[00:00:04] albb: Минимальные системные требования
Процессор: AMD K-5 75+/Intel 486 DX2 75 MHz
[00:00:15] albb: ОЗУ: 16 Мб
Видеокарта: nVidia Riva TNT/ATI Rage 128 Pro
[00:00:34] xa4a: м?
[00:00:49] albb: ГЭГ: Отвязное приключение. Вот ищё где слить можно.
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[00:00:57] sevenov: бля, эта хуйня - не кот
[00:01:05] albb: ищу*
[00:01:44] sevenov: Оно спрыгнуло с разгону с подоконника на диван, отрекошетилось и по стене забрался до потолка, ударился бошкой, упал на деван и съебался с комнаты
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[00:02:12] albb: sevenov, не не, всё верно.
[00:02:20] xa4a: albb: goldenbank?
[00:02:25] albb: Они все так периодические действуют.
[00:02:31] sevenov: albb, ?
[00:02:44] albb: Причём кошки тоже.
[00:02:51] albb: xa4a, что есть голденбанк?
[00:02:54] sevenov: это существо уже дня 4-5 так носится. Причем, заебал вырубать мой ноут
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[00:03:19] xa4a: !g goldenbank
[00:03:27] xa4a: нет
[00:03:33] albb: sevenov, ну правильно. Сидишь за ноутом, на кота внимания не обращаешь.
[00:03:44] xa4a: ком.уа или киев.уа
[00:03:51] sevenov: albb, это не мой кот ;)
[00:03:58] albb: А чей?
[00:04:20] sevenov: albb, хозяина квартиры
[00:04:38] albb: xa4a, не понял чего-то.
[00:05:08] albb: sevenov, может ты ему понравился. Или наоборот, непонравился.
[00:05:28] sevenov: albb, ну как только переехал, весь день дрались :)
[00:05:37] albb: :)
[00:05:49] sevenov: причем серьезно он меня пытался побить :)
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[00:06:06] albb: sevenov, чем от тебя пахло? :)
[00:07:00] sevenov: Эммм. Ну он балдеет от никотина :)
[00:07:22] sevenov: Облизывает пальцы с блаженством на морде закрыв глаза оО
[00:07:30] albb: :)
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[00:08:27] sevenov: Вот то, что он щас вытворил - это жесть. Запрыгнул в большой шуршащий пакет и съебался вместе с ним :D
[00:08:51] albb: Молодой наверное?
[00:09:01] sevenov: да, около года
[00:09:14] sevenov: не, кошак-то ржачный, но иногда так бесит
[00:09:55] sevenov: А, хм. Вспомнил. Может быть такое, что его от травы уже 3й день не отпускает? >_>
[00:10:23] albb: Типа "Почему я люблю шурупы с головкой под крестовую отвёртку"?
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[00:10:58] sevenov: Не понял аналогии :)
[00:11:13] albb: Ну там тоже долго не отпускало :)
[00:11:34] sevenov: Ааа =)
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[02:01:36] xa4a: блин. снова на ночь глядя в проггите перлы вылазят
[02:01:39] xa4a: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.haskell.cafe/50590/focus=50951
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[02:21:35] xa4a: Oh shi~. Django 2.0 http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2009/jan/18/django-20/
[02:22:13] xa4a: хотя похоже на фейк
[02:25:42] sevenov: фейк, 100% )
[02:25:49] sevenov: щас 1.1 дождаться бы )
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[02:32:37] xa4a: sevenov: это с 1.1 не связано
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[09:11:25] Лис: xa4a, ы
[09:11:31] Лис: вот вам и БСД лицензия
[09:12:22] Лис: Trademarks "pyEggs", "PDFxporter", "Ruby on Rails to Django", "RoR to Django", "Vyper-Cloud SDK" and "VyperLogix" are trademarks of Vyper Logix Corp. All rights reserved.
вот это они разве что зря сделали, ибо пошлют нахуй их, а так, фсё, капец
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[10:08:23] Лис: http://www.pypi.info/
[10:08:27] Лис: ыы
[10:08:41] Лис: тупо спамят индекс
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[10:12:26] Лис: >django XP comin’ right up
[10:12:28] Лис: :D
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[11:19:10] mishok13: 22 дюйма за 180 баксов
[11:19:18] mishok13: я отстал от жизни :(
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[11:25:36] Лис: да, щаз все 24 подавай уже
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[11:26:56] nmk: а для row-level permissions в джанге все юзают django-granular-permissions или пишут что-то свое? :)
[11:28:51] Муркт: mishok13: так то же не монитор
[11:29:04] Муркт: а специальное устройство для вытекания глаз
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[11:31:38] mishok13: бле, ребяты
[11:31:59] mishok13: я слепой и не вижу разницы между TN+Film и PVA
[11:32:41] mishok13: (кроме как в цене)
[11:32:44] Муркт: сочувствую
[11:32:51] Муркт: у тебя уже нечему вытекать
[11:32:54] mishok13: ы
[11:33:11] Лис: ^)
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[12:17:18] piranha: интересно, а можно где-то на шару найти выпуск python magazine за август?
[12:18:59] slav0nic: можна скинутся икупить В)
[12:19:14] slav0nic: в варезе вроде не пробегало
[12:19:50] piranha: slav0nic: там просто есть статья про pyparsing, которая, говорят, очень хорошая
[12:19:57] piranha: а то доки по пайпарсингу убожеские просто
[12:20:11] piranha: slav0nic: а ты в курсе, как его покупать можно? Карточкой, например?
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[12:21:00] slav0nic: подписка на год 60уе по-моему
[12:21:07] piranha: ага
[12:21:16] piranha: а с бумагой - 70, но это только для сша и канады :(
[12:21:28] piranha: slav0nic: в смысле ты имеешь в виду скинуться и подписаться на год?
[12:21:29] slav0nic: угу
[12:21:35] slav0nic: угу, на пдф
[12:21:36] piranha: интересный вариант, кстати
[12:21:41] piranha: кто-нибудь ещё заинтересован?
[12:21:41] slav0nic: да я предлогал
[12:21:44] slav0nic: никто не захотел
[12:21:48] slav0nic: думал сам подпишусь)
[12:21:50] piranha: хыхы ;)
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[12:22:05] piranha: ну если что, то я вдруг заинтересовался... но меня пока только августовский интересует )
[12:22:11] slav0nic: )
[12:22:45] slav0nic: 7уе 1 журнал
[12:22:56] piranha: ага
[12:23:04] piranha: у меня денег на карточке нету, к сожалению :(
[12:23:18] slav0nic: вмз есть?)
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[12:23:39] piranha: нету
[12:23:42] slav0nic: дай линк чё там за темы
[12:24:24] piranha: хз, Advanced Pyparsing: Implementing a JSON Parser Using Results Names
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[12:26:15] nmk: piranha: могу оплатить картой, отдашь, ну, когда что-нибудь электронное появится -- кинешь на телефон нме..
[12:26:17] piranha: http://pythonmagazine.com/c/pymag/p/write_for_us

я не понял, с написания статей для них - никакого профита?
[12:26:35] piranha: nmk: да лучше не надо, мне не к спеху, а должным быть не очень клёво )
[12:26:50] nmk: piranha: ну я как бы забуду завтра и ты уже ничего не должен :)
[12:26:58] piranha: вово, забуду )
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[12:27:27] nmk: ну, смотри сам. :)
[12:27:44] nmk: но если для благого дела, то можно конечно просто тебе подарить журнал :))
[12:28:16] slav0nic: не понтяно почему на phparch.com журнал стоит 5 уе
[12:28:24] piranha: не, дело в том, что пока ни для какого дела :) В смысле дело-то есть, но я его забросил совсем пока :(
[12:28:28] piranha: slav0nic: он же?
[12:28:49] slav0nic: та да но возможно глюк движка)
[12:28:53] slav0nic: http://www.phparch.com/c/magazine/issue/79
[12:29:02] nmk: piranha: дай короче линк на нужный номер журанал
[12:29:45] piranha: Do You Accept Article Submissions?
Of course we do! Read our Write for Us section for more information (and, in case you're wondering, we do pay for articles we publish).
[12:29:47] piranha: таки профит есть :)
[12:29:48] slav0nic: nmk, http://pythonmagazine.com/c/issue/view/79 по ходу, да я б и се купил но темы там не интересные
[12:30:04] slav0nic: piranha, про hg насри)
[12:30:16] piranha: slav0nic: вово, об этом я уже и думаю )
[12:30:25] piranha: гагага
[12:30:26] nmk: piranha: 79ый?
[12:30:38] piranha: угу
[12:30:53] piranha: гыгы, за прошлый октябрь можно бесплатно скачать
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[12:31:11] piranha: фак, там кроме пайпарсинга ничего интересного :(
[12:31:50] nmk: хм. он в корзину не кладется
[12:31:53] nmk: т.е. жмешь положить
[12:32:00] nmk: а тебе Your basket is empty.
[12:32:40] piranha: гыгы
[12:32:46] piranha: nmk: та забей :)
[12:33:05] nmk: попробуйте кто-нибудь, кладется у вас или нет. если кладется -- буду искать глюк
[12:33:29] nmk: хм. а текущий кладется
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[12:34:01] nmk: о. щас все будет
[12:34:32] slav0nic: не удобный у них сайт, в упор не вижу простого списка всех журналов
[12:34:43] nmk: slav0nic: я тоже не нашел
[12:35:48] slav0nic: http://pythonmagazine.com/c/issue/view/74
и тут пупарсинг
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[12:35:58] piranha: ага
[12:36:02] piranha: сайт плохой :(
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[12:37:24] slav0nic: но темы статей интересные)
[12:38:05] slav0nic: форум чёт не пашет
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[12:54:13] tilarids: куча проектов-биллинга и ни одного нормального. хоть самому пиши. :(
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[12:56:13] piranha: я про отсутствие нормальных
[12:57:48] tilarids: а, я думал это "ну и пиши :)"
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[13:34:22] Лис: а в каком модуле там было, нормализация URL?
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[13:40:05] slav0nic: народ, каким там ща есть бесплатыне хостинги нормальные? (не себе)
[13:40:21] slav0nic: Лис, а что именно надо?
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[13:41:26] Лис: да так ;)
[13:41:31] Лис: один говнокод пофиксить
[13:41:48] nmk: slav0nic: appengine? :)
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[13:42:11] slav0nic: там хтмл)
[13:42:19] slav0nic: Лис, ну в urllib + cgi
[13:42:22] nmk: ну и пофиг
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[14:14:28] slav0nic: чё за нах
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[14:15:33] piranha: у меня средне :)
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[14:16:12] Муркт: э?
[14:16:23] Муркт: как обычно
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[14:26:48] tilarids: у меня норма
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[18:14:54] piranha: http://none-smilodon.kiev.ua/2009/01/19-248
[18:15:55] Лис: а кто такой черновецкий?
[18:15:59] Александp: http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3668712/
реально книга из серии "для чайников" может столько стоить?
[18:16:27] nmk: Александp: ну так на инглише же
[18:16:31] Муркт: Лис: мэр Киева.
[18:18:21] piranha: Лис: это первый космонавт, который вышел в открытый космос не покидая собственного кабинета
[18:18:29] Александp: nmk,
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596515829/
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/4220809/
[18:18:43] xa4a: кстати, говорят с сегодняшнего дня у нас вся медицина платная
[18:18:53] Александp: ну и что что на инглише, это за доставку ещё 100% :)
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[18:19:24] nmk: Александp: ну да. накрутка и прочие вещи.
[18:20:17] Александp: просто сегодня был в одном из крупнеших в ДС книжных магазинов, так по python была всего одна книга
[18:20:19] Александp: http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3996977/
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[18:20:31] Александp: и то, имхо, не самая удачная
[18:22:16] gigimon: народ
[18:22:47] gigimon: никто не посоветует книг по mysql (или общем по бд) или по админитрированию никсов
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[18:24:19] bergamot: или или?
[18:24:21] A2K: /me не понимает как вообще можно писать книжки про администрирование юникс
[18:25:07] A2K: точнее, мне непонятно две вещи: как и зачем
[18:25:18] bergamot: /me не видел хороших книг по адмиринистированию юникс
[18:25:56] bergamot: берётся любая, которая понравится при листании, прочитывается и добавляется к гуглю
[18:26:16] A2K: /me не видел книг про администрирование юникс
[18:26:27] xa4a: Running Linux
[18:26:27] bergamot: у меня дома есть по фряхе
[18:26:28] A2K: кроме хендбуков генту и фрибсд
[18:26:46] A2K: bergamot, по фре абсолютно всё описано в её официальном хендбуке
[18:26:46] bergamot: бумажная!!
[18:27:14] A2K: бумажная книжка по юникс через пол года после её написания годиться тока жопу вытерать
[18:27:49] gigimon: ок,оп mysql или общим БД
[18:28:08] albb: A2K, не согласен
[18:28:22] A2K: albb, что, слишком жесткая, да?
[18:28:32] A2K: бывают плохие... лучше сразу помягче выбрать
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[18:28:45] bergamot: gigimon, поздно, ща будем троллить по поводу администрирования никсов
[18:29:01] albb: Юникс слишком консервативет, чтобы книги так быстро устаревали.
[18:29:12] A2K: лол
[18:29:26] A2K: ну назови мне десяток программ, которые не обновились за последние пол года
[18:29:39] A2K: ладно, пусть багфиксы не в счёт
[18:29:48] albb: А при чём тут новые версии программ.
[18:29:54] bergamot: насколько адмнистрирование пятой фряхи отличается от шестой и седьмой?
[18:30:01] albb: Все принципы администрирования и настройки остаются.
[18:30:45] A2K: bergamot, другие буковки в /etc/rc.conf писать
[18:30:50] albb: Даже файлы конфигураций от старых версий зачастую подходят к новым.
[18:31:08] A2K: albb, обратная совместимость часто остаётся.
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[18:32:19] A2K: бывает начитаются люди всяких умных книжек, а потом делают что-то вроде "apt-get install sendmail" :(
[18:32:22] albb: /me купил книжку "Руководство администратора Linux"
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[18:32:38] xa4a: A2K: книги нужны не чтобы смотреть, какие буковки в /etc/rc.conf писать, а чтобы объяснить как пользоваться маном и консолью
[18:32:48] xa4a: потому мало устаревают
[18:33:00] xa4a: и всё-таки Running Linux [n]th edition
[18:33:13] albb: А также "Linux. Администрирование сетей TCP/IP"
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[18:33:48] bergamot: я мускуль изучал по книжке "разработка web-приложений с помощью пэхапэ и мускуля"
[18:34:24] gigimon: http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/2309312/?type=3&img=3#
[18:34:40] gigimon: что думаете на ее счет?
[18:35:06] bergamot: имхо - в названии ошибко
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[18:35:23] bergamot: хотя нет, я неправильно прочитал:)
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[18:35:52] bergamot: про криса дейта где-то слышал, кажись в универе на курсе баз данных
[18:36:01] bergamot: ну или просто про дейта
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[18:46:41] A2K: xa4a, как пользоваться маном и консолью обьясняется в три слова
[18:46:50] A2K: а книжки такие длинные, наверна, потому что без мата
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[21:13:14] Муркт: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/7q2vl/post_your_python_tricks/c072wtl
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[21:26:53] xa4a: много хаскелистов там
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[21:27:40] xa4a: один - про монады, другой - nub = list . set Oh, wait...
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[22:48:43] Лис: http://www.securitylab.ru/news/366578.php
[22:50:01] Муркт: мощно
[22:50:28] Лис: >фины поддерживают металлистов, шведы против пиратов. похоже скандинавы адекватные люди
[22:50:30] Лис: :)
[22:50:43] Лис: викинги
[22:50:47] Муркт: *финны
[22:50:55] Муркт: шведы за пиратов.
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[22:51:05] Муркт: бред процитировал, карочи
[22:51:06] Муркт: =)
[22:51:32] Лис: это опечатка
[22:51:38] Лис: s/против/за/
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[22:51:42] xa4a: можно было бы вложить деньги в остров для tpb
[22:51:56] Лис: xa4a, дать есть же уже вроде
[22:52:06] xa4a: только собирались
[22:52:09] Лис: заброшенная нефтяная вышка посереди моря
[22:52:17] xa4a: её не отдали им
[22:52:24] Лис: а, гм
[22:52:30] Лис: и правильно
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[22:52:52] Муркт: почему нефтяная?
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[22:52:55] xa4a: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pirate_bay#Purchases
[22:52:57] Муркт: это была не нефтяная вышка
[22:53:05] Лис: а какая?
[22:53:11] Муркт: это был морской форт времён второй мировой
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[22:53:30] Муркт: или там ещё что-то было? по-моему не было
[22:53:37] piranha: However, they could not buy the man-made platform because the Sealand government did not want to sell to The Pirate Bay.
[22:53:43] piranha: не, ничего больше
[22:53:51] piranha: точнее думали ещё об острове, но с ними ничего не вышло
[22:54:20] xa4a: piranha: на него денег ещё не собрали
[22:54:35] xa4a: там $2b надо было
[22:54:38] piranha: угу
[22:54:41] piranha: "ещё" :)))
[22:54:50] xa4a: :)
[22:55:09] Муркт: на жалкий остров два миллиарда?
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[22:56:22] xa4a: значит не совсем жалкий
[22:56:30] xa4a: пишут, собрали только 20к
[22:56:57] Муркт: просто это эксклюзивное предложение
[22:57:08] Муркт: я думаю, что при наличии денег можно и дешевле купить :)
[22:57:17] Муркт: ну а если денег нет, то ни за сколько не купишь
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[23:32:01] Лис: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/7q2vl/post_your_python_tricks/c072wtl
это мол как бы mix-in
[23:32:04] Лис: ?
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[23:32:39] Муркт: нет
[23:32:47] piranha: это как в руби
[23:32:55] Муркт: ну разве что некоторым образом микс-ин... но ваще не микс-ин
[23:32:56] Лис: ну в руби и есть mixin
[23:33:06] Лис: оно так и называется там
[23:33:18] Муркт: дурацкое название
[23:33:23] Лис: делается легче гораздо
[23:33:28] xa4a: In object-oriented programming languages, a mixin is a class that provides a certain functionality to be inherited by a subclass, but is not meant to stand alone.
[23:33:42] piranha: ага
[23:33:52] Муркт: ага
[23:33:52] piranha: никакого отношения к миксинам открытые классы не имеют
[23:33:54] xa4a: похоже, что применение метакласса миксином - распространённая практика в пятоне
[23:34:22] xa4a: на этом миксиновость заканчивается
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