[00:00:01] xa4a: gigimon: не ты?
[00:00:08] xa4a: нет .update, вроде
[00:00:16] piranha: а?
[00:00:26] piranha: User.objects.update(is_superuser=True)
[00:00:26] generatorglukoff: гм
[00:00:38] generatorglukoff: и почему это на джангосайте не документированно
[00:00:40] piranha: в доках же есть ;)
[00:00:45] piranha: да ну?
[00:01:11] piranha: лол
[00:01:17] piranha: generatorglukoff: сделай поиск по .update ;-)
[00:01:29] piranha: на страничке про queryset method
[00:01:30] piranha: *methods
[00:01:48] piranha: мдя, кто-то завтыкал доку исправить :)
[00:03:24] generatorglukoff: гм
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[00:04:48] generatorglukoff: piranha: поиск не помог
[00:04:53] generatorglukoff: а вот чтение сырцов
[00:04:58] piranha: гмм
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[00:05:10] piranha: у меня в доке (сбилженной локально) есть одно упоминание .update :-)
[00:05:18] piranha: в описании get_or_create ;-))
[00:05:39] xa4a: ха
[00:05:41] xa4a: спалились!
[00:05:48] piranha: та да
[00:05:49] piranha: =)
[00:05:57] xa4a: наисать багрепорт
[00:06:03] xa4a: что про .update упоминули)
[00:06:13] xa4a: *мя
[00:06:21] piranha: =)
[00:06:28] piranha: мля
[00:06:33] piranha: формсеты - это такой писдец
[00:06:42] piranha: все ок, но save не выполняется для каждой отдельной формы
[00:06:44] piranha: почему? :(
[00:06:49] piranha: пойду-ка я посплю
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[10:19:02] pitman: привет всем. Как более правильно перевести название директивы crawl-delay в i18n?
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[10:21:46] pit: если судить по музыки то дилей это кк волна_повторений
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[10:21:57] pit: а кравл :)
[10:22:02] pitman: ага
[10:22:18] pitman: нужно емкое название :-)
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[10:25:42] pit: хм давай кроль_на_волне
[10:26:01] pit: или размножатель
[10:26:10] pit: :))))
[10:26:41] pitman: :-)))
[10:27:11] pitman: тормозная жидкость для паука :-))) А если серьезно?
[10:27:58] pit: скачкообразные_повторения_волн что то вроде этого
[10:28:35] pitman: чето мне трудно после этого как-то со смыслом директивы связать
[10:28:39] pit: кравл можно правдо еще перевести кк """ползти"""
[10:28:44] pitman: как это связано с поисковиком?
[10:28:56] pit: crawl-delay
[10:29:18] pitman: crawl-delay - это директива для поискового робота
[10:29:42] pit: тогда я лох :) не понял вопроса :)
[10:29:48] pitman: типа как часто может индексировать твои html-ки
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[10:32:39] pitman: да
[10:32:44] pitman: наверное так и напишу
[10:33:41] pit: """волновые_скачки"""
[10:33:55] pit: я просто перевёл кк машина :)))
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[11:22:35] k0sh: Кто-нибудь знает как отпарсить XHTML стандартными средствами питона?
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[11:23:28] k0sh: пробовал from xml.dom.ext.reader import [HtmlLib, Sax2 ]

[11:23:46] mishok13: кахэм, HTMLParser?
[11:23:53] mishok13: если стандартными средствами
[11:24:51] mishok13: а так -- beautifulsoup
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[11:38:45] mishok13: http://ko-online.com.ua/node/41251
[11:39:00] mishok13: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/80bo2/microsoft_sues_tomtom_over_linux_and_other_patent/
[11:39:08] mishok13: что ж за день такой-то сегодня
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[11:43:34] mishok13: """
How many Prolog programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?
false.
"""
[11:43:38] mishok13: ыыххыххых
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[12:04:43] Nirdosh is now Ура! У меня новый Psi+, нашел на http://psi-dev.googlecode.com/
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[12:11:59] wiz: что-нибудь есть кошероного кроме django-mptt для иерархий?
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[12:14:24] slav0nic: напомните в какой методе модели реквест выбрать при сейве
[12:14:40] wiz: slav0nic, чочо?
[12:14:42] Большой Лис: wiz, django-treebeard
[12:15:02] Большой Лис: slav0nic, какой риквест?
[12:15:08] slav0nic: wiz, при сейве через админку
[12:15:29] slav0nic: лан уже вспомнил де рыть
[12:15:33] wiz: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/admin/
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[12:15:56] wiz: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/admin/#save-model-self-request-obj-form-change
[12:16:17] slav0nic: пасиб, да я затупил сначала) думал в додели pre_save
[12:16:21] wiz: get_urls(self)¶ New in Django 1.1.

The get_urls method on a ModelAdmin returns the URLs to be used for that ModelAdmin in the same way as a URLconf.
[12:16:25] wiz: а это ещё чочо за хуита?
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[12:28:34] Большой Лис: функция - 274 строк %)
[12:28:42] Большой Лис: /me пошёл убивать себя
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[12:35:56] Большой Лис: и как блйа уменьшать, не понятно
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[13:09:01] rahs: всем привет
[13:10:49] A2K is now xa
[13:11:06] rahs: вопрос по django-cms: никак не могу заставить его подцеплять вместо дефолтного мой шаблон. В settings.py
CMS_DEFAULT_TEMPLATE = "cms_base.html"
и никакой реакции...
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[13:15:18] wiz: а сервер рестартнул? (=
[13:15:32] rahs: wiz, обижаешь :)
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[13:15:47] rahs: я уже почти час вокруг него прыгаю
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[13:20:14] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[13:20:48] A2K is now xa
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[13:24:00] rahs: и еще вот засада: если страницу форматирую в HTML'е, то работает нормально. А если markdown'ом - пытается выгрести ее на всех возможных языках, запросов к базе идет вместо 10 - 900
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[13:31:54] bergamot: у меня formset, если заполнить для формы одно поле - он форму проверяет, если же большая часть форм пустая - formset валидный. Как бы это исправить?
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[13:50:50] Joes: bergamot: extra стоит?
[13:51:10] Joes: оно скипает пустые формы.
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[13:52:36] bergamot: extra=22
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[13:53:39] Joes: ну вот и скипает.
[13:53:55] Joes: extra - необязательные формы.
[13:53:58] Joes: нет данных - нет формы.
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[13:56:01] bergamot: а как тогда сделать несколько изначально пустых необязательных форм?
[13:56:09] bergamot: тьфу
[13:56:11] bergamot: обязательныъх
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[13:57:29] brylinks is now гугля. Умом Россию не понять,
пока не выпито ноль пять,
а если выпито ноль пять,
то дело кажется не хитрым,
попытка глубже понимать
уже попахивает литром....
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[14:03:09] Joes: попробуй initial
[14:03:34] Joes: стоп
[14:03:35] Joes: не то.
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[14:04:41] Joes: я руками вклинивался.
[14:04:52] Joes: наследовался и правил clean()
[14:05:08] Joes: там уже и проверял.
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[14:05:22] piranha: да, иначе никак
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[14:05:24] piranha: min_num нету
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[14:05:32] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
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[14:11:43] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
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[14:16:52] slav0nic: мде, добавил поле в таблицу и постгрес повис=\
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[14:17:12] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
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[14:21:20] bergamot: сделал через наследование форм. работает, но чувствую как-то не правильно
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[14:37:19] bergamot: удалил наследование и сделал проще:
if formset.is_valid():
for form in formset.forms:
if len(form.cleaned_data) < 1:
error = True
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[14:44:37] Joes: кстати наследование вполне себе документированная возможность
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[14:44:55] Joes: но если оно только 1 раз надо, то может так и проще
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[16:35:23] gigimon: привет народ
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[17:21:38] telenga: привет всем! подскажите, почему конструкция a = open(textfile)
words = re.findall("[а-я]+", a.read().lower())
a.close() не работает как надо - обрезает слова до нескольких букв?
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[17:25:16] telenga: с латиницей всё хорошо, а вот с кириллицей...
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[17:26:23] mishok13: небось, танцы с юникодом и кодировками
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[17:27:25] mishok13: кодировка, наверное, koi8r
[17:27:49] telenga: да нет, всё банальнее - хочу провести контент-анализ файла (тупо подсчитать частоту слов в нём)
[17:27:56] telenga: кодировка utf-8
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[17:29:53] telenga: написал функцию принудительного перекодирования в utf-8 - те же Фаберже, только в профиль
[17:30:17] piranha: почему кодировка?
[17:30:20] piranha: конвертни в unicode
[17:30:23] piranha: из строки
[17:30:28] piranha: и тогда попробуй работать
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[17:31:17] telenga: уже в utf-8
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[17:32:08] telenga: если указать unicode(...) - пишет кучу всякой фигни, только не то, что мне нужно
[17:33:33] piranha: 'utf-8 string'.decode('utf-8')
[17:33:38] piranha: utf-8 и unicode - разные вещи
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[17:34:28] Nirdosh is now Ура! У меня новый Psi+, нашел на http://psi-dev.googlecode.com/
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[17:38:54] telenga: всё-равно обрезает часть слов...
[17:39:31] mishok13: давай примеры
[17:39:39] mishok13: так мы хотя бы не будем гадать
[17:40:33] red-agent: флаг re.UNICODE
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[17:42:25] red-agent:
WORD_RE = re.compile(r'\w+', re.UNICODE)
data = fd.read()
words=[word.lower() for word in WORD_RE.findall(unicode(data, 'utf8'))]
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[17:44:20] red-agent: ну и посчитать особого труда не составит.
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[17:44:48] telenga: вот скрипт - http://paste.ubuntu.com/123384/
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[17:45:08] telenga: спасибо за подсказки, но пока ничего не получилось :)
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[17:46:38] telenga: упс, извините, теперь всё внезапно заработало :)
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[17:46:57] red-agent: ну если вместо осмысленного действия - тыкать пальцами в небо - то ничего и не получится.
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[17:48:25] telenga: я же извинился :) просто после паскаля мозг еще плохо соображает. :)
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[18:04:58] mishok13: /me обнаружил существование языка Falcon
[18:05:04] mishok13: /me пребывает в шоке
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[18:12:17] Большой Лис: mishok13, why?
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[18:12:30] mishok13: это просто ад кромешный
[18:12:35] Portnov: mishok13: скажи спасибо что не Rekam.
[18:13:04] mishok13: а это что такое?
[18:13:25] Portnov: Falcon - это бренд в студийном освещении.
[18:13:46] Portnov: а Rekam - марка всякого электронного ширпотреба
[18:13:54] Portnov: в т.ч. и освещения )
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[18:23:26] lubyagin: Где ошибка в коде - заходит на страничку PhpMyAdmin'а с авторизацией и использованием кукисов? http://upload.discrete.ru/conn.py.txt
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[18:23:59] lubyagin: Точнее, на нужную страничку со списокм баз данных _не_заходит_, а возвращается на страницу ввода логина и пароля.
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[18:24:07] Joes: ээ.. читаю сравнение фич фалкона с другими языками...
[18:24:18] Joes: Document Template.. э... часть языка?
[18:24:24] Joes: Native regular expressions - в питоне нет?
[18:24:45] Joes: Native internationalization - часть языка? :-)
[18:24:48] Joes: что за ужас?
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[18:25:07] Joes: блин, там что не фича, так перл.
[18:25:25] mishok13: ruby .. multithreading .. no
[18:25:47] mishok13: чувак просто очень гордится тем, что он в свой ЯП насовал всякой хуиты
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[18:26:04] Joes: Direct binary data access - python: no
[18:26:06] Joes: ыы
[18:26:14] lubyagin: array )
[18:27:44] mishok13: чувака видимо напрягает наличие неймспейсов
[18:27:50] mishok13: поэтому он всё в одну кучу валит
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[18:28:55] Joes: не, это ужасно.
[18:29:04] Joes: я посмотрел фичи и их описание прочитал.
[18:29:12] Joes: даже не хочу синтаксис смотреть.
[18:29:35] Муркт: а чо
[18:29:37] Муркт: я хочу
[18:29:39] Муркт: =)
[18:29:52] Муркт: Metaprogramming Python - no
[18:30:15] Муркт: хыхых
[18:30:35] Муркт: надо было ему написать "I don't know how"
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[18:31:01] Муркт: строка object oriented ваще отжигает =))
[18:31:54] mishok13: мне больше embedability понравилось
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[18:32:06] Joes: Смешались в кучу кони, люди...
[18:32:19] Муркт: mishok13: а слово-то хорошее
[18:32:42] Joes: Procedural programming: python - partial. Это типа функция за процедуру не канает, даже если ничего не возвращает? :-)
[18:32:58] lubyagin: pascal - full ))
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[18:33:39] Joes: увы, руби обделили процедурным программированием.
[18:33:51] Joes: програмированием т.е.
[18:34:04] Муркт: Joes: а как тебе functional programming - no, а ещё object-oriented - partial, на фоне-то PHP5 с его yes :D
[18:34:11] Joes: да да
[18:34:21] piranha: о чем речь?
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[18:34:28] mishok13: http://www.falconpl.org/index.ftd?page_id=facts
[18:34:36] mishok13: очень зажигательно, я так считаю
[18:35:04] Joes: там ниже абзац есть
[18:35:07] Муркт: мы все так считаем :)
[18:35:09] Joes: про object-oriented
[18:35:13] Муркт: ага
[18:35:16] Муркт: но я ещё не дошёл
[18:35:19] Joes: complete with classes, instances, inheritance, class typing (i.e. seeing classes as sort of types)
[18:35:25] Joes: вот не понимаю чего из этого списка нет в питоне.
[18:35:32] Joes: почему он partial?
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[18:36:07] Муркт: лольное
[18:36:15] Муркт: а почему php5 - yes? :D
[18:36:29] Joes: потому что в ПХП5 есть Document Template
[18:36:32] piranha: document template - это видать типа как about.php?
[18:36:35] Joes: да да
[18:36:46] Joes: типа в скрипте можешь аутпут прямо выводить
[18:36:55] piranha: наоборот
[18:37:00] Joes: в смысле оно делит скрипт на разметку и код
[18:37:01] Joes: как пхп
[18:37:03] piranha: а аутпуте можешь скрипт выполнять ;)))
[18:37:07] Joes: да да
[18:37:08] Joes: :-)
[18:37:16] piranha: а что такого короутинам добавили, что они в питон3 стали партиал?
[18:37:46] Муркт: там ниже написано
[18:37:47] piranha: и что, метапрограммирование из руби убрали?
[18:37:48] Муркт: НИЧЕГО
[18:37:50] piranha: или я что-то не то понимаю?
[18:37:55] piranha: *под этим словом
[18:38:01] Joes: ты просто воспринимай поток сознания
[18:38:04] Joes: понимать не надо :-)
[18:38:08] Муркт: метапрограммирование - compile-time evaluation
[18:38:16] Муркт: piranha: сишные макросы - метапрограммирование
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[18:38:35] Муркт: а вот метаклассы и модификация AST - нет, ибо в питоне нет compile-time
[18:38:38] Муркт: и в руби вроде ж тоже?
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[18:38:54] Муркт: вот так и получается - нет compile-time, нет и метапрограммирования!
[18:39:00] Муркт: "нет ножек - нет печенья"
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[18:39:00] piranha: у перла лайбрари huge?
[18:39:05] piranha: гм
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[18:39:16] piranha: по сравнению с питоновской - она маленькая... Мы ж о стдлиб?
[18:39:52] wiz: срань конечно побольше будет чем pypi, но там и мёртвого гамна побольше
[18:40:03] piranha: постой
[18:40:08] piranha: лайбрари - это стдлиб
[18:40:14] piranha: а не то, что доступно в инете
[18:40:19] piranha: это тогда должно быть лайбрариз
[18:40:27] piranha: а у перла стдлиб не очень большой
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[18:41:09] piranha: а, короутины - это типа стеклесс питон
[18:41:11] piranha: так ведь?
[18:41:15] piranha: лана, все эт говно
[18:41:21] piranha: FUD, а не страничка
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[18:43:34] Муркт: чувак находится under a strong influence джавы
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[18:45:06] Муркт: это видно по его документации http://www.falconpl.org/project_docs/core/_class_Stream.html
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[18:46:33] tilarids: Муркт, я не совсем согласен с твоим определением метапрограммирования
[18:46:56] Муркт: tilarids: это не моё определение
[18:47:01] Муркт: tilarids: это его определение
[18:47:05] Муркт: а я над ним просто поржал
[18:47:06] Муркт: :D
[18:47:08] tilarids: а, тю :)
[18:47:18] tilarids: я уж думал сейчас троллить буду, порадоавлся :)
[18:47:24] wiz: метапрограммирование это генерация кода в общем случае. а как это реализовано - похуй
[18:47:26] Муркт: А тут такой облом...
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[18:48:27] tilarids: ыыы, я понял над чем вы орёте
[18:49:14] Муркт: tilarids: присоединяйся ;)
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[18:49:37] tilarids: functional programming а нет в Python... погодите, а tabular programming - это не таблицы имеются в виду? А то там какое-то скромное no возле Lua стоит...
[18:50:21] Joes: :-)
[18:50:25] Joes: таблицы.
[18:50:41] Joes: там если покрутить есть описание каждого пункта
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[18:52:10] tilarids: а чувак не русский случаем? (from 0.9 - так славяне пишут :) )
[18:52:33] Муркт: tilarids: вряд ли, но слово embeddability - отличное.
[18:52:49] tilarids: эмбедебилити :)
[18:53:03] tilarids: тут два диагноза слились воедино
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[18:57:39] mishok13: """
People ask me: "With so many languages around, why start to write another one?"

The answer is stunningly simple: there wasn't any language that completely satisfied the needs I had -- needs that are basic to a professional IT consultant writing performance-critical and heavily multithreaded applications.
"""
[18:58:04] wiz: erlang learning FAIL
[18:58:38] mishok13: <any language with concurrent model> learning FAIL
[18:59:04] tilarids: <any language> learning FAIL
[18:59:05] wiz: FAILcon programming language (8
[18:59:26] mishok13: Falcon had to be written directly in C or C++
[19:00:21] mishok13: C++
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[19:02:32] mishok13: """
This is the reason I dubbed the group of people working at Falcon the Committee, and the reason why I appointed myself with the role of "president".
"""
[19:02:46] slav0nic: ))
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[19:03:17] mishok13: повелитель клитора, хыхы
[19:03:24] mishok13: простите, вырвалось
[19:04:22] red-agent: клитор повелителя.
[19:04:40] wiz: повелителя = чёрного властелина?
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[21:17:20] niro|by: [django] при кэшировании сложного шаблона, с целой кучей параметров сравнения желательно перечислять все параметры ?
[21:18:28] piranha: если ты не хочешь отхватить при изменении какого-то параметра старое значение ;)
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[21:24:19] niro|by: понятно, попробую как-нибудь составить этот cache
[21:25:04] niro|by: psyco не работает с django, вырубается сразу - IndexError: list index out of range
[21:25:32] niro|by: это только у меня так ?
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[21:27:34] niro|by: а как же тесты alrond'a ?
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[21:30:01] piranha: niro|by: хмм... ну по крайней мере для меня. :)
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[21:31:03] sunrizz: Приветсвую всех! Вопрос мой таков- где можно накопать информацию по программированию на питоне для WM устройств?
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[21:32:32] niro|by: накопать можно в гугле, искав python ce
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[21:33:34] sunrizz: сам то интерпретатор я давно нашёл, но играться в консоли сомнительное удовольтсвие
[21:33:51] niro|by: значит мегачит psyco в джанге уже не действует, увы :(
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[21:34:37] piranha: niro|by: а что, очень ускоряет? )
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[21:35:27] niro|by: piranha: http://www.alrond.com/ru/2007/jan/25/rezultaty-testirovanija-6-frameworks/
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[21:36:29] niro|by: piranha: "Psyco модуль ускоряет django на 15-30%, но за это приходится расплачиваться возросшим потреблением памяти VSZ на 80% в prefork-режиме и на 400% (!!!) в threaded-режиме. RSS потребление увеличивается в 2-2.5 раза. "
[21:36:44] piranha: гхм
[21:36:47] piranha: не вижу смысла
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[21:38:11] niro|by: в этом - 15-30 % ?
[21:38:27] tilarids: sunrizz, а что именно тебя интересует?
[21:38:31] piranha: 15-30% против хотя бы даже просто двухкратного увеличения потребления рамы
[21:38:47] piranha: niro|by: кешированием в нужном месте можно больше и проще выдавить
[21:38:54] piranha: просто найди, где узкое место...
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[21:52:37] niro|by: piranha: а какой предпочтительнее ставить ttl для тех кусков, которые при изменении удаляться из кэша ?
[21:54:34] Большой Лис: кстате, используя memcachd можно и не заниматься инвалидацией
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[21:55:20] Большой Лис: ключ делаешь model-id-updated_timestamp
[21:55:27] Большой Лис: к примеру
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[21:56:15] niro|by: для начала бы просто расставить правильно {% cache %} ;)
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[21:58:44] piranha: niro|by: эмм... на твое усмотрение. ;) Я вообще больше занимаюсь такими вещами, где кеш висит бесконечно, пока его кто-нить не заапдейтит :)
[21:59:15] niro|by: а как выглядит это бесконечно ?
[21:59:54] Portnov: философский вопрос: как выглядит бесконечность?
[21:59:57] piranha: ну, например, друг ли юзер1 юзеру2
[22:00:11] piranha: это может висеть, пока их дружба не изменится :)
[22:00:19] piranha: и это не темплейты, это код :)
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[22:04:53] niro|by: не, я не про философии, под твоим пониманием бесконечность в шаблоне это что-то типа {% cache 9999999 some a1 a2 a3%} ?
[22:05:24] piranha: хер знает что в шаблоне
[22:05:32] piranha: но по идее - 0
[22:05:41] piranha: бесконечность как у всех нормальных людей :)
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[22:23:41] niro|by: судя по debug toolbar 0 не бесконечность :)
[22:23:51] piranha: хмхм
[22:24:49] xa4a: 99999 может?
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[22:26:43] piranha: у кого-нить есть идеи, может ли как-то огромное количество пользователей в /etc/passwd повлиять на производительность? ;)
[22:27:16] piranha: типа тыщ 50 или 100
[22:27:26] niro|by: я на первое время 5000 поставлю :)
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[22:29:07] xa4a: piranha: для этого придумали ldap?
[22:29:35] piranha: xa4a: а пользователи в лдапе будут системными?
[22:29:55] xa4a: врядли..
[22:30:01] piranha: ну тогда это не вариант ;)
[22:30:10] piranha: вся идея в системных юзерах
[22:30:13] xa4a: а какая тебе системность нужна?
[22:30:17] xa4a: права на файлы раздавать?
[22:30:19] piranha: ага
[22:31:34] piranha: xa4a: так что, этого не будет?
[22:31:47] xa4a: не хнаю)
[22:31:48] xa4a: з
[22:32:02] xa4a: может в сторону pam_ldap
[22:32:05] xa4a: или чё-т такого
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[22:32:13] piranha: ну да
[22:32:21] piranha: я, правда, в сторону pam_pgsql смотрел
[22:32:27] piranha: у меня пользователи все равно в скл есть
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[22:34:35] piranha: но он юзает юзеров из системы
[22:34:37] piranha: просто пароли из базы
[22:34:39] xa4a: а вообще, разве для того, чтобы установить овнера файлу, нужна запись в /etc/passwd?
[22:34:42] piranha: или... а, не, нихера
[22:34:49] piranha: xa4a: а вот это я и пытаюсь понять
[22:34:56] piranha: айдишников же не будет
[22:35:04] xa4a: разве что может быть после 65535 трабл)
[22:35:11] xa4a: почему не будет?
[22:35:18] piranha: не будет трабла
[22:35:25] piranha: в линухе 2.6 2^32 юзеров можно
[22:35:33] xa4a: а ну дык
[22:35:34] piranha: xa4a: ну в пгскл нету айдишников в базе
[22:35:41] xa4a: а
[22:35:56] xa4a: странная база такая
[22:36:52] piranha: ну типа да
[22:36:57] piranha: аутентифицируешь через базу
[22:37:04] piranha: но в результате это выходит один и тот же юзер, что ли
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[22:39:14] piranha: опача
[22:39:22] piranha: судя по всему в лдапе можно уид хранить
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[22:40:08] piranha: опа
[22:40:12] piranha: и в постгресе видать тоже можно
[22:40:15] piranha: чорд возьми
[22:40:33] xa4a: в постгресе, кстати, есть oid
[22:40:59] piranha: а при чем тут? :)
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[22:41:21] xa4a: ну это к тому, что в постгресе в базе какие-то айдишники точно есть
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[22:42:02] piranha: а
[22:42:05] piranha: та )
[22:42:16] piranha: http://www.gscz.net/~kolyk/nss-pgsql.html
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[22:42:48] xa4a: а, крута
[22:43:15] piranha: парам-пам-PAM
[22:43:16] generatorglukoff: all: подскажите что делать с re:
>>> import re
>>> r = re.compile("о", flags = re.IGNORECASE | re.UNICODE)
>>> r.match("О")
>>>

[22:43:17] piranha: =)
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[22:43:45] generatorglukoff: "о" - кириллическая
[22:43:49] xa4a: а О?
[22:43:51] piranha: >>> import re
>>> re.match("o", "O", re.I|re.U)
<_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x843bf38>

[22:43:55] piranha: лол
[22:44:03] piranha: две разные буквы, а ты хочешь, чтоб они матчились? :)
[22:44:16] piranha: а почему p не матчит п?
[22:44:19] xa4a: generatorglukoff: в общем, u".." ещё
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[22:44:28] piranha: или там v - в? :)
[22:44:29] xa4a: piranha: у них закорючки разные
[22:44:41] piranha: гг
[22:44:42] Typhon: p р
[22:44:52] piranha: Typhon: та да, и с с
[22:45:05] Typhon: баг, наверное в re
[22:45:08] Typhon: :(
[22:45:11] Typhon: не матчи
[22:45:13] Typhon: т
[22:45:16] generatorglukoff: piranha: кириллица везде
[22:45:34] xa4a: generatorglukoff: ты зачем флаг re.U вставил?
[22:45:41] xa4a: хотел, небось, юникод юзать?
[22:45:49] xa4a: и что тебя остановило?
[22:45:54] xa4a: (3 вопроса риторических)
[22:46:10] generatorglukoff: гм
[22:46:16] generatorglukoff: чото неработало
[22:46:49] xa4a: или у тебя питон3?
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[22:47:33] piranha: >>> import re
>>> re.match(u"о", u"О", re.I|re.U)
>>>

[22:47:34] piranha: однако
[22:47:36] piranha: обе русские
[22:47:41] piranha: подозреваю найопку в терминале
[22:47:45] xa4a: дада
[22:47:46] piranha: файл делать впадло
[22:47:55] xa4a: >>> import re>>> re.match(u'о', u'О', re.I|re.U)<_sre.SRE_Match object at 0xb7c15918>
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[22:48:10] xa4a: piranha: ipython?
[22:49:10] xa4a: в нём не работает, да
[22:49:14] xa4a: он хавает кодировки
[22:49:55] piranha: ага, ипитон
[22:49:58] generatorglukoff: xa4a: и как тестать ./manage.py shell ?
[22:50:05] piranha: никак
[22:50:09] piranha: не тести русские слова в нем
[22:50:16] xa4a: точно
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[22:50:26] generatorglukoff: --plain
[22:51:07] generatorglukoff: чото
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[23:13:32] generatorglukoff: xa4a:
andrey@evilhorse ~ $ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Oct 27 2008, 01:57:28)
[GCC 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.1)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import re
>>> re.match(u"Щ", u"щ", re.I)
>>> re.search(u"Щ", u"щ", re.I)
>>>

[23:14:52] piranha: re.I | re.U
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[23:17:36] generatorglukoff: угу
[23:17:38] generatorglukoff: спсб
[23:21:09] generatorglukoff: гм, а почему из джанги строка u'(lordsoftware)|((^|\\w)(\u043d\u0430|\u043f\u043e)\u0445\u0443(\u0439|\u044f|\u044e|\u0435\u043c))' имеет \u символы, а из консоли u'\xd0\xbd\xd0\xb0\xd1\x85\xd1\x83\xd0\xb9' - утф нераспарсеный?
[23:22:38] Муркт: generatorglukoff: ты питоном пользуешься, или ипитоном?
[23:22:50] generatorglukoff: обычным
[23:22:52] Муркт: вроде как питоном, но не уверен :)
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[23:23:03] generatorglukoff: ./manage.py shell --plain
[23:23:06] generatorglukoff: этим
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[23:24:08] generatorglukoff: и в каком виде я получу из request.POST ?
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[23:24:29] piranha: \u
[23:24:42] Typhon: из джанги строка u'
[23:24:47] Typhon: ты ж сам сказал _
[23:25:01] _lorien is now online
[23:25:10] generatorglukoff: Typhon: эта строка тянется из базы
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[23:26:15] _lorien: Чо тут новенького за год было? )
[23:28:10] Муркт: _lorien: гы.
[23:28:10] _lorien: Никто не баловался депривацией сна? http://ariom.ru/wiki/DeprivacijaSna
Думаю попробовать. А то так обломно ложиться каждый день под утро, зная, что просплю всё солнечное утро. Так хоть буду через раз просыпать )
[23:28:24] _lorien: Суть метода проста: спим через ночь.
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[23:29:41] slav0nic: опа, кого я вижу)
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[23:30:25] _lorien: решил снова посидеть тут, буду вам баяны замые забаяненые слать )
[23:30:41] Typhon: silent_bob
[23:30:46] Typhon: а этот зачем? :)
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[23:33:21] piranha: хехе, неожиданно ;)
[23:33:49] piranha: _lorien: мне вообще кажется, что играми со сном можно себе сорвать крышу...
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[23:34:36] _lorien: piranha, ага, не исключён и такой вариант. Я не боюсь, хотя бы потому что с ума никогда не сходил и не знаю, что это такое.
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[23:35:58] piranha: _lorien: не, не настолько сорвет
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[23:36:20] piranha: просто будешь постоянно херово себя чувствовать, упадет работоспособность, да и ваще здоровье можно покоцать
[23:36:26] jedgar: _lorien: я пробовал чтото подобное, хнрово быть невыспавшимся и терпеть до момента когда задумал лечь спать
[23:36:34] piranha: на глаза свои красные посмотри и задумайся ;)))
[23:36:37] piranha: пхехехе
[23:37:27] _lorien: Они у меня давно красные :-) Терпеть хреново, да. Если буду постоянно чувствовать, то прекращу, конечно. А на счёт того, что здоровье подорвать. Ну это как с сигаретами, профессиональным спортом, качалкой и т.д. - всё тебя убивает.
[23:37:47] piranha: ну тут так же бессмысленно, как с сигаретами
[23:37:49] piranha: и даже хуже
[23:37:52] piranha: имхо
[23:37:55] _lorien: Еда из супермаркетов, думаю, нехило здоровье подрывает.
[23:38:03] piranha: а хули не спать как обычные люди?
[23:38:06] jedgar: лучще спать 4 часа/8 часов работать
[23:38:08] piranha: ну типа с 12 до 8?
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[23:38:16] piranha: с 24 до 8
[23:38:23] _lorien: Да я выше написал :-) Часто срываюсь и ложусь под утро. Не получается ложиться в 10-12.
[23:38:40] piranha: поставь будильник
[23:38:45] piranha: и попробуй две недели подряд ложиться
[23:38:46] piranha: =)
[23:38:54] _lorien: Ставил, я ленивое слабовольное животное.
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[23:40:10] piranha: сделай в кроне shutdown -h now в 00:10? :-)
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[23:42:53] _lorien: Буду депривировать и всё тут :-)
[23:43:23] _lorien: Хотя бы что бы попробовать! Это уже довольно веская причина.
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[23:44:02] piranha: =)
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[23:45:40] generatorglukoff: /me регулярно депривирует
[23:45:48] generatorglukoff: метро туда - 20 мин
[23:45:52] generatorglukoff: обратно - 20 мин
[23:45:55] piranha: uu
[23:45:58] piranha: ыыы
[23:46:03] generatorglukoff: в универ, с универа, на работу, с работы
[23:46:05] piranha: у меня папа - прирожденный деприватор
[23:46:08] piranha: ^_^
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[23:50:46] gigimon: лориен ^_^
[23:51:29] _lorien: /me потыкал палочкой Большой Лис
[23:51:40] _lorien: /me потыкал палочкой gigimon
[23:51:55] gigimon: првиет)
[23:52:07] _lorien: хой!
[23:52:38] Большой Лис is now away
[23:53:36] Большой Лис is now online
[23:58:20] abnormalunit is now online
[23:58:29] abnormalunit is now offline