00:17:47] sevenov: про что?
[00:19:48] A2K: что-то среднее между doom 3 и resident evil 4
[00:19:54] A2K: на космическом корабле :)
[00:20:00] sevenov: тогда не понравится )
[00:20:07] A2K: + немного от metroid
[00:20:18] A2K: и без темных коридоров..
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[00:20:20] sevenov: Эх, не было и не будет больше игр типа Кваки третьей )
[00:20:26] A2K: и не надо, ага :)
[00:20:27] sevenov: я думал, мясо какое )
[00:20:28] A2K: квака вечна
[00:20:33] sevenov: Ну да )
[00:20:43] A2K: дык, dead space - мясо!
[00:20:54] sevenov: Я люблю игры типа зашел, 15 минут погонял, оторвался и вышел
[00:21:02] sevenov: т.е. не на прохождение
[00:21:20] A2K: мне иногда требуется успокоить психику, а на бухло денег нет :(
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[00:21:39] A2K: ку3 в таких случаях не помогает
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[00:23:04] A2K: эх.. еще не прошел, вроде как последний уровень остался
[00:23:26] sevenov: хехе )
[00:24:09] A2K: игра простая, но атмосфера просто заставляет ходить медленно и рассматривать каждый угол...
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[00:28:05] sevenov: тем более, не нравится напрягаться )
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[00:31:22] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - But The Best For You
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[00:36:40] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Does Anyone Know
[00:37:24] A2K: doc - говно.
[00:37:32] A2K: и openoffice3 - говно
[00:37:39] A2K: за то оно умеет конвертить doc в pdf
[00:38:07] sevenov: О! Точно! Я ж Оо3 скачал. Совсем забыл, надо поставить )
[00:38:58] A2K: у меня оно какого-то хрена зависает если по менюшкам долго лазить
[00:39:10] sevenov: хм, ща потыкаю ))
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[00:43:04] sevenov: бля... скачал amd64 (
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[00:46:45] A2K: а что. в дистрибутиве нету еще?
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[00:47:46] sevenov: от инфры нет
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[00:51:11] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Oh Girl (I Wanna Be With You)
[00:52:12] A2K: мне что-то подсказывает что OOo делает пдфки не самым оптимальным способом..
[00:52:42] A2K: чем сделать djvu из doc?
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[01:04:21] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Time Will Call Your Name
[01:05:05] sevenov: а как в markdown сделать ссылку на картинку?
[01:05:20] sevenov: точнее, чтобы изображение было еще и ссылкой
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[01:06:15] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Obsession
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[01:06:41] A2K: ты у меня спрашиваешь чтоли?
[01:06:42] A2K: не скажу!
[01:07:05] sevenov: вообще, мб есть еще кто живой :)
[01:08:02] A2K: [](ссылка)
[01:08:04] A2K: не сработает?
[01:09:26] sevenov: хах ) сработало оО я думал парсер запнется об это. Еще один яркий пример, что думать не всегда полезно )
[01:09:57] A2K: sevenov, э, я просто открыл страницу википедии о маркдауне и впервые увидел его синтаксис...
[01:10:20] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - 10 Light Years Away
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[01:10:29] sevenov: да, а я вики даже не смотрел. Я тыкаю сразу http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#html
[01:11:08] A2K: я просто нажал на первую ссылку гугла )
[01:11:26] sevenov: :))))
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[01:55:04] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Aleyah
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[02:05:29] wiz is now dnd
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[02:10:21] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - No Pain No Gain
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[02:23:16] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - To Be No. 1
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[03:20:35] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Wild Child
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[07:52:47] dotice: всем утра!
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[08:00:38] лорд Морфий: Привет !!!
class SelectForm(forms.Form):
type = forms.ChoiceField(label=u'Тип', choices=equipments())
подскажите пожалуйста, как в джанге сделать чтобы equipments(), вызывалась каждый раз при выводе формы, а не однократно при ее инициализации ???
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[09:07:21] dotice is now Immortal - One By One
(from "Sons Of Northern Darkness")

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[09:12:20] dotice is now Immortal - One By One
(from "Sons Of Northern Darkness")

[09:12:21] dotice is now Immortal - Blashyrkh (Mighty Ravendark)
(from "Battles In The North")

[09:14:25] mishok13_ is now online
[09:15:18] mishok13_: * You have been killed by Manticore (([57595] Your nick, authentication info or other information matched one of the known trojan patterns.))
[09:15:24] mishok13_: ну и хуй с ним, с руснетом :)
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[09:15:56] Лис: хехе
[09:16:05] piranha is now Eat. Work. Keep silence. Obey.
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[09:16:56] dotice is now Immortal - Blashyrkh (Mighty Ravendark)
(from "Battles In The North")

[09:16:57] dotice is now Crematory - Dreams Of Dancing
(from "Illusions")

[09:17:17] mishok13_: пиздец, захожу с ssl
[09:17:19] mishok13_: о, пиранья
[09:17:31] mishok13_: piranha, вопрос по хукам в hg :)
[09:18:10] piranha: ага?
[09:18:29] mishok13_: можно ли в хг написать хук, который при коммите (hg pull, ватевер :) )будет запускать тесты (py.test/nose)
[09:18:43] mishok13_: ну и в случае фейла не пропускать коммит
[09:19:57] mishok13_: просто гугель мне в понедельник с утра ничего полезного не сообщает о хуках в меркуриале
[09:19:59] piranha: ага
[09:20:06] piranha: http://hgbook.red-bean.com/hgbookch10.html
[09:20:09] piranha: тут есть пример
[09:20:16] mishok13_: о, гуди-гуд
[09:20:18] mishok13_: спасибо
[09:20:22] piranha: тебе надо prectxchangegroup, если я тебя правильно понял
[09:20:38] mishok13_: вроде да
[09:20:48] piranha: а зачем на hg pull?
[09:20:49] piranha: )
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[09:20:55] mishok13_: тьфу, пуш :)
[09:21:03] mishok13_: айэмсори, я только на работу пришел
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[09:21:39] piranha: а, ну тогда не changegroup
[09:21:43] piranha: prectxcommit - это на коммите
[09:21:47] piranha: а на пуш... забыл %)
[09:22:20] mishok13_: пока что prectxcommit хватит
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(from "Illusions")

[09:22:27] dotice is now Children Of Bodom - Talk Dirty To Me
(from "Bodom Covers")

[09:22:28] piranha: ага
[09:22:45] mishok13_: будем-с экспериментировать
[09:23:17] dotice is now Children Of Bodom - Talk Dirty To Me
(from "Bodom Covers")

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[09:25:12] piranha: mishok13_: там в буке даж такой пример есть )
[09:25:25] piranha: грубо говоря - тупо запускай тесты, если они не пройдут, то коммит не пройдёт )
[09:25:55] mishok13_: http://ko-online.com.ua/node/39028
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[09:26:01] mishok13_: ну да
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[09:49:18] dotice: Кто-нить PyScripter'ом пользуется? у него реально BOM отключить при UTF-8?
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[09:52:32] mishok13_: http://www.tema.ru/jj/eliteconom.jpg
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[09:54:48] Лис: :D
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[09:55:09] Лис: http://osnews.com/story/20432/Google_Apple_Openly_Support_Fight_Against_Proposition_8_
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[09:58:01] mishok13_: ну эппл известные поборники прав геев и лесбиянок
[09:58:17] mishok13_: иначе кто бы их продукцией пользовался бы?
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[10:02:46] Лис: так и знал что гугл петторацы
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[10:10:58] piranha: падонги
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[10:11:03] piranha: tkinter кто-то юзал?
[10:11:14] piranha: меня не интересуют возмущения его внешним видом ;)
[10:11:31] piranha: просто сложилось впечатление, что оно самое простое из всех
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[10:14:30] Лис: и легковесное
[10:15:00] Лис: а вид таки можно немного причесать, что бы не резало глаз покрайней мере :)
[10:15:11] piranha: ну так а tk8.5 с tile-gtk выглядит хорошо
[10:15:46] piranha: http://www.ellogon.org/petasis/content/view/29/45/
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[11:14:20] Лис: http://www.energyball.ru/
[11:14:21] Лис: :D
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[11:16:32] piranha: лол
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[11:19:07] friday: Чёт я не понял, как им пользоваться:-)
[11:19:19] piranha: руками хватаешься и вращаешь
[11:19:21] piranha: ггг
[11:19:24] piranha: xa4a: ^^
[11:19:37] piranha: тока в 3 раза дороже
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[11:22:15] friday: Это для тех, у кого не хватает денег на машину:-)
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[11:23:04] piranha: в машине ты редко рулём вращаешь
[11:23:15] friday: Хоть не поездить, так просто так порулить:-)
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[11:23:43] piranha: ахахаха
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[11:23:48] piranha: приходи ко мне, я тебе дам порулить
[11:23:58] piranha: и посмотрим, как руки будешь тренировать )
[11:24:08] piranha: ты ж кисти там не разрабатываешь почти )
[11:24:09] friday: > в машине ты редко рулём вращаешь

Ну вот видишь - одни преимущества:-)
[11:24:12] piranha: вот картинг - это другое дело
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[11:29:17] Лис: как форсировать QS выполнить запрос к базе ещё раз?
[11:29:39] piranha: QS.Fuck_You
[11:29:45] piranha: не уверен, что можно вообще
[11:30:10] Лис: iterator() вызвать
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[11:30:41] piranha: а
[11:30:46] piranha: действтиельно
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[12:09:32] mishok13_: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/26/1610259
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[12:17:57] red-agent: это ржачь
[12:18:00] red-agent: $object_instance = new My\PEAR\Module("myvar");
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[12:18:52] Лис: :D
[12:19:18] Лис: "идиоты какие то" (с) наша раша
[12:19:30] slav0nic: http://midnight.nnm.ru/mehanicheskiiy_kalkulyator_curta
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[12:20:00] Лис: ^^ вот тож вариант был
[12:20:02] Лис: :D
[12:20:14] Лис: $object_instance = new My^^PEAR^^Module("myvar");
[12:20:17] Лис: :D
[12:20:49] Typhon: slav0nic: как у Гибсона прямо
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[12:21:29] piranha: OMG ^_^
[12:22:57] pzskc383: slav0nic, ну он про него рассказывал да.
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[12:27:22] mishok13_: там было еще :)
[12:27:23] mishok13_: :>
[12:27:25] mishok13_: :::
[12:27:27] mishok13_: ::::
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[12:27:58] Лис: :) тоже было
[12:28:13] mishok13_: так и представляю себе код в смайликах
[12:28:15] Лис: new My:)PEAR:)Module("myvar");
[12:28:18] Лис: :D
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[12:28:41] friday: ОМГ, похапе на питонуа!!!1
[12:28:45] Лис: похоже кому то свеженькую партию герыча пригнали
[12:28:58] Лис: friday, где?!
[12:29:18] friday: > new My:)PEAR:)Module("myvar");
[12:29:22] Лис: ибанись, это не пхп
[12:29:26] piranha: было бы по приколу разделять с ^_^ :-)
[12:29:33] piranha: My^_^PEAR^_^Module
[12:29:36] Лис: это мог бы быть пхп, но не стал :/
[12:29:40] Лис: а жаль
[12:29:43] piranha: ))))
[12:29:47] Лис: был бы самым смешным языком
[12:29:55] piranha: тода
[12:30:02] mishok13_: лолкод бы отсох
[12:30:08] piranha: sure
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[12:31:28] mishok13_: Java:
Attribute/Method access: foo.bar
Static method access: Foo.bar
Package access: foo.bar.baz

C#:
Attribute/Method access: foo.bar
Static method access: Foo.bar
Namespace access: foo.bar.baz

Python:
Attribute/Method access: foo.bar
Static method access: Foo.bar
Module access: foo.bar.baz

PHP:
Attribute/Method access: $foo->bar
Static method access: Foo::bar
Namespace access: foo\bar\baz
[12:31:29] mishok13_: ыыы
[12:31:52] Лис: бугага
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[12:47:51] mishok13_: http://www.vector.org.uk/archive/v214/sudoku.htm
[12:48:03] mishok13_: APL/J/K/A+ FTW!
[12:48:18] Лис: A Sudoku Solver
by Roger Hui
[12:48:20] Лис: ;D
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[13:14:11] lic: поскажите.. ща читаю про регистрацию пользователей http://cargo.caml.ru/djangobook/ch12s03.html
там она старая... и есть такое return render_to_response("registration/register.html", {
'form' : forms.FormWrapper(form, data, errors)
})
FormWrapper нету же в новых формах или он чем то заменился ?
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[13:28:40] Лис: slav0nic, а как ты под cherrypy джангу пускаешь?
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[13:29:36] slav0nic: взял у пираньи в репе менегра
[13:29:40] slav0nic: runcpserver
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[13:32:49] Лис: пнятно
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[13:34:02] Лис: жырновато как то получается
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[13:39:35] slav0nic: что именно?
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[13:51:02] Лис: http://netsago.org/ru/notes/2008/13/
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[13:52:59] Лис: кводлибет "тикёт"
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[14:35:47] mishok13_: а у меня не тикёт :)
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[14:37:03] Лис: у меня радио неделю играет онлайновое, 80Мб РАМ схавало
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[14:38:58] mishok13_: 132 байта в секунду
[14:39:01] mishok13_: многовато
[14:39:22] mishok13_: а радио там через плагин реализовано?
[14:40:40] Лис: та я не знаю
[14:40:52] Лис: оно при азпуске 35 жрёт
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[17:27:03] Лис:
- Папа, а нас коснется мировой финансовый кризис?
- Синку, це олiгархiв вiн тiльки "косньотся", а нам пIздец...
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[17:27:29] piranha: :-)
[17:27:38] piranha: пиздець, а не пiздец
[17:27:49] Лис: за что купил, за то продал
[17:28:04] piranha: :0
[17:28:05] piranha: :)
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[17:29:14] red-agent: Лис: по олигархам пиздануло тоже славно
[17:30:07] piranha: http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=18591
[17:30:16] red-agent: USE='moonlight' emerge -v mono
[17:30:23] red-agent: похоже я щас буду ботать сишарп х_Х
[17:31:07] piranha: дураг?!
[17:31:13] piranha: ой
[17:31:17] piranha: зачем?
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[17:31:43] red-agent: зачем, зачем....
[17:31:53] red-agent: не от хорошей жизни
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[17:32:27] piranha: :)
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[17:32:55] xa4a: moonlight ~= silverlight?
[17:33:02] piranha: да
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[17:35:27] red-agent: ставить monodevelop или сувать плагин для эклипса 8\
[17:36:05] red-agent: пиздец
[17:36:11] red-agent: 8-спейсовая идентация это пиздец
[17:36:15] red-agent: это что, для слепых?
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[17:41:27] red-agent: http://mono-project.com/Mono_For_Linux_Developers
[17:41:31] red-agent: отлично, 3 плагина
[17:41:59] red-agent: и 0 описаний
[17:43:26] tilarids: ставь monodevelop, там нормальная ide
[17:43:51] tilarids: и язык вполне себе ничего :)
[17:43:56] red-agent: да мне как-бы выгоднее плагин сунуть для эклипса
[17:44:01] red-agent: т.к. у меня там все проэкты
[17:44:09] red-agent: python/C
[17:44:21] tilarids: а. eclipse - тормозяка
[17:44:32] tilarids: monodevelop быстрее работает
[17:44:37] red-agent: да мне похуй
[17:44:44] tilarids: оно хоть и на моно, но через гтк
[17:44:52] red-agent: я не время работы засекать собираюсь =)
[17:44:57] tilarids: ну, как хочешь. Меня эклипс иногда выводит :)
[17:45:09] tilarids: Беспокоюсь о твоем здоровье
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[17:45:23] red-agent: с ним нужно уметь правильно обращатся
[17:45:28] piranha: я умею
[17:45:36] piranha: rm -rf называется
[17:45:39] A2K: kwrite лучше
[17:45:45] piranha: A2K: ed
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[17:45:54] A2K: piranha, картинки в меню?
[17:45:55] piranha: ed >> kwrite, попробуй оспорь
[17:46:06] piranha: A2K: ага, побитово можно их нарисовать
[17:46:13] A2K: ха-ха
[17:46:18] piranha: A2K: возможность работать только с принтером, без монитора!
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[17:46:22] piranha: в кврайте можно?
[17:46:36] A2K: вообще-то да
[17:46:45] piranha: поподробнее
[17:46:50] A2K: набираешь текст, ctrl+p :)
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[17:47:20] piranha: A2K: а если отредактировать?
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[17:47:34] A2K: отсчитываешь символы..
[17:47:39] A2K: заменяешь
[17:47:43] piranha: ну вот
[17:47:47] piranha: представь, что ты один раз промазал
[17:47:55] piranha: а в документе стопицот страниц
[17:48:00] piranha: ну собсна ничо не получицо
[17:48:02] A2K: не обязательно печатать все
[17:48:05] xa4a: главное печатать почаще
[17:48:09] red-agent: тут есть какая-нить конфа по сабжу?
[17:48:13] red-agent: или пиздовать в irc
[17:48:40] A2K: по какому сабжу?
[17:48:54] red-agent: mono/c#
[17:48:56] piranha: red-agent: сабжем у нас питон
[17:49:09] piranha: а то я вижу, что сишарп заранее тебе выгрызает мозг )
[17:49:11] red-agent: имелось ввиду recently упомянутым сабжем
[17:49:15] A2K: red-agent, ты деградируешь
[17:49:41] red-agent: я не деградирую, я изучаю врага
[17:49:51] red-agent: внедряюсь во вражеское окружение
[17:49:56] red-agent: чтобы саботировать изнутри
[17:50:02] tilarids: red-agent: за список вменяемых русских конф по разным сабжам можно выставить ящик пива. Найдешь - свистни
[17:50:10] A2K: обмотах голову фальгой хотя бы, поосторожнее там
[17:50:12] tilarids: нефиг там саботировать, нормальный язык
[17:50:28] red-agent: да ужь пиздец
[17:50:41] tilarids: они не стали выделываться и спокойно потыбрили фичи с других языков
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[17:50:49] red-agent: имена методов такие же как и имена классов
[17:50:59] red-agent: идент 8(!) спейсов
[17:51:07] piranha: как 8?
[17:51:09] tilarids: Это где?
[17:51:10] piranha: было 4 вроде
[17:51:14] red-agent: оттак блять
[17:51:15] red-agent: 8
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[17:51:22] tilarids: red-agent: это ты фигню говоришь. Можно без идентов вообще
[17:51:23] red-agent: http://mono-project.com/Mono_Basics
[17:51:35] red-agent: piranha: но знаешь, что самое ржачное?
[17:52:04] red-agent: http://www.go-mono.com/docs/
[17:52:09] tilarids: red-agent: а где ты увидел 8 ?
[17:52:12] red-agent: С# language specifiaction
[17:52:17] red-agent: код расползается в ФФ
[17:52:25] tilarids: red-agent: это табы :)
[17:52:27] red-agent: тупо наползает все друг на друга и в итоге нихуя не видно
[17:52:44] tilarids: у меня все отлично. я люблю табы :)
[17:52:47] red-agent: тоесть по-ходу щас я это браузить буду в links -g
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[17:54:15] piranha: tilarids: табы ацтой
[17:54:16] piranha: ;)
[17:54:27] red-agent: апстена
[17:54:33] red-agent: дарагой друг
[17:54:37] tilarids: piranha: ууу. лэтс зе олд холивар бегин?
[17:55:35] piranha: tilarids: нах. Табы отстой однозначно и спорить я не собираюсь. Даже не буду приводить ни одного доказательства, потому что это смешно. :Р
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[17:56:42] red-agent: завязывать пора с холиварам, на вкус и цвет - ...
[17:56:53] piranha: на вкус и цвет табы не при чём
[17:56:59] piranha: это вопрос единообразности кода
[17:57:13] red-agent: аа, блять
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[17:57:16] tilarids: piranha: какой троллистая реплика была
[17:57:17] red-agent: ты про эти табы
[17:57:25] red-agent: я подумал, что ты о табах в emacs/etc
[17:57:25] piranha: tilarids: ну да ;-)
[17:57:36] red-agent: а в коде - ясен хуй, спейсы рулят
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[17:59:09] xa4a: а напомните, какие проблемы с табами, если все юзают табы и ни у кого не настроено автозамена их на спейсы?
[17:59:52] red-agent: у меня настроена
[18:00:09] piranha: не всюду вменяемо копируются, не всюду их можно вставить, ну и плюс они разной длины при разных настройках
[18:00:18] piranha: но последнее - это так, просто фигня
[18:00:36] piranha: xa4a: например, в вебовских контролах становится нельзя поправить питоновский код вообще
[18:00:48] A2K: xa4a, спейсы вообще лучше, так как позволяют сохранять предусмотреную длину строки
[18:00:54] piranha: и да
[18:01:09] piranha: табы резиновые
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[18:01:26] xa4a: угу
[18:01:28] A2K is now ♫: Scorpions - Freshly Squeezed
[18:02:03] piranha: xa4a: таки вынудил доводы вспоминать
[18:02:04] piranha: %)
[18:02:21] xa4a: та я тут подумал, но чего-то лениво было вспомнить)
[18:02:29] piranha: от гад
[18:02:35] piranha: 10$ за консультацию
[18:02:37] piranha: :)
[18:02:38] Муркт: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE
[18:02:39] xa4a: :)
[18:02:45] A2K: вроде как любой нормальный редактор (например, kwrite) позволяет легко заменить все табы на пробелы и наоборот
[18:03:08] piranha: kwrite не редактор
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[18:03:40] piranha: =)
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[18:06:46] red-agent: ладно, если у них принято табы - значит табы
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[18:08:36] xa4a: продолжая тему офтопика..
[18:08:51] xa4a: на что следует обратить внимание при віборе автошколі?
[18:09:39] piranha: на то, что клёво бы уметь ездить до похода туда, хоть как-то
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[18:09:56] piranha: а то за 10 поездок можно не успеть надрыкацо
[18:10:04] piranha: хотя куй знает... или доучиваться после неё
[18:10:14] piranha: xa4a: на то, что старые машины будут заёбывать
[18:10:25] piranha: хотя по мнению старпёров потом проще ездить на новых
[18:10:35] piranha: по моему мнению - ничего подобного %)
[18:10:53] tilarids: неубедительные у вас доводы, товарищи, по поводу табов :)
[18:10:54] piranha: с другой стороны, я ходил в кпишную школу и ездил на двойке убитой в хлам, и ничо, нормал
[18:10:55] red-agent: /me солидарен с piranha
[18:11:10] piranha: tilarids: пох, у нас в руках банилка ;)
[18:11:14] piranha: /me ржот
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[18:11:25] piranha: tilarids: так убедительнее? :D
[18:11:40] red-agent: piranha: я первые разы вобще ездил на ЗиЛе
[18:11:43] piranha: xa4a: если тебе до самого КПИ не сильно далеко, то можешь идти в нём. Имхо, нормал ;)
[18:11:45] red-agent: и ниче, заебись
[18:11:47] piranha: red-agent: o_
[18:11:56] Муркт: xa4a: тем более что две самых убитых тачки выкинули
[18:12:02] piranha: ну я первые разы ездил на победе и восьмёрке
[18:12:07] xa4a: я думал возле дома где-то
[18:12:13] xa4a: тоись главное - тачки?
[18:12:15] Муркт: двойку и пятёрку. Правда, там год-два года назад ещё четвёрка была...
[18:12:21] Муркт: не, главное - инструкторы
[18:12:22] red-agent: piranha: я еще на газончике с двумя рулями ездил
[18:12:23] piranha: там может быть галимое пересечение с парами
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[18:12:26] piranha: главное инструкторы
[18:12:31] piranha: но в обычных школах они везде никакие
[18:12:54] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[18:13:02] piranha: если ты вдруг решишься выкинуть не 200-300 уёв, а от 600 и дальше, то можешь пойти сразу в понтовую школу (или понтовому инструктору)
[18:13:30] piranha: в принципе это хорошим ходом, наверное, будет
[18:13:33] xa4a: 300 уёв?
[18:13:37] piranha: заодно не приспособишься творить хуйню
[18:13:38] xa4a: я ща смотрю - все от 2200
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[18:13:44] Муркт: про понтовые школы ничего хорошего не слышал, правда и плохого тоже
[18:13:48] piranha: xa4a: а, ну знач дороже ещё стало
[18:13:55] piranha: Муркт: ну я про автоэнергию разную
[18:14:02] piranha: и Савчей с Кукарачами
[18:14:04] Муркт: а
[18:14:05] nmk: ээ. привет. мне тут сказали, что если в джанге от модели отанследоваться, в 1.0, то будет джоин. эт правда? :)
[18:14:20] Муркт: nmk: в документации усё написано :Р
[18:14:33] piranha: xa4a: правда, в таких школах (антиаварийного/экстремального вождения) учат водить, а не сдавать экзамен
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[18:14:40] piranha: потому это немного не то, конечно...
[18:14:46] piranha: :)))
[18:14:50] Муркт: piranha: а у них дают справку об окончании автошколы?
[18:14:55] Муркт: так чтоб в гаи пойти можно было?
[18:15:02] piranha: Муркт: ниибу, в школах может и дают
[18:15:05] piranha: кто-то вроде бы даёт
[18:15:08] Муркт: я вот не уверен
[18:15:14] red-agent: Муркт: можна и без справки
[18:15:17] Муркт: у большинства точно нет, у кого-то может и есть
[18:15:21] piranha: ну Савч и Кукарача не дают
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[18:15:27] piranha: а автошколы дают, емнип
[18:15:31] Муркт: red-agent: н-да?
[18:15:34] red-agent: угу
[18:15:35] Муркт: piranha: уточнять надо
[18:15:36] piranha: просто потому что они автошколы
[18:15:38] red-agent: на-лапку 100р
[18:15:43] red-agent: и все
[18:15:47] piranha: 200$ и ваще можно не сдавать )
[18:15:51] Муркт: в какой валюте 100р?
[18:15:54] red-agent: грн
[18:15:56] Муркт: piranha: доки всё ранво нужны
[18:16:03] piranha: мейби
[18:16:03] red-agent: piranha: хуйсдва
[18:16:05] red-agent: 500 не хоч?
[18:16:09] piranha: пох
[18:16:11] Муркт: red-agent: в киеве коммунизм
[18:16:17] piranha: ;)
[18:16:23] wiz is now online
[18:16:26] red-agent: 8)
[18:16:34] piranha: Муркт: можно пойти в кпишную школу и за грн 200 допездеццо о получении справки :)
[18:16:40] Муркт: наверное
[18:18:19] nmk: Муркт: т.е. либо надо abstract = True либо будут джоины?
[18:18:41] Муркт: nmk: без малейшего понятия. Знаю, что в документации есть
[18:19:15] tilarids: piranha: не убедительно!
[18:19:18] tilarids: табы - тру
[18:19:22] tilarids: пробелы - не тру
[18:19:31] A2K is now ♫: Aerosmith - Crazy
[18:20:39] piranha: tilarids: ты ошибся
[18:20:40] red-agent: бан
[18:20:46] piranha: :)
[18:21:09] xa4a: http://www.google.com/trends?q=tabs%2C+spaces
[18:21:10] nmk: народ, а кто как юзер-профайлы на 1.0 делает?
[18:21:20] Муркт: манкипатчингом
[18:21:24] wiz is now online
[18:21:41] red-agent: /me так же
[18:21:48] A2K: xa4a, табы стают менее популярными :(
[18:22:00] nmk: /me очень не хочет так делать..
[18:22:19] Муркт: http://www.google.com/trends?q=tab%2C+space
[18:22:37] Муркт: nmk: зато не тормозит и всё работает
[18:22:43] red-agent: /me увидел в emerge -p monodevelop какую-то шнягу типа mono-docs и оченьсильно надееятся, что там будет API ref в нормальном виде
[18:23:15] A2K: Муркт, ненене. Space - космос.
[18:23:42] Муркт: A2K: черновецкий это космос, не надо пробелы приплетать =)
[18:24:04] A2K: черновецкий популярнее табов!
[18:24:21] tilarids: Муркт: http://www.google.com/trends?q=tab%2C+space%2C+python&;ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[18:24:34] piranha: space shuttle discovers that tabs are shit
[18:24:41] PC is now online
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[18:24:54] Муркт: tilarids: и чо ты хочешь этим сказать?
[18:25:19] tilarids: что такой space популярней и python
[18:25:27] A2K is now ♫: Manowar - An American Trilogy
[18:25:29] A2K is now ♫: Manowar - Swords in the Wind
[18:25:38] Муркт: ну эта проблема гораздо больше чем одного языка программирования
[18:25:54] piranha: http://www.google.com/trends?q=tab+python%2C+space+python&;ctab=344499072&geo=all&date=all
[18:26:00] tilarids: red-agent: там полупустая дока :) Используй msdn
[18:26:11] piranha: ))))
[18:26:21] xa4a: http://www.google.com/trends?q=tab+indent%2C+space+indent&;ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[18:26:25] wiz is now online
[18:26:34] xa4a: не ограничивайтесь питоном
[18:26:39] piranha: ггг
[18:26:42] piranha: какой-то гон )
[18:26:44] xa4a: в питоне ясно, что рер-8 и пробелы
[18:27:01] piranha: в лиспе говорят юзать пробелы тоже
[18:27:07] xa4a: а так - у спейс интдента - только одна палка кривая висит)
[18:27:14] piranha: там наёпка
[18:27:15] piranha: ;)
[18:27:18] piranha: спецом прячут
[18:27:25] xa4a: это скобка от лиспа)
[18:27:32] piranha: :)
[18:29:47] xa4a: !decide виллис сигнал онега
[18:30:04] Муркт: в хаскелле пробелы
[18:30:23] Муркт: и это убер-аргумент
[18:30:25] Муркт: =)))
[18:30:42] A2K is now ♫: Manowar - Warriors of the World United
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[18:31:25] tilarids: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
[18:31:30] tilarids: Вот это убер-аргумент
[18:31:33] tilarids: :)
[18:32:14] tilarids: Можно подсчитать, в скольки используются табы, в скольки - пробелы
[18:32:35] tilarids: хотя, во многих из них можно использовать и то, и то, что в общем-то верно
[18:32:46] A2K: а в коболе что?
[18:33:58] tilarids: A2K: в кврайте и не поймешь, что там, табы или пробелы
[18:34:13] tilarids: так что не волнуйся
[18:34:19] tilarids: ;)
[18:35:10] red-agent: насчет эклипса + сишарп
[18:35:16] red-agent: самый recent плагин - это emonic 0.3
[18:35:25] A2K: tilarids, там настраивается
[18:35:26] red-agent: так что видимо monodevelop - наше все
[18:35:46] red-agent: (emonic - выпущенный в 2007 году)
[18:35:52] red-agent: последний релиз
[18:36:25] wiz is now online
[18:36:27] tilarids: кстати, mono и сам то надо из исходников ставить, во всех репах - устаревший аццтой
[18:36:33] A2K is now ♫: Manowar - Hand of Doom
[18:36:40] red-agent: ура
[18:36:41] tilarids: ну, или не аццтой, но просто устаревший
[18:36:45] red-agent: monodoc рулит
[18:36:59] red-agent: tilarids: у меня и так все из ихсодников
[18:37:06] red-agent: gentoo ;)
[18:37:19] gigimon: товарищи,подскажите пожалуйста. как из request достать юзера? User.objects.get(username__exact=request.user.username) ??
[18:37:24] piranha: request.user
[18:37:26] piranha: это всё
[18:37:30] gigimon: piranha, спс
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[18:37:45] red-agent: выглядит не плохо
[18:37:46] tilarids: red-agent: я имел в виду из свна
[18:37:49] red-agent: monodevelop
[18:38:16] red-agent: ну у меня 1.9.1
[18:38:23] A2K: /me наблюдает как на конфе о питоне обсуждают редактор моно О.о
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[18:39:03] tilarids: в генту слегка устаревшая версия в портаже. Не так давно 2.0 вышла
[18:39:22] tilarids: там LINQ есть (по нашему - lazy comprehensions)
[18:39:22] red-agent: там оверлей кажется есть
[18:39:32] red-agent: который тянет из свна
[18:39:35] red-agent: щас гляну
[18:40:05] tilarids: не знаю по поводу оверлея, я себе банально скачал ливсд с предустановленным моно, чтобы не пачкать основную систему пока :)
[18:41:17] red-agent: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=240289
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[19:13:49] red-agent: ладно блять
[19:13:55] red-agent: отложим поиски 2.0
[19:14:01] red-agent: и займемся 1.9
[19:14:04] red-agent: кстати
[19:14:14] red-agent: monodevelop очень даже fancy штука
[19:14:25] red-agent: такую бы для Python - был бы рулез
[19:15:01] tilarids: ага! я же говорил :) Она, кстати, опенсорс, так что можно питон и добавить
[19:15:08] tilarids: если айронпитонщики еще не добавили
[19:15:11] A2K is now ♫: Jelonek - Akka
[19:15:17] red-agent: угу, штука не плохая
[19:15:37] red-agent: я правда пока на 1.0 смотрю
[19:15:45] red-agent: за не именеем лучше под руками
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[19:17:34] slav0nic: red-agent, http://audidude.com/blog/?p=49
[19:17:45] A2K is now ♫: Jelonek - Steppe
[19:18:09] red-agent: холефак
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[19:18:38] red-agent: это может быть граалем
[19:19:00] xa4a: A2K: картинки в менюшке!!
[19:19:18] A2K: да. красиво
[19:19:25] red-agent: The latest unstable version of MonoDevelop is 2.0 Alpha 1 (1.9)
[19:19:28] red-agent: а
[19:19:34] red-agent: так у меня оказывается 2.0
[19:19:36] red-agent: холефак
[19:19:39] tilarids: огого, какая штука
[19:19:43] tilarids: хочу пробовать
[19:19:45] red-agent: интересно, или то же с моно
[19:20:09] tilarids: единственное, могу расстроить red-agentа - у меня один раз упал monodevelop. Просто так
[19:20:17] red-agent: хуйня
[19:20:26] red-agent: мы закаленные, и не такое видали
[19:20:29] red-agent: в true XP style
[19:20:40] red-agent: (xp = extreme programming)
[19:20:58] red-agent is now кажется нашел священный грааль
[19:20:58] Муркт: а я уже хотел сказать, что ХР стайл ещё ничо, а вот виста-стайл
[19:21:15] red-agent: пиранье вон смешно
[19:21:28] red-agent: а я раз 10 строковый сырец edом писал
[19:21:29] red-agent: :D
[19:21:32] wiz is now online
[19:21:35] piranha: ну и чо
[19:21:41] piranha: а я раз им конфиг редактировал
[19:21:47] red-agent: да я чуть не ебанулся
[19:21:47] piranha: потому что терминал поломался и ee не работал
[19:21:50] red-agent: за эти 10 строк
[19:21:52] piranha: ггг
[19:21:53] piranha: ламо
[19:21:57] red-agent: пнх
[19:22:05] red-agent: травма сцуко на всю жизнь
[19:22:05] piranha: манпага на соседнем компе и на шару всё сделали )
[19:22:18] red-agent: ну без мана я бы вобще наебнулся =)
[19:22:24] piranha: :))))
[19:22:35] A2K is now ♫: Jelonek - A Funeral Of A Provincial Vampire
[19:22:36] piranha: так а чо ты не написал его cat'ом?
[19:22:44] piranha: типа cat > shit <<EOF
[19:22:46] piranha: и поехали
[19:22:50] red-agent: echo
[19:22:54] red-agent: а не cat
[19:23:01] piranha: оу
[19:23:05] piranha: ну пох в принципе
[19:23:10] piranha: кат тоже сработает ;)
[19:23:33] tilarids: можно cat из консоли делать
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[19:24:14] red-agent: http://audidude.com/python-addin/
[19:24:18] red-agent: я щас потестю
[19:24:19] red-agent: гыг
[19:25:04] red-agent: а не
[19:25:09] red-agent: похоже не потестю
[19:25:10] red-agent: =(
[19:25:24] red-agent: кажется у меня все-таки 1.0
[19:25:25] red-agent: блять
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[19:27:40] red-agent: Mono JIT compiler version 1.9.1
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[19:27:54] red-agent: блять, я совсем заебался с этими версиями
[19:30:02] piranha: /me злорадно смеётся
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[19:34:53] red-agent: захуярить что-ли из сорсов
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[19:39:00] red-agent: бля
[19:39:08] red-agent: в транке уже есть биндинги для питона
[19:39:10] red-agent: и это охуенно
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[19:41:56] red-agent: /me закатал рукава и начал сносить портажные версии
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[19:42:07] red-agent: it's gonna be hard way, babe
[19:42:17] A2K is now ♫: Kenny G - What a Wonderful World
[19:42:22] A2K: ред-агент меня достал
[19:42:27] A2K: я вернусь когда он вылечится
[19:42:27] piranha: меня тоже
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[19:42:40] piranha: red-agent: а ну карочи хватит про моно лытдыбр сюда постить
[19:43:32] red-agent: акей, отпишусь когда попробую PyBinding
[19:43:40] red-agent: должно быть реально fancy штукой
[19:43:43] piranha: =)
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[19:46:27] red-agent: piranha: но вобще, я ожидал увидеть какое-то жуткое уебище типа VS. аннихуя
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[19:47:32] piranha: :)
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[20:01:23] Лис: польская джанга как то пошловато выглядит
[20:01:26] Лис: Django.pl
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[20:02:22] piranha: poznaj django!
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[20:02:32] piranha: Mapowanie obiektowo-relacyjne
[20:02:36] piranha: mapowanie
[20:02:41] piranha: мудрование
[20:02:54] piranha: гладование
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[20:11:02] Лис: piranha, слушай, а в дебиане можно как то удержать некотрые сервисы от запуска и прописывания в автостарт, во время обновления?
[20:11:29] Лис: наприме у меня mysqld но он нужен тока некоторое время. но сцуко каждый раз обновившись он лезет в автозапуск
[20:11:36] piranha: гхм
[20:11:38] wiz is now online
[20:11:54] piranha: update-rc.d -f mysql remove
[20:12:41] Лис: это понятно
[20:12:57] Лис: но как сделать что бы dpkg соблюдал то что уже выставлено
[20:13:00] piranha: гм
[20:13:07] piranha: у меня вроде не засовывается по второй серии
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[20:24:26] Лис: http://sukhoi.org/hui
[20:24:30] Лис: lol
[20:25:03] wiz: надеюсь бортовая автоматика у них всё же не на пхп
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[20:28:24] xa4a: хм
[20:28:28] xa4a: книга о коучдб
[20:28:30] xa4a: http://books.couchdb.org/relax/
[20:28:36] xa4a: будет
[20:28:59] Муркт: фигассе
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[21:04:26] xa4a: http://www.vector.org.uk/archive/v214/sudoku.htm *_<
[21:05:37] sevenov: мм... не открывается (
[21:06:38] xa4a: sevenov: http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:XT_3d68QVGgJ:www.vector.org.uk/archive/v214/sudoku.htm+http://www.vector.org.uk/archive/v214/sudoku.htm&;hl=ru&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ua
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[21:10:05] sevenov: оу, "решптель судоку" :) интересно ))
Я недавно видел новый вид судоку - бинарное ))
[21:10:37] xa4a: ненене
[21:10:44] xa4a: там интересно не "решить судоку"
[21:10:57] xa4a: там интересно "решить судоку _на J_"
[21:11:28] sevenov: на чем?
[21:11:43] wiz is now online
[21:12:26] xa4a: ну..
[21:12:28] xa4a: ЯП такой
[21:12:29] xa4a: J
[21:12:35] piranha: яп-яп
[21:12:39] piranha: yap-yap
[21:12:44] sevenov: аа =))
[21:13:03] sevenov: что-то страшное ) наверное на жабе :))
[21:13:10] xa4a: э
[21:13:14] xa4a: линк посмотри
[21:13:21] xa4a: линк посмотри, да?
[21:13:37] piranha: sevenov: ты чо, с ума сошёл?
[21:13:49] piranha: упоминать Джей рядом с жабой?!
[21:13:56] piranha: за одно это можно отхватить -200 кармы!
[21:13:59] piranha: Obey!
[21:14:02] piranha: ;-)
[21:14:13] sevenov: ээ... отстаньте от меня :)) я сеня ппц устал )
я, если честно, даже не слышал проо джей
[21:14:29] piranha: !google J programming language
[21:14:41] piranha: сакс
[21:14:53] piranha: !google wikipedia J programming language
[21:14:59] piranha: о, это оно :)
[21:15:58] sevenov: хмм... интересно
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[21:24:04] sevenov: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/aviary_out_of_private_beta_discount_offer.php
[21:24:37] sevenov: смотреть видео )
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[23:05:35] slav0nic: pycurl жесток :|
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[23:09:26] Муркт: ручки и ножки выдёргивает у слабых характером^W скелетом?
[23:11:18] slav0nic: curl.setopt(pycurl.URL, 'https://www.icq.com/register/')
curl.setopt(pycurl.WRITEFUNCTION, data.write)
curl.setopt(pycurl.COOKIEJAR, cookie)
curl.perform()

[23:11:22] slav0nic: отакое вот
[23:11:41] slav0nic: блин и куки тока в файл=\
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[23:12:06] slav0nic: ещё приколы - если надо на экран вывести куки - укажите '-' и тп)) пипец
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[23:12:50] _vovaz04h_: /me полез ставить python-pycurl дабы посмотреть
[23:13:08] slav0nic: но альтернативы по ф-ционалу нет
[23:13:18] Муркт: slav0nic: а нафиг оно ваще надо? это что-то насчёт http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curl_(programming_language) ?
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[23:14:12] slav0nic: потому что урллиб2 гавно в ряде случаев
[23:14:16] slav0nic: поэтому и надо
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[23:32:28] red-agent: slav0nic: а StringIO() зачем?
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[23:32:34] red-agent: это я про http://audidude.com/blog/?p=49
[23:32:35] red-agent: блять
[23:32:41] red-agent: всмысле, про [23:11:13] slav0nic: блин и куки тока в файл=\
[23:32:45] piranha: curl is a client to get files from servers using any of the supported
protocols. The command is designed to work without user interaction
or any kind of interactivity.

[23:32:48] slav0nic: red-agent, ИМЯ ФАЙЛА
[23:32:53] slav0nic: а не дескриптор
[23:32:55] piranha: Муркт: это на тему programming language
[23:32:57] red-agent: гм
[23:33:07] red-agent: slav0nic: ты уверен?
[23:33:20] slav0nic: да он ниуя не pythonic
[23:33:23] red-agent: может как в PIL например, одним аргументом можна и имя и дескриптор
[23:33:41] slav0nic: Pass a file name as char *, zero terminated
[23:33:51] slav0nic: это если с curllib брать
[23:34:00] red-agent: понятно
[23:34:18] slav0nic: Specify "-" to instead have the cookies written to stdout
это ваще ядок)
[23:34:42] red-agent: ну можна и так
[23:34:43] Муркт: stdout можно перехватывать... но это braindamage
[23:34:44] slav0nic: ему врапера нормального не хватает
[23:34:45] red-agent: выловить в stdout
[23:35:07] slav0nic: да там потом эти данные можно через getinfo выгрести
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[23:49:40] Муркт: всем бб
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