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[00:01:42] Александp: ОК
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[00:01:48] Александp: спасибо!
[00:02:18] samyray: Здравствуйте!
Подскажите,для того чтобы моя программа на питоне могла проигрывать музыку на питоне(при этом сама программа должна продолжить работу),мне необходимо использовать распараллеливание?
[00:02:43] Александp: я уже пробовал конструкцию ~* ^ но она видимо в отличии от твоеё оказалсь неправильной регуляркой и не сработала
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[00:03:53] xa4a: samyray: не обязательно
[00:04:04] xa4a: тоесть э
[00:04:07] samyray: А не подскажите как?
[00:04:14] xa4a: если продолжить работу параллельно с музыкой, то нужно
[00:04:32] xa4a: если продолжить после музыки - то не обязательно
[00:05:26] samyray: Ну задача состоит в том,что пока проигрываться звук программа должна продолжать работать!
Тоесть нужно?
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[00:05:38] xa4a: да
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[00:05:53] xa4a: вероятно модуль, проигрівающий звук в состоянии єто реализовать за тебя
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[00:07:00] piranha: Александp: пжалста :)
[00:07:13] piranha: Александp: у меня не регулярка, там в доках написано :)
[00:07:29] samyray: xa4a: Ну я использую pymad,только так и не смог найти внятной документации по нему(
Только парочка хиленьких примерчиков,и один нечитабельный код с левого ресурса...поэтому и подумывал шоб заняться его работой)
[00:07:35] Александp: piranha, ну я и говорю
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[00:09:57] xa4a: samyray: http://spacepants.org/src/pymad/ тут, вроде, вся документация?
[00:10:42] samyray: xa4a:Да,то всё что я нашел,согласить то маловато)
[00:10:53] samyray: *согласись

[00:10:54] xa4a: а чего не хватает?
[00:11:09] xa4a: там написано как проиграть файл
[00:11:23] samyray: xa4a:Ну хотя бы в примере оно запускает звук,а как его приостановить?
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[00:12:54] xa4a: samyray: смотрел исходники?
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[00:13:07] xa4a: обычно, когда такая документация, то можно найти много полезного в них
[00:13:11] xa4a: там.. доктесты разные
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[00:14:19] samyray: xa4a:Ну я ставил тока с репозитория скомиленный модуль,в исходники пока не заглядывал,надеялся что обойдеться без этого)
[00:15:08] xa4a: не могу ничего сказать
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[00:15:51] samyray: Ну и на этом спасибо)
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[00:18:37] piranha: http://keep4u.ru/imgs/b/081219/e6/e63f2c272452db6a5b.jpg
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[00:30:22] gigimon: piranha: следишь за похождениями кота?)
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[00:31:03] piranha: слежу :)
[00:32:12] xa4a: piranha: http://xa4a.org.ua/k.jpg
[00:33:04] piranha: xa4a: боян
[00:33:06] piranha: :)
[00:33:10] piranha: это одна из первых
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[00:57:27] AlexKiriukha: Опять тупой вопрос по djano :-(
[00:57:32] AlexKiriukha: *django
[00:57:43] Лис: фыв
[00:57:45] AlexKiriukha: Как использовать декоратор с generic view?
[00:57:52] Лис: никак
[00:57:58] AlexKiriukha: Спасибо :-D
[00:58:00] piranha: decorator(generic_view)
[00:58:16] AlexKiriukha: Мнения разделились
[00:58:20] AlexKiriukha: Тоже спасибо
[00:58:28] Лис: шо то гаджим заело
[00:58:29] AlexKiriukha: А вообще-то логично :-D
[00:58:41] Лис: вообще конечно piranha +1
[00:58:42] Лис: я так
[00:58:46] Лис: на отмашь сказал
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[00:58:51] Лис: что бы проверить что гаджим работает
[00:59:03] AlexKiriukha: А я поверил
[00:59:07] AlexKiriukha: Лис - хитрый
[00:59:09] AlexKiriukha: Вот
[00:59:13] Лис: лма0 %)
[00:59:19] Лис: ктож лисам верит;)
[00:59:25] piranha: он Большой
[01:00:05] AlexKiriukha: Лисам верят колобки, я помню
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[01:00:23] Лис: и при этом колобки плохо заканчивают
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[01:00:30] slav0nic: писец, на сайте стб снизу ссылка на http://www.qtv.com.ua %)
[01:00:36] piranha: бля
[01:00:51] piranha: когда долбаная джанга научится не делать один и тот же запрос 2 раза подряд?
[01:01:04] AlexKiriukha: А версия для Ъ? :-)
[01:01:23] piranha: версия чего? )
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[01:02:13] AlexKiriukha: Что по ссылке :)
[01:03:01] slav0nic: piranha, когда эт она 2 делает?
[01:03:44] slav0nic: AlexKiriukha, куйтв по ссылке
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[01:04:09] piranha: slav0nic: когда ты делаешь print User.objects.get(username='piranha') два раза, она два раза лезет в базу
[01:04:14] piranha: моржовая скотина
[01:04:17] AlexKiriukha: slav0nic: спасибо, нарушил табу и сходил. Весело.
[01:04:41] AlexKiriukha: piranha: поправь и закоммить ;)
[01:04:54] slav0nic: да)
[01:05:01] slav0nic: меня такой подход кумарит)
[01:05:06] piranha: AlexKiriukha: шутить все могут
[01:05:10] piranha: slav0nic: просто заебало
[01:05:21] slav0nic: помню чиж запостил что доки по камментовому фреймворку гавно - ему предложили их написать)
[01:05:37] piranha: slav0nic: ты пул для sqla заюзал - оно убирает джанговский орм или нет?
[01:05:49] slav0nic: не, я тока коннект в базу
[01:05:50] piranha: если нет, то я блять уже готов морально смотреть внимательно в его сторону
[01:05:52] piranha: эээ
[01:05:54] slav0nic: апликуха так не течёт
[01:06:02] piranha: ну т.е. орм можно юзать?
[01:06:07] piranha: ты мне ответь прямо :)
[01:06:17] AlexKiriukha: piranha: а что? Это ж open source ;-)
[01:06:18] slav0nic: ну орм дджанговский остаётся но коннекты постоянные к базе висят
[01:06:21] slav0nic: пул как пул)
[01:06:23] piranha: ОФИГЕННО
[01:06:29] piranha: slav0nic: ссылку дай ещё раз? )
[01:06:32] slav0nic: тока для mysql
[01:06:35] piranha: сука
[01:06:41] piranha: шо значит тока для мускул?
[01:06:45] piranha: ты в своём уме? )
[01:06:51] piranha: лана, давай сюда, буду под постгрес точить )
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[01:06:58] slav0nic: http://node.to/wordpress/2008/09/30/another-database-connection-pool-solution-for-django-mysql/
[01:07:19] piranha: а что там django-sqlalchemy?
[01:07:21] slav0nic: ну есть заметки в блоге как сделать бекенд) с пулом, но у меня не вышло, sqlalchemy ошибку кидало и я забил
[01:07:27] piranha: slav0nic: новости есть какие?
[01:07:57] slav0nic: http://menendez.com/blog/mysql-connection-pooling-django-and-sqlalchemy/
[01:08:15] piranha: http://gitorious.org/projects/django-sqlalchemy/repos/mainline/logs/master

не очень много, однако...
[01:08:16] slav0nic: по вервой ссылке модулем а не бекендом
[01:08:23] piranha: понял
[01:08:26] piranha: ну раздуплюсь завтра :)
[01:08:27] slav0nic: та да
[01:08:36] piranha: кстати
[01:08:45] piranha: slav0nic: а скла не держит в кеше эти объекты? )
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[01:09:13] slav0nic: хз вроде нет
но когда тестишь из консоли то вроде ж всё кешируется, 2 одинаковых запроса должны кешится
[01:09:33] piranha: та должны сцука
[01:09:39] piranha: ну в смысле по логике вещей
[01:09:45] piranha: а не по тому, что есть на самом бля деле
[01:09:47] piranha: ублюдки
[01:09:48] slav0nic: дейва помучай, он ковырял орм)
[01:09:53] piranha: ага
[01:09:56] piranha: прикол, кстати
[01:10:01] slav0nic: ну я помню когда игрался - кешило всё
[01:10:08] piranha: у меня внизу щас висит дебаг, типа показывает, сколько запросов
[01:10:19] piranha: я сегодня сделал етеги, чтоб 304 возвращало по необходимости :)
[01:10:28] piranha: и там висит 16 запросов, как я не бьюсь
[01:10:37] piranha: нажал Ctrl-f5, стало 6
[01:10:39] piranha: ))))
[01:11:20] slav0nic: )
[01:11:42] piranha: так ты django-sqlalchemy щупал ваще?
[01:11:44] slav0nic: кстати по пулам ещё в траке погоняй, там вроде были патчи
[01:11:52] slav0nic: не, он сырым показался)
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[01:12:38] piranha: мне патчи не катят щас :(
[01:12:41] piranha: хотя...
[01:12:45] piranha: посмотрим :)
[01:13:20] xa4a: PyQt4 сцуко тупой
[01:13:42] piranha: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/5149e1c60dc65bff/a177bb34cfde1ec7
[01:13:47] AlexKiriukha: Попробуй pygtk
[01:13:48] piranha: а как всё хорошо начиналось...
[01:13:52] piranha: бай-бай, учаснеги, я спать
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[01:13:54] xa4a: имеет проблемы некоторые с хранением ссылок и гарбедж коллектингом
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[01:16:14] xa4a: AlexKiriukha: мне курсач завтра сдавать, уже написано на куте около 4к строк
[01:16:39] xa4a: я не думаю, что на гтк такое можно написать с таким кол-вом строк
[01:17:07] xa4a: в основном работал model/view фреймворк, который из БД дйргал таблички, рисовал в таблички
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[09:37:41] gigimon: /me еще раз убедился в тупости военных
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[09:50:51] Gagarin_Today: можно в шаблонах как-нибудь использовать опреаторы сравнения?
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[09:56:15] Gagarin_Today: не ifequal а что-то типа {% if m > 1 %}
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[10:04:06] gigimon: стандартно нет вроде
[10:04:20] gigimon: напишите свой тег )
[10:04:39] Gagarin_Today: попробую)
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[10:06:38] sevenov: Gagarin_Today, напиши и поделись :) Типа {% ifgte val1 val2 %}
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[10:11:15] sevenov: Gagarin_Today, берешь тег ifequal из django/template/defaulttags и меняешь одну строку с нцжным условием. Все, твой готов.
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[10:14:19] piranha: sevenov: pyif на djangosnippets
[10:14:31] piranha: и не надо больше писать всякой фигни
[10:14:35] piranha: Gagarin_Today: ^ тебе тож
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[10:18:45] sevenov: piranha, хуя. Это еще 2007 год. Я пару месяцев назад спрашивал об этом же, что-то никто не сказал ;))
[10:19:01] piranha: я пользуюсь pyif
[10:19:34] sevenov: а я свое писал. :-/
[10:19:41] piranha: '[ ns
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[10:19:45] piranha: гуглить не умеешь :)
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[10:20:24] sevenov: Гг. Название какое-то не говорящее )
[10:21:12] piranha: да ты охренел )
[10:21:31] piranha: я как-то легко нашёл )
[10:22:11] sevenov: piranha, ну я в яндексе не искал ;-)
[10:22:13] sevenov: :D
[10:22:15] piranha: ну и я тоже
[10:22:20] piranha: я по джангосниппетам искал
[10:22:23] piranha: :Р
[10:22:33] sevenov: сцук :)
[10:22:55] sevenov: а чо, там поиск есть? я както гуглом по нему :)
[10:23:05] piranha: я тоже гуглом по нему :Р
[10:23:09] piranha: ну и ещё там теги есть
[10:23:12] piranha: :Р:Р:Р
[10:23:34] sevenov: А я. А я... а я щас кааак всем пизды дам :D
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[11:26:10] slav0nic: http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3444
ух, наркоманы в огородi ))
[11:27:31] piranha:
>>> class A(object): pass
...
>>> class B(A): pass
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>>> A.__subclasses__()
[<class '__main__.B'>]

офигеть, не знал
[11:29:34] piranha: slav0nic: просто жесть
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[13:08:53] wiz: да пох. главное чтобы перед иконой ея
[13:09:31] Svoloch: тоесть есчё и картинку надо показывать....
[13:09:59] wiz: не, используя сей чудный API оно само перед картинкой зачитает
[13:10:04] Svoloch: /me представил бота - попА
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[13:25:49] Gagarin_Today: люди, подскажите...
[13:26:50] Gagarin_Today: при выборке из БД значения приходят в кавычках и из-за них я не могу проверить вхождения одного списка в другой
[13:27:57] Gagarin_Today: от них можно избавиться?
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[16:06:27] Александp: подскажите какие-нибудь продвинутые шелы для винды
idle не устраивает
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[16:10:16] jedgar: Александp: wingIDE, e, eric python ide
[16:10:46] Лис: Александp, ipython запущеный внутри console
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[16:11:06] piranha: работает ipython
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[16:17:42] Александp: в том что он запускается в виндовой консоли - , она сама через жопу сделана...
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[16:28:37] Лис: Александp, яж тебе говорю, запуски в console
[16:28:41] Лис: это замена cmd
[16:29:36] Лис: http://sourceforge.net/projects/console
[16:30:09] Александp: а, я не так понял
[16:30:12] Александp: сейчас гляну
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[16:34:59] Александp: Лис: спасибо, действительно лучший вариант
[16:35:20] Александp: решил и ещё одну проблему, нормальную замену cmd
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[16:37:44] red-agent: а нормальную ось поставить - не судьба?
[16:37:58] Александp: red-agent: какую например?
[16:38:15] red-agent: linux например
[16:38:21] red-agent: bsd-like
[16:38:26] Александp: red-agent: у меня есть linux
[16:38:36] red-agent: да я вижу =)
[16:38:38] Александp: red-agent: я им активно пользуюсь
[16:38:55] red-agent: зачем тогда мозгоебить с cmd и т.п.?
[16:39:04] Александp: но есть необходимость иногда работать в винде
[16:40:14] Александp: red-agent: мне нужен autocad и ещё некоторые софтины, который хуевато запускать под вайном, причём у некоторых альтернатив нет насколько я знаю
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[16:41:04] red-agent: ну заведи себе vbox.
[16:41:20] Александp: virtualbox?
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[16:41:48] red-agent: угу.
[16:41:49] Александp: тоже есть, но опять же есть проблемы
[16:44:11] red-agent: понятно, плохому танцорчегу...
[16:45:38] Александp: red-agent: это для меня наиболее удобный вариант, поэтому и выбрал
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[17:05:20] A2K: red-agent, autocad использует 3д
[17:05:25] A2K: которое вбокс еще не осилило
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[17:05:58] AlexKiriukha: Кстати, в новом добавили экспериментальную поддержку opengl, но что-то не пойму как проверить
[17:06:30] A2K: запусти ку3 в виртуалбоксе
[17:07:12] Александp: A2K: запускается, но есть заметные подтормаживания
[17:07:15] AlexKiriukha: нужно будет выкачать опробовать
[17:07:26] A2K: Александp, ну еще бы, рендеринг софтверный включается
[17:08:17] A2K: AlexKiriukha, оно пока что для игрушек не годится
[17:08:43] A2K: подобные решения около года назад были, если не ошибаюсь, для qemu в виде патча
[17:09:20] AlexKiriukha: A2K: не пробовал, не знаю
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[18:57:36] faradey: подскажите естли ли аналог "указателей" в питоне
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[19:01:22] A2K: faradey, ты уверен что ты на самом деле хочешь указатели?
[19:01:52] xa4a: если да, то зачем?
[19:01:53] faradey: опишу что хочу, может быть они мне нах и не нужны
[19:02:00] A2K: опиши
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[19:04:55] faradey: хочу передавать в конструктор класса буфер с которым производится работа, но не хочу чтобы этото буфер копировался при передаче в класс
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[19:07:03] xa4a: копируются только нескользко базовых типов
[19:07:10] xa4a: всё остальное передаётся всегда по ссылке
[19:07:29] xa4a: если передашь объект с членом-буфером, то будет как тебе надо
[19:09:40] faradey: спасибо
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