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[04:50:26] bergamot: Yesterday [18:50] bergamot: хороший канал... полный экран входов выходов
[04:50:28] bergamot: \\
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[09:59:09] mishok13: bergamot, а тебя что конкретно не устраивает?
[09:59:18] mishok13: то, что никто ничего не спрашивает?
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[10:05:41] Live4Fun: нада для таких моментов написать генератор тупых вопросов
[10:05:43] Live4Fun: =)))
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[10:08:00] renyare: я могу сгенерировать сам, если хотите )
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[10:10:02] Live4Fun: давай, у кого тупее!))
[10:10:08] renyare: а генератор сделать просто. надо написать бота, который будет брать рандомный вопрос с itquest.ru
[10:10:52] Live4Fun: *ROFL*
[10:11:00] mishok13: лучше со stackoverflow
[10:11:03] mishok13: там смешнее
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[10:11:15] Лис: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_radio_electr/517752.html
[10:11:17] Лис: %)
[10:13:21] Live4Fun: епт)
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[10:13:49] Live4Fun: сурова так
[10:14:02] renyare: !google тупой вопрос о python
[10:14:08] Live4Fun:
http://sellme.ru/2005/06/16/stiv_djobs_i_tri_ego_istorii
[10:14:35] Live4Fun: *ROFL*
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[10:37:09] Live4Fun: тут есть кто живой?
[10:37:36] mishok13: -1 тупой вопрос
[10:39:44] Live4Fun: а где девачки?
ЗЫ ещё -1 ;-)
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[12:16:52] lic: Привет всем
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[14:36:18] tilarids: кто-нибудь знает, как делать reverse inlines в админке джанговской?
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[14:38:35] tilarids: Например, у меня есть вот такая парочка моделей - http://dumpz.org/5132/ . Как можно в админке School и Restaurant инлайново редактировать адрес?
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[14:39:31] wiz: никак
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[14:39:56] Лис: как никак? обычный инлайн
[14:40:08] tilarids: обычный инлайн работает в другую сторону
[14:40:13] wiz: code or gtfo (8
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[14:40:37] red-agent: tilarids, в какую нахер сторону?
[14:40:38] tilarids: Т.е., если бы я в адресе сделал ForeignKey на школу и ресторан, то можно было бы делать инлайн
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[14:41:00] tilarids: red-agent, предложи вариант решения, а не ругайся
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[14:41:22] wiz: решение - редактировать адрес из адреса
[14:41:38] tilarids: wiz, +1, адрес из адреса и так редактируется
[14:41:46] tilarids: но как бы хочется, чтобы красиво
[14:42:05] red-agent: а адрес из ресторана тебя чем не устраивает?
[14:42:06] wiz: только хаком имх
[14:42:08] Лис: а ты хочешь адрес редактировать как инлайн из школы?
[14:42:15] tilarids: Лис, да
[14:42:23] Лис: иш чаго захотел
[14:42:31] Лис: хитрец %)
[14:42:33] tilarids: wiz, хорошо, тогда какой самый дружественный хак?
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[14:42:47] Лис: писать свою админку %)
[14:43:00] mishok13: TITS
[14:43:17] tilarids: Лис, нее, это плохой хак. И патчинг - тоже плохой хак :)
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[14:48:49] tilarids: и форму свою в админку не засунешь нормально...
[14:48:50] tilarids: фигово
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[14:50:12] Лис: о_О
[14:50:15] Лис: врёшь ты всё
[14:50:53] Лис: tilarids, http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/admin/#form
[14:51:18] tilarids: It is important you use a ModelForm here otherwise things can break. See the forms documentation on custom validation for more information.
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[14:51:57] Лис: и что, это проблема для тебя?
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[14:52:31] tilarids: It is important you use a ModelForm here otherwise things can break. See the forms documentation on custom validation for more information.
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[14:58:47] tilarids: Лис, меня глюкнуло
[14:58:53] tilarids: в принципе, вот этим то и занимаюсь
[14:59:08] tilarids: просто мне не нравится, когда пишут, что может быть broken
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[15:00:47] Лис: /me slaps tilarids
[15:01:11] Лис: не юзай для создания формы класс Form, юзай ModelForm
[15:01:15] Лис: в остальном тоже самое
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[15:14:05] Лис: пигн
[15:14:27] wiz: gjyu
[15:14:49] Лис: затупил шото жабИрру
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[15:43:28] mishok13: """Некоторые компании уже продают квадратные метры по себестоимости"""
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[15:47:16] Typhon: бедняжки
[15:49:16] Лис: ы?
[15:49:16] mishok13: это речь о Киеве
[15:49:16] mishok13: типа, жалеются
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[15:49:17] Лис: до ручки довели уже
[15:49:17] Лис: :D
[15:49:17] Муркт: только себестоимость они как-то неадекватно считают, наверняка.
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[15:49:18] Svoloch: вот облом, я уже собрался переезжать, а тут недвижимость подешевела :(
[15:49:18] mishok13: 5000 гривен за кв. м.
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[15:49:19] mishok13: это за песок с водой и толпу чернорабочих
[15:49:53] Муркт: скока получается нормальная двухкомнатная?
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[15:50:05] Svoloch: ну может через пол года обратно подорожает....
[15:50:19] Муркт: Svoloch: через полгода оно ещё дешевле будет, раза в два.
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[15:50:55] mishok13: нормальная двухкомнатная 300 тысяч гривен будет стоить
[15:50:58] mishok13: по этим ценам
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[15:51:32] mishok13: что уже ближе к реальным ценам, но есть еще куда совершенствоваться
[15:52:41] Муркт: угу.
[15:53:12] Муркт: Плюс надо учитывать, что эти квартиры будут полностью голые, в них нельзя просто вьехать и жить.
[15:53:29] jacoder: 5000 гривен это в баксах сколько?
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[15:57:32] azzz: меньше тыщи
[15:57:40] azzz: сейчас курс около 9 гривен, вроде
[15:57:48] azzz: или 8
[15:57:55] Муркт: смотря что ты делаешь - покупаешь или продаёшь
[15:58:06] azzz: так что в любом случае - копейки :-)
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[16:00:05] piranha: сегодня в обменниках 7.9-8.2
[16:00:09] jacoder: 8-0 600 гринов.квадрометр? холява!
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[16:01:05] azzz: в киеве, новостройка
[16:01:06] azzz: ога
[16:01:16] azzz: А можно я полтора квадрата куплю? :)
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[16:01:26] jacoder: гы
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[16:01:54] azzz: мне чиста душ купить :-) Даже всю ванную комнату не надо, только душ :-)
[16:02:32] jacoder: сидячую ванну ;) в ней и ночевать мона :))
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[16:20:44] alexwebd: Всем привет
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[16:21:49] alexwebd: Есть любители VIm на канале?
интересует как настроить автокомплит из питоновских либов
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[16:24:04] Svoloch: кто тут пользуется jquery?
[16:24:10] nmk: мну
[16:24:12] nmk: иногда
[16:24:23] alexwebd: мну тоже
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[16:25:28] Svoloch: как оно вообще работает с xhtml?
[16:25:59] nmk: нормально работает
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[16:26:35] Svoloch: на svg вообще работать отказывается
[16:26:46] alexwebd: чего?
[16:27:03] nmk: кто-то тут с такой же проблемой был
[16:27:13] Svoloch: в svg нет innerHTML
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[16:28:09] nmk: ну тебе никто и не обещал что jquery будет с svg работать. делай xml документ из svg и по нему бегай
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[16:32:38] Svoloch: ну дык пол года назад хотябы запросы к дереву документа в svg нормально делало
[16:34:52] nmk: видно что-то поменяли ;)
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[16:36:42] mishok13: SVG и есть XML документом
[16:38:17] nmk: mishok13: имеется ввиду объект.
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[16:42:09] Svoloch: ладно, я уже почти дописал замену для innerHTML, ща буду пробовать вставлять это в jquery
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[17:07:44] nmk: о. а тут же есть знатоки дебиана. скажите, могу я как-то поставить один пакет и все его зависимости из sid'а? ну типа прописать как-то репозиторий и сказать apt-getу из какого репозитория брать пакет
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[17:09:47] piranha: nmk: да
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[17:09:54] piranha: apt-get install someshit/sid
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[17:10:06] piranha: или sid/someshit? забываю постоянно
[17:10:30] nmk: хм. а все из sidа ставиться не будет подефолту? я ж его в sources.list пропишу
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[17:12:37] Лис: apt-get -t sid install shit
[17:13:03] nmk: а как сделать что бы потом по apt-get upgrade мне на sid все не переехало?
[17:13:06] Лис: nmk, что бы не сталось, пропиши так же
$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
APT::Default-Release "testing";
[17:13:07] piranha: nmk: ну если ты в преференсах не укажешь, что не он основной
[17:13:12] nmk: а.
[17:13:14] piranha: ага
[17:13:17] piranha: именна
[17:13:23] nmk: спасибо. попробую
[17:13:51] Лис: я вчера OOo 3.0.1 из experimental поставил %)
[17:13:57] nmk: и как?
[17:14:01] Лис: шустрее стал
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[17:14:27] Лис: спшэш новый %)
но кроме того сильной разницы чо то не заметно
[17:14:32] Лис: сплэш*
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[17:19:08] nmk: а в hg я могу как-то репозиторий на удаленную тачку положить? ну, по ssh скажем. т.е. у меня есть локальный, а я хочу что бы он где-то в другом месте лежал. понятно, что можно просто скопировать туда, а потом склонировать, но может есть какой-то красивый путь?
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[17:20:07] piranha: nmk: hg clone . ssh://...
[17:20:46] Лис: hg init ssh://blabla/path
[17:21:21] piranha: а зачем инит?
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[17:22:00] nmk: а по push оно туда уходить будет? :)
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[17:22:25] piranha: nmk: нет, поредактируй .hg/hgrc
[17:22:39] piranha: там [paths] \n default = ....
[17:22:54] nmk: пасиба.
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[17:23:33] joes: есть вопрос, наверное странный. есть функция, надо сохранить "указатель" на нее, причем при "сохранении" указать значение параметра. Пример кода:
[17:23:33] Лис: я для примера :)
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[17:23:42] joes: def foo(a): pass
[17:23:53] Лис: bar = foo
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[17:23:56] joes: да.
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[17:23:59] Лис: bar(a)
[17:24:11] Typhon: думается partial нужен
[17:24:16] joes: именно, но я хочу сохранить прототип функции с значением
[17:24:19] joes: что бы bar()
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[17:24:27] joes: вызвался с нужным мне значением
[17:24:29] Typhon: functools.partial
[17:24:36] joes: понял, спасибо, смотрю.
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[17:25:09] joes: оно, спасибо :-)
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[17:27:06] nmk: а mercurialeclipse ничего такой судя по картинкам
[17:27:38] Typhon: joes: алсо каррирование посмотри.
[17:28:05] tilarids: мда... смотрю на этот мегамагический код и мне страшновато становится
[17:28:06] Typhon: currying которое
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[17:31:30] tilarids: как можно заассертить выбрасывание определенного исключения?
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[17:32:24] Typhon: зачем?
[17:32:28] tilarids: точнее, есть ли стандартный путь?
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[17:32:37] Typhon: что ты хочешь?
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[17:32:46] Лис: ага, raise Exception
[17:32:47] Лис: :)
[17:32:49] Typhon: ))
[17:32:51] Typhon: вот вот
[17:33:11] tilarids: пишу тест. Тест будет successful, если из него выйдет определенный Exception
[17:33:14] Typhon: для особых извращений можешь попробовать AssertionError = MyCoolError попробовать
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[17:33:24] Typhon: ну и райсь его
[17:33:36] Typhon: тот самый определенный
[17:33:50] mishok13: assertRaises ?
[17:33:58] tilarids: mishok13, типа да. А такое есть?
[17:34:05] mishok13: прикинь
[17:34:22] mishok13: начиная убогим unittest и заканчивая py.test и nose
[17:34:26] mishok13: везде есть
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[17:35:02] tilarids: а определенной конструкции нет?
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[17:35:16] tilarids: ну, и ладно. Меня такой ответ устраивает, остальное найду в гугле
[17:35:35] mishok13: конструкции нету
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[17:37:54] mishok13: если не хочется использовать нормальные средства, используй такую конструкцию:
>>> try:
... foo()
... except SpecificException:
... print 'success'
... except Exception:
... print 'fail'
... else:
... print 'fail'
[17:38:08] mishok13: но всё таки лучше assertRaises
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[17:38:35] tilarids: mishok13, я использую nose, уже нашел, сейчас пишу тест
[17:38:40] mishok13: оки
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[18:11:52] piranha: геоджанго никто не трогал?
[18:13:02] wiz: вопрос недели прям
[18:13:39] mishok13: всех на GIS потянуло, я смотрю
[18:13:53] nmk: сегодня вроде в django-russian кто-то спрашивал
[18:14:13] piranha: гы
[18:14:19] piranha: nmk: имени не помнишь?
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[18:14:25] piranha: того, кто спрашивал?
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[18:14:35] mishok13: небось, Соловьев какой-нибудь
[18:14:37] mishok13: ;)
[18:14:49] nmk:

Grigoriy Petukhov
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[18:15:05] mishok13: ыыы
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[18:16:03] nmk: lorien :)
[18:16:24] piranha: гыыы
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[18:16:52] nmk: он еще в geodjango писал :)
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[18:19:40] piranha: та я вот пошёл на канал геоджанги
[18:19:46] piranha: и выкупил, шо щастье есть
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[18:21:59] mishok13: и в чем же счастье-то?
[18:22:10] piranha: mishok13: в доке
[18:22:26] mishok13: ык
[18:22:40] mishok13: я просто не понимаю, в чем фишка GeoDjango
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[18:23:21] piranha: а
[18:23:42] piranha: в том, что если тебе надо работать с картой, то ты не ебёшься целыми днями, раздупляя шо ж делать, а тратишь на это где-то около 2 часов
[18:23:51] mishok13: хм...
[18:23:53] piranha: "Есть многие субъекты и территории РФ, где информация о мировом кризисе доходит
только через средства массовой информации, а сами регионы это не ощущают на
себе", - сказал спикер Госдумы Борис Грызлов.
Он добавил, что мировой финансовый кризис потому и называется мировым, что
происходит за границами России.

[18:23:56] piranha: ыыыгыггыгагагага
[18:24:08] mishok13: я работаю с картами и не ебусь целыми днями
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[18:24:17] mishok13: :(
[18:24:38] azzz: piranha, у нас(россия, сн - один фиг) конец света каждый день
[18:24:53] azzz: А тут кризис какойто мировой. Конечно, он в остальном мире только :))
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[18:24:55] azzz: снг*
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[18:25:42] piranha: mishok13: ты с нуля всё писал? И скока времени потратил на раздупление?
[18:26:00] mishok13: у нас даже рендер свой
[18:26:06] mishok13: так что я вопрос не очень понимаю
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[18:26:46] piranha: а
[18:26:51] piranha: ну у меня вот нихера не своё
[18:26:57] mishok13: чтобы понять, что из себя представляют геоданные 2-ух часов ну никак не хватит
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[18:27:07] piranha: а мне не надо понимать, что они представляют
[18:27:11] piranha: мне надо точки на карте расставлять
[18:27:18] mishok13: тю блять
[18:27:51] piranha: да ёпта, просто расставление точек (используя админку) у меня заняло где-то с час учитывая скачивание postgis
[18:28:04] piranha: и ещё полчаса заняло одупление, как же нарисовать карту со всеми точками
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[18:29:17] azzz: А правда, что в Джанге list_detail.object_detail не хочет работать с кверисетом вида Foobar.objects.get(id = 100500)? Т.е. когда выборка одного элемента, а не списка
[18:29:51] azzz: и существует базовое представления для решения этого?
[18:29:51] piranha: Foobar.objects.get(id = 100500) - не кверисет
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[18:30:04] piranha: сделай type(...)
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[18:30:10] azzz: piranha, а что тогда кверисет? Обьясни, пожалуйста
[18:30:11] piranha: и увидь, что это просто объект
[18:30:17] azzz: ам
[18:30:19] azzz: хм.
[18:30:23] azzz: пнятно
[18:30:46] piranha: azzz: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/querysets/#queryset-methods-that-do-not-return-querysets
[18:30:46] azzz: А базовое представление есть для работы с обьектами?
[18:31:00] azzz: ок, полистаю
[18:31:15] piranha: нуу... что мешает передавать кверисет Foobar.objects.all() и говорить, что выдернуть объект с id=100500?
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[18:32:09] azzz: т.е. заюзать не get, а filter
[18:32:24] piranha: эм
[18:32:25] piranha: не
[18:32:29] azzz: не?
[18:32:50] piranha: ты доку по object_detail читал?
[18:33:04] azzz: Джангобук читаю
[18:33:16] azzz: Судя по всему, там доки такой нет
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[18:33:26] piranha: там же написано, что передаёшь просто весь кверисет
[18:33:27] piranha: а .get он сделает за тебя
[18:33:38] piranha: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/generic-views/
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[18:33:42] piranha: вот дока
[18:33:55] azzz: спасибо
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[18:48:36] azzz: В общем, ага, тупняк. тот же самый render_to_response спасёт
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[20:24:38] joes: я вот не знаю, интересно кому будет... но сразу скажу - DotNetNuke это жуткое убожество. Справочник на тему "как делать нельзя".
[20:24:46] joes: Предваряя вопросы, скажу сразу - это по работе.
[20:25:04] joes: Начем с того, что "это" вставляет такой DOCTYPE
[20:25:07] joes: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
[20:25:22] joes: в результате чего IE перелазит в quirksmode
[20:25:26] joes: поменять обратно низзя.
[20:25:45] piranha is now offline
[20:25:49] joes: Во вторых, "оно" требует write permission на всю свою инсталляцию
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[20:26:04] joes: ибо настройки меняет прямо в файлах
[20:26:35] piranha is now Be the best that you can be
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[20:27:40] piranha: гыгы
[20:27:46] joes: как система - оно расширяемое.. но через одно место.
[20:27:59] piranha: joes: собсна потому мы тут, а не там :)
[20:28:00] Муркт: анальными зондами, видать
[20:28:01] joes: если очень хочется чего-то нестандартного, надо лезть в сорцы... которые Visual Basic
[20:28:13] piranha is now Be the best that you can be
[20:28:21] Муркт: joes: дэто круто
[20:28:25] joes: тот же пхпшный drupal и то во внутренностях симпатичнее
[20:28:49] joes: документация отсутствует
[20:28:55] joes: точнее она как бы есть...
[20:29:02] Лис is now away
[20:29:05] joes: но для девелоперов модулей ее как бы и нет...
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[20:29:10] joes: короче, надо лезть в сорцы
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[20:29:19] joes: которые, повторюсь, Visual Basic
[20:29:32] lizzard is now away
[20:29:37] joes: они юнит-тест как понятие (!) ввели в самой последней версии 5.0.0
[20:29:47] joes: которая вышла 17 Декабря 2008 года.
[20:29:55] Муркт: оно ещё разрабатывается?
[20:29:57] Муркт: нифига себе.
[20:30:01] joes: понятно что вообще нифига не покрыто этими самыми юнит тестами
[20:30:11] joes: оно уже.. гм.. 8 лет разрабатывается
[20:30:18] Лис is now online
[20:30:19] joes: как первый PHPNuke появился
[20:30:48] joes: так вот, я к чему все веду - на .NET нет нормальных CMS. Вообще
[20:30:57] joes: есть фреймворки-надстройки над ASP.NET
[20:31:13] joes: но именно чего-то готового и стабильного а-ля Zope, Drupal, etc
[20:31:16] joes: нет вообще.
[20:31:22] Лис: joes, наболело да?
[20:31:26] joes: да блин :-(
[20:31:31] joes: угу
[20:31:44] kosmos342 is now online
[20:31:59] joes: вобщем, высказался, полегчало :-)
[20:32:29] Муркт: :D
[20:32:32] joes: /me пошел думать как заставить IE правильно работать с width+padding в quirksmode
[20:33:11] Лис: а у меня провайдер сука, заворачивает насильно фаерволом к себе в недра 25-ый порт, и там на спам фильтрует (или просто логирует)
[20:33:14] Лис: и всё бы ничего
[20:33:18] Лис: я бы даже никогда не заметил
[20:33:24] Лис: если бы система работала беззбойно
[20:33:25] pizgin is now online
[20:33:34] Лис: но так хер жеж!
[20:33:34] piranha: гагага
[20:33:49] piranha: а у меня! У меня ебанутая ассембла задрала просить пароль
[20:34:07] piranha: и непонятно, чего ж она хочет?! Вводил уже всё шо можно
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[20:34:43] Лис: коннект значит на 25-ый наружу попадает в провйдера и там бесследно теряется :(
и вот я как собака сейчас, рассылки читаю, а ответить не могу
[20:35:03] Лис: долбо солярки висеть изволятъ
[20:35:34] piranha: бляяя
[20:35:41] piranha: кто тут хвалил ассемблу?!
[20:35:48] Лис: red
[20:35:49] Лис: :)
[20:36:07] piranha: шоб он горел в аду вместе с этим говном!
[20:36:08] Муркт: он ещё и дотнет хвалил
[20:36:17] piranha: какого перца я с домена на домен должен скакать мазафака?
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[20:37:05] piranha: бляггагага
[20:37:11] piranha: оно выдаёт text/plain
[20:37:16] piranha: я залогинился, непонятно почему
[20:37:20] piranha: но теперь это мегалол
[20:37:26] Лис: на hg.blabla
[20:37:27] Лис: ага
[20:37:29] Лис: есть такое
[20:37:42] piranha: бгагагаг лол
[20:37:59] Лис: /me потыкал палочкой piranha
[20:38:24] piranha: Лис: если я правильно понял, то на следующей неделе мы планируем спринт к бетаверсии )
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[20:38:38] piranha: Лис: слушай, а ты не в курсе, где там пароль менять?
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[20:38:46] Лис: неа
[20:38:59] piranha: нашол
[20:39:07] piranha: гореть в аду за такой интерхвейсъ
[20:39:10] mishok13 is now xa
[20:39:19] Лис: http://www.assembla.com/user/edit
[20:39:24] Лис: справа
[20:39:34] piranha: ага
[20:39:42] piranha: на треугольничек надо нажать
[20:40:24] piranha: feel yourself a pixel-hunter
[20:40:27] piranha: :\
[20:41:04] piranha: Why Subversion does not suck

Posted by Andy Singleton on Dec 30 02:00 2008

гыгы, я это читал
[20:41:14] piranha: это наверное такой же пацан, как редагенд
[20:41:37] joes: ой, subversion, subversion... нам бы хоть сабвершн разрешили на работе юзать... :-)
[20:41:42] joes: ClearCase, ёпт.
[20:41:44] piranha: а шо вы юзаете?
[20:41:45] piranha: лол
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[20:41:51] piranha: ЛОЛ!
[20:41:54] piranha: :D
[20:42:03] piranha: joes: а что, слова не действуют? :)
[20:42:30] Муркт: piranha: неправильный вопрос задаешь
[20:42:36] Муркт: joes: а что, много платят? :)
[20:42:48] joes: хватает, хватает :-)
[20:42:55] joes: потому и приходится.
[20:43:05] piranha: ну я кагбе предполагаю, что если приходится пользоваться, значит есть какой-то аргумент :)
[20:43:15] piranha: joes: ну я ж говорю, убедить не получается, что ли? :)
[20:43:19] joes: увы.
[20:43:21] piranha: ну это ж не так сложно, показать плюсы
[20:43:26] joes: я понимаю
[20:43:29] piranha: тем более по сравнению с клирокейзом
[20:43:31] Лис: Энди их начальнег
[20:43:33] joes: там - большая корпорация
[20:43:34] Лис: CEO
[20:43:46] joes: у которой правила, бюрократия, лицензии
[20:43:47] Лис: или CTO
[20:43:48] joes: и т.д.
[20:43:49] piranha: Лис: та знаю
[20:43:56] kosmos342 is now online
[20:43:57] kosmos342 is now online
[20:44:09] joes: посему они подписались с IBM на ClearCase, купили лицензию на 25 лет
[20:44:11] piranha: joes: во лажа
[20:44:12] joes: вот и сидят
[20:44:13] PC_ is now online
[20:44:15] piranha: 25 лет
[20:44:17] piranha: бугага
[20:44:22] Лис: ыыыыы
[20:44:25] piranha: а почему на вин3.1 на 25 лет не купили? :)))
[20:44:32] joes: ага... там на рабочее место, standalone лицензия $3к
[20:44:34] joes: в год
[20:44:57] piranha: олололо
[20:45:00] Лис: IBM с лохами не хутит я вижу
[20:45:00] piranha: /me плачет
[20:45:03] Лис: бреет по полной
[20:45:07] piranha: ага
[20:45:09] Лис: не шутит*
[20:45:31] joes: там много странного
[20:45:34] piranha: 25 лет!!!
[20:45:35] Муркт: мы тут в истерике
[20:45:36] piranha: ааааа!
[20:45:38] piranha: я ещё не прожил
[20:45:40] piranha: :DD
[20:45:42] joes: скажем решение юзать ASP.NET
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[20:46:24] joes: тоже вот такими вот принципами вызвано
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[20:46:41] Муркт: о, а вот и фонатег дотнета пришёл :)
[20:46:42] joes: мы подписались с Microsoft
[20:46:43] Муркт: red-agent
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[20:46:50] joes: потому юзаем только их
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[20:47:07] joes: не, мне .net тоже нравится, не спорю :-)
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[20:47:11] red-agent: /me злой
[20:47:12] joes: но asp.net - нет
[20:47:15] red-agent: /me угробил макось
[20:47:20] joes: точнее, скорее нет, чем да.
[20:47:22] Муркт: редагент всегда злой
[20:47:23] red-agent: а она не хочет вставать теперь
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[20:48:08] piranha: red-agent: ты хвалил ассемблу, но она - говно
[20:48:09] piranha: :Р
[20:48:19] piranha: эт я тебя порадовать решил
[20:48:40] piranha: joes: :)
[20:48:46] piranha: весело у вас, я смотрю :)
[20:48:55] joes: ага, не скучно.
[20:49:02] joes: море эмоций каждый день
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[20:49:13] Лис: joes, а где ты работаешь то?
[20:49:14] piranha: лана, я опять пропал
[20:49:16] Муркт: red-agent: видишь, тебя весь мир ненавидит сегодня. Макось, пользователи ассемблы, противники дотнета и один клоун.
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[20:49:18] joes: аутсорс
[20:49:28] joes: фишка не где, а на кого
[20:49:36] piranha: joes: да у меня вот тоже аутсорс, но зато джанга, хг и openlayers.org ;-)
[20:49:39] piranha: аутсорс и опенсорс
[20:49:49] joes: не, тут полнейший NDA
[20:49:52] joes: и closed-source
[20:49:57] Лис: аутсос, и опенсос :)
[20:50:06] piranha: Лис: ;)
[20:50:10] Лис: Муркт, а клоун кто?
[20:50:32] Муркт: Лис: клоун из цитаты.
[20:50:52] Лис: про "убить всех евреев"?
[20:50:57] red-agent: Муркт, та пиздец вобще.
[20:51:00] Муркт: да
[20:51:17] red-agent: piranha, ассембла была нормальной, потом они порезали публичные планы и превратилась в говно.
[20:51:24] red-agent: но все равно занятная халява
[20:51:33] Муркт: там УИ уроцкий
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[20:51:47] piranha: red-agent: уи говно
[20:51:52] piranha: про план ничего не знаю
[20:52:27] red-agent: да похуй на уи.
[20:52:43] red-agent: трак есть и хорошо.
[20:52:58] red-agent: на github вон УИ пиздат, зато все остальное унылое говно.
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[20:53:48] piranha: "остальное" - отсутствие тикетов?
[20:54:14] red-agent: отсутствие трака, зажатый публичный план
[20:54:19] red-agent: и собственно гит... :D
[20:54:42] red-agent: ГИТ - Говно Ищо То
[20:54:58] piranha: :D
[20:55:03] Муркт: :D
[20:56:26] red-agent: блядь, угробил весь Farscape и 1 сезон House MD просто так, из-за ебучей макоси.
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[20:56:45] Лис: "you ugly and stupid" (c)
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[20:56:47] Лис: :P
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[20:57:15] red-agent: информативность ошибки бутлодера просто нахер поражает
[20:57:16] red-agent: boot1: error
[20:58:08] Лис: red-agent, а макось не твоя я так понимаю?
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[20:58:30] red-agent: в смысле?
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[20:58:58] Лис: ну комп с макосью твой был или нет?
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[20:59:19] red-agent: да эта же машина, десктопная.
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[21:02:28] pzskc383: osx86?
[21:02:30] Лис: чем можно арифметические операции в консоле выполнять ?
[21:02:39] Муркт: Лис: питоном
[21:02:42] Муркт: :DD
[21:02:42] Лис: нене
[21:02:46] Лис: через пайпы
[21:02:47] pzskc383: bc
[21:03:02] pzskc383: ну и bash itself
[21:03:34] Лис: а как сделать башем n = n + m?
[21:04:56] Portnov: n=$(($n+$m))
[21:05:01] red-agent: pzskc383, угу.
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[21:05:35] pzskc383: red-agent, на osx86wiki и insanelymac искал?
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[21:05:51] red-agent: ессесно.
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[21:33:27] red-agent: ладно, пошел дальше ковырятся
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[22:22:56] azzz: А джанго ведь нифига не работает с агрегатными функциями...
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[22:44:22] azzz: Как бы джангой подсчитать масимальное значение поля в таблице?
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[22:44:31] azzz: Обьектов в модели...
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[22:45:06] red-agent: использовать аггрегацию, очевидно
[22:45:51] red-agent: objects.aggregate(Max('field_name'))
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[22:56:51] kosmos342: добрый вечер. подскажите как быть. из скрипта вызывается приложение
os.system(command)
как сделать что бы скрипт не ждал завершения вызванного приложения?
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[23:06:59] azzz: а нету агрегатного :(
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[23:07:01] azzz: AttributeError: 'Manager' object has no attribute 'aggregate'
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[23:10:44] azzz: >>> foo = Foo.objects.all()
>>> a=[]
>>> for p in foo:
... a.append(p.date)
>>> max(a)
[23:10:46] azzz: О как
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[23:11:09] azzz: только оно, наверное, при тысяче записей тормозить будет...
[23:11:15] azzz: а если еще и юзеров несколько
[23:11:25] azzz: молдованский способ
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[23:14:01] azzz: Так, пора пить кофе или спать. Тупить почти час не дело: >>> f = Foo.objects.all().order_by('-date')[0]
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