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[00:04:38] gigimon: неужели поднялся жаббер.ру
[00:04:46] gigimon: wiz: дамп видел, как работать потом нет
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[00:30:08] gigimon: http://dumpz.org/5666/
[00:30:14] gigimon: помогите сократить число запросов
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[01:22:07] xa4a: gigimon: напиши руками один sql
[01:22:35] xa4a: а вообще не
[01:22:42] xa4a: тут можно aggregates, наверна
[01:22:54] gigimon: почитаю
[01:22:56] xa4a: хотя не уверен
[01:23:07] gigimon: а вот про обновление, что выше было, наверно легче будет й запрос ручками написать
[01:23:15] gigimon: хотя он будет огромен )
[01:23:17] xa4a: ручками sql точно один запрос
[01:23:32] gigimon: угу
[01:23:33] xa4a: нуэ.. джанга тоже запросы генерит не маленькие, обычно
[01:23:49] gigimon: ладно,завтра узнаю, когда народа побольше будет
[01:23:56] gigimon: ручками запрос не хочется =(
[01:23:59] gigimon: хотя придется
[01:24:18] gigimon: сегодня посмотрел на труд своей работы и ужаснулся))
[01:24:35] gigimon: надо столько переписываьть нормальнее
[01:24:41] gigimon: а то запросов просто тьма
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[05:06:15] zul: господа. на чем щас гуй модно писать?
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[08:30:13] лорд Морфий: привет усем
[08:30:23] лорд Морфий: никто случаем django-cms не юзает ???
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[08:40:20] лорд Морфий: меня вообче интересует, как в cms использовать другие модели ??? те я создаю свой app, и там есть свои таблицы, как их (напрмер) использовать в шаблоне ???
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[09:31:30] bergamot: помню где-то видел или в доках, или в блогах статейку про использование моделей ORM вне джанго... где искать не подскажете?
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[09:37:59] xa4a: про SqlAlchemy?
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[09:40:04] bergamot: нет
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[09:40:19] xa4a: хм
[09:40:27] bergamot: но если если есть про алхимию и джанго - тоже можно
[09:40:37] xa4a: а какие проблемы их использовать?
[09:40:43] sevenov: bergamot, джанговские чтоль модели без джанги?
[09:41:00] bergamot: да
[09:41:01] xa4a: установил DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE, import django и вперёд!
[09:41:18] sevenov: угу
[09:41:29] bergamot: ну я в принципе представляю, что там всё должно как обычно работать, но помню что-то по теме видел
[09:42:01] xa4a: а
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[11:03:33] mishok13: http://code.google.com/p/pyvk-t/source/browse/trunk/pyvk-t.py
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[11:08:25] nmk: я кстати код на мобилке смотрел, когда на толчке сдиел
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[11:08:34] nmk: как-то мне не очень понравился ;)
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[11:09:06] nmk: там эксепшены от urllibа не ловятся вроде
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[11:10:38] Большой Лис: http://clubs.ya.ru/4611686018427387948/replies.xml?item_no=6681&ncrnd=8814
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[11:14:30] sevenov: http://www.lastfm.ru/music/%D0%9E%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5
[11:14:59] sevenov: mishok13, теперь зомбе придут и в джабер?
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[11:15:44] Effgen is now Задница это универсальный интерфейс, ибо все через нее можно сделать ВСЕ!
[11:17:52] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:18:04] mishok13: ты на код смотри
[11:18:44] mishok13: там аж два (!) except'а на весь код
[11:20:14] A2K is now xa
[11:21:05] k0sh is now online
[11:21:52] sevenov: mishok13, ну а что ты хотел от человека, который пишет для Вконтакта транспорт?
[11:22:21] sevenov: бля, пиздец.
[11:22:25] sevenov: /me посмотрел в код
[11:22:48] sevenov: между функциями нет отступов - сразу бросилось
[11:22:56] sevenov: дальше не хочу как-то рассматривать
[11:23:15] k0sh: подскажите начинающему как с помощью django шаблонов вывести i-ый элемент списка?
[11:23:39] k0sh: вариант my_list.forloop.counter0 не работает
[11:24:19] Большой Лис: k0sh, my_list.10
[11:25:08] k0sh: Большой Лис: мне нужно в цикле
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[11:26:20] k0sh: мне нужно в цикле
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[11:26:51] Большой Лис: жабир.орг обвалился?
[11:26:55] Большой Лис: или гмаил?
[11:27:01] Effgen is now Задница это универсальный интерфейс, ибо все через нее можно сделать ВСЕ!
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[11:30:32] k0sh: блин, джебберу.ру
[11:30:41] Typhon is now online
[11:31:44] Typhon: for
Тег {% for %} позволяет циклически обрабатывать элементы последовательности. Аналогично оператору for в языке Python, синтаксис таков — for X in Y, где Y является последовательностью, а X — именем переменной, которая последовательно принимает значение каждого элемента последовательности. На каждую итерацию шаблонная система обрабатывает всё между тегами {% for %} и {% endfor %}.
[11:31:47] k0sh is now online
[11:31:48] k0sh: например, {% for i in other_list %} {{ my_list.forloop.counter0 }} {% endfor %}
[11:32:08] Большой Лис: k0sh, тебе индекс нужен или что?
[11:32:13] Большой Лис: объясни нормально задачу
[11:32:14] Typhon: а, ну так
[11:32:24] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:32:25] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:32:42] k0sh is now online
[11:33:14] k0sh: есть два списка, по одному я прохожу в цикле, а ко второму хотелось бы получить доступ по индексу
[11:33:18] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[11:33:19] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[11:33:45] azzz is now online
[11:34:04] k0sh: внутри этого цикла, и к соответствующему элементу списка
[11:34:37] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:34:51] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:34:51] k0sh: кто-нибудь понял о чём я говорю?
[11:34:53] Typhon: м, во вьюхе сзиповать два списка?
[11:35:16] A2K is now xa
[11:36:01] k0sh: Typhon: т.е. такой возможности нет? придется объединять списки
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[11:36:50] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[11:37:13] Effgen is now Задница это универсальный интерфейс, ибо все через нее можно сделать ВСЕ!
[11:37:13] Typhon: k0sh: ты какую-то логику представление выносишь, по-моему
[11:38:34] Большой Лис: угу
[11:38:50] Большой Лис: k0sh, в крайнем случае напиши свой тег
[11:39:30] k0sh: Typhon, Большой Лис понял, спасибо
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[12:00:06] Effgen is now Задница это универсальный интерфейс, ибо все через нее можно сделать ВСЕ!
[12:00:16] A2K is now xa
[12:02:16] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
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[12:24:50] MAVr is now Да, я тут
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[12:54:37] Nirdosh is now Ура! У меня новый Psi+, нашел на http://psi-dev.googlecode.com/
[12:55:18] A2K is now xa
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[13:00:24] Effgen is now Задница это универсальный интерфейс, ибо все через нее можно сделать ВСЕ!
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[13:03:50] Effgen is now Задница это универсальный интерфейс, ибо все через нее можно сделать ВСЕ!
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[13:05:30] sevenov: Гномоводы есть?
[13:06:51] slav0nic: местами
[13:07:29] poltergeist is now xa
[13:07:52] sevenov: реально переключать воркспейсф хоткеями? Типа <Mod>+1..9
[13:08:19] Большой Лис: C-M-стрелки
[13:08:37] sevenov: А то я пока до 9го добераюсь, Ctrl+Alt+Arrow нажимаю 8 раз - это не дело
[13:08:37] poltergeist is now xa
[13:08:51] Большой Лис: выставь в 2 ряда :)
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[13:09:24] sevenov: Тогда лучше 3x3 :)
[13:09:28] sevenov: А так вообще можно?
[13:09:31] Большой Лис: sevenov, gnome-keybinding-properties
[13:09:55] sevenov: ага, спасиб. Ща потыкаем-с
[13:10:19] A2K is now xa
[13:10:32] sevenov: о, круто. Там есть такое
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[13:11:21] Большой Лис: у меня 3х3
[13:12:40] renyare: че у вас запущено там? Мне 2 десктопов выше крыши
[13:13:05] Большой Лис: пытаемся эмулировать тайлинг менеджеры :)
[13:13:16] Большой Лис: каждая программа на всю ширину развёрнута
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[13:13:56] sevenov: Большой Лис, ога. Когда под рукой нет талинга, хоть так натыкать. Нет возможности воткнуть свое )
[13:13:57] bergamot is now online
[13:14:11] wiz is now ラボタユ
[13:14:17] sevenov: осталось terminator поставить
[13:14:20] Большой Лис: а меня сташнило от xmonad-а
[13:14:37] Большой Лис: и теперь только при мысли о нём, рвотный рефлекс
[13:15:19] A2K is now xa
[13:15:22] sevenov: Хуя ты злюка %)
[13:16:04] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[13:16:15] Большой Лис: да не, просто субъективное мнение
[13:16:17] Большой Лис: :)
[13:16:36] Большой Лис: а awesome я не пытался
[13:16:41] Большой Лис: ибо атм конфиг - lua
[13:16:49] wiz: "буа"
[13:17:20] sevenov: луа не понравился?
[13:17:32] wiz: питонисту? луа? понравился? (((=
[13:17:45] wiz: это же наш расовый враг!
[13:17:51] Большой Лис: %)
[13:18:11] sevenov: wiz, схуябы? Есть что-то общее.
[13:18:23] wiz: Lua не нужен
[13:18:24] bbodio: это все холивары.
[13:18:29] sevenov: http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/
>If you are running Debian sid then you should find the latest version, although it may be slightly behind the current release.
ппц. У меня sid и я кагбэ не вижу никаких терминаторов
[13:19:20] bergamot: терминатор вещь
[13:19:23] Большой Лис: [kron ~]$ aptitude show terminator
Пакет: terminator
Новый: да
Состояние: не установлен
Версия: 0.9-1.1
Приоритет: необязательный
Раздел: misc
Сопровождающий: Nicolas Valcárcel <nvalcarcel@gmail.com>
Размер в распакованном виде: 864k
Зависимости: python, python-central (>= 0.6.7), python-vte, python-gnome2, gconf2
Рекомендуются: xdg-utils, python-xdg
Описание: Multiple GNOME terminals in one window
Terminator is a little project to produce an efficient way of filling a large area of screen space
with terminals.

The user can have multiple terminals in one window and use keybindings to switch between them. See
the manpage for details.
Сайт: http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/

[kron ~]$
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[13:20:19] slav0nic: топ-100 рамблера никто не юзает?
[13:20:22] sevenov: надо было update
[13:20:26] sevenov: хз че такое было
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[13:42:18] gigimon: привет всем
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[15:27:23] Большой Лис: MyModel.objects.get у нас ведь не ленивый
[15:27:24] Большой Лис: ага?
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[15:36:41] wiz is now ラボタユ
[15:37:25] wiz: нет конечно
[15:38:03] generatorglukoff is now online
[15:38:37] Alternativshik is now online
[15:39:59] Большой Лис: а допустим я получаю инстанс из базы, и после этого переключаю коннект на другую БД, и потом вызову save(force_insert=True)
[15:40:10] Большой Лис: ведь это отработает нормально?
[15:40:17] wiz: попробуй
[15:40:21] wiz: и нам расскажешь (=
[15:40:24] Большой Лис: %)
[15:40:24] A2K is now xa
[15:41:20] Большой Лис: pk могут пересечься :(
[15:41:26] Большой Лис: id-шники в смысле
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[15:43:05] wiz: база не позволит
[15:43:10] Большой Лис: ну я понимаю
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[15:59:24] Большой Лис: pk = None FTW!
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[16:19:50] mak_sim: Здравствуйте!
[16:20:14] sevenov: mak_sim, здравствуй
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[16:21:56] mak_sim: У меня такое дело. Я пишу джаббер клиент на питоне (xmpppy)
Порекомендуйте, пожалуйста, как формировать ростер..
То есть, как загружать контакт в нужную группу в TreeView
[16:22:23] mak_sim: Как хранить в проге соответствие ника в ростере и jid
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[16:24:20] wiz: from gajim import main
main()
[16:24:44] mak_sim: не =) такой рассклад не интересует =)
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[16:26:11] sevenov: mak_sim, это не актуально
[16:26:27] mak_sim: в смысле писать клиент?
[16:26:30] sevenov: да
[16:26:47] mak_sim: нет предела совершенству...
[16:27:01] sevenov: ты больше похож на спамера, который пишет софт для рассылки спама :-))))
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[16:27:23] mak_sim: ой... да чтоб спам рассылать не нужен GUI и ростер :)
[16:27:28] wiz: это как с танцами и караоке - всем кажется, что они умеют, но лучше бы они не начинали..
[16:27:40] sevenov: да...
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[16:29:19] wiz: напиши лучше софт для форекса - а то что-то кризис не особо проявлен пока
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[16:30:03] mak_sim: хе, чтоб писать софт под форекс, нужно хорошо быть в теме..
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[16:31:37] nmk: что бы писать жаббер клиент надо тоже хорошо быть в теме
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[16:33:45] sevenov: nmk, причем, что в теме python, что в теме gui и что в теме xmpp
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[16:33:59] mak_sim: как минимум для жабров есть либа. ну и опыт работы с джаббером, желание работать с ним намного больше, чем с форексом
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[16:37:44] wiz: а посоветуйте что-нибудь интересное почитать в дороге на ебуке...
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[16:38:50] nmk: wiz: похороните меня за плинтусом ;)
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[16:45:56] Yustos: wiz: кстати, о боте для жданги http://jannisleidel.com/2008/02/a-pownce-jabber-bot-with-django-backend/
[16:46:09] Yustos: Жаль только что http://code.google.com/p/pownce-jabber-bot/ в 403
[16:46:21] wiz: = проект удалён
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[16:46:39] Yustos: wiz: а жалко
[16:46:43] wiz: ну вообще это не сложно там
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[16:46:56] sevenov: Да че ж все так по ботам-то летят, а?
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[16:47:00] wiz: я тут вообще подумал о том, чтобы "моск" бота хранить в CouchDB
[16:47:03] Yustos: wiz: да у меня как-то совсем host-gone с xmpppy
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[16:51:05] wiz: попробуй twisted-words
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[16:51:57] slav0nic: фу
[16:52:04] slav0nic: там куёня для джаббера, вроде бы
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[17:10:30] sevenov: slav0nic'a похоже трясти начинает от слова twisted :)
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[17:10:53] slav0nic: не, но для джаббера его не осветовали
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[17:17:47] xa4a: wiz: это баян)
[17:17:52] xa4a: про couchdb)
[17:21:24] Yustos: wiz: а про twisted-words - таки да, буду разбирать детальнее
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[17:22:43] sevenov: xa4a, а писать блог - это не боян? :-)
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[17:46:28] slav0nic: какой там ещё был сайт типа djangogigs?
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[17:58:15] sevenov: щорт
[17:58:43] sevenov: /me думает как делать дамп из mysql 4 через mysqldump 5
[17:58:49] sevenov: оно не пашет
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[17:59:43] xa4a: взять mysqldump из mysql4
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[18:02:07] sevenov: хм. Тогда мен нужен бинарник mysqldump 4 для i386. Никто не поделится? Если есть :-)
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[18:02:21] xa4a: ща, только слинкую с руткитом..
[18:02:37] sevenov: :-)
[18:02:46] xa4a: :)
[18:02:48] xa4a: из пакетов бери
[18:02:50] sevenov: я уж нашел :-)
[18:03:00] sevenov: У меня нет доступа
[18:03:09] sevenov: а, ну в общем нашел
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[19:03:04] anonymous24: так
[19:03:30] anonymous24: я не занимался веб-программированием где-то год. где бы почитать что сейчас модно использовать? ну там nginx lightpd или apache? svn или git? настройка trac и прочее?
[19:04:03] Муркт: mercurial
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[19:05:32] anonymous24: ок
(записывает меркуриал)
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[19:09:08] mishok13: не апач :)
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[19:15:38] sevenov: nginx, apache, mod_wsgi, mercurial )
[19:15:59] anonymous24: спасибо
[19:16:02] mishok13: щас очень круто клауд компьютинг, гарантирую
[19:16:27] Portnov: ботнет-компьютинг
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[19:37:43] niro|by: Есть вопрос о связке nginx+django . nginx более-менее настроен и показывает запущенный runfcgi, (т.е. тоже самое что runserver но через nginx показывает одинаково). Но, что-то упущено, поскольку скорость на ab одинакова, т.е. около 4 [request/sec]
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[20:16:40] Nirdosh is now xa
[20:17:13] A2K is now xa
[20:17:25] pleax is now online
[20:18:29] Bers: как в питоне вернуть определённый exit status? через sys.exit(), верно?
[20:18:39] bbodio: да.
[20:20:02] Bers: нужно его установить в 0, пишу sys.exit(0) , но блин программа которая его запускает, говорит, что status=1. как проверить вообще можно?
[20:21:04] Portnov is now away
[20:21:07] Bers: вторая прога точно рабочая, переписываю скрипт с перла на питон, в перле всё катит, автор там писал exit 0; для этого
[20:22:14] A2K is now xa
[20:24:21] Portnov is now online
[20:26:05] pleax is now away
[20:26:16] pleax is now online
[20:27:15] A2K is now xa
[20:27:41] Большой Лис: как там посмотреть exit код в шеле?
[20:27:45] Большой Лис: echo $чототам
[20:28:08] Bers: вот и мне интересно как
[20:28:18] Nirdosh is now Ура! У меня новый Psi+, нашел на http://psi-dev.googlecode.com/
[20:29:34] Большой Лис:
[kron ~]$ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jan 4 2009, 17:40:26)
[GCC 4.3.2] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> exit(100)
[kron ~]$ echo $?
100
[20:29:34] Большой Лис:
[kron ~]$ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jan 4 2009, 17:40:26)
[GCC 4.3.2] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>> sys.exit(200)
[kron ~]$ echo $?
200
[20:29:49] Большой Лис: Bers, ну хз что у тебя не получается
[20:29:57] Большой Лис: вот у меня всё получилось, как видишь
[20:29:59] Bers: отлично, спасибо, буду дальше копать
[20:30:06] Большой Лис: $? в шеле, это exit code
[20:30:15] Bers: угу, понял, спасибо
[20:32:14] A2K is now xa
[20:35:35] Portnov is now away
[20:35:53] Portnov is now online
[20:36:40] tilarids is now offline
[20:37:16] A2K is now xa
[20:38:01] wiz is now online
[20:38:01] wiz is now online
[20:38:02] wiz is now online
[20:38:02] wiz is now online
[20:38:02] wiz is now online
[20:38:03] wiz is now online
[20:38:44] wiz is now online
[20:39:00] Alternativshik is now online
[20:39:08] tilarids is now online
[20:42:12] niro|by is now offline
[20:42:15] wiz is now online
[20:42:17] A2K is now xa
[20:42:47] tilarids is now online
[20:42:48] tilarids is now offline
[20:42:53] niro|by is now online
[20:43:23] Bers is now away
[20:47:01] Муркт is now away
[20:47:15] wiz is now online
[20:47:17] A2K is now xa
[20:47:20] Bers is now online
[20:54:25] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:25] niro|by is now offline
[20:54:25] niro|by is now online
[20:54:25] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:41] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:41] wiz is now online
[20:54:41] A2K is now xa
[20:54:41] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:41] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:41] niro|by: Кто-нибудь использовал nginx и django ?
[20:54:42] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:42] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:42] Большой Лис: ога
[20:54:42] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:54:42] Большой Лис: и чо?
[20:54:43] Bers is now away
[20:54:53] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:55:23] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:55:53] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:56:23] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:57:31] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:57:31] wiz is now online
[20:57:31] A2K is now xa
[20:57:31] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:57:45] Effgen is now away
[20:57:54] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:58:24] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:58:54] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:59:07] bergamot is now offline
[20:59:13] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[20:59:24] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:59:54] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:59:58] Alternativshik is now offline
[21:00:24] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:00:55] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:01:25] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:01:33] niro|by is now offline
[21:01:41] niro|by is now online
[21:01:55] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:02:17] wiz is now online
[21:02:20] A2K is now xa
[21:04:02] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:04:02] niro|by: Большой Лис: nginx и джанго запущены, apache-benchamark показывает около 4 запросов в секунду
[21:04:02] tilarids is now away
[21:04:02] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:04:03] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:04:03] xa4a is now online
[21:04:03] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[21:04:03] tilarids is now online