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[01:32:20] sevenov: A2K, ты далбоеб
[01:32:26] sevenov: *долбоеб
[01:32:29] sevenov: эээ
[01:32:37] sevenov: да
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[01:53:17] gigimon: 0_0
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[01:54:40] sevenov: gigimon, ?
[01:54:53] sevenov: gigimon, не согласен?
[01:55:20] gigimon: буду нейтрален)
[01:55:44] gigimon: /me смотрит тупые мультики и состоит в клубе любителей тупых мультиков
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[01:57:25] sevenov: gigimon, правильно делаешь
[01:57:35] sevenov: с этим кретином лучше не связываться
[01:57:41] gigimon: че он сделал?
[01:57:47] sevenov: gigimon, родился
[01:58:02] sevenov: а, блин
[01:58:11] sevenov: смайлы забываю вставлять )
[01:58:26] gigimon: гг
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[01:59:03] sevenov: gigimon, вот только смайлы не отменяют то, что он кретин ;-)
[01:59:28] gigimon: хорошие у вас с ним отношения :)
[01:59:41] sevenov: gigimon, ну дык )
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[02:03:26] sevenov: ппц. Яндекс охерел. Даже гугл email отдает. В общем, google, yahoo, myipenid и пр. отдают данные на ура, а яндекс выебывается. Я зол
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[02:03:47] gigimon: мделай его
[02:04:35] sevenov: я грешу на python-openid. И 2.1.2, и 2.2.1 и trunk - результат один
[02:05:20] sevenov: хотя, лориен сказал, что зарабоало, как только он положил openid в джанго-проект. Магия.
[02:06:00] sevenov: агррррррхх!
[02:06:37] sevenov: написать чтоль свою реализацию openid...
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[02:11:25] gigimon: sevenov, скажи мне, как узнать путь где лежит скрипт?
[02:12:19] sevenov: os.path.dirname(__file__)
[02:12:25] sevenov: *os.path.normpath(os.path.dirname(__file__))
[02:12:46] gigimon: cgc
[02:12:47] gigimon: спс
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[02:14:28] sevenov: бля. Нг что-то затянулся..
[02:14:29] sevenov: .
[02:14:54] gigimon: тада
[02:15:24] sevenov: а я все пью и пью...
[02:15:30] gigimon: бывает)
[02:15:35] sevenov: а ведь несколько месяцев не пил
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[03:00:18] gigimon: эм
[03:00:27] gigimon: а джанга нормально относится к русскому в пути?
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[03:33:21] gigimon: sevenov, не спишь еще?)
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[04:32:05] sevenov: gigimon, не, тока с магаза пришол. Еще бухла закупились :)
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[04:54:32] sevenov: блин, у меня народ тусит с 29 декабря. Народ один, а люди разные ^_^"
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[08:58:48] imbolc: Всем привет :)

Кто-нибудь с mod_wsgi в демон-режиме работал? При первой загрузке вылазит 500 ошибка. И затем она проскальзывает. Видимо, изза перезагрузки по maximum-requests. Это можно как-то побороть?
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[09:07:16] Лис is now online
[09:08:07] Лис: imbolc, включи DEBUG = True
[09:08:08] Лис: и покажи traceback
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[09:08:18] Лис: утра кстате :)
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[09:11:37] imbolc: А нету трейсбека. Не джанговская страничка отображается. Обычная:
Internal Server ErrorThe server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Сейчас в логах гляну.
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[09:13:45] imbolc: [Fri Jan 09 08:09:17 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-8+etch13 mod_ssl/2.2.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_wsgi/2.3 Python/2.5.2 configured -- resuming normal operations[Fri Jan 09 10:09:18 2009] [error] [client 195.222.190.81] mod_wsgi (pid=24416): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/imbolc/!coding/kwds/django.wsgi'.[Fri Jan 09 10:09:18 2009] [error] [client 195.222.190.81] Traceback (most recent call last):[Fri Jan 09 10:09:18 2009] [error] [client 195.222.190.81] File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/django/core/handlers/wsgi.py", line 228, in __call__[Fri Jan 09 10:09:18 2009] [error] [client 195.222.190.81] self.load_middleware()[Fri Jan 09 10:09:18 2009] [error] [client 195.222.190.81] File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 40, in load_middleware[Fri Jan 09 10:09:18 2009] [error] [client 195.222.190.81] raise exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured, 'Error importing middleware %s: "%s"' % (mw_module, e)
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[09:14:48] Лис: imbolc, ещё вопросы есть? :)
[09:14:59] imbolc: Да, я лох :)
[09:15:12] imbolc: Всмысле, вопросы есть.
[09:15:56] imbolc: Я рефрешу страничку и всё работает. Вплоть до перезагрузки демона по реквестам.
[09:16:48] Лис: imbolc, проверь свои кастомные мидлвари
[09:16:51] Лис: с кем то из них совсем плохо
[09:17:40] Лис: после первой загрузки, одна из них вылетает, и больше её уже не пытаются грузить (но она и не работает соответственно)
[09:18:03] imbolc: Ясно. Премного благодарен!
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[10:46:38] Лис: «Могущество России может быть подорвано только отделением от неё Украины… необходимо не только оторвать, но и противопоставить Украину России, стравить две части единого народа и наблюдать, как брат будет убивать брата. Для этого нужно только найти и взрастить предателей среди национальной элиты и с их помощью изменить самосознание одной части великого народа до такой степени, что он будет ненавидеть всё русское, ненавидеть свой род, не осознавая этого. Всё остальное — дело времени». ОТТО ФОН БИСМАРК
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[10:47:05] Лис: ты сматри, ловкий парень был :)
[10:47:11] slav0nic: классика)
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[10:54:09] lic: Дня доброго )
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[10:56:49] lic: вот думаю спросить я, а можно ли написать демона на питоне под win32 для того что б считать интерент трафик ? если кто знает, прошу направить на путь истинный :)
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[11:01:59] slav0nic: можно
про демонов google://py2exe + win32 service
по трафику хз или обёртки на pcap или scapy но хз как с ним под виндой
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[11:02:13] slav0nic: +была либа от автора dsniff
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[14:47:53] Хрюндель (джангист): Кто поможет придумать название для аппы.. Значит там будет модель Activity и Report
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[14:56:40] xa4a: суть такова. можно активити, репорты и злодеи. если выбирать репорты, то активити набигают. можно грабить корованы
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[15:00:01] tilarids: Хрюндель (джангист): AP_app
[15:00:09] tilarids: точнее, AR_app
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[15:05:46] tilarids: капец. Решил посидеть немного в конфе c_plus_plus@j.c.r, всё-таки родной язык. У меня такое впечатление, что в той конфе С/С++ знают хуже, чем в этой
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[15:07:47] Portnov: sorry for my terrible english... but my native language is Perl...
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[15:09:36] Лис: ^)
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[15:11:16] penpen: есть ли смысл 2.6 использовать? как у него со скоростью по сравнению с 2.5?
[15:11:55] Хрюндель (джангист): я бы спросил наоборот.. есть ли смысл использовать 2.5
[15:12:12] penpen: ну, он не во всех репозиториях есть
[15:12:23] penpen: 2.5 стабилен, надежен, етц.
[15:12:32] Хрюндель (джангист): писать то уже надо по 3k'ки, а либами пользоваться старыми можно
[15:12:49] penpen: 3к стейбл?
[15:13:12] Хрюндель (джангист): penpen, дебианщик?
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[15:13:26] penpen: ага
[15:13:36] sevenov: tilarids, здесь по моему вообще самый бошковитый народ, по сравнению с другими конфами
[15:13:37] penpen: а что, так видно?
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[15:13:50] Хрюндель (джангист): penpen, ыыы.. да вы что то дебианщики заморочены на стейблах
[15:14:11] Хрюндель (джангист): sevenov, спасибо за комплимент
[15:14:12] penpen: ну, мне чтобы поставить 2.6 придется собирать пакет
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[15:14:27] penpen: ибо его даже в сиде нет
[15:14:50] Хрюндель (джангист): penpen, в Arch по дефолту вроде 2.6 уже.. по крайней мере вчера он мне сам его установил
[15:15:11] sevenov: Хрюндель (джангист), а это не комплимент
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[15:15:20] Хрюндель (джангист): sevenov, констатация фактов?
[15:15:30] sevenov: угу
[15:15:48] sevenov: но и кретины есть
[15:15:55] sevenov: да ведь, A2K? ;-)
[15:15:58] Хрюндель (джангист): sevenov, ну вообще согласен.. хотя я только в двух конфах сидел.. linuxforum и тут
[15:16:08] Хрюндель (джангист): здесь у людей с юмором получше
[15:16:31] nuclear90: черт,если я выйду кретинов не будет =)
[15:17:26] sevenov: nuclear90, да ладно? A2K вообще не выходит :D
[15:17:32] nuclear90: =))
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[15:17:54] sevenov: Хрюндель (джангист), точно
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[15:18:29] Хрюндель (джангист): Один арчер признался, второго обвиняют.. Я пока арчем только в virtualbox пользуюсь, так что я не в счёт ))
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[15:21:07] tilarids: sevenov: согласен. Русскоязычных конф получше я не встречал
[15:21:22] Хрюндель (джангист): xa4a, новый год прошёл, а ты всё не протрезвеешь.. я серьёзно насчёт имени аппы спросил.. второй день придумать не могу
[15:22:03] red-agent: Хрюндель (джангист), что твоя аппликуха делает, еврейко?
[15:22:26] Хрюндель (джангист): red-agent, на одноклассниках или фейсбуке ленту активности видел?
[15:22:30] Хрюндель (джангист): red-agent, вот тоже самое
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[15:23:05] red-agent: кгм.
[15:23:20] red-agent: Хрюндель (джангист), как ты думаешь, я видел на одноклассниках и фейсбуке ленту активности?
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[15:23:26] Хрюндель (джангист): red-agent, ты нет
[15:23:39] red-agent: ну вот обьясни, что за лента
[15:23:40] tilarids: Хрюндель (джангист): это history называется
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[15:23:56] xa4a: и в джанге есть встроенная
[15:24:09] tilarids: red-agent: в админке справа - Последние действия
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[15:24:31] tilarids: тоже самое, только для кучи друзей из одноклассников
[15:24:39] xa4a: и с картинками
[15:24:39] red-agent: а, Activity Log
[15:25:16] Хрюндель (джангист): tilarids, ну хистори можно назвать.. но тогда репорты не влезут.. вот если какой то действие совершилось, людям присылается репорт, например кто то подтвердил запрос взять его в друзья, тебе приходит репорт мол Вася согласился быть твоим другом
[15:25:36] red-agent: activity_log
[15:25:55] tilarids: просто activities
[15:27:04] Хрюндель (джангист): вот мне тоже всё activity лезет в голову, но путаница будет.. но если других вариантов нет то придётся назвать одним из activity* вариантов
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[15:29:07] slav0nic: никто с HTMLParser не мучался?)
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[15:30:34] slav0nic: о, пришёл)
[15:30:37] piranha: ffff rfqa
[15:30:44] piranha: интернет - щастье
[15:30:51] slav0nic: )
[15:31:43] Лис: гг
[15:32:01] Хрюндель (джангист): piranha, а газ? газ, счастье?
[15:32:11] piranha: а газ заебиз :Р
[15:32:16] piranha: у нас есть газ ;)
[15:32:22] Хрюндель (джангист): у нас тоже
[15:32:28] Хрюндель (джангист): а европа сосёт ))
[15:32:31] slav0nic: решил маленький сусочек кода с BeautifulSoup на HTMLParser переписать%) уже заманался
[15:32:34] piranha: у нас же для людей юзаеццо свой газ, а не российский ;)
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[15:32:58] Лис: piranha, сами напердели что ли?
[15:33:04] Лис: :D
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[15:33:25] Лис: или типо украина свой газ добывает?
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[15:33:49] tilarids: Лис: добывает
[15:33:59] tilarids: прикинь
[15:34:15] Хрюндель (джангист): а два миллиарда тогда за что задолжали?
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[15:34:16] red-agent: Российский идет в основном на пром. комплекс.
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[15:34:42] piranha: Лис: ну да
[15:34:53] mishok13: http://eigenclass.org/R2/writings/standalone-ocaml-webapps
[15:34:55] piranha: Хрюндель (джангист): вообще есть мнение, что никто никому не задолжал ;)
[15:35:14] tilarids: Хрюндель (джангист): наш дороже получается. У нас же его мало, плюс бюрократия развитей, карманов больше, а газа - меньше. Европа!
[15:35:25] red-agent: это саботаж чистой воды, со стороны России.
[15:35:39] red-agent: попытка дискредитации.
[15:35:49] Лис: попытка?
[15:36:04] Лис: это не попытка, это успешная реализация
[15:36:22] Лис: теперь на украинский нефтегаз сыпятся лучи ненависти
[15:36:25] piranha: у нас бюрократия развитей, чем у России? Сомневаюсь
[15:36:30] piranha: стопудово, очень успешная
[15:37:08] mishok13: танков бояться -- в лес не ходить
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[15:37:10] tilarids: piranha: в условиях, когда красть нечего, у нас очень успешная бюрократия. Всё находит и находит
[15:37:50] red-agent: Лис, а кто виноват? если люди не могут понять, что не бывает такого, чтоб на одном конце газо-транспортной системы подали 1 единицу газа и на другой получили её же. У любой ГТС есть накладные расходы и довольно не маленькие
[15:38:07] piranha: tilarids: :) я имел в виду, что у них тоже отличная :)
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[15:38:35] Лис: да пох, всё равно все скоро умрём
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[15:38:47] Лис: в ядерной вспышке
[15:38:48] Лис: хехе
[15:39:07] xa4a: в чёрной дыре
[15:39:09] piranha: БАК? :)
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[15:39:25] red-agent: ба-БАК!
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[15:50:57] tilarids: БАК взорвался еще тогда, при запуске. Это мы сейчас агонизируем
[15:51:56] Typhon: http://compromat.ru/main/mix1/image/2009.jpg
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[15:57:20] red-agent: tilarids, лолшто? у него просто гелий вытек.
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[15:57:57] tilarids: red-agent: ты тоже агонизируешь. Не сопротивляйся, расслабься и агонизируй вместе с нами :)
[15:58:19] red-agent: 8\
[15:58:20] Патриот is now online
[15:58:30] tilarids: /me меняет своё мнение по поводу конфы c_plus_plus. Это конфа для лулзов
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[15:59:24] tilarids: http://dumpz.org/4682/ - зацените
[16:00:57] red-agent: шо это за наркоманство?
[16:01:18] Typhon: обычная лаба первокурсника, например
[16:01:22] tilarids: это лулзы из c_plus_plus конфы
[16:01:36] tilarids: там уже больше часа делают эту лабу
[16:01:46] red-agent: ибанутые.
[16:01:51] tilarids: именно
[16:02:20] tilarids: но зато смешно
[16:02:32] red-agent: да нихуя это не смешно.
[16:02:34] red-agent: это просто тупо.
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[16:03:07] tilarids: red-agent: относись к этому с юмором
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[16:09:59] mishok13: Han1JlbH1kOB
[16:10:09] mishok13: хочу себе такую фамилию
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[16:13:41] Лис: шоб глаза ломали. когда читают?
[16:14:21] sintetico is now online
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[16:15:57] mishok13: да
[16:17:40] Лис: гмгм
[16:17:52] red-agent: whitix уже зотестели?
[16:17:57] Лис: а как в markdown-е делаются вложенные списки?
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[16:19:03] piranha: * щит
- нах
[16:19:51] red-agent: брр, код жутко уебищен.
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[16:38:40] piranha: http://news.liga.net/news/N0900605.html
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[16:43:09] Лис: отож пиздец будет, если правда
[16:43:15] piranha: та да
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[16:43:17] piranha: :\
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[18:01:01] penpen: tilarids: твистед конечно хорош, и в нем много правильных идей, но архитектура слишком долбанутая. буду переписывать судя по всему.
[18:01:05] samyray is now away
[18:01:06] samyray is now away
[18:02:29] mishok13: переписывать твистед?
[18:02:34] penpen: ага
[18:02:43] gigimon: силен
[18:02:44] mishok13: ы
[18:02:45] mishok13: ыыыы
[18:02:47] mishok13: ыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыы
[18:02:51] gigimon: penpen, форк?
[18:02:54] tilarids: penpen: удачи
[18:02:59] gigimon: гг
[18:03:07] mishok13: /me падает и бьется в конвульсии от смеха
[18:03:08] penpen: ибо Win32Reactor наследуемый от PosixReactorBase меня слишком смущает.
[18:03:22] penpen: gigimon: с нуля, немного поглядывая на твистед
[18:03:32] wiz is now xa
[18:03:35] gigimon: понятно
[18:03:36] penpen: mishok13: там кода на самом деле мало, и он довольно простой
[18:03:37] Патриот is now online
[18:04:14] mishok13: asyncore, да?
[18:04:33] penpen: асинкор слишком не удобен
[18:04:48] penpen: и малофункционален
[18:04:53] sintetico is now online
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[18:05:16] mishok13: про кода немного это ты конечно исполняешь
[18:05:45] penpen: ну относительно мало
[18:05:47] mishok13: посоветуйся сначала с glyph или exarkun на фриноде, перед тем как писать аналог твистеда
[18:06:02] mishok13: они тебе укажут на грабли, на которые ты обязательно наступишь
[18:06:09] mishok13: в остальном -- попутного ветра
[18:06:28] penpen: граблей быть особо не должно, ибо на твистед я все же смотрю.
[18:06:43] samyray is now offline
[18:06:55] penpen: и с каждым взглядом мне становится страшно при мысли о том, что кто-то это поддерживает
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[19:29:21] Хрюндель (джангист): http://www.stophamas.com/israel-vs-hamas-soldier-shirt-large.jpg
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[19:31:57] Лис: хехе
[19:32:31] tilarids: кульно
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[20:27:02] Portnov: Хрюндель (джангист): я тут интересную теорию услышал. У мусульман же сейчас примерно 15-й век (от начала ислама). Христиане как раз в это время крестовыми походами маялись. Видимо, и на мусульман накатило...
[20:27:45] Хрюндель (джангист): Portnov, а евреи то тут причём во всех этих теориях? ))
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[20:28:38] Portnov: ну они как всегда, под горячую руку попали :)
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[20:28:43] Лис: как причём?!
[20:28:59] Патриот is now online
[20:29:01] Лис: они арабскую терторую землёй обетованной объявили
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[20:29:08] Лис: территорию*
[20:29:55] Хрюндель (джангист): Лис, и что с того? мы же просто назвали её священной землёй.. мыж не забрали её..
[20:30:08] sintetico is now online
[20:30:22] Хрюндель (джангист): Лис, я щас москву назову священной, что меня москвичи ненавидить за это должны?
[20:30:28] Лис: хыхы
[20:30:35] Лис: просто назвали, ну я понял
[20:30:48] Лис: а израиль современный, это тоже, "просто назвали"?
[20:30:59] Лис: шмат паластины в 46-ом (кажется) отожрали
[20:31:02] Хрюндель (джангист): Лис, а создали государство голосованием, в котором израиль не участвовал, а учавствовали СССР и тд
[20:31:16] Лис: нуда, это ООН подкрутило, да
[20:31:54] Хрюндель (джангист): Ну нас не ебёт, ООН, ХУОН.. Вот пусть и ООН ненавидят
[20:31:59] Лис: в голосовали всякие райзбегри, и циммерманы ;)
[20:32:00] Хрюндель (джангист): А мы тут не причём ))
[20:32:03] Лис: типо они ООН
[20:32:39] piranha: а им похуй, кто крутил
[20:32:46] piranha: вы живёте - вам и получать
[20:33:17] Хрюндель (джангист): piranha, да здесь по барабану, это лишь бы причина была.. Как гопники.. найдут к чему докапаться..
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[22:30:34] tilarids: Книжка занятно оформлена - http://learnyouahaskell.com/
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[22:33:26] azzz: гы
[22:33:36] azzz: Прмя таки букварь программиста :)
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[22:34:48] xa4a: классно выглядит
[22:35:07] piranha: Palm Pre уже видели?
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[22:36:40] xa4a: какая OS?
[22:37:16] piranha: их собственная
[22:37:18] penpen: webOS
[22:37:20] piranha: на основе линупса
[22:37:25] piranha: дада
[22:37:34] piranha: ну то, что ACCESS делало все эти годы, я так понимаю
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[22:37:45] pzskc383: писю пинало
[22:37:57] pzskc383: ACCESS
[22:38:08] penpen: клавиатура только мне кажется не слишком удобная у него
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[22:38:29] piranha: та явно пинало
[22:38:36] piranha: penpen: как и раньше у трео была
[22:38:38] penpen: кнопки маленькие и перевешивать будет
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[22:39:06] xa4a: посмотрел на оф сайте картинки
[22:39:20] xa4a: ифон круче
[22:40:13] piranha: походу да
[22:40:38] piranha: а гуглёвый пока не очень внушает, бо там набор только с физической клавы
[22:40:50] xa4a: клавиатура тут как в калькуляторе
[22:40:55] piranha: как в трео
[22:40:57] piranha: олдскул
[22:40:58] piranha: %)
[22:41:03] piranha: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7ojw5/my_first_app_just_got_published_to_the_app_store/
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[22:42:04] penpen: вопрос, в каком случае нельзя писать в сокет?
[22:42:20] penpen: если не происходит чтение, и сокет сконнектился уже.
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[22:48:03] red-agent: /me не понял суть вопроса
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[22:49:09] penpen: когда нужно ждать появление возможности записи в сокет? исключая случаи когда из него идет чтение и он еще не сконектился
[22:50:08] red-agent: в 00:00 по Гринвичу.
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[22:50:12] red-agent: вопрос вырази нормально.
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[22:51:39] penpen: будет ли задержка, для ожидания появления возможности записи в сокет, при записи, в случае если из сокета не идет чтение и он сконектился
[22:51:42] penpen: ?
[22:52:16] red-agent: ты слышал про state polling?
[22:52:18] tilarids: xa4a, ифон не может быть круче.
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[22:53:57] penpen: э, нет.
[22:55:06] penpen: интересует, много ли времени проводит софтина в ожидании появления возможности записи в сокет
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[22:59:21] tilarids: думаю, может и много
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[22:59:40] penpen: просто в твистеде это не реализовано, думал стоит ли делать.
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[22:59:58] penpen: ожидание эвента возможности записи в сокет.
[23:00:46] tilarids: ну, сокет можно под завязку забить данными, чтобы не лезло больше?
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[23:01:24] penpen: хм, мне кажется нет.
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[23:01:46] tilarids: а если ты будешь в него быстро писать, а система будет не успевать всё отправлять, например, потери будут?
[23:02:20] penpen: нужно смотреть на реализацию сокетов в системе, т.к. внутри вполне могут быть очереди
[23:02:22] red-agent: при очередном send() все повиснет, пока сетевой стек на flushнится чтобы освободить тебе место.
[23:02:50] tilarids: red-agent, а в асинхронном случае?
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[23:03:51] red-agent: в асинхронном используется state polling.
[23:06:00] penpen: что это?
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