[00:00:03] joes: и редактор
[00:00:21] xa4a: редактор и winpdb нормально, а тут - замечательно
[00:00:23] xa4a: должно быть
[00:00:34] joes: для TextMate есть bundle для джанги
[00:00:47] joes: для питона и шаблонов
[00:00:59] xa4a: подсветка + дополнение?
[00:01:04] joes: угу
[00:01:07] xa4a: ну
[00:01:08] xa4a: ну э
[00:01:11] Лис is now online
[00:01:12] xa4a: а ещё есть вим
[00:01:21] xa4a: не сравнивай текстовый редактор с иде
[00:01:23] joes: есть
[00:01:28] xa4a: иде - integrated dev env
[00:01:34] xa4a: смысл в интеграции
[00:01:34] joes: я знаю что такое иде :-)
[00:01:39] xa4a: ну вот
[00:01:44] joes: скажем сначала хотел ставить Eclipse
[00:01:50] joes: что бы девелопить на питоне
[00:01:55] joes: ибо там все in-the-box
[00:01:59] Александp: а чем так крут TextMate?
[00:02:05] joes: а просто удобный.
[00:02:11] joes: плюс расширяемый
[00:02:11] sevenov: хм. Кряк от 3.0.3 имхо на версию с сайта не подойдет
[00:02:28] xa4a: там не кейген, похоже
[00:02:35] joes: я на винде сижу, раньше юзал Notepad++
[00:02:43] Александp: мне как редактор для всего нравится komodo edit
[00:02:55] joes: но e-TextEditor (порт TextMate) удобнее.
[00:03:01] Александp: full screen и всё круто
[00:03:02] joes: Komodo относительно тормозной
[00:03:12] joes: но я их IDE смотрел
[00:03:12] sevenov: xa4a, да, там бинарник заменяется
[00:03:14] joes: для питона
[00:03:18] sevenov: я только *.exe нахожу (
[00:03:37] xa4a: в комментах чё-то про кейген пишут..
[00:03:40] xa4a: а
[00:03:47] xa4a: заменить бинарник и любой ключ.. гм..
[00:03:48] joes: хотя, про WingIDE много хорошего читал.
[00:04:23] gigimon: а смысл бинарник менять
[00:04:27] gigimon: еранво старое получим тогда
[00:05:00] xa4a: ну там странно
[00:05:08] xa4a: т.к. под линукс сама раздача
[00:05:17] xa4a: а кряк - .exe с dllками
[00:05:39] xa4a: и вообще не качает
[00:05:42] xa4a: sevenov: как там?
[00:05:59] sevenov: xa4a, нашел вроде, щас с рапиды лью
[00:06:06] Александp: joes, да,тормоза бывают
но огромный плюс это возможность создания расширений
[00:07:19] Александp: как один из
ну и интерфейс самый приятный глазу из всех что видел
[00:07:56] gigimon: втопку ваш винг
[00:08:08] gigimon: жмакнул открыть файл, и окно открытии уже 2 минуты висит
[00:08:18] gigimon: крэш!
[00:08:53] gigimon: второйраз та мже
[00:08:56] gigimon: неюзабелен
[00:10:16] Александp: интерфейс уродский
[00:11:06] xa4a: хорошо
[00:11:12] xa4a: хорошо, что не качается :)
[00:12:49] sevenov: а че, я 3.1.6 слил под линукс, в tar.gz
[00:12:56] sevenov: мб и кряк там есть
[00:13:09] sevenov: да похуй кароче :)
[00:13:33] Александp: зачем сразу кряк?
[00:13:40] Александp: там есть триал
[00:13:51] gigimon: и на вид хня
[00:14:04] sevenov: Александp, с триалом не интересно
[00:15:46] Александp: http://www.wingware.com/images/screen1.jpg
[00:16:03] gigimon: буду дальше юзать эклипс)
[00:16:17] gigimon: мож потом еще че поставлю на посмотреть
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[00:21:43] gigimon: блин
[00:21:46] gigimon: запушить не могу
[00:22:22] gigimon: из винды
[00:22:23] gigimon: блин
[00:23:30] gigimon: запустил на удаленной тачке hg server
[00:23:33] gigimon: hg serve*
[00:23:37] gigimon: вижу,работает
[00:24:11] gigimon: в винде пишу из папки где .hg находится пишу hg push http://192.168.66.250:8000
[00:24:15] gigimon: говорит что надо ssl
[00:24:19] gigimon: если пишу https
[00:24:25] gigimon: то говорит что протокол незнает
[00:26:52] gigimon: че за бред блин
[00:27:03] gigimon: и через ssh не хочет
[00:27:37] xa4a: через броузер как смотришь?
[00:27:39] gigimon: D:\django\koval_magazine>hg clone . ssh://aliens@192.168.66.250/koval_magazine/
Не удается выполнить указанную программу.
abort: could not create remote repo!
[00:27:40] xa4a: http/https?
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[00:27:44] gigimon: xa4a: https
[00:27:46] gigimon: ой
[00:27:47] gigimon: http
[00:28:10] xa4a: попробуй -v
[00:28:23] gigimon: у клиента или у сервера?
[00:28:45] xa4a: а клиента
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[00:28:56] gigimon: D:\django\koval_magazine>hg push -v http://merc@192.168.66.250:8000
pushing to http://merc@192.168.66.250:8000/
searching for changes
1 changesets found
ssl required
[00:29:22] xa4a: а когда hg serve - там http/https?
[00:29:34] gigimon: http
[00:29:50] xa4a: а если там хттпс?
[00:30:07] gigimon: где там?
[00:30:20] gigimon: ну на сервере http, я https не делал
[00:30:53] xa4a: а..
[00:31:16] sevenov: http://sevenov.info/static/uploads/28a2e0278591d9d665c177d6e315b0bf.png
[00:31:36] gigimon: как то ужасненько
[00:32:00] xa4a: шрифт уродский, по-моему
[00:32:10] xa4a: в редакторе
[00:32:14] sevenov: да, шрифт у меня везде Terminus
[00:32:18] gigimon: xa4a: так чего сделать надо ?
[00:32:23] xa4a: открой для себя Consolas :)
[00:32:28] xa4a: gigimon: не знаю :)
[00:32:32] sevenov: О! Только что открыл :)
[00:32:37] sevenov: где брать?
[00:32:37] xa4a: я бы пошёл в гугл уже
[00:32:48] xa4a: или не. сначала бы пиранью разбудил бы )
[00:33:13] gigimon: гг
[00:33:40] xa4a: sevenov: http://xa4a.org.ua/fonts/
[00:33:47] sevenov: Охохо. Пиранья сеня на винде, так что для него щас и терминус будет сказкой :)
[00:33:53] Лис: гыы
на торрентах выложили
Танк Т34 -руководство по ремонту и эксплуатации [1944/Русский] [Science & Technics]
[00:34:01] gigimon: пираныча нема
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[00:34:14] gigimon: Лис: я думаю это каждый должен иметь в библиотеке
[00:34:17] sevenov: xa4a, tar.gz? ;)
[00:34:32] sevenov: Лис, эх, в бумаге бы :)
[00:34:46] Лис: дакраспечатай :)
[00:35:09] sevenov: Лис, нене, в оигинале. Забить косячек и скурить >_>
[00:35:11] xa4a: sevenov: xa4a.org.ua/fonts.tar.bz2
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[00:35:19] Лис: sevenov, :D
[00:35:21] Лис: :DDDD
[00:36:28] sevenov: Лис, а то бумага "Снежинка" не очень-то курится
[00:36:36] sevenov: или как там ее? Снегурочка?
[00:36:55] sevenov: xa4a, гуд, ща заценим-с )
[00:37:01] xa4a: стянул уже?
[00:37:07] Лис: я хз, у меня в офисе принтер такой, что его cups не хавает %)
соответственно я и не печатаю
[00:38:00] xa4a: Лис: как, у тебя принтер, а ты не заставил cups его хавать? О.о
[00:38:12] xa4a: я бы не выдержал сидеть с таким принтером)
[00:38:19] Лис: да не
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[00:38:24] Лис: он не ко мне прицеплен
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[00:40:45] sevenov: xa4a, ога
[00:40:54] xa4a: всё-таки symbian > win mobile
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[00:42:17] gigimon: все
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[00:42:19] gigimon: решил вопрос
[00:42:36] gigimon: надо было ключик в .hgrc указать
[00:42:57] xa4a: ключик?
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[00:43:17] xa4a: а.. ключи
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[00:43:17] gigimon: параметр*
[00:43:18] gigimon: [web]
push_ssl = false
[00:43:22] xa4a: а..
[00:43:35] gigimon: ну хз как по другому назвать
[00:43:38] gigimon: параметр, опция)
[00:43:43] xa4a: ясно
[00:43:56] gigimon: о
[00:43:58] joes: хз
[00:44:03] gigimon: я незнаю что есть -d у hg serve
[00:44:05] joes: у меня https из под винды отлично ходит
[00:44:14] gigimon: хз, у меня чет бок
[00:44:17] joes: правда я апачем и wsgi поднимал
[00:44:18] gigimon: и ssh не ходит
[00:44:20] gigimon: незнаю почему
[00:44:21] joes: с сертификатом
[00:44:27] gigimon: вот вот )
[00:44:31] Typhon: xa4a, а консолас русские буквы не показывает, да?
[00:44:37] gigimon: я вот нехнаю почему через ssh не пашет :(
[00:44:44] gigimon: на прошлой винде пахало
[00:44:45] xa4a: Typhon: показывает
[00:44:53] Typhon: о
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[00:50:07] xa4a: Typhon: http://xa4a.org.ua/scr.png
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[00:54:59] Лис: хахаха
[00:55:01] Лис: Новый троян (win32.QIP.Infium) крадет пароли к аккаунтам icq.
[00:55:02] Лис: :D
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[13:42:37] gigimon: дня всем
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[13:59:57] joes: дня
[14:00:01] joes: вопросик, джанга
[14:00:17] joes: есть форма, в ней есть поле, ChoiceField
[14:00:22] joes: кормится из модели
[14:00:30] joes: есть шаблончик для формы
[14:00:40] joes: хочется показывать сообщение если в choices ничего нет.
[14:00:55] joes: по дефолту джанга вставляет <ul> </ul>
[14:01:01] joes: так что {% if ... %} не катит
[14:01:13] joes: два запроса делать не хочется
[14:01:22] joes: типа в форме посмотреть скока там вариантов есть
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[16:54:16] pit: http://zwm.biz/archives/3 зацени народ 3 фотку :))
[16:54:20] pit: прива
[16:55:53] red-agent: этому _боянищу_ уже хз сколько времени.
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[16:57:48] Лис: [:||||/\||:]
[16:59:20] A2K is now online
[16:59:26] A2K: так вот
[16:59:36] A2K: мне нужно IDE, где будет автокомплит QT
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[17:00:00] red-agent: eclipse?
[17:00:05] red-agent: c CDT
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[17:00:54] A2K: нет, кути он не умеет. или я не нашел где настроить?
[17:01:17] red-agent: он умеет все, хидеры чего ты ему скормишь
[17:01:37] red-agent: какая разница, кути, гтк+ или васяпупкинмегапрога?
[17:02:09] A2K: не знаю. все модули автокомплитит кроме кутишных...
[17:02:37] red-agent: может не успел просто заиндексировать хидеры
[17:02:42] red-agent: их там много и они большые
[17:04:18] A2K: для С++ автокомплит кути там работает
[17:04:24] A2K: но мне хотелось бы и для питона
[17:05:36] red-agent: так ты про PyQT.
[17:05:41] a1fred is now offline
[17:05:42] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[17:05:43] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[17:05:56] A2K: иначе я бы наверное спросил где-нибудь на другом канале
[17:05:57] Лис: ещё раз, как называется технология когда http соединение инициируется сервером?
[17:06:07] Лис: http push этот
[17:06:14] Лис: то ли орбит, то ли шо то в этом роде
[17:08:01] A2K: я так понимаю, с pyqt всё по-другому, так как просто нету сишных заголовсков
[17:08:49] Лис: comet! эта херня называется
[17:09:40] A2K: у wingide неплохо получается кути автокомплитить. даже документацию к каждому методы показывает. но.. какое-то оно некрасивое
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[23:00:47] pit: народ скажите честно я тупой .. я вот использую модули пишу скрипты , а мне всё же кажется что я нихрена не знаю о питоне
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[23:04:37] Лис: pit, -1 тупой вопрос ;)
[23:04:39] A2K: ох нифига себе... уже чтобы тебе сказали что ты тупой, приходится просить... общество эволюционирует...
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[23:12:52] xa4a: http://www.dz.ru/solutions/phantom/
[23:14:37] pit: :)
[23:14:49] pit: http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=24305#p24305
[23:14:59] pit: я тут немногоотписал
[23:15:14] pit: просто реально уже крыша едет
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[23:17:09] red-agent: pit, так оно и есть.
[23:17:23] red-agent: толку-то, что ты пишешь? ты как писал быдлокод так и пишешь ;)
[23:17:33] sevenov is now online
[23:17:36] pit: полюбому .. я разговариваю с компом :)
[23:18:00] Typhon: "Прирост производительности от простого перехода в разработке ПО от языка программирования C++ на языки Java и C# оценивается экспертами в 500 %"
[23:18:06] Лис: таки шо? кто у нас юзал orbited?
[23:18:07] pit: так я просто не знаю кк с этим бороться то
[23:18:55] red-agent: Typhon, тут очевидно под производительность имелось ввиду не тайминги за которые отрабатывает решение, а производительность в разработке и поддержке.
[23:19:18] Typhon: ну я понял, но пицот процентов?
[23:19:42] pit: red-agent: да просто я не знаю кк переход то нормальный сделать .. а то меня самого начинает мой быдлокод напрягать
[23:19:50] red-agent: Typhon, всего в 5 раз.
[23:19:57] red-agent: вполне реально.
[23:20:00] Лис is now away
[23:20:18] sevenov: >A: Невозможно конкурировать с Windows, повторяя её. Невозможно конкурировать с Windows, создавая функционально более слабую систему, такую, как Linux.
[23:20:28] pit: red-agent: выпить йаду не принимается :))))
[23:20:29] red-agent: pit, ты его не сделаешь, пока сам не захочешь научится чему-то новому, или хотябы писать slighlty less crapy code.
[23:20:44] Typhon: я встречал цифры, что типа если на 50 процентов, то чуть ли не серебряная пуля.
[23:20:48] Typhon: ща поищу источники
[23:21:24] red-agent: ты про теорию относительности слышал? :)
[23:21:39] pit: энштейна ?
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[23:22:07] red-agent: Э*й*нштейна...
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[23:22:22] red-agent: И нет, то, что он её сформулировал - это не значит, что она его...
[23:22:25] red-agent: я говорю про ОТО.
[23:23:03] pit: про то что ночь с горячей кросоткой может показаться мгновением, а горячая сковородка на сикунду продлиться вечность :)))
[23:23:48] red-agent: Лис, я когда слышу про orbit у меня сразу вспылавет CORBA.
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[23:25:49] pit: red-agent: slightly less crapy code разясни... я не догоняю
[23:26:09] pit: не на столько ....
[23:26:13] pit: что
[23:26:13] red-agent: какое из слов тебе не понятно?
[23:26:28] pit: crapy
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[23:26:35] red-agent: дерьмовый
[23:26:40] red-agent: от слова crap - дерьмо
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[23:26:45] pit: gjyznyj
[23:26:49] pit: понятно
[23:27:03] red-agent: в этом твоя проблема.
[23:27:15] pit: индийский код
[23:27:19] pit: :))))
[23:27:20] red-agent: нет. ты вместо того, чтобы заюзать словарь - начинаешь спрашивать в конференция.
[23:27:25] red-agent: *и
[23:27:40] red-agent: по-этому у тебя и код такой
[23:27:45] pit: гдеб найти нормальный словарик
[23:27:50] red-agent: вот.
[23:27:58] pit: :) учебник дело то хорошее
[23:27:59] red-agent: вместо того, чтобы погуглить - ты опять спрашиваешь.
[23:28:21] pit: у меня есть словарик .. только я во французком
[23:28:32] pit: 0
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[23:28:53] pit: ладно туплю счя порыскаю
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[23:29:59] pit: red-agent: спасибо
[23:31:40] pit: red-agent: http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Python/The-Dictionary-Python-Object-Type/ оно ?
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[23:34:15] pit: !google ISBN: 0596513984 ownload
[23:34:38] pit: !google ISBN: 0596513984 download
[23:35:01] xa4a: multitran.ru
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[23:41:58] pit: xa4a: ут есть ?
[23:42:19] xa4a: ут?
[23:42:31] xa4a: есть немного уг
[23:42:36] sevenov: xa4a, ут - мужской пол утки )
[23:43:18] xa4a: ут есть не хочу
[23:43:20] xa4a: хочу спать
[23:43:22] pit: ну всё покатило :)))
[23:43:38] pit: я просто словарик пытаюсь нарыть
[23:44:09] sevenov: pit, зачем тебе словарик? итак вроде говоришь
[23:44:19] pit: Python Quick Reference Card - на форуме есть .. только он не помогает
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[23:44:44] Typhon: чего тебе надо то?
[23:45:00] pit: что то вроде ISBN: 0596513984
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[23:45:18] pit: The Dictionary Python Object Type
[23:45:33] Typhon: не знаю что это, скажи словами
[23:45:35] pit: если есть на русском еще лудще
[23:46:11] pit: The Dictionary Python Object Type
[23:46:15] pit: книжка
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[23:46:32] pit: хотя это сложно назвать книжкой
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[23:47:07] pit: Typhon: такое видел ? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596513984?ie=UTF8&tag=develshedinc-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0596513984
[23:47:20] sevenov: pit, че тебе надо?
[23:47:50] pit: типа питон для чайников :))))
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[23:48:02] sevenov: pit, tutorial
[23:48:13] pit: туториал уже читанул :)
[23:48:15] xa4a: pit
[23:48:18] sevenov: tutorial
[23:48:19] sevenov: tutorial
[23:48:21] sevenov: tutorial
[23:48:23] sevenov: tutorial
[23:48:24] xa4a: ты о гугле слышал?.
[23:48:29] xa4a: http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Python/The-Dictionary-Python-Object-Type/
[23:48:30] pit: :)
[23:48:34] xa4a: это не смешно
[23:48:48] pit: я там был
[23:49:15] xa4a: ты выше написал,_что ты это изешь
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[23:49:42] pit: ну так мне пдф надо
[23:49:52] pit: PDF
[23:50:05] pit: чтоб на компе читать
[23:50:09] Typhon: на python.su она даже есть же
[23:50:15] Typhon: емнип
[23:50:31] pit: счя в литературке ковыряюсь
[23:50:47] Effgen is now Задница это универсальный интерфейс, ибо все через нее можно сделать ВСЕ!
[23:51:19] xa4a: по-моему кто-то из присутствующих здесь упоротый. т.к. это могу быть и я, я удалюсь лучше спать.
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[23:52:05] sevenov: Щорт! Тыкнул рандомно на статью и что я там увидел?
[23:52:14] sevenov: Отсутствие типографики
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[23:53:29] Лис: red-agent, а чо так?
[23:53:48] Typhon: pit, http://www.sendspace.com/file/dg26gy и свали уже читать
[23:53:49] Лис: орбитед это всего лишь софт, сама технология comet называется
[23:54:11] pit: Typhon: убежал с радостным видом :)))
[23:54:41] sevenov: Лис, хыхы. Ну прям Тёти Аси не хватает
[23:55:18] Лис: ыы
[23:55:29] sevenov: так, все
[23:55:30] sevenov: меня нет
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