[00:00:01] piranha: просто что это полная херь
[00:00:04] gigimon: sevenov: людям некуда время деть наверно
[00:00:11] piranha: вообще не понимаю смысла и ничего такого
[00:00:14] sevenov: gigimon, да хз ))
[00:00:15] piranha: кстати, с дарксом было бы проще
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[00:02:52] sevenov: даркс?
[00:03:14] piranha: darcs
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[00:03:23] piranha: sevenov: http://projects.haskell.org/camp/unique
[00:03:25] sevenov: /me питон ацтой, он ущербен! Я вот тут начал писать на php. Охуенный язык
[00:03:26] piranha: посмотри это видео
[00:03:31] sevenov: ща )
[00:03:43] piranha: camp - это то, что будет darcs 3.x
[00:04:31] sevenov: /me недоволен. Покормит сегодня кто нибудь неудачного тролля?
[00:04:32] sevenov: ))
[00:04:44] gigimon: sevenov: иди на лор (:
[00:04:49] piranha: Покорми тролля. Покорми тролля, сука!
[00:04:52] gigimon: хотя там тем нету сеня интересных
[00:05:03] gigimon: /me вспомнил картинку: погладь кота
[00:05:17] piranha: о ней и речь
[00:05:26] piranha: посмотри мой аватар в ждаббере )
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[00:05:43] sevenov: piranha, хуя ты манула извратил =)
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[00:05:49] piranha: эт не я :)
[00:05:52] piranha: я только заюзал картинку :)))
[00:05:57] piranha: кайфовый ваще! ;)
[00:06:00] gigimon: piranha: гг
[00:06:03] piranha: бгггг
[00:07:34] sevenov: /me ржод как злой гений из мультиков
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[00:08:34] gigimon is now Nothing
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[00:09:23] xa4a: хм
[00:09:33] xa4a: а там ничего не было встроенного для обрезания html тегов?
[00:09:45] xa4a: кроме re
[00:10:04] piranha: django.utils.html.striptags
[00:10:06] piranha: )
[00:10:15] xa4a: не джанга
[00:10:33] piranha: спизди код, говорю
[00:10:39] piranha: встроенного нету
[00:10:39] gigimon is now Nothing played
[00:10:47] piranha: там вроде ре юзается
[00:11:23] xa4a: может я давно не обновлялся, но нет там striptags
[00:11:29] xa4a: в utils
[00:11:54] piranha: хм
[00:11:54] xa4a: а
[00:11:58] piranha: оно там уже миллионы лет
[00:12:03] piranha: что?
[00:12:07] piranha: я ошипсо с путём?
[00:12:10] xa4a: то был http
[00:12:23] xa4a: а
[00:12:33] xa4a: 55 def strip_tags(value): 56 """Returns the given HTML with all tags stripped.""" 57 return re.sub(r'<[^>]*?>', '', force_unicode(value))
[00:12:44] xa4a: я это и хотел сам написать)
[00:13:04] piranha: )))
[00:13:09] piranha: бгггг
[00:13:15] piranha: я чот думал оно длиннее
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[00:14:06] Лис: пиздец какое мясо этот камп
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[00:16:43] piranha: в плане?
[00:16:49] piranha: даркс же точно так же работает
[00:16:58] Лис: я хз как даркс работает
[00:17:08] piranha: ты в смысле что он может разломать всё нах?
[00:17:09] Лис: раньше я думал что гит инопланетянский
[00:17:13] piranha: гыгы
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[00:17:30] Лис: шо за ДАГ?
[00:17:33] piranha: эээ
[00:17:40] piranha: directed acyclic graph
[00:17:50] piranha: то, что ты видишь в монотоне и всех наследниках :)
[00:17:59] piranha: дерево ветвящееся
[00:18:01] Лис: ниразу не видел онотона
[00:18:05] Лис: монотона
[00:18:07] piranha: ты видел хг?
[00:18:09] piranha: или гит?
[00:18:14] piranha: они оба на его модельке построены
[00:18:17] xa4a: !logs онотон
[00:18:21] xa4a: !logs онотона
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[00:18:34] xa4a: !logs git
[00:18:43] piranha: !logs онотоле
[00:18:46] piranha: =)
[00:18:57] sevenov: !logs онотоле
[00:19:16] sevenov: а че пони комманды не логирует?
[00:19:56] Лис: вполне естественная модель в условиях распределённости
[00:20:09] piranha: Лис: кто против?
[00:20:15] piranha: даркс - это альтернативная
[00:20:22] Лис: но бля, в однои репе, в обном бранче, и ветвления какие то...нипаняяяятна
[00:20:28] piranha: и с подключение ИИ намного круче
[00:20:28] Лис: одном*
[00:20:31] piranha: бля, нету там ветвлений!
[00:20:38] piranha: это чисто для понимания
[00:20:40] piranha: кто от кого зависит
[00:20:42] Лис: дак тока что в видике показывали
[00:20:49] piranha: там тупо pool изменений
[00:20:53] piranha: с зависимостями
[00:21:07] piranha: но это не ветвления в обычном понимании этого слова
[00:21:10] Лис: хм
[00:21:11] xa4a: sevenov: это преднамеренно)
[00:21:19] sevenov: xa4a, эх ))
[00:21:31] piranha: Лис: но он получает пиздюлину в сложном случае
[00:21:35] piranha: и не очень быстро работает
[00:21:38] piranha: именно из-за этого
[00:21:46] Лис: АХТУНГ!
пиранью зохавали инопланетяне, он осилил даркс
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[00:22:13] piranha: тю
[00:22:27] piranha: я просто про него год назад читал
[00:22:32] piranha: и со временем понял :D
[00:22:43] Лис: /me зырит на скриншоты GTA4
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[00:26:08] sevenov: >[01:22:40 AM] Лис дрочит на скриншоты GTA4
fixed ;-)
[00:26:32] Лис: fork you, проклятый извращенец
[00:26:44] sevenov: ггг
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[00:27:38] xa4a: http://archiv.gta4.cz/images_fakescreens/fakescreen_071b_gta4.vokr.com.jpg ыэ. это?
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[00:28:50] Лис: да уж
[00:28:53] Лис: пиздец графика
[00:29:08] xa4a: хотя в урле - fakescreen
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[00:39:46] sevenov: Доктор встречает своего давнего пациента...
- Здравствуйте, на удивление хорошо выглядите! Как ваша язва?
- Уехала на неделю к матери!
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[00:42:39] gigimon: Лис: покажи скриншоты )
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[00:43:22] gigimon: гта4 кстати сломали уже?
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[00:45:28] sevenov: gigimon, сломали
[00:45:41] sevenov: теперь не работает и все смотрят только на скриншоты :D
[00:46:04] Лис: http://i050.radikal.ru/0812/bf/14dce0c53b37.jpg
http://s41.radikal.ru/i091/0812/f2/a21734c5ca68.jpg
http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/0812/55/9eb61d12b9e6.jpg
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[00:46:19] Лис: http://s46.radikal.ru/i111/0812/17/5fb80f537a64.jpg
[00:47:16] gigimon: Лис: это нормальные из игры? или фейки ?
[00:47:25] Лис: из игры
[00:47:31] gigimon: чета уж очень красиво (:
[00:47:43] gigimon: надо буедт поиграть
[00:47:57] Лис: у меня маздая нет :(
[00:48:10] gigimon: у меня стоит, по учебе надо
[00:48:13] Лис: да и желеха тоже, что бы в ГТА4 играть
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[00:48:32] gigimon: я летом апгрейдился,поэтому должно потянуть)
[00:49:05] sevenov: а че нормальная-то графика? деревья угловатые, люди жирные, и остановки квадратные
[00:51:22] sevenov: хаха ))
<lionmv> нет у мну чорный пояс по кулинарии
<lionmv> могу убить одной котлетой
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[01:01:34] sevenov: Эх. Чет спать не охота, и делать нечего
[01:01:53] piranha: sevenov: почитай какую-нить херь
[01:01:58] piranha: http://stevenf.pbwiki.com/iPhone+vs+T-Mobile+G1
[01:02:03] piranha: http://stevenf.pbwiki.com/Don%27t-Use-FTP
[01:02:13] piranha: http://minima.soup.io/
[01:02:35] sevenov: про мобилы не интересно, фтп не юзаю )
[01:02:55] sevenov: Вот жду, когда oresama сольется с торрентов
[01:03:23] sevenov: вот нахера вставать на раздачу, если быстрее 20K не можешь отдать? Не понимаю таких людей.
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[01:04:14] sevenov: блин, джанга делает жизнь скучнее ((
[01:05:14] piranha: чё?
[01:05:57] sevenov: ну написал уже "управление задачами".
[01:06:23] sevenov: надо конечно еще документооборот присобачить и сделать полноценную erp
[01:06:53] sevenov: а щас HRM
[01:07:03] piranha: ыч
[01:07:15] piranha: почтовый клиент вызвал емагз шоб отредактировать письмо
[01:07:21] piranha: а тут мне мессага в джаббер пришла
[01:07:23] piranha: гыгы
[01:07:39] sevenov: и что случилось? )
[01:07:43] piranha: ну ничо
[01:07:47] piranha: вот из консоли сижу пишу :)
[01:07:56] piranha: :Р
[01:07:56] sevenov: гг ) Я думал что-то интересное будет :)
[01:08:05] piranha: а шо может быть интереснее? :)
[01:08:10] piranha: сёдня ифон щупал
[01:08:16] piranha: и сходу придумал адский апгрейд ему
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[01:08:31] piranha: я вот думаю, а может это можно сделать аппликухой и по 5 баксов парить на аппсторе?
[01:08:32] piranha: )))
[01:08:34] sevenov: к примеру, емакс сделал пыщь, и ты его удалил :D
[01:08:41] sevenov: /me злобно ухмыльнулся
[01:08:43] piranha: а в замену что? :(
[01:08:47] piranha: всё ж - убожество
[01:08:49] sevenov: piranha, консоль :D
[01:09:01] piranha: чё?
[01:09:03] piranha: не понял
[01:09:29] sevenov: ну в голой консоли, vi и telnet o_O
[01:09:44] sevenov: ну в качестве замены
[01:09:58] sevenov: я просто издеваюсь, настроение какое-то накуренное (
[01:10:04] piranha: ты походу втыкаешь
[01:10:07] piranha: а не издеваешься ;)
[01:10:19] sevenov: втыкаю во что? :)
[01:10:41] piranha: вообще
[01:10:45] sevenov: * Tarvitz попинал sevenov
* sevenov отодвинулся и дальше спать
[01:10:48] piranha: хельветиридер рулит, кстати
[01:11:05] sevenov: хельветридер втф )
[01:11:16] piranha: я ж выше дал ссылку
[01:11:28] sevenov: где? шШ
[01:13:09] sevenov: /me ушел смотреть какой-то Live Action
[01:13:24] piranha: sevenov: http://helvetireader.com/
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[01:13:43] sevenov: нет этой ссылки
[01:13:58] piranha: Sat 6 Dec 2008 20:00
[20:05] piranha> http://helvetireader.com/
[01:14:11] sevenov: аа, ну тогда я пропустил
[01:15:14] sevenov: о, круто
[01:15:21] sevenov: все, я ушол
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[09:51:49] piranha: привет
[09:52:16] Лис: кревед
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[09:58:35] renyare: http://vvw.ru/index.php?newsid=4524 уже видели?
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[09:59:38] Лис: так выглядит криво, vvw.ru
[09:59:48] Лис: будто буквы покосились %)
[10:00:06] stanislav.pugachev: Лис. как сделать чтобы в шаблоне элемент который содержит хтмл вывелся как хтмл а не как строка?
[10:00:14] stanislav.pugachev: ммм
[10:00:17] stanislav.pugachev: неправильно объяснил
[10:00:42] stanislav.pugachev: {{ fe.back_end }} == <input type="text" size="50">
[10:00:44] stanislav.pugachev: например
[10:00:57] stanislav.pugachev: эта фигня так тупо текстом и выпадает на страницу ))
[10:01:00] stanislav.pugachev: а нада шоб хмтл был )
[10:01:01] renyare: сгенерённый хтмл - зло
[10:01:19] stanislav.pugachev: я знаю но тут вся фишка в генерации хтмл
[10:01:26] Лис: stanislav.pugachev, http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/templates/builtins/#autoescape
[10:01:35] stanislav.pugachev: спс
[10:01:47] Лис: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/templates/builtins/#safe
[10:02:05] Лис: первый - это тег, второй - фильтр
[10:02:14] renyare: отключённый эскейпинг - прямой путь к XSS
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[10:03:54] Лис: renyare, а когда в шаблоне пишеш {{ form }}
и вместо этого появляется здоровенный кусок html формы, это тоже плохо, да?
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[10:04:12] Лис: надо всё руками рисовать?
[10:04:47] renyare: если эскейпинг включён, то наверное нормально
[10:05:20] Лис: если эскейпинг включен, то вместо формы ты увидишь < >
[10:05:25] Лис: гг
[10:06:12] renyare: в смысле там сама джанга эскейпит
[10:06:17] piranha: renyare: максимализм не только не полезен, но и вреден :Р
[10:06:18] renyare: аттрибуты
[10:06:31] renyare: и теги внутри полей
[10:06:38] piranha: и когда надо вывести сгенерённый хтмл, то говорить о том, что это зло, как-то странно - какие альтернативы? :)
[10:06:42] Лис: renyare, признайся, ты не в теме по повобу forms
[10:06:46] Лис: поводу*
[10:06:47] renyare: а когда ты сам генеришь, придётся контролировать
[10:06:55] renyare: я не в теме - признаюсь :)
[10:07:07] Лис: тогда останосить нести чушь ;)
[10:07:41] renyare: мы же не только и не столько про формы говорим, сколько в общем про сгенерённый хтмл в шаблоне )
[10:08:07] Лис: формы, это яркий пример
[10:08:18] renyare: я к этому и говорю: генеришь сам - контролируй XSS
[10:08:26] renyare: джанга, я думаю, контролирует )
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[10:08:52] piranha: )
[10:09:03] Лис: ну да, у неё есть автоэскейп
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[10:09:19] piranha: http://www.eldar.com/node/240
[10:09:21] piranha: зочитайте
[10:09:29] piranha: мне несколько глаза на некоторые проблемы раскрыло
[10:09:30] piranha: :)
[10:09:32] Лис: давно я читаю этого йаврейчега
[10:09:47] Лис: и чем дальше, тем сильнее раздражает
[10:10:04] Лис: графоман какой то
[10:10:31] piranha: гыгы
[10:10:33] piranha: а я вот недавно
[10:10:41] piranha: пока не раздражает, но графоман явно
[10:11:33] renyare: дык специально учился ))
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[10:15:13] piranha: :)
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[10:17:03] Typhon: а у кого были сравнения mod_wsgi vs mod_python в блоге?
[10:17:51] Лис: да забудь ты уже про /static/img/uploads/2008/12/08/dracula-gothic-text_03.png
[10:18:01] Лис: бля %)
[10:18:05] Лис: про mod_python
[10:18:21] Typhon: да я уже
[10:18:22] Лис: /me попалился, но не сильно %)
[10:18:28] Лис: Typhon, у пираньи
[10:18:30] Typhon: сомневающимся показать
[10:18:40] Typhon: а линка нет? а то я ща смотрю у него и не вижу :(
[10:19:37] Лис: нет, ищи :)
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[10:22:03] piranha: не, у меня там не было мод_всги против мод_питон
[10:22:13] piranha: хотя хм
[10:22:17] Typhon: угу, просто в коментах было
[10:22:21] Typhon: "на чем запускать джангу"
[10:22:22] piranha: Typhon: "wsgi серверы кратко"
[10:22:25] piranha: а, или так
[10:22:27] piranha: )
[10:22:39] piranha: в комментах просто, да...
[10:22:44] piranha: я кстати таки ставил мод питон вроде
[10:22:48] piranha: но он лажал :)
[10:24:27] stanislav.pugachev: чота я ниасилил про девочку и техподдержку
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[10:27:01] Лис: гг
[10:27:03] Лис: +1
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[10:27:14] Лис: я вырубил на первой минуте :)
[10:27:17] Лис: чуть не уснул
[10:27:29] piranha: а что за девочка?
[10:27:43] stanislav.pugachev: да забей тупняк ппк
[10:27:44] stanislav.pugachev: ппц
[10:27:54] piranha: http://p1r4nh4.livejournal.com/166892.html
[10:27:56] piranha: =))))
[10:28:00] stanislav.pugachev: девочка чото хотела от оператора тех поддержки
[10:28:02] stanislav.pugachev: очередная реклама
[10:28:50] stanislav.pugachev: )
[10:28:53] stanislav.pugachev: водило ))
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[10:31:02] stanislav.pugachev: а я с ужасом жду 15 числа ) когда придет хозяйка и скажет шо гривна ее уже не воззбуждает ) и попросит отдать в баксе )
[10:31:46] Typhon: stanislav.pugachev: http://ilibrary.ru/text/69/index.html
[10:32:10] stanislav.pugachev: +1
[10:32:30] stanislav.pugachev: ток ее трогать низзя )
[10:32:34] stanislav.pugachev: миллионерша )
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[10:50:53] piranha: ну это просто жопа
[10:51:03] piranha: :(
[10:51:12] piranha: Лис: ты давно с contribute_to_class возился?
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[11:38:16] Casufi: Подскажите, как на английском звучит - трехзвенная архитектура ?
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[11:38:42] Лис: piranha, вообще не разу :)
[11:39:13] stanislav.pugachev: three-level architecture
[11:39:18] piranha: западляцкая дрянь низкоуровневая :(
[11:39:19] stanislav.pugachev: наверное как то так
[11:39:23] renyare: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%80%D1%91%D1%85%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0
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[11:40:24] stanislav.pugachev: хех ниугадал
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[11:43:04] Casufi: спасибо
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[12:00:01] Лис: Провайдеры Великобритании закрыли доступ к страницам Википедии
[12:00:06] Лис: хехе
[12:00:14] Лис: демократия FTW!
[12:00:18] Лис: http://www.securitylab.ru/news/364321.php
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[12:01:00] piranha: какая демократия
[12:01:03] piranha: )
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[12:01:55] Лис: британская конечно
[12:01:59] piranha: а ваще зачот, конечно :)
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[12:28:56] stanislav.pugachev: народ посмарите плз чо неправильно в определении своего тега в джанге http://dumpz.org/3822/
[12:29:22] stanislav.pugachev: или если там все правильно то почему я получаю на {% custom_text %} Invalid block tag: 'custom_text'
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[12:34:10] Лис: {% load your_cool_taglibrary %}
[12:34:12] Лис: сделал?
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[12:34:43] gigimon: привет
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[12:35:48] stanislav.pugachev: нет
[12:35:57] stanislav.pugachev: так она у меня встроена как бы
[12:36:03] stanislav.pugachev: gigimon прив
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[12:36:21] Лис: stanislav.pugachev, и я обычно register.tag пишу в виде декоратора
@register.tag
def custom_text(parser, token):
[12:36:24] Лис: как то так :)
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[12:37:13] stanislav.pugachev: ну ето исправил ) анука про лайбрари поподробней )
[12:37:17] stanislav.pugachev: плыз
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[12:38:26] Лис: файл app/templatetags/your_cool_taglibrary.py
в котором находится твой тег
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[12:40:04] stanislav.pugachev: а темплейттагс обязательно выносить в отдельный аппликейшн?
[12:40:14] Лис: нет
[12:40:40] Лис: хотя погоди
[12:40:48] Лис: в корне проекта templatetags быть не может
[12:40:57] Лис: оно полюбому в апликухе должно быть
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[12:42:32] stanislav.pugachev: теперь лоад ломается
[12:42:34] stanislav.pugachev: 'custom_widgets' is not a valid tag library: Could not load template library from django.templatetags.custom_widgets, No module named custom_widgets
[12:42:37] stanislav.pugachev: запихал в аппликуху
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[12:43:02] stanislav.pugachev: а в инсталлед_аппс ты както указывал это все?
[12:43:20] Лис: app должен быть в INSTALLED_APPS
[12:43:21] Лис: конечно
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[12:43:46] Лис: а в app/templatetags ты __init__.py не забыл создать?
[12:44:22] stanislav.pugachev: нет не забыл
[12:44:35] stanislav.pugachev: понятно что сам апп есть в инсталлед
[12:44:36] Лис: "карочи склихасофский" (с)
[12:44:37] Лис: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/custom-template-tags/#howto-custom-template-tags
[12:44:42] stanislav.pugachev: а темплейт таг там никак не фигурирует?
[12:44:47] Лис: а то мне надоело переписывать ман
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[12:45:05] stanislav.pugachev: так я оттуда и слизываЛ ))
[12:45:12] Лис: плохо слизывал
[12:45:16] Лис: полижи ещё
[12:45:17] Лис: :D
[12:45:19] gigimon: хых
[12:46:01] stanislav.pugachev: пока еще никто не жаловался )
[12:46:04] piranha: полижи кота
[12:46:06] piranha: :)
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[12:47:41] piranha: так тупо, когда ищешь описание своей траблы и первым ответом вылазит твой блог. Особенно когда ты знаешь, что это описание совсем другого
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[12:48:57] Лис: гага %)
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[12:50:57] Лис: от sites кто зависит?
[12:51:05] Лис: хочу вырубить его к чорту
[12:51:14] piranha: флетпейджы
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[12:51:35] slav0nic: кстати его кто-то юзал?
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[12:51:48] Лис: а кроме них
[12:51:50] Лис: ещё есть?
[12:51:50] slav0nic: а то думаю 2 сайта на 1 админку повесить
[12:52:02] Лис: я себе уже накатал замену флатпейджам %)
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[12:53:23] Лис: а я как раз вот наоборот, думаю над тем что бы разнести сайты по разным БД
[12:53:31] Лис: но рулить всем делом с одного запуска джанги
[12:53:54] piranha: slav0nic: нихерасе кто-то юзал
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[12:54:08] piranha: надо бы тебе следить за развитием бф :Р
[12:54:09] piranha: бггг
[12:54:16] piranha: slav0nic: я щас юзаю
[12:54:29] slav0nic: )
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[12:55:22] Лис: piranha, зря кстате
[12:55:26] Лис: он довольно тухлый
[12:55:41] Лис: и насколько я понял его вырежут когда то
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[12:55:56] piranha: ну вырежут - тогда и посмотрим
[12:55:58] piranha: склонирую
[12:56:12] piranha: а сча он для меня отлично работает, учитывая что я юзаю собственную миддлварь
[12:56:12] Лис: на #django ubernostrum ругался про него %)
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[12:56:19] piranha: по дефолту он, конечно, убогий
[12:56:28] piranha: Лис: мож он не придумал, как его использовать? :)
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[13:53:41] Лис: [13:52:12] _ulises: for me mod_python wasn't an option
[13:52:22] Tarantulafudge: _ulises: why not?
[13:52:27] _ulises: not enough RAM
[13:52:32] Tarantulafudge: really?
[13:52:39] _ulises: yup, only 256M
[13:52:46] Tarantulafudge: thats... not enough??
[13:52:59] Tarantulafudge: o.0
[13:52:59] _ulises: apparently not for mod_python ;)
[13:53:48] Лис: (:
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[13:55:06] Лис: чорт, меня аж разрывает
[13:55:10] Лис: от сомнений
[13:55:12] Лис: чо мутить
[13:55:41] Лис: хочу сделать мульти сайтовый движог, но вот сделать всё в одной базе, или сделать много разных баз?
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[14:01:36] piranha: в одной
[14:01:41] piranha: с многими больше йопли потом
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[14:01:46] piranha: и это не скалабельное решение :
[14:01:48] piranha: :Р
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[14:02:57] Лис: piranha, я вот втыкаю на втой dynamicsite
[14:03:08] Лис: мидлтварь
[14:03:42] Лис: как то видел, чувак присвоил settings.SITE_ID thread.local()
[14:03:49] Лис: а там дальше уже мутил крутил
[14:04:02] Лис: в милдваре менял по ходу дела
[14:04:20] Лис: просто глобально меня settings.SITE_ID как то сцыкотно
[14:04:56] Лис: о
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[14:04:58] Лис: http://www.djangosnippets.org/snippets/1099/
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[14:06:14] Лис: /me потыкал палочкой piranha
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[14:06:30] Лис: манул улыбающийся, ты где? :)
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[14:22:51] Лис: какую бы тикетную систему поставить
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[14:36:39] Лис: http://www.securitylab.ru/news/364345.php
[14:36:56] Лис: /trollmod on
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[14:38:10] piranha: Лис: раундап может?
[14:38:34] piranha: Лис: так у меня settings.SITE_ID - тоже тредлокал
[14:38:40] piranha: я ж оттуда и стырил
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[14:38:56] Лис: а
[14:38:58] Лис: гг
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[14:39:55] Лис: тоды одобряю
[14:39:59] Лис: и...
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[14:40:03] Лис: беру на вооружение ;)
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[14:40:22] Лис: а про тикетные системы кто чо скажет?
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[14:41:03] piranha: раундап
[14:41:05] piranha: roundup
[14:41:11] piranha: но это чисто тикеты и больше ничего
[14:41:16] piranha: но зато кастомизируецо круче некуда
[14:41:21] piranha: правда, будет ли оно тебе полезно - хз
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[14:41:33] Лис: ща позырю
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[14:43:03] Лис: фу гавняшка, даже IMAP не умеет %)
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[14:43:18] piranha: ээээ
[14:43:26] piranha: это ж не его дело, с почтой возиццо
[14:43:34] piranha: возьми sos )
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[14:43:44] piranha: http://www.zedshaw.com/projects/sos/
[14:43:50] red-agent: Лис: чем траковые тикеты не подходят?
[14:44:12] Лис: мне именно саппорт нужен
[14:44:16] Лис: а не девелопмент тикеты
[14:44:23] red-agent: аа
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[14:44:37] red-agent: не долго свое набросать
[14:44:48] Лис: есть готовое
[14:44:51] Лис: jutda
[14:44:58] Лис: тока хз как оно внутри
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[14:45:02] Лис: точнее я даже немного знаю
[14:45:06] Лис: оно уродливо %)
[14:45:09] Лис: зато на джанге
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[14:47:14] piranha: одно из самых херовых слов - "зато"
[14:47:40] Лис: в том смысле что дописывать/переписывать будет менее впадлу
[14:47:45] Лис: чем скажем в пхп
[14:47:49] Лис: или ещё лучше perl
[14:47:59] Лис: RT тот же вспомнить
[14:48:00] Лис: %)
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[14:48:14] Лис: у меня от него досихпор седые волосы
[14:48:38] Лис: года 4 назад ставил его
[14:49:23] Лис: а админ, тот вообще в обморок падает при слове RT :D
так и издеваюсь над ним, гг
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[14:53:46] slav0nic: хм, в перле нет ограничения на число тредов как в питоне?
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[15:13:50] piranha: http://sinatra.rubyforge.org/
прикольная шняга
[15:13:58] piranha: может попробовать мимикрировать её на питоне? :)
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[15:16:02] Лис: хых
[15:16:08] Лис: снова по руби шаришся :)
[15:16:09] bergamot: чем она лучше web.py?
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[15:17:21] slav0nic: piranha, не ожидал от тебя такого....
[15:18:05] bergamot: это шютко?
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[15:20:27] renyare: хыхы, пхп с урлами
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[15:21:14] bergamot: renyare, что за оскорбления?
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[15:22:29] penpen: штука неплохая, только ничем не лучше webpy со своим диспетчером
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[15:23:50] renyare: а объявления темплейтов в том же файле не смущают?
[15:24:41] wiz: get '/' do -- прикольно, забавно.
get '/foo', :agent => /Songbird (\d\.\d)[\d\/]*?/ do -- фубля, ужоснах.
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[15:25:42] renyare: \o.\o
[15:25:49] renyare: смайлег
[15:25:56] penpen: на самом деле нет, ибо насколько я помню руби умеет подключать файлы в текущее пространство имен.
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[15:26:31] penpen: а haml это в первую очередь руби код, а уже потом шаблоны
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[15:28:41] penpen: по аналогии -- построение гуя, допустим в pyqt. код создания формы выносится в отдельный модуль, но никто не запрещает засунуть код генерации интерфейса в основной файл с логикой.
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[15:31:35] Лис: haml руби код?!
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[15:32:55] renyare: бедные дизайнеры.учить новый язык разметки.
[15:33:01] renyare: опять
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[15:33:30] penpen: практически да. насколько я помню оно формирует дерево обьектов в рубях и по нему строит хтмл. хотя могу ошибаться, последний раз руби трогал довольно давно
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[15:34:42] Лис: :)
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[16:15:43] AlexKiriukha: all:
[16:16:04] piranha: превед
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[16:17:12] AlexKiriukha: Спешу воспользоваться тупым вопросом. Какой метод идеологически более правильный в django темплейтах: использовать {% url %} или {{ object.get_absolute_url }} (причём в get_absolute_url сделано через reverse?
[16:18:05] piranha: абсолютно пофигу
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[16:20:15] AlexKiriukha: Вот и хорошо :-)
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[16:20:53] penpen: мне кажется первый вариант более юзер-френдли
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[16:23:28] sevenov: get_absolute_url удобно использовать к примеру при добавлении некой записи, а потом редирект на нее. Т.е. HttpResponseRedirect(instance.get_absolute_url()), а если в шаблонах, то если уж делать с {% url %}, то делать везде, дабы не создавать беспорядок. А вообще, совершенно пофигу )
[16:24:22] AlexKiriukha: Просто сразу неочевидно что лучше использовать. Решил потратить один вопрос и узнать у гуру :-)
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[16:32:28] penpen: Вопрос, где правильней хранить логику отображения полей? в модулях полей (поля могут переодически добавлятся) или в модулях определенных отображений (отображения могут добавлятся)
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[16:33:47] Лис: как сделать urllib.quote на javascript'е?
[16:34:52] renyare: escape?
[16:34:54] AlexKiriukha: escape()
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[16:36:45] renyare: кстати, имхо идеологически правильнее использовать всё таки относительные урлы, а базу прописывать в мета-тегах
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[16:40:25] nmk: народ. какой есть сервис куда я могу залить mp3 и оно мне даст html-код плеера? кромее imeem и boomp3
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[16:42:35] penpen: divshare.com, http://muzicons.com/
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[16:43:46] nmk: спасибо. у меня просто в imeem из линукса mp3 не грузится ;( щас посомтрим что тут
[16:43:51] nmk: о. гуд
[16:44:06] wiz: хочу dict comprehensions в 2.5.... );
[16:44:50] xa4a: wiz: suprocess.Popen('python3 ...') ;)
[16:44:56] wiz: ((8
[16:45:06] red-agent: dict((key, val) for key, val in sequence)
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[16:45:50] wiz: red-agent, к хорошему быстро приывкаешь (=
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[16:49:02] renyare: d = {}; [ d.update(key, val) for (key,val) in sequence ]
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[16:49:44] xa4a: FAIL
[16:50:00] xa4a: а, гм
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[16:50:26] xa4a: nvm
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[16:50:43] xa4a: но лучше таки как агент сказал
[16:50:47] xa4a: ящитаю
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[16:52:19] wiz: по-моему тоже FAIL (=
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[16:52:31] wiz: да ещё с утечкой переменных
[16:52:43] xa4a: wiz: там in-place
[16:52:59] xa4a: так что утекают только None
[16:53:08] wiz: key и val вроде утекут
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[16:54:13] xa4a: а
[16:54:23] xa4a: там ведь должно быть update({key:val})
[16:54:24] wiz: и у d.update синтаксис немного другой (ж
[16:54:26] wiz: во-во
[16:54:27] xa4a: вот этот словарь
[16:54:37] renyare: кстати да
[16:54:50] renyare: d.update({key:val})
[16:55:04] wiz: и таки да, key и val утекают
[16:55:05] xa4a: In [11]: %timeit dict((key, val) for key, val in enumerate(range(1000)))1000 loops, best of 3: 351 µs per loopIn [12]: %timeit d = {}; [ d.update({key: val}) for (key,val) in enumerate(range(1000)) ]1000 loops, best of 3: 1.01 ms per loop
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[16:55:46] wiz: http://dumpz.org/3824/
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[16:56:34] renyare: в 3.0 обещали убрать утечку при list comprehensions
[16:56:37] renyare: ))
[16:56:50] xa4a: утечку имён?
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[16:58:51] renyare: List comprehensions no longer support the syntactic form [... for var in item1, item2, ...]. Use [... for var in (item1, item2, ...)] instead. Also note that list comprehensions have different semantics: they are closer to syntactic sugar for a generator expression inside a list() constructor, and in particular the loop control variables are no longer leaked into the surrounding scope.
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[17:01:30] Лис: ну да
[17:01:32] Лис: утечка имени
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[17:11:32] Лис: бля
[17:11:34] Лис: однако западло
[17:11:50] Лис: treebeard форм то никаких не даёт
[17:12:04] Лис: в админке тупо показывает свои поля
[17:12:17] Лис: который нахер никому не интересны, ибо вычисляются "автомагически"
[17:12:22] Лис: вот гавно :(
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[17:16:16] bergamot: подружил гном с хмонадом, M+f не работает:(
[17:17:54] xa4a: а что должно делать?
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[17:19:15] MAVr: http://www.yaplakal.com/uploads/previews/post-3-12283857674536.jpg
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[17:19:17] bergamot: на весь экран выводить
[17:19:46] bergamot: ))
[17:20:10] bergamot: блин, хотя бы бордеры убрать надо
[17:20:19] xa4a: smartborders
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[17:20:27] bergamot: , layoutHook = ewmhDesktopsLayout $ avoidStruts
$ layoutHook defaultConfig
[17:20:38] bergamot: у меня это прописано сейчас, для гнома
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[17:20:46] xa4a: $ smartBorders
[17:20:50] xa4a: добавь
[17:21:16] xa4a: вероятно, оно связано с import XMonad.Layout.NoBorders
[17:22:47] bergamot: у меня в этом файле уже было smartborders, но как прописать вместе с другими лайаутами? если просто на другой строке прописать $ smartBorders, ругается матом
[17:23:08] bergamot: в этом смысле я синтаксис хаскеля не понимаю
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[17:24:02] bergamot: прописал
[17:24:15] bergamot: надо после avoidStruts было а не в конце
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[17:47:01] gigimon: народ, а подскажите как правильно реализовать проверку введеного пароля с подтверждением пароля (при регистрации) и если неправильно то выводить?
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[17:47:24] gigimon: я вот подумал проверять, и добавлять в form.errors
[17:47:29] gigimon: но удмаю что не правильно как-то
[17:48:31] nmk: gigimon: see django.contrib.auth.forms.UserCreationForm
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[17:48:59] gigimon: опа,еще послали в 1 форму )
[17:49:02] gigimon: nmk: спс,гляну
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[17:57:18] slav0nic: вообще-то вьюшка login есть
[17:57:46] slav0nic: а, при реге можешь гялнуть код django-registration
[17:58:02] gigimon: slav0nic: да вот гляжу, но глаза мои слепы, не вижу я сверку пароля :(
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[17:58:18] gigimon: ща буду третий раз глядеть
[18:00:03] gigimon: а скрестить ModelForm и django.contrib.auth.forms.UserCreationForm я как понимаю можно
[18:00:23] slav0nic: gigimon, в мормах смотри ёпт
[18:00:31] gigimon: мормах?
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[18:00:47] slav0nic: 67 строка
[18:00:52] slav0nic: формах)
[18:01:00] gigimon: а
[18:01:04] gigimon: slav0nic: спс
[18:01:44] slav0nic: заюзал бы django-registration и не изобретал велосипед, лии пересилал бы его если что не так
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[18:03:09] gigimon: slav0nic: хочется самому велосипед, чтоб механизм понять...
[18:03:16] gigimon: slav0nic: я ж не как вы спец ;)
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[18:03:33] slav0nic: можно взять готовое и изучить)
[18:05:29] sevenov: gigimon, взять не очень подходящую для твоих целей и переписать под себя. И механизм поймешь и велосипед не изобретешь ;-)
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[18:05:48] gigimon: ну вполне логично )
[18:05:56] gigimon: посмотрим, может так и сделаю...
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[18:35:30] gigimon: /me глянул исходники django.contrib.auth.forms.UserCreationForm и django-account, въехал в работу их (:
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[18:35:50] sevenov: gigimon, мои поздравления )
[18:35:59] gigimon: :)
[18:36:08] gigimon: сократил код строк на 40 %)
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[19:59:08] sevenov: в джанге есть древовидные группы пользователей?
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[19:59:25] piranha: ты можешь это сделать! (!!!!)
[20:00:30] sevenov: Думал если есть джанговское, зачем писать? ) Тогда уж сделаю сам.
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[20:04:17] xa4a: piranha: а на фирфоксе 3.1b greasemonkey не поднять никак?
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[20:04:23] piranha: ну у меня работает
[20:04:35] piranha: я просто отключил проверку совместимости
[20:04:49] xa4a: а.. точно
[20:05:29] xa4a: nightly tester tools, да?
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[20:07:27] piranha: не
[20:07:31] piranha: я тупо руками отключил
[20:07:41] piranha: нтт не обновляются
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[20:09:29] xa4a: ыэх. google reader preview поломалсо с новым дизайном :\
[20:10:36] piranha: ы?
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[20:12:46] xa4a: ну.. который при нажатии на заголовок не открывает новое окно/табу, а в тут же рисует ифрейм с содержимым
[20:12:53] xa4a: omg >_< http://lethain.com/entry/2008/dec/08/full-text-search-in-couchdb-using-couchdb/
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[20:14:30] piranha: ага
[20:14:32] piranha: дураг
[20:15:18] xa4a: сцуко. строить вью - по n! записей для каждого документа
[20:15:21] xa4a: э
[20:15:22] xa4a: не
[20:15:25] xa4a: 2^n
[20:15:29] Муркт: о_О
[20:15:39] xa4a: если не считать повторов
[20:17:56] Лис is now online
[20:18:13] piranha: та дураг
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[20:21:36] Муркт is now away
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[20:24:24] sintetico is now online
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[20:32:56] Лис is now xa
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[20:33:53] xa4a: хм
[20:34:00] sintetico is now offline
[20:34:18] xa4a: есть записи в базе для какого-то объекта с разными датами. как выбрать запись с максимальной датой?
[20:34:29] sintetico is now online
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[20:35:06] xa4a: .. from table t1, table t2 where t1.date = MAX(t2.date) ... не работает
[20:35:19] xa4a: ERROR: агрегаты не дозволены в WHERE
[20:35:46] Лис is now online
[20:37:52] Лис: что есть древовидные группы пользователей?
[20:38:19] xa4a: Лис: когда группа может содержать другие группы
[20:38:23] red-agent is now away
[20:38:31] Лис: и нахер это надо?
[20:39:58] xa4a: чтобы группу админов кинуть в группу модераторы, группе модераторов дать права модерировать, администраторам - администрировать
[20:40:05] xa4a: ну.. э..
[20:40:08] jedgar is now online
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[20:40:11] xa4a: зачем нужно наследование?
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[20:44:16] xa4a: о, нашёл как запрос написать
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[20:54:33] sintetico is now online
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[21:19:44] wiz is now online
[21:19:44] wiz is now online
[21:19:45] wiz: не, всё ж вы зря на cogen гоните
[21:19:45] sintetico is now offline
[21:19:45] Лис: piranha, скажи, sintetico с гмыла сидел или нет?
[21:19:45] wiz is now offline
[21:19:45] Лис: а виз?
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[21:19:45] sintetico is now online
[21:20:33] wiz is now online
[21:24:44] sintetico is now online
[21:24:56] Лис: /me потыкал палочкой sintetico
[21:25:01] Лис: /me потыкал палочкой wiz
[21:25:15] Лис: вы с гмыла сидите или шо?
[21:25:39] wiz is now online
[21:26:31] sintetico: ага, с гмыла
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[21:28:12] AlexKiriukha is now online
[21:28:52] Лис: на других серваках с каналов народ с гмыла тоже летает
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[21:29:18] piranha: ггг
[21:29:22] piranha: да, оба с гмыла :)
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[21:29:56] Лис: вот вам и гмыло
[21:30:00] Лис: ке ке ке
[21:30:17] piranha: хехе :)
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[21:32:58] xa4a: jabber.ru
[21:33:02] xa4a: э
[21:33:11] xa4a: и аська летает
[21:33:12] xa4a: wtf?
[21:33:38] Муркт is now away
[21:33:40] sevenov: че?
[21:33:46] sevenov: Че это вы все?
[21:34:28] sevenov: хуя сколько летчиков
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[21:37:26] Лис: бугага
[21:37:51] Лис: теперь каждый кого переконектило, по возвращению будет как пороль говорить сервер с которого заходит %(
[21:37:56] Лис: %)
[21:37:58] wiz is now offline
[21:38:44] sevenov: Лис, ?
[21:40:11] Лис: что, не понял?
[21:40:33] Лис: гони айфон, пацанчег, я тебе объясню ;)
[21:40:38] wiz is now online
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[21:42:05] sevenov: Лис, у гопоты теперь моден айфон? Гламурный гоп? ггг ))
[21:44:32] Лис: ты какой то невтемный ваще
[21:44:39] Лис: поддержать даже не смог
[21:45:02] sevenov: да я занят немного, а что происходит знать интересно
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[22:06:47] PC is now online
[22:08:31] red-agent is now online
[22:09:12] Лис: гугель ватрыжыт
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[22:34:21] wiz: блеятьёбанарот!
[22:34:39] Муркт: шотакое?
[22:34:40] wiz: /me провернул пару раз на GUI всю эту новую документацию по джанге
[22:34:48] Муркт: :D
[22:34:52] wiz: хер что найдёшь теперь
[22:35:18] Муркт: google://anything you want site:docs.djangoproject.com
[22:35:24] wiz: дык раньше фигак "django python db api" - первая же ссылка. а сейчас чёрти что
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[22:36:03] sevenov: охрененно звучит фраза "жопа в деревьях отпадает" :D
[22:36:16] Муркт: та да, неплохо
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[22:39:59] piranha: хз
[22:40:06] piranha: я сча легко по доке нахожу всё
[22:40:15] piranha: а ещё клёво, что я её локально сбилдил и легко могу смотреть
[22:40:50] wiz is now online
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[22:44:00] Decoy is now Big brother watches you!..
[22:44:01] Decoy is now Big brother watches you!..
[22:44:04] Decoy is now dnd
[22:44:05] Decoy is now dnd
[22:44:11] Decoy: Добрый вечер!
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[22:47:08] Муркт: добрый
[22:48:13] PC is now away
[22:48:18] sevenov: добрый?
[22:49:49] Decoy is now dnd
[22:50:45] xa4a: добрый!
[22:50:53] wiz is now online
[22:51:00] piranha: жестокий!
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[22:52:37] sevenov: информативно
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[22:57:51] xa4a: где в виме настривается какие символы перескакивает w ?
[22:58:13] PC is now xa
[22:59:49] Decoy is now dnd
[23:00:16] piranha: о, а где в консоли это настраивается, никто не знает?
[23:00:54] wiz is now online
[23:01:01] Decoy: Скажите, пожалуйста, как посылать в gtk.TextBuffer перевод строки?
[23:03:11] PC is now online
[23:03:52] Лис is now online
[23:04:41] Decoy: Извините, плуганул. %)
[23:04:49] Decoy is now dnd
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[23:08:31] Decoy: =)
[23:09:49] Decoy is now dnd
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[23:13:42] Лис: видали чо sorl пишет?
http://blog.sorl.net/translations-made-easy/
[23:14:51] Decoy is now xa
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[23:17:23] piranha: тьфу
[23:17:31] piranha: и потом сегз
[23:18:13] PC is now xa
[23:18:32] red-agent is now online
[23:18:35] Лис: агаг
[23:18:51] Лис: я камент накатал
[23:19:22] Лис: но он сцуко, waiting for moderation
[23:19:33] Лис: ох чуствую не пройдёт мой камент эту стадию ;)
[23:19:51] Decoy is now xa
[23:20:59] wiz is now online
[23:22:32] Лис: гы
[23:22:38] Лис: вот сорл дурында
[23:22:38] piranha: а какой коммент? :)
[23:22:42] Лис: Proudly powered by WordPress
[23:23:13] PC is now offline
[23:23:16] Лис: piranha, очень неудобный %)
я просил шо будет если поитерировать Text QS
[23:23:28] Лис: и при этом получать переводы
[23:23:33] Лис: а ведь именно это и надо будет
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[23:23:36] Лис: 100%
[23:23:52] Лис: ну понятно шо будет, будет по запросу, на каждый элемент QS-а %)
[23:23:59] Лис: дико тупо
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[23:24:11] piranha: =)
[23:24:16] piranha: ну дык да
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[23:37:18] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
[23:37:27] Лис: но тема интересная
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[23:55:23] slav0nic: http://mikewatkins.ca/2008/11/29/python-2-and-3-metaclasses/
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