[00:00:07] Александp is now xa
[00:00:14] Александp is now xa
[00:00:36] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[00:02:04] piranha: просто интересно
[00:02:32] wiz is now dnd
[00:04:50] cel366 is now wine
[00:07:33] wiz is now dnd
[00:07:47] Александp is now offline
[00:08:56] sevenov: ясно
[00:09:43] cel366 is now away
[00:09:44] cel366 is now away
[00:09:51] cel366 is now away
[00:12:16] red-agent is now away
[00:12:35] wiz is now dnd
[00:14:51] cel366 is now away
[00:15:26] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[00:17:36] wiz is now dnd
[00:19:51] cel366 is now away
[00:22:36] wiz is now dnd
[00:24:52] cel366 is now away
[00:25:09] Александp is now xa
[00:25:16] Александp is now xa
[00:27:39] wiz is now dnd
[00:29:53] cel366 is now away
[00:32:41] wiz is now dnd
[00:33:23] dolphinik is now offline
[00:34:53] cel366 is now away
[00:37:41] wiz is now dnd
[00:38:59] kitov is now online
[00:39:53] cel366 is now away
[00:40:21] Александp is now offline
[00:42:16] Хрюндель (джангист) is now offline
[00:42:42] wiz is now dnd
[00:44:00] kitov is now away
[00:44:54] cel366 is now away
[00:46:03] piranha is now offline
[00:47:42] wiz is now dnd
[00:49:55] cel366 is now away
[00:50:07] cel366 is now wine
[00:50:08] cel366 is now wine
[00:52:42] wiz is now dnd
[00:54:39] Александp is now xa
[00:54:46] Александp is now xa
[00:54:55] cel366 is now wine
[00:55:09] cel366 is now away
[00:55:10] cel366 is now away
[00:57:44] wiz is now dnd
[00:59:55] cel366 is now away
[01:02:45] wiz is now dnd
[01:04:56] cel366 is now away
[01:07:45] wiz is now dnd
[01:09:57] cel366 is now away
[01:12:46] wiz is now dnd
[01:14:59] cel366 is now away
[01:16:05] Александp is now offline
[01:17:47] wiz is now dnd
[01:20:01] cel366 is now away
[01:22:29] xa4a is now away
[01:22:46] wiz is now dnd
[01:24:59] cel366 is now away
[01:25:08] xa4a is now online
[01:27:15] Александp is now xa
[01:27:21] Александp is now xa
[01:27:46] wiz is now dnd
[01:30:00] cel366 is now away
[01:32:47] wiz is now dnd
[01:35:00] cel366 is now away
[01:37:47] wiz is now dnd
[01:40:00] cel366 is now away
[01:42:47] wiz is now dnd
[01:45:01] cel366 is now away
[01:47:48] wiz is now dnd
[01:50:01] cel366 is now away
[01:50:09] cel366 is now wine
[01:50:10] cel366 is now wine
[01:52:48] wiz is now dnd
[01:55:02] cel366 is now wine
[01:55:09] cel366 is now away
[01:55:10] cel366 is now away
[01:57:48] wiz is now dnd
[02:00:03] cel366 is now away
[02:00:27] xa4a is now away
[02:02:48] wiz is now dnd
[02:03:53] Александp is now offline
[02:04:39] xa4a is now online
[02:05:04] cel366 is now away
[02:07:49] wiz is now dnd
[02:10:04] cel366 is now away
[02:12:51] wiz is now dnd
[02:14:47] xa4a is now away
[02:15:05] cel366 is now away
[02:16:41] Александp is now xa
[02:16:47] Александp is now xa
[02:17:52] wiz is now dnd
[02:18:10] sevenov is now away
[02:20:06] cel366 is now away
[02:22:53] wiz is now dnd
[02:23:21] sevenov is now online
[02:25:07] cel366 is now away
[02:27:53] wiz is now dnd
[02:28:31] sevenov is now away
[02:29:40] red-agent is now away
[02:30:08] cel366 is now away
[02:32:55] wiz is now dnd
[02:35:09] cel366 is now away
[02:37:50] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[02:37:55] wiz is now dnd
[02:38:31] sevenov is now xa
[02:40:09] cel366 is now away
[02:40:38] Александp is now offline
[02:42:54] wiz is now dnd
[02:45:09] cel366 is now away
[02:47:54] wiz is now dnd
[02:50:10] cel366 is now away
[02:51:13] Александp is now xa
[02:51:19] Александp is now xa
[02:52:55] wiz is now dnd
[02:55:10] cel366 is now away
[02:57:55] wiz is now dnd
[03:00:11] cel366 is now away
[03:02:54] wiz is now dnd
[03:05:12] cel366 is now away
[03:05:42] sevenov is now online
[03:06:40] red-agent is now away
[03:07:55] wiz is now dnd
[03:08:58] Александp is now offline
[03:10:15] cel366 is now away
[03:11:43] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[03:12:56] wiz is now dnd
[03:15:13] cel366 is now away
[03:15:13] sevenov is now offline
[03:16:40] red-agent is now away
[03:17:55] wiz is now dnd
[03:20:12] cel366 is now away
[03:22:55] wiz is now dnd
[03:23:42] Александp is now xa
[03:23:47] Александp is now xa
[03:25:12] cel366 is now away
[03:26:40] red-agent is now xa
[03:27:55] wiz is now dnd
[03:30:12] cel366 is now away
[03:31:41] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[03:32:56] wiz is now dnd
[03:35:12] cel366 is now away
[03:36:41] red-agent is now away
[03:37:56] wiz is now dnd
[03:38:43] Александp is now offline
[03:40:12] cel366 is now away
[03:42:56] wiz is now dnd
[03:45:13] cel366 is now away
[03:46:41] red-agent is now xa
[03:47:56] wiz is now dnd
[03:48:58] Александp is now xa
[03:49:04] Александp is now xa
[03:50:13] cel366 is now away
[03:52:55] wiz is now dnd
[03:55:14] cel366 is now away
[03:57:55] wiz is now dnd
[04:00:14] cel366 is now away
[04:01:41] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[04:02:56] wiz is now dnd
[04:05:14] cel366 is now away
[04:06:41] red-agent is now away
[04:07:55] wiz is now dnd
[04:10:15] cel366 is now away
[04:12:57] wiz is now dnd
[04:14:37] Александp is now offline
[04:15:16] cel366 is now away
[04:16:42] red-agent is now xa
[04:17:56] wiz is now dnd
[04:20:16] cel366 is now away
[04:22:56] wiz is now dnd
[04:25:16] cel366 is now away
[04:25:18] Александp is now xa
[04:25:24] Александp is now xa
[04:27:58] wiz is now dnd
[04:30:15] cel366 is now away
[04:33:00] wiz is now dnd
[04:35:15] cel366 is now away
[04:37:57] wiz is now dnd
[04:40:15] cel366 is now away
[04:41:42] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[04:42:56] wiz is now dnd
[04:42:58] Александp is now offline
[04:45:15] cel366 is now away
[04:46:42] red-agent is now away
[04:47:54] wiz is now dnd
[04:50:15] cel366 is now away
[04:52:55] wiz is now dnd
[04:53:04] Александp is now xa
[04:53:10] Александp is now xa
[04:55:15] cel366 is now away
[04:56:42] red-agent is now xa
[04:57:55] wiz is now dnd
[05:00:14] cel366 is now away
[05:02:56] wiz is now dnd
[05:05:13] cel366 is now away
[05:07:57] wiz is now dnd
[05:10:13] cel366 is now away
[05:12:57] wiz is now dnd
[05:15:13] cel366 is now away
[05:17:59] wiz is now dnd
[05:20:13] cel366 is now away
[05:23:01] wiz is now dnd
[05:25:13] cel366 is now away
[05:28:01] wiz is now dnd
[05:28:42] Александp is now offline
[05:30:14] cel366 is now away
[05:33:01] wiz is now dnd
[05:35:16] cel366 is now away
[05:36:47] Александp is now xa
[05:36:54] Александp is now xa
[05:38:02] wiz is now dnd
[05:40:16] cel366 is now away
[05:43:02] wiz is now dnd
[05:45:17] cel366 is now away
[05:48:03] wiz is now dnd
[05:50:17] cel366 is now away
[05:53:04] wiz is now dnd
[05:54:59] Александp is now offline
[05:55:18] cel366 is now away
[05:58:05] wiz is now dnd
[06:00:17] cel366 is now away
[06:03:05] wiz is now dnd
[06:05:17] Александp is now xa
[06:05:17] cel366 is now away
[06:05:23] Александp is now xa
[06:08:03] wiz is now dnd
[06:10:19] cel366 is now away
[06:13:03] wiz is now dnd
[06:15:20] cel366 is now away
[06:18:07] wiz is now dnd
[06:19:38] Александp is now offline
[06:20:19] cel366 is now away
[06:23:09] wiz is now dnd
[06:25:20] cel366 is now away
[06:28:09] wiz is now dnd
[06:30:22] cel366 is now away
[06:33:08] wiz is now dnd
[06:34:16] Александp is now xa
[06:34:22] Александp is now xa
[06:35:23] cel366 is now away
[06:37:19] friday is now xa
[06:38:06] wiz is now dnd
[06:40:24] cel366 is now away
[06:43:07] wiz is now dnd
[06:45:08] Александp is now offline
[06:45:19] friday: Кто-нибудь транспорты писал?
[06:45:26] cel366 is now away
[06:48:07] wiz is now dnd
[06:49:51] лорд Морфий is now online
[06:50:27] cel366 is now away
[06:53:10] wiz is now dnd
[06:53:45] Александp is now xa
[06:53:52] Александp is now xa
[06:55:27] cel366 is now away
[06:58:08] wiz is now dnd
[07:00:28] cel366 is now away
[07:03:10] wiz is now dnd
[07:05:29] cel366 is now away
[07:07:15] Александp is now offline
[07:08:13] wiz is now dnd
[07:10:28] cel366 is now away
[07:13:13] wiz is now dnd
[07:15:29] cel366 is now away
[07:18:16] wiz is now dnd
[07:19:48] Александp is now xa
[07:19:54] Александp is now xa
[07:20:29] cel366 is now away
[07:23:15] wiz is now dnd
[07:25:30] cel366 is now away
[07:27:27] xa4a is now online
[07:28:15] wiz is now dnd
[07:30:30] cel366 is now away
[07:33:15] wiz is now dnd
[07:34:10] Александp is now offline
[07:35:29] cel366 is now away
[07:37:39] xa4a is now away
[07:38:16] wiz is now dnd
[07:40:30] cel366 is now away
[07:43:18] wiz is now dnd
[07:45:30] cel366 is now away
[07:45:52] xa4a is now online
[07:48:19] wiz is now dnd
[07:49:43] Александp is now xa
[07:49:49] Александp is now xa
[07:50:30] cel366 is now away
[07:52:23] Александp is now offline
[07:52:47] wiz is now offline
[07:55:31] cel366 is now away
[08:00:31] cel366 is now away
[08:01:52] лорд Морфий is now away
[08:05:33] cel366 is now away
[08:06:59] xa4a is now away
[08:07:05] Александp is now xa
[08:07:11] Александp is now xa
[08:10:35] cel366 is now away
[08:15:35] cel366 is now away
[08:20:35] cel366 is now away
[08:21:52] лорд Морфий is now xa
[08:22:15] cel366 is now wine
[08:22:16] cel366 is now wine
[08:25:36] cel366 is now wine
[08:27:22] sevenov is now online
[08:27:47] cel366 is now wine
[08:28:00] Александp is now offline
[08:29:23] cel366 is now offline
[08:32:45] Александp is now xa
[08:32:51] Александp is now xa
[08:33:43] friday is now offline
[08:40:28] лорд Морфий is now online
[08:44:21] cel366 is now wine
[08:44:22] cel366 is now wine
[08:44:22] cel366 is now wine
[08:44:26] cel366 is now wine
[08:44:27] cel366 is now wine
[08:45:26] cel366 is now wine
[08:50:26] cel366 is now wine
[08:50:31] cel366 is now away
[08:50:32] cel366 is now away
[08:51:55] bergamot is now online
[08:52:46] cel366 is now wine
[08:52:47] cel366 is now wine
[08:53:07] Portnov is now online
[08:55:26] cel366 is now wine
[08:58:47] Александp is now offline
[09:00:24] cel366 is now wine
[09:02:33] cel366 is now away
[09:02:34] cel366 is now away
[09:05:25] cel366 is now away
[09:08:29] sevenov: утро
[09:08:54] cel366 is now wine
[09:08:55] cel366 is now wine
[09:09:13] Александp is now xa
[09:09:16] bergamot is now xa
[09:09:19] Александp is now xa
[09:10:24] cel366 is now wine
[09:14:06] bergamot is now online
[09:15:52] kitov is now offline
[09:16:08] kitov is now away
[09:16:11] kitov is now away
[09:19:46] xa4a is now offline
[09:19:47] xa4a is now away
[09:23:49] bergamot: день
[09:25:13] sevenov: oO
[09:25:20] sevenov: точно )
[09:29:54] Александp is now offline
[09:40:05] Александp is now xa
[09:40:12] Александp is now xa
[09:40:22] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[09:44:48] bergamot is now xa
[09:45:21] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[09:46:33] Portnov is now away
[09:46:39] Portnov is now away
[09:47:56] bergamot is now online
[09:49:47] Александp is now offline
[09:50:12] Portnov is now online
[09:50:20] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[09:55:22] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[09:56:46] piranha is now Looooooooooooooooost, who enter here
[09:57:32] Portnov is now away
[09:57:39] Portnov is now away
[09:57:45] лорд Морфий is now away
[09:59:02] Portnov is now online
[09:59:37] bergamot: проверьте, teamer.ru работает? что-то nslookup не находит айпи, хотя полчаса назад всё было
[10:00:20] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:00:51] лорд Морфий is now online
[10:01:01] xa4a-m is now online
[10:04:24] Александp is now xa
[10:04:35] Александp is now xa
[10:05:22] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:10:23] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:15:24] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:20:25] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:22:12] Александp is now offline
[10:25:23] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:28:09] sevenov: работакт
[10:28:26] dolphinik is now online
[10:28:45] лорд Морфий is now away
[10:29:03] bergamot: да сейчас уже заработал
[10:29:10] bergamot: до этого висел у всех
[10:29:15] Portnov is now away
[10:29:17] Portnov is now online
[10:29:27] лорд Морфий is now online
[10:30:24] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:31:22] Александp is now xa
[10:31:33] Александp is now xa
[10:31:36] red-agent is now offline
[10:31:37] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[10:31:39] red-agent is now Mono.Addins rockz!
[10:31:40] red-agent is now xa
[10:32:10] piranha is now away
[10:34:19] Portnov is now away
[10:34:24] Portnov is now away
[10:35:11] wiz is now dnd
[10:35:12] wiz is now dnd
[10:35:15] wiz is now dnd
[10:35:16] wiz is now dnd
[10:35:18] wiz is now dnd
[10:35:19] wiz is now dnd
[10:35:25] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:35:43] wiz is now dnd
[10:38:37] wiz is now лечууууу
[10:38:38] wiz is now лечууууу
[10:38:45] wiz is now online
[10:38:46] wiz is now online
[10:40:25] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[10:40:43] wiz is now online
[10:47:56] лорд Морфий is now away
[10:50:48] piranha is now Looooooooooooooooost, who enter here
[10:50:52] Virtuos86 is now online
[10:52:04] Virtuos86 is now offline
[10:56:50] piranha: http://pornohabr.ru/
[10:57:26] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:00:24] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:00:45] wiz is now online
[11:01:24] sevenov: Жесть о_О
[11:02:35] piranha: тода
[11:02:47] piranha: теперь будет компашка из быдлохабра и похабра )
[11:03:26] wiz is now away
[11:03:27] wiz is now away
[11:04:22] dolphinik is now away
[11:04:24] Александp is now offline
[11:05:09] sevenov: где? :)
[11:05:25] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:05:46] wiz is now away
[11:07:19] slav0nic is now online
[11:07:49] Александp is now xa
[11:08:06] Александp is now xa
[11:10:24] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:10:45] wiz is now away
[11:11:03] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:11:09] piranha: в инете ;)
[11:12:59] dolphinik is now online
[11:13:34] sevenov: аа, ну да ) упячкаменов и двачеров мало, так щас порхпбрпюзеры будут )
[11:14:42] piranha: =)
[11:15:25] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:15:44] wiz is now away
[11:16:00] kitov is now online
[11:16:07] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:18:09] piranha is now xa
[11:20:10] cel366 is now away
[11:20:26] cel366 is now away
[11:20:45] wiz is now away
[11:25:26] cel366 is now away
[11:25:45] wiz is now away
[11:26:28] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:26:43] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:26:44] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:28:39] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:30:28] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:30:41] sevenov is now away
[11:30:46] wiz is now away
[11:31:11] sevenov is now online
[11:32:34] cel366 is now away
[11:32:35] cel366 is now away
[11:35:29] cel366 is now away
[11:35:46] wiz is now away
[11:37:16] kitov is now away
[11:38:44] Александp is now offline
[11:39:54] Александp is now xa
[11:40:05] Александp is now xa
[11:40:31] cel366 is now away
[11:40:46] wiz is now away
[11:43:35] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:43:55] Лис is now online
[11:45:03] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:45:31] cel366 is now away
[11:45:46] wiz is now away
[11:46:16] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:46:17] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:49:28] Александp is now offline
[11:50:32] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:50:46] wiz is now away
[11:51:09] xa4a-m is now offline
[11:52:20] cel366 is now away
[11:52:21] cel366 is now away
[11:52:50] wiz is now online
[11:52:51] wiz is now online
[11:55:28] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:55:31] cel366 is now away
[11:55:48] wiz is now online
[11:58:08] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[11:58:09] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[12:00:15] лорд Морфий is now online
[12:00:30] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[12:00:46] Александp is now xa
[12:00:48] wiz is now online
[12:00:55] Александp is now xa
[12:01:50] bergamot is now xa
[12:02:10] bergamot is now online
[12:05:32] cel366 is now собираю мегадевайс
[12:05:49] wiz is now online
[12:08:05] dolphinik is now away
[12:10:29] Лис: http://herr-schuessler.de/blog/jquerypopeye-an-inline-lightbox-alternative/
[12:10:32] kitov is now online
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[12:53:12] Лис: я не понимаю, почему джанга на svn сидит?!
[12:53:24] Лис: почему не используют тот же git или hg
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[13:14:51] sevenov: в джанге есть что-то типа select_manyrelated?
[13:15:20] Лис: что значит слово many в данном случае?
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[13:16:59] sevenov: нужно выдернуть из many2many
[13:17:32] sevenov: select_related есть, видел ManyRelatedManager, но вот думаю, как так выдернуть...
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[13:22:38] red-agent: Лис: потому, что им не нужна *d*vcs?
[13:23:49] Лис: да пиздец не нужна
[13:23:57] Лис: у них девелоперов по всему миру пачка
[13:24:06] Лис: полюбому это destributed
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[13:26:36] red-agent: d*i*stributed
[13:26:49] red-agent: Лис: это еще ничего не значит
[13:28:22] Лис: http://markmail.org/message/m5yxcm2t5qzoguyr
[13:28:29] Лис: андриан лашара %)
[13:28:39] Лис: адриан*
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[13:31:46] red-agent: тебе не похуй, на какой они vcs?
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[13:33:48] piranha: ну неудобно
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[13:52:22] Лис: по этому письму становится понятным что он просто боится dcvs систем :)
[13:52:31] Лис: и ему лень переучится
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[13:56:11] red-agent: Лис: проблема в том, что как ты уже (наверное) успел заметить - там сотни девелоперов
[13:56:15] red-agent: а не 1 головатый
[13:56:33] piranha: да
[13:56:38] piranha: и юзать для такого двцс - логично
[13:56:40] red-agent: и врядли каждый из них горит желанием "переучиватся"
[13:56:41] piranha: и удобнее намного
[13:57:05] red-agent: ага, а как мержить сотню кусков в одну репу ты подумал?
[13:57:06] Лис: > и юзать для такого двцс - логично
+1
[13:57:12] red-agent: мерж в dvcs куда более сложен
[13:57:17] red-agent: и с проблемами
[13:57:22] Лис: ХАХАХА
[13:58:18] Лис: >а как мержить сотню кусков в одну репу ты подумал?
в стопицот раз легче чем в долбоsvn
[13:58:26] red-agent: смешно? никогда не приходилось конфликты в dvcs при мерже разруливать?
[13:58:33] piranha: блять
[13:58:37] piranha: да ты ламо галимое
[13:58:38] piranha: )
[13:58:42] Лис: жажа
[13:58:44] piranha: какую-то хуйню написал
[13:58:50] Лис: он не понимает о чём пишет
[13:58:51] piranha: больше не делай этого, выглядит тупо
[13:58:52] piranha: угу
[13:59:08] piranha: red-agent: риальне не пользовался ими, что ли?
[13:59:15] red-agent: тупо выглядит ваша новая религия, hg
[13:59:24] piranha: тупо выглядит то, что ты пишешь хуйню
[13:59:26] piranha: вот и всё
[13:59:32] piranha: школьник
[13:59:35] piranha: :D
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[13:59:51] red-agent: а ты сам-то пользовался? :D
[14:00:09] red-agent: потому, что разруливать руками конфликты с 10 репами мне очень не понравилось
[14:00:15] red-agent: и впреть делать я этого - не хочу
[14:00:26] red-agent: правда то было на git
[14:00:28] red-agent: но один хуй
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[14:00:58] piranha: чувак, вот ты щас шото написал, а смысла твои сообщения не несут
[14:01:14] piranha: разруливание конфликтов к двцс не имеет отношения
[14:01:30] piranha: и разруливание подобных конфликтов в свн обходится потерей мозга на неделю
[14:02:08] red-agent: проблема в том, что при мерже 10 реп в dvcs - конфилктов бля намного больше
[14:02:09] piranha: двцс только того и даёт, что помнит, что ты уже замержил
[14:02:12] piranha: пиздец нахуй
[14:02:16] piranha: заебал писать хуйню
[14:02:26] piranha: откуда блять их намного больше?
[14:02:56] red-agent: я ебу что-ли откуда? Меня это тогда мало интересовали и не интересует до сих пор
[14:02:57] piranha: короче, организуешь пример, где покажешь, в чём проблема - можно даже внятное описание, как добиться, и тогда можем говорить
[14:03:00] piranha: а сейчас ты просто троллишь
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[14:04:51] red-agent: сейчас мне просто больше нравится централизованный контроль версий =)
[14:04:58] red-agent: а ты как сектант новоиспеченный
[14:05:09] red-agent: всех, кто не юзает hg - начинаешь обильно поливать слюнями
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[14:06:48] slav0nic: )
[14:07:24] red-agent: piranha: напишы лучше Addin для MD для поддержки mercurial, там как раз ищут =)
[14:08:15] Лис: WTF MD?
[14:08:35] red-agent: monodevelop :D
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[14:12:16] piranha: red-agent: чувак, просто ты щас написал хуйню, вот и всё
[14:12:20] piranha: мне не нравится это
[14:12:29] piranha: а думать ты можешь что угодно, лишь бы не писал
[14:12:30] red-agent: та я вижу
[14:12:31] red-agent: =)
[14:12:33] piranha: :)
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[14:12:37] piranha: [14:02] red-agent> проблема в том, что при мерже 10 реп в dvcs - конфилктов бля
намного больше

[14:12:43] piranha: ну что вот эта фраза значит?
[14:12:50] piranha: согласись, что ты написал хуйню неадекватную?
[14:13:01] red-agent: я написал то, с чем столкнулся
[14:13:04] piranha: а то если не согласишься, то... а в принципе и так всё с тобой ясно
[14:13:06] piranha: ты написал хуйню
[14:13:17] piranha: как ты мог столкнуться с тем, что конфликтов больше?
[14:13:20] piranha: КАК такое может быть?
[14:13:28] piranha: окстись, евлампий
[14:13:56] red-agent: имелось в виду не количественный показатель
[14:14:00] red-agent: а субьективный бля
[14:14:06] red-agent: *ебли* больше было
[14:14:07] piranha: субьективно ты долбоёб
[14:14:08] red-agent: и это запомнилось
[14:14:12] piranha: ага
[14:14:16] piranha: вазелина было мало
[14:14:21] Лис: http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/fail-owned-chicken-real-chicken-menu-fail1.jpg
[14:14:25] piranha: Лис: бля, ты читаешь это?
[14:14:49] red-agent: piranha: бля, пнх что-ли?
[14:14:54] piranha: ))))
[14:15:06] piranha: red-agent: я тебе уже сказал - опиши, как добиться пиздеца в двцс
[14:15:15] Лис: что это? как вы спорите, дак я сразу понял что спорить неоченм, нифига ты ему не докажеш
[14:15:19] piranha: тогда и поговорим
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[14:15:41] piranha: Лис: угу...
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[14:16:25] red-agent: piranha: берешь 10 локальных (per-user) реп с отборным сишным говнокодом, и пытаешся замержить их в общую репу, с примерно таким же кодом.
[14:16:32] red-agent: получая при этом хуеву тучу конфликтов
[14:17:32] Лис: и кто вызывает эту проблему? dvcs? или всё же говнокод?
[14:18:03] piranha: отсутствие мозга
[14:18:11] red-agent: юзеры, которые dvcs юзать не умеют
[14:18:15] red-agent: что будет и с django
[14:18:21] red-agent: в случае перевода её на dvcs
[14:18:24] piranha: red-agent: говорю опиши внятно, как добиться. С примером, как cvcs тут выигрывает
[14:18:31] Лис: ну, джанговские девелоперы народ грамотный
[14:19:22] red-agent: piranha: может и не выигрывает. но переход на dvcs - так или иначе будет связан с геморроем
[14:19:48] Лис: рельсы вот перешли, и ничё, живут как то :)
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[14:21:16] red-agent: у рор много коммитеров?
[14:21:33] piranha: конечно связан
[14:21:38] red-agent: (pusheров) :D
[14:21:41] piranha: переход с чего-то на что-то всегда связан с геморроем
[14:21:54] piranha: но у меня кагбе есть экспа перевода 30 человек на двцс
[14:21:56] red-agent: piranha: ну так об этом головатый бля и сказал
[14:21:59] piranha: а у тебя нету никуя
[14:22:06] piranha: ага
[14:22:11] piranha: но ты-то говоришь не об этом
[14:22:17] slav0nic: piranha, http://www.dzone.com/links/how_to_run_byteflow_blog_engine_on_jython.html

[14:22:17] piranha: ты говоришь о какой-то непонятной хери
[14:22:36] red-agent: я говорю о личном, малоприятном опыте. я не спорю, что возможно dvcs тут причастен косвенно
[14:22:37] piranha: slav0nic: ага, мне показывал учаснег пар дней назад :)
[14:22:44] red-agent: но меня в прошлый раз это заебало по полной программе
[14:22:52] piranha: то, что выстрелить себе в ногу можно - так это можно везде, лишь бы приложить усилия
[14:23:04] piranha: сначала ты спорил, утверждая что именно двцс и причина этом
[14:23:28] red-agent: ну очевидно, что если бы они юзали cvcs - они бы в репы не насрали
[14:23:29] piranha: а я говорю, что двцс в твоей проблеме не виноват никак. И с свн такая же проблема была бы, получи ты что-то подобное
[14:23:30] red-agent: свои локальные
[14:23:32] red-agent: хуй знает чем
[14:23:38] red-agent: и мне не пришлось бы все это резолвить
[14:23:40] piranha: они б в общую насрали
[14:24:02] red-agent: ну и пускай срут, пока мне не приходится разгребать это все
[14:24:17] red-agent: и так рано или поздно утонут в своем говне
[14:24:35] red-agent: у них строки кода на говноси иногда переваливают за 120-150 чаров
[14:24:56] piranha: ну дык не надо было резолвить
[14:25:01] piranha: надо было их заставлять
[14:25:07] piranha: точно как бы они делали с свн
[14:25:11] red-agent: угу, лопатой нада было
[14:25:13] red-agent: подойти
[14:25:15] red-agent: и по еблу
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[14:25:48] piranha: =)))
[14:26:04] bergamot: ножичком, ножичком
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[14:30:32] red-agent: piranha: слышь, борец за права dvcs, какие у hg биндинги есть?
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[14:30:55] bergamot: wtf биндинги?
[14:31:08] xa4a: bindings
[14:31:22] bergamot: аааа, вот оно что
[14:31:41] bergamot: привязки команд чтоли?
[14:32:00] red-agent: привязки к яп
[14:32:15] xa4a: да
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[14:33:07] piranha: http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html
[14:33:33] piranha: red-agent: питон
[14:33:51] piranha: import mercurial & gogogo
[14:33:55] red-agent: ну это и так понятно. а кроме него - ничего?
[14:33:58] piranha: ага
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[14:35:49] red-agent: ну теперь понятно, почему никто не хочет писать этот аддин
[14:36:30] piranha: =)
[14:37:47] red-agent: теоретически, можно попробовать портировать его на Iron и собрать в dll
[14:37:56] red-agent: и потом уже подключить из сишарпа
[14:39:42] piranha: хы
[14:39:48] piranha: ну там же есть расширения на си
[14:40:04] piranha: но вообще эцсамое...
[14:40:18] piranha: а, ну тот же bdiff на питоне не реализован, только на си...
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[14:42:04] red-agent: гм
[14:42:43] bergamot: объясните глупому, что дают эти самые биндинги?
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[14:47:03] sevenov: Эм. Весь тред не читал, но как я понял, агент предложил написать что-то на питоне, скомпилить в длл и юзать в сишарпе? оО
[14:47:04] sevenov: :)
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[14:54:48] red-agent: не написать, а портировать
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[14:55:02] red-agent: и не на питон, а на IronPython
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[14:59:00] piranha: bergamot: можно юзать напрямик функции из библиотеки, а не парсить вывод
[14:59:11] piranha: парсинг вывода обычно заметно более ненадёжный
[14:59:38] bergamot: ну это понятно.. а когда это приходится делать?
[14:59:41] red-agent: скорее абсолютно не надежный, как показала практика (hg + eclipse)
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[15:00:09] piranha: red-agent: а чё там с ним?
[15:00:19] red-agent: сыпится
[15:00:23] red-agent: буквально
[15:00:26] piranha: а то они вроде грят, что пытаюцо держать максимальную совместимость выводов
[15:00:28] piranha: хех
[15:00:34] red-agent: там есть 2 плагина
[15:00:42] piranha: bergamot: ну когда ты пишешь гуй, например
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[15:00:47] red-agent: один экстремально просто, с базовым набором функций - тот работает
[15:01:02] red-agent: а который более продвинутый - сыпит эксепшонами мама не горюй
[15:01:08] piranha: red-agent: собсна в экслипсе парсят вывод не потому, что биндингов нету, а потому, что линцезия эклипса с gplv2 несовместима
[15:01:18] red-agent: да я вкурсе
[15:01:23] red-agent: читал
[15:02:07] bergamot: гуй для хг? ну это понятно, а если я пишу веб-проекты НЕ для хг - мне это и не пригодится, так?
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[15:02:50] piranha: ну а так, я думаю, что сделать биндинги не слишком сложно
[15:02:52] piranha: взять anyvc и там прокидывать к тому, что тебе нужно
[15:03:26] red-agent: ну я щас пролистал код svn аддина
[15:03:37] red-agent: там заюзаны напрямую сишные биндинги
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[15:04:38] piranha: ага
[15:04:52] piranha: bergamot: угу, тебе оно нафиг не надо
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[15:06:44] slav0nic: в Komodo есть поддержка hg
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[15:07:55] piranha: а, не, anyvc - это тож питон
[15:08:48] red-agent: slav0nic: у них небось есть python <-> komodo api
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[15:10:15] red-agent: piranha: MD кстати порядком перспективная шняга
[15:10:26] piranha: mono develop?
[15:10:30] red-agent: угу
[15:10:39] piranha: MD у меня ассоциируется с 98 виндой
[15:10:43] piranha: must die :)
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[15:10:48] red-agent: там есть биндинги для питона, нормального, а не который Iron
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[15:10:53] piranha: хы
[15:10:56] piranha: а какая лицензия?
[15:11:19] red-agent: os, а конкретнее - нужно глянуть
[15:11:51] piranha: гпл
[15:12:00] piranha: главное чтоб была 2, потому 3 с 2 не совместимо
[15:12:30] red-agent: ну все моно-рилейтед идет в основном по gpl и mit
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[15:14:33] piranha: MonoDevelop is licensed under the GPL which can be read at [1] (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html).
[15:14:37] piranha: по ссылке - гпл в 3
[15:14:47] piranha: а они не специфицировали точно, что к чему
[15:14:56] piranha: ну эт у них просто нету экспы, похоже
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[15:17:08] red-agent: piranha: я вобще подумываю свой код под LGPL продюсить
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[15:31:14] red-agent: piranha: так что вот пока у MD не появится поддержка (нормальная HG) - я буду юзать svn =)
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[15:38:48] piranha: =)
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[15:40:56] piranha: вся коммьюнити скорбит
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[15:42:08] red-agent: ты кста косвенно прав
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[15:42:15] red-agent: сегодня же день памяти 33-го
[15:42:26] red-agent: кагбе
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[15:44:39] piranha: та ипать
[15:44:44] piranha: идиотизм блять отмечать такое
[15:44:54] piranha: 22 июня херли не отмечаем с помпой? :\
[15:45:17] red-agent: та это какбе и не отмечание
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[15:45:35] red-agent: это "почитание памяти погбишых" бла-бла-бла
[15:45:51] Лис: "день памяти 33-го" это про чо?
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[15:45:57] Лис: 33-го года?
[15:46:27] red-agent: голодомора 33его года
[15:46:51] Лис: а кто кого голодоморил?
[15:47:44] red-agent: Советскую Украину голодоморили
[15:48:23] Лис: сталин?
[15:48:35] red-agent: угу
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[15:49:11] Лис: у меня ещё в детстве сложилось впечатление что он известное хуйло
[15:49:44] Лис: это ж надо, собственную страну покрошить так, в СССР людей в лагерях сгноили больше чем в ВОВ погибло
[15:50:41] sevenov: зачем на stackoverflow коммент к вопросу? оО
[15:50:43] piranha: бей своих, чтоб чужие боялись
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[15:51:52] red-agent: Лис: 2.2 миллиона погибших
[15:52:14] red-agent: + на территории советской Украины - возник каннибализм (!)
[15:55:21] Лис: After this you can finally run Byteflow instance with django internal http server:
$export JYTHON_HOME=<path to Jython home>
$java -classpath $JYTHON_HOME/jython-complete.jar:<path to dowloaded jdbc jar>/postgresql-8.3-604.jdbc3.jar -Dpython.home="$JYTHON_HOME" org.python.util.jython manage.py runserver
[15:55:29] Лис: он што, ибанат?! %)
[15:55:37] Лис: кому может захотется такого?
[15:55:51] piranha: гхы гхы гхы
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[16:00:02] slav0nic: хы, ветерок неплохой на улице, по ходу штормовое
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[16:01:22] Лис: у нас тока что снег пошёл
[16:01:24] Лис: с дождём
[16:01:30] Лис: мерзкая погодка
[16:01:56] xa4a: у нас целый день снег-дождь
[16:02:31] xa4a: ночью шёл снег, днём как до +5 поднялась температура стал дождём, и ща снова снегом падает
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[16:02:53] xa4a: вот въебёт ночью мороз - на утро на дорогах дубет пиздец
[16:03:08] Лис: гг
[16:03:11] Лис: этода
[16:03:11] piranha: ога
[16:03:17] piranha: я вот ездил сёдня в ирпень
[16:03:21] piranha: отэто мясо на дорогах
[16:03:26] piranha: засрато всё этим снегом
[16:03:35] piranha: ух завтра жестячог будет с утра :)
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[16:03:49] red-agent: угу, каток заебенный будет
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[16:04:37] piranha: ага, причём бугристый, скотина
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[16:06:21] red-agent: та бугристый то бля еще беды. а вот когда стекло
[16:06:29] red-agent: если влетаешь - даже торможение двигателем до пизды
[16:06:34] red-agent: *пол
[16:06:39] Лис: piranha, кстате, ты таки воткнул нафига named branches в hg?
[16:07:25] Лис: в git то их мачить можно после окончания их жизни, а в hg ты их везде с собой таскать будешь
[16:07:31] piranha: ну по крайней мере я нашёл им применение
[16:07:35] Лис: явно у них другое предназначение
[16:07:39] Лис: какое?
[16:08:02] piranha: когда ты развиваешь что-то на основе какой-то софтины, то удобно новые версии апстрима запихивать в отдельный намед бранч
[16:08:10] piranha: ну типа вот как ДОУ на вордпрессе
[16:08:25] piranha: им удобно было б ложить новые версии вордпресса в бранч upstream
[16:08:42] piranha: а так - хз, а для чего бранчи в ЦВС юзали? Они ж там тоже неубиваемые были
[16:08:53] Лис: угу
[16:09:03] Лис: а вот в git очень даже убиваемые
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[16:09:11] piranha: ну вон в новом хг будут букмарки
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[16:09:20] piranha: практически аналог гитовых бранчей
[16:09:35] Лис: и вообще git-ом полный беспредел можно с ревизиями мутить %)
[16:09:43] Лис: мачить/переставлять как угожно
[16:10:34] Лис: http://matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/perfect-3-column.htm
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[16:10:52] Лис: может кому то пригодится :)
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[16:10:55] piranha: ну так в хг точно так же
[16:11:02] piranha: возьми mq - here you go
[16:11:11] piranha: просто что не будет интерактивного режима
[16:11:17] piranha: ну я и не уверен, что он нужен
[16:11:34] piranha: а ваще дёргать ревизии - почти стопроцентная гарантия того, что ты где-то проебал
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[16:28:13] red-agent: есть даже конфа D
[16:29:04] piranha: D?
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[16:29:40] red-agent: угу, D
[16:29:45] red-agent: который от Digital Mars
[16:30:45] piranha: а
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[19:51:01] Casufi: Подскажите как в vimdiff переключаться между окнами ?
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[19:54:32] red-agent: "Ох уж эта фирма Чейтософт - вечно у них ошибки!" характеризует, мягко говоря, непрофессионализм говорящего.(с) intuit.ru
[19:54:35] red-agent: йаплакаль
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[20:44:01] Casufi: Есть философский вопрос.
[20:44:53] Casufi: Хочется юзеру, при написании контента разрешить его оформлять по своему вкусу. Лучше всего для этого подходит FckEditor.
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[20:46:01] Casufi: С другой стороны, весь сайт оформлен в едином стиле, и поэтому юзеру нужно разрешить использовать только те теги, которые прописанны в моих стилях. Насколько я знаю в Fck это тоже можно настроить
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[20:46:55] Casufi: Можно ли дополнительно из HTML текста вырезать запрещенные теги при сохранении в базу ?
[20:47:18] red-agent: захер в html?
[20:47:21] red-agent: markdown, restructured.
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[20:52:45] piranha: sevenov: ^^
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[20:56:02] sevenov: piranha, отлично. Списиб :)
[20:56:10] piranha: sevenov: опенид приделай
[20:56:16] piranha: а то это как-то неприлично даже :)
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[20:57:00] sevenov: Да точил-точил этот django-openid. Какашка какая-то :)
[20:57:07] piranha: йес
[20:57:10] piranha: но деваться некуда )
[20:57:14] piranha: можешь написать заново
[20:58:13] sevenov: вот подумываю :)
[20:58:51] sevenov: хотя, если покапаться, думаю можно переписать вместо написания с нуля
[20:59:51] piranha: та оно ужасно
[20:59:53] piranha: лучше не надо
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[21:00:01] red-agent: мононуклеоз.
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[21:00:44] sevenov: я вот думаю, как на rutube.ru сделали openid-авторизацию. Она аяксная вся такая. Как-то не совсем понятно.
[21:01:24] piranha: долго долбились
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[21:01:37] piranha: такое можно сделать, но ёманарот нужна нормальная аппликуха
[21:01:40] piranha: а не джанго-опенид
[21:02:01] sevenov: угу
[21:02:35] sevenov: пока сделаю обычную, а потом уже и о аяксе подумаю :)
[21:03:16] piranha: угу
[21:03:25] piranha: аякс - переделывать половину надо будет
[21:04:36] piranha: я про django-openid
[21:04:53] sevenov: я уж понял )
а вот есть еще http://code.google.com/p/django-openid-auth
[21:04:56] sevenov: не тыкал?
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[21:05:07] piranha: тыкал всё, до чего руки добрались
[21:05:24] piranha: и остановился на django-openid как на единственном нормально рабочем и вменяемом хоть как-то
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[21:05:33] piranha: хотя может я не уловил прелести этого просто
[21:05:39] piranha: там есть форки django-openid'a
[21:05:51] piranha: я грубо говоря один из форков и юзал
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[21:06:36] sevenov: вот сейчас рассматриваю django-authopenid
[21:07:02] sevenov: вроде б самый аккуратный
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[21:09:24] sevenov: url(r'^%s$' % _('signin/'), 'signin', name='user_signin'),
url(r'^%s$' % _('signout/'), 'signout', name='user_signout'),
url(r'^%s%s$' % (_('signin/'), _('complete/')), 'complete_signin',
[21:09:26] sevenov: жесть
[21:09:51] wiz: люди, а что вы делаете, когда вроде и хочется что-нибудь накодить, но таааак влооооммм? ((=
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[21:10:41] sevenov: wiz, странное чувство ) если хочется - пишу:)
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[21:13:29] red-agent: wiz: сдаемся в дурку.и
[21:13:41] red-agent: и говорим им, что диагноз - амбивалентность.
[21:14:18] sevenov: red-agent, зачем там сложно - амбивалентность? :)
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[21:16:39] red-agent: "там"?
[21:16:41] red-agent: там будет просто
[21:16:45] red-agent: колеса, уколы
[21:16:50] red-agent: шоковая терапия...
[21:18:00] sevenov: *так :)
Хех. Что-то с тобой моно делает нехорошее )
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[21:28:50] wiz: http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/p/o/portwain/001.jpg
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[21:53:14] piranha: sevenov: ага, убивает понемногу :)
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[22:12:33] red-agent: /me со сверкающими глазами сделал себе иньекцию люминесцентно-зеленого препарата с логотипом Mono на шприце...
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[22:33:25] A2K: red-agent, http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5025/krgp1.png
[22:33:31] A2K: скриншот из нового нфс :)
[22:33:47] A2K: и это НЕ форд мустанг
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[22:34:26] red-agent: это шевроле
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[22:35:40] A2K: хууй
[22:35:45] A2K: это shelby :)
[22:36:01] A2K: Shelby GT500KR
[22:36:09] A2K: тот самый knight rider
[22:36:42] piranha: http://clisp.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/clisp/clisp/doc/Why-CLISP-is-under-GPL
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[22:36:54] red-agent: возможно, меня это в данный момент мало ебет
[22:37:15] A2K: я просто удивился когда это в игре обнаружил
[22:37:28] A2K: при том что там есть оригинальный форд мустанг, который выглядит почти так же
[22:37:33] red-agent: в данный момент меня ебет System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager
[22:37:44] A2K: это жава чтоли?
[22:37:53] red-agent: mono
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