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[00:31:53] jython: Привет всем
[00:32:07] red-agent: О, стасег пришел.
[00:32:16] jython: :D
[00:32:21] red-agent: /me отменил закачку "Вечерник квартал"
[00:32:25] jython: У меня есть вопрос
[00:32:45] jython: s=SMTP('mail.onego.ru')
[00:32:50] jython: Что делает эта строка?
[00:33:23] пыщь пыщь: она делает ПЫЩЬ ПЫЩЬ )
[00:33:32] red-agent: кофе варит, конечно.
[00:33:35] red-agent: что же еще?
[00:33:53] jython: Не чесно
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[00:33:59] red-agent: а пока варит, делает ПЫЩЬ-ПЫЩЬ
[00:34:01] red-agent: (паром)
[00:34:04] jython: :)
[00:34:18] red-agent: какое из слов тебе не понятно?
[00:34:29] пыщь пыщь: jython, тебе не приходило в голову посмотреть, откуда импортится SMTP и затем почитать документацию на этот модуль?
[00:34:44] пыщь пыщь: Если это самописный модуль, то читать сорцы.
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[00:35:03] cutwater: о... товарищи, хотел спросить
[00:35:11] jython: Там же протокол указывается?
[00:35:13] red-agent: пыщь пыщь, это stdlib.
[00:35:37] red-agent: jython, smtp это и есть название протокола
[00:35:38] red-agent: simple mail transfer protocol
[00:35:41] cutwater: пытаюсь найти вменяемую доку как mercurial через ssh и через ssl
[00:36:03] red-agent: а s=SMTP('mail.onego.ru') - это создание обьекта smtp к соотетствующему хосту.
[00:36:05] jython: mail.onego.ru А это тогда что?
[00:36:12] пыщь пыщь: hg clone ssh://user@domain//path/to/repo .
вот так )
[00:36:14] jython: А понятно
[00:36:27] jython: Спасибо всем
[00:36:29] cutwater: пыщь пыщь, ну это понятно :) так же как и с гитом
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[00:36:43] пыщь пыщь: а чо тогда спрашиваешь? )
[00:36:54] cutwater: а по ф-ционалу по типу gitosis?
[00:37:10] пыщь пыщь: чё-то на улице упорно не светает - обломно спать идти в темноте %-)
[00:37:33] пыщь пыщь: cutwater, вообще не понял, что ты сказал, я git не знаю )
[00:37:37] cutwater: ясно
[00:37:41] пыщь пыщь: /me умер
[00:37:47] jython: :D
[00:37:50] cutwater: щас попытаюсь объяснить
[00:38:09] jython: Почему именно пыщь пыщь?
[00:38:28] red-agent: Чтобы ты закрыл хлебало и не задавал больше глупых вопросов.
[00:38:46] cutwater: доступ как у http://hg.piranha.org.ua/ и через ssl я думаю знаю как сделать
[00:38:50] jython: red-agent: На пример
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[00:39:54] cutwater: я так понял у piranha hgweb стоит?
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[00:42:01] tilarids: /me ненавидит TeX. В любом случае, сколько ты не долбайся, прав будешь не ты, а эта бездушная скотина!
[00:42:21] cutwater: аха.. видимо оно
[00:42:41] cutwater: а я ж сюда заходил, правда ман по этому серверу очевидно не увидел
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[00:56:55] xa4a: bare?
[00:57:07] cutwater: да... аналог гитовского
[00:57:13] xa4a: не знаю гит
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[00:58:01] Хрюндель: Зацените, чувак устроился на odesk работать, прога их скриншотов наделала http://picbite.com/image/50129eitzf/
[00:59:23] xa4a: крута
[00:59:27] cutwater: xa4a, вобщем в репозитории хранятся только файлы меркуриала
[00:59:45] xa4a: cutwater: ну сделай себе репозиторий, напушь в него и не делай update
[00:59:58] xa4a: будет в репозитории только каталог .hg
[01:00:09] xa4a: так хочешь?
[01:00:35] cutwater: да
[01:00:43] cutwater: понял.
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[01:01:22] cutwater: ясно. спасиб
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[06:02:01] qq6ka: кому не лень, можете dать ссылки на информационны-порталы (с боль6им объёмом различной информации), которые вам наравятся в области юзабельности)
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[10:24:24] wiz_: кто-нибудь имел "счастье" работы с multiprocessing на фре? Pool жалуется на отсутствие поддержки семафоров.
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[10:30:55] wiz_: придётся с твистедом извращаться )=
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[10:32:09] mishok13: просто фря не входит в список обязательных платформ
[10:32:29] mishok13: поэтому когда релизили 2.6, то было похуй на красные билдботы на фре и опенбсд
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[10:34:33] wiz_: ... то было похуй на красные глаза фрюшников
[10:34:49] mishok13: и это тоже :)
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[10:38:23] unk2k: Всем привет!

[10:38:30] cutwater: Кревед!
[10:38:39] unk2k: Кто может помочь в написании простенького аплета для gtk2
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[10:38:56] unk2k: почитал доки и не понял нижуя
[10:39:06] cutwater: /me понял что нормально сделать по красоте как в github не получится. gitosis немного не так делает. а я хотел красивоо
[10:40:21] Большой Лис: cutwater, как не так?
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[10:40:58] cutwater: ну чтобы по git:// и публичный доступ был и секурный по ssh ключу
[10:41:32] cutwater: а то получаестя (ну секурно понимаю юзера git заводить) но доступ по
git@hostname:reponame как то не эстетически красиво имхо
[10:41:42] cutwater: хотя я так же понимаю что работать будет и так
[10:41:46] cutwater: и я херней маюся
[10:41:51] cutwater: теперь
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[10:42:29] unk2k: люди -)
[10:42:36] unk2k: мне подскажет кто ни будь ?
[10:42:49] cutwater: выложить код и задать конретныйй вопрос
[10:42:57] cutwater: апплет?
[10:43:15] unk2k: блин -)
[10:43:18] unk2k: какой код то ?
[10:43:21] cutwater: /me в своей терминологии представляет только java апплеты
[10:43:24] unk2k: я вообще не втыкаю как это делать
[10:43:28] unk2k: http://www.citforum.ru/programming/python/gnome_applets/
[10:43:32] unk2k: http://pygtk.org/articles/applets_arturogf/
[10:43:34] Большой Лис: дак на гитхабе так же
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[10:43:38] cutwater: эээээ
[10:43:39] Большой Лис: git@github.com
[10:43:50] Большой Лис: git@github.com:username/reponame.git
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[10:43:57] Большой Лис: по ssh доступ
[10:44:19] cutwater: вротмненоги
[10:44:22] cutwater: факмоймоск
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[10:44:34] unk2k: ?
[10:44:52] Большой Лис: это и удобно на самом деле
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[10:45:03] Большой Лис: что вся работа ведётся от 1-го физического юзверя
[10:45:32] cutwater: согласен :) и с правами заморачиваться не надо
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[10:46:57] cutwater: unk2k, так что в статье то не понятно?
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[10:47:11] unk2k: все
[10:47:18] unk2k: я сделал как там и нечего не получилось
[10:47:19] cutwater: нужен контейнер, сам виджет и зарегестрировать. там вроде даже примеры написаны
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[10:47:41] cutwater: ничего не получилось весьма расмытое определение
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[10:54:47] ezotrank: можете подсказать где проблемма в hg http://rafb.net/p/j5kQzw94.html ?
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[11:04:03] bergamot: unk2k> http://www.developers.org.ua/archives/egorfine/2008/04/03/effective-bug-reports/
[11:05:00] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:05:01] MAVr is now Да, я тут
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[11:08:00] unk2k: ок. я сделал скрипт 1 http://dumpz.org/8609/
Разместил его в ~/myapplet/1.py
Сделал файл 2 http://dumpz.org/8610/
и поместил его в /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/gnomeAppletExample.server

потом тыкаю на панель правой конпкой -> добавить на пенль
и нет там нижуя того что связанно с тем что я накопировал
[11:08:50] unk2k: аппечатко в /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/gnomeAppletExample.server строка
<oaf_server iid="OAFIID:Gnome_Panel_Example_Factory" type="exe" location="/home/r00t/ftpapplet/gnomeAppletExample.py">
меняем на
<oaf_server iid="OAFIID:Gnome_Panel_Example_Factory" type="exe" location="/home/r00t/myapplet/1.py">

[11:09:29] unk2k: мне нужно это как пример, т.к. в дальнейшем я уже (надеюсь) разберусь и изменю функционал
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[11:14:32] unk2k: ну так и .... ?
[11:14:51] cutwater: Большой Лис, а ты этот gitosis ставил?
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[11:15:18] bergamot: уже боле-менее. Может кто-то ответит, кто знает GTK и делал апплеты GNOME.
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[11:15:44] wiz_: я делал, но не отвечу.
[11:15:54] bergamot: по первой ссылке есть способ запустить апплет в отдельном окне, ты его запускал?
[11:16:01] wiz_: да
[11:16:08] unk2k: да
[11:16:12] unk2k: и жуй с маслом
[11:16:23] unk2k: просто отробатывает и все
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[11:16:29] unk2k: и в процах не висит да же
[11:16:42] bergamot: всмысле отрабатывает и всё? окно рисует?
[11:16:46] Большой Лис: cutwater, угу
[11:16:47] unk2k: нет
[11:16:51] Большой Лис: и активно пользуюсь
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[11:17:48] unk2k: может кто знает какой ни будь готовый апплет ? в принципе можно же его разобрать и понять
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[11:18:04] bergamot: ну значит надо добиться чтобы рисовало, а с регистрацией в гноме повременить
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[11:18:58] cutwater: Большой Лис, вопрос такой, у меня на сервере доступ порезан только по rsa ключу.
сделл sudo -H -u git gitosis-init < /tmp/id_rsa.pub
но я так понял что ключи всех юзеров нужно добавлять еще в autorized_keys?
[11:19:06] cutwater: дабы он мог по ssh к git подключиться
[11:19:57] Большой Лис: ye lf
[11:19:58] Большой Лис: да
[11:20:13] Большой Лис: /tmp/id_rsa.pub это считай как "одмин"
[11:20:17] cutwater: а это тогда sudo -H -u git gitosis-init < /tmp/id_rsa.pub нафига?
[11:20:24] unk2k: bergamot, тогда уж проще найти готовый и разобрать
[11:20:41] Большой Лис: юзей, чей это ключь сможет сразу работать с репой на админских правах
[11:20:55] Большой Лис: прописывать других юзверей
[11:21:02] cutwater: ясно
[11:21:56] cutwater: то есть ключ должен быть и в /home/git/.ssh/authorized_keys и в gitosis я так понял
[11:22:18] unk2k: cutwater, это на сервере
[11:22:29] cutwater: естественно
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[11:23:18] unk2k: :~/.ssh$ cat id_rsa.pub
[11:23:37] unk2k: ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABI...................UNNaJoQ== r00t@.....................
[11:23:53] cutwater: unk2k, эм как бы я знаю как с ssh работать
[11:23:53] unk2k: $ ssh -lroot XXXXXXXXX
[11:24:17] unk2k: # cat .ssh/authorized_keys
[11:24:34] cutwater: аха, все ясно
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[11:24:39] unk2k: ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABI...................fRj2vuFMYt2OYHMHnrWUNNaJoQ== r00t@...............
[11:24:43] cutwater: он в authorized_keys сам добавил
[11:24:57] cutwater: значит где-то на ssh порезано чтобы нельзя было подключиться
[11:25:09] unk2k: рут на сервере должен добавить твой ключ
[11:25:27] unk2k: ну в /etc/sshd ..... что то .conf
[11:25:30] unk2k: стоит переменная
[11:25:33] unk2k: бля щя покажу
[11:25:37] Большой Лис: cutwater, проверь что бы на ~/.ssh папку права были 700
[11:25:50] cutwater: да
[11:25:59] unk2k: # cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:26:03] cutwater: так и есть
[11:26:06] unk2k: PermitRootLogin yes
[11:26:10] Большой Лис: покажи ssh -v git@tvoi_host
[11:26:14] unk2k: RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
[11:26:18] Большой Лис: unk2k, тебе НЕ надо рутом бля
[11:26:25] Большой Лис: т.е. cutwater
[11:26:40] Большой Лис: тебе надо юзером git заходить
[11:26:45] unk2k: бля, ну смотря для какова пользователя,я для рута добовлял
[11:26:49] Большой Лис: а ключ от кого угодно может быть
[11:26:56] cutwater: Большой Лис, а я рутом и не захожу
[11:27:00] cutwater: :D
[11:27:10] Большой Лис: покажи ssh -v git@tvoi_host
[11:27:13] unk2k: я пишу ситуацию исходя из задача что надо для рута
[11:27:44] cutwater: Permission denied
[11:28:02] Большой Лис: поконкретнее
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[11:28:35] cutwater: поконкретней щас дерну чела который его настраивал
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[11:28:54] Большой Лис: должно быть так
debug1: Remote: Forced command: gitosis-serve tvoi_user
[11:29:03] Большой Лис: debug1: Remote: Port forwarding disabled.
debug1: Remote: X11 forwarding disabled.
debug1: Remote: Agent forwarding disabled.
debug1: Remote: Pty allocation disabled.
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[11:29:16] Большой Лис: PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
ERROR:gitosis.serve.main:Need SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND in environment.
debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype exit-status reply 0
[11:29:29] Большой Лис: так должно быть если пытаешься просто по ssh зайти
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[11:29:35] nmk: а в hg можно как-нибудь смерджить, допустим в stable из trunk ченджсеты, скажем с 20 до 30 ? если stable это 10ый ченджсет, например.
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[11:29:59] cutwater: Большой Лис, там щас вообще в sshd_config AllowedGroups стоит только админы. так что.
[11:30:11] Большой Лис: ы
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[11:30:35] Большой Лис: так не покатит
[11:30:38] Большой Лис: или...
[11:30:47] Большой Лис: занеси юзера git в админны
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[11:34:24] cutwater: я думаю можно добавить AllowUsers в принципе
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[11:48:59] пыщь пыщь: http://it-omsk.com/pub/1042e6872fa63cb1f00172df121131d9.png
охуеть )
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[11:51:12] Большой Лис: %)
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[11:51:27] Большой Лис: none of the above %)
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[11:52:13] cutwater: Большой Лис, только не понял. если права у него на папку должны быть 700
[11:52:40] Большой Лис: на папку ~/.ssh
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[11:52:47] Большой Лис: иначе sshd тебя найух пошлёт
[11:52:52] Большой Лис: он такой
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[11:53:09] cutwater: хм
[11:53:17] пыщь пыщь: не обязательно 700
[11:53:24] пыщь пыщь: можно 500
[11:53:50] Большой Лис: %)
[11:54:19] cutwater: фак
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[12:01:02] cutwater: блджад
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[12:01:23] cutwater: короче пока я тут пытался законектится на юзира git
[12:01:30] cutwater: меня на сервере успешно забанило
[12:01:34] cutwater: за 3 неудачные попытки
[12:02:18] Большой Лис: :D
[12:02:32] пыщь пыщь: хакир
[12:02:42] cutwater: злостный при чем
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[12:05:53] cutwater: фак... кто ж такое придумал
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[12:14:14] cutwater: ога, ERROR:gitosis.serve.main:Need SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND in environment.
debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0
[12:14:17] cutwater: рубит он
[12:14:39] Большой Лис: нормально
[12:14:41] Большой Лис: так и должно быть
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[12:18:38] cutwater: вопрос только как это реализовано?
[12:18:50] cutwater: интересно
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[12:20:53] cutwater: круто. он сам добавляет в .ssh/authorized_users
[12:20:58] cutwater: я начинаю любить gitosis
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[12:22:24] cutwater: Большой Лис, огромнейшее спасибо
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[12:31:22] nmk: нааароод. ну кто-то же в hg пасет палянууу. ну, скажите, как из одного бранча часть измениний перенести в другой
[12:32:03] Большой Лис: nmk, главный специалист по hg сейчас отсутствует
[12:32:08] nmk: да я вижу
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[12:32:11] Большой Лис: :)
[12:32:14] nmk: но я ж не верю что он один тут такой. :)
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[12:59:59] =av=: /me получил разрыв мозга с восстановлением положения окна в pyQt4
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[14:13:11] unk2k: Люди
[14:13:17] unk2k: я с апплетами так и не разобрался
[14:13:22] unk2k: может кто то мне поможет ?
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[14:15:49] wiz_: тебе поможет гугль
[14:16:06] wiz_: ищи самый свежий ман
[14:16:08] wiz_: есть 2009года
[14:16:13] wiz_: в блоге у кого-то
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[14:17:11] tilarids: unk2k, с какими апплетами
[14:17:30] unk2k: да блин
[14:17:38] unk2k: я все утро уже с гуглом провел
[14:17:41] unk2k: нет нихера
[14:18:00] wiz_: есть
[14:18:50] unk2k: дай линку
[14:19:15] wiz_: http://google.com/
[14:19:20] unk2k: я хочу что бы у меня с право был блок 200px с 70% прозрачностью и там были кнопки + текст
[14:19:24] unk2k: я там уже был
[14:19:27] unk2k: и нет там нихера
[14:19:31] unk2k: еще я был в яндексе
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[14:19:36] unk2k: в амереканском гугле
[14:19:40] unk2k: и в коде.гугл
[14:19:43] unk2k: и нехера
[14:19:49] unk2k: есть инфа но все не работает
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[14:20:12] tilarids: unk2k, вопрос повтори
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[14:21:44] unk2k: вопрос по апплетам
[14:21:47] unk2k: хочу свой написать
[14:21:50] unk2k: под gtk2
[14:21:55] unk2k: вопрос КАК
[14:22:06] unk2k: документация есть, но все не пашет
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[14:22:09] unk2k: я хз почему
[14:22:13] unk2k: не работает и все
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[15:45:34] пыщь пыщь: Куплю скрипт
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Куплю скрипт поисковой системы, чтобы не индексировал от других, а внем как например
в гугле можно регистрировать сайта.466697003 аська.
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[17:01:48] Большой Лис: /me pokes tilarids
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[17:07:30] Stanislav Pugachev: аааа как в js многострочную строку сделать
[17:07:48] Stanislav Pugachev: аля """ """
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[17:29:09] Stanislav Pugachev: кароче если генерить доовльно большой кусок хтмл ) и его ужно присвоить переменной в js то его нада в 1 строку тулить или в шаблоне после каждой строки конкатенацию делать
[17:29:13] Stanislav Pugachev: ыы
[17:29:20] Stanislav Pugachev: де туплю?)
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[17:36:27] Svoloch: зачем html тулить в строчку в js ?
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[17:46:24] Stanislav Pugachev: ну как бе контент элемента будующего )
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[17:54:48] Svoloch: дык вставить его в документ с пометкой display:none а потом манипулировать через DOM
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[17:57:25] Svoloch: Stanislav Pugachev: webpy или django ?
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[18:02:28] Svoloch: код надо вставить в определённое место шаблона?
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[18:02:56] Svoloch: и при этом перекодировать все спецсимволы
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[18:03:12] Svoloch: легче уже невидимый элемент втулить
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[18:03:56] Stanislav Pugachev: ну как бы да
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[18:04:05] Stanislav Pugachev: у меня генерируется в шаблоне js
[18:04:22] Stanislav Pugachev: и для одного там кусочка еще отдельным шаблоном генерируетс контент
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[18:05:06] cutwater: вопрос по gitosis
[18:05:19] cutwater: у меня на сервере trac стоит и GitPlugin
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[18:05:43] cutwater: репозитории в gitosis идут с правами 0750
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[18:05:59] cutwater: вопрос: как корректно сделать репозиторий доступным апачу
[18:06:16] Svoloch: (new XMLSerializer).serializeToString(element) сделаеш с ним и будет текст
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[18:07:30] Svoloch: cutwater: добавь юзверя апача в групу которой это всё принадлежит
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[18:09:14] cutwater: эм... насколько это безопасно?
[18:09:50] cutwater: сразу ж станут доступными и репозиторий gitosis-admin.git
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[18:16:05] Svoloch: безопасность определяется тем кто есчё эту группу может писать
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[18:19:23] cutwater: меня смущает то кто эту группу может читать
[18:19:55] cutwater: gitosis там хранит открытые ключи всех пользователей
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[18:21:20] cutwater: я бы просто поменял группу с git на www-data
[18:21:21] Svoloch: это надо подумать
[18:21:30] cutwater: на конкретном репозитории
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[18:51:43] cutwater: привет
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[18:52:30] alex.yegorov: ребята, такой вопрос, если при создании сокета вылетает ошибка то как мне получить ее код или описание, чтобы обработать?
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[18:55:36] alex.yegorov: откуда выловить вот эту пару возвращаемых при ошибке констант (errno, string)?
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[19:21:01] tilarids: Лис ушел
[19:21:10] tilarids: что ж вы ему не рассказали, что такое braid
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[21:44:13] cutwater: разрешите очень глупый вопрос
[21:44:19] cutwater: по поводу дебага django
[21:44:35] cutwater: хотя щас 5 сек
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[21:46:08] _lorien: я вот чо думаю
[21:46:22] _lorien: написано, шо задавать надо вопрос сразу, а грят "разрешите задать вопрос" и ещё тремя мессагами )
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[21:46:37] _lorien: всё, больше ничо не думаю )
[21:47:56] red-agent: думаю, вы и ваш либерализм - мудаки ;)
[21:48:17] red-agent: банить нужно, банить
[21:48:22] red-agent: одно, второго, третьего
[21:48:42] red-agent: а четвертый, глядя на это - уже не станет задавать вопросов о том, можна ли задать вопрос.
[21:48:49] _lorien: Я понял намёк про одного, второго, третьего. Имелось в виду: cutwater, _lorien, red-agent
[21:49:16] cutwater: :D приношу извинения
[21:49:24] cutwater: вспомнил что хотел погуглить еще
[21:49:36] _lorien: cutwater, поздно, за тобой уже выехал... red-agent с монтировкой )
[21:49:46] cutwater: вопрос хочу var_dump во view сделать
[21:50:09] _lorien: я кстати не знаю, что такое монтировка, но уверен, что уместно употребил это слово в своей плоской шутке )
[21:50:32] red-agent: _lorien, монтировка - это ломик такой небольшой
[21:50:39] _lorien: cutwater, pprint что ли?
[21:50:42] red-agent: с помощью него удобно снимать\натягивать шины на диски
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[21:50:57] _lorien: аа, ну да, для велосипедов тоже есть такие штуки
[21:50:58] red-agent: а так же - пийздеть кого-нибудь
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[22:07:28] unk2k: Всем еще раз привет
[22:07:53] unk2k: кто разбирается в gtk2 applet
[22:08:08] lievil: привет unk2k
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[22:08:37] xa4a: монтировка - в HL у фрмена
[22:08:44] tilarids: unk2k, разбираться, не разбираюсь, но колбасил когда-то ради прикола
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[22:09:53] _lorien: xa4a, о, помню такое
[22:09:56] unk2k: я хочу сделать такую штуку (в правом краю монитора (по все высоте) 5px полоска, наводим на нее и она расширяется до 200px и в ней есть динамический текст + кнопки. Это можно реализовать ?
[22:10:47] tilarids: unk2k, реализовать можно всё. Чего тут реализовывать - при наведении создаешь окно, вот и всё
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[22:11:31] tilarids: только при чём здесь апплеты?
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[22:12:00] unk2k: можете помочь в этом
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[22:12:12] tilarids: unk2k, за тебя написать? ;)
[22:12:13] unk2k: я вообще да же не представляю как это делать
[22:12:19] unk2k: ну только скелет
[22:12:23] tilarids: ну, у тебя опыт гуи программинга есть?
[22:12:24] unk2k: пжста
[22:12:52] unk2k: вообще нет
[22:13:19] unk2k: я сделал какую то хрень, которая создает окно обычное и в ней пишется it's work
[22:13:32] unk2k: а как че там строить вообще не догоняю
[22:13:39] red-agent: it works
[22:13:46] red-agent: учи английский, животное
[22:13:49] tilarids: /me представил, как к нему подходит заказчик и говорит:
Не можешь ли ты мне по быстренькому сайт сделать, ну хотя бы скелет. А то я не умею. "Пжста"(с)
[22:13:55] unk2k: ну блин -)
[22:14:03] unk2k: что это работает я понял
[22:14:22] unk2k: но как это привязать к

(в правом краю монитора (по все высоте) 5px полоска, наводим на нее и она расширяется до 200px и в ней есть динамический текст + кнопки.
[22:14:25] unk2k: ??
[22:14:38] unk2k: как там сформировать текст
[22:14:40] unk2k: как сделать дизигн
[22:14:45] unk2k: как сделать прозрачность
[22:14:56] red-agent: идешь в гугл и пишешь Pygtk tutorial
[22:14:57] tilarids: unk2k, ты гонишь, да? ты туториал по гтк прочитал?
[22:14:59] red-agent: и читаешь
[22:15:08] unk2k: нет
[22:15:19] tilarids: unk2k, вперёд, вперёд
[22:15:49] unk2k: там по албански все
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[22:17:30] red-agent: бля, забанте кто-нить это животное, а?
[22:18:01] _lorien: unk2k, учи албанский
[22:18:38] unk2k: долго
[22:18:54] _lorien: кто знает хороший аналог mailinator.com? Чё-то на него не пришло письмо. Если будет POP доступ,то ваще круто.
[22:18:56] unk2k: red-agent, выпий йаду и помоги мне
[22:19:11] _lorien: unk2k, это несовместимые операции
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[22:20:16] unk2k: риторический вопрос
[22:20:42] unk2k: ладно, вы мне скажите я с помощью питона смогу сделать то что я описал ?
[22:20:54] cutwater: _
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unk2k, стена там --> |_|
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[22:20:58] tilarids: _lorien, заведи мыло на мыло.ру
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[22:21:05] red-agent: unk2k, Ты? Нет.
[22:21:05] cutwater: блин... конструкцию покосило
[22:21:06] tilarids: то же самое, что и мейлинатор
[22:21:27] unk2k: red-agent, а ты ?
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[22:21:38] unk2k: red-agent, напиши мне тогда пжста
[22:21:41] unk2k: =))
[22:21:54] unk2k: ладно с вами интересно, а в туториале еще интереснее.
[22:21:57] red-agent: пжста в карман не положишь.
[22:22:13] unk2k: сколько ты виртуальных мани хочешь ?
[22:22:26] cutwater: 300$
[22:22:32] unk2k: нижуя себе
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[22:22:39] _lorien: tilarids, позволь заявить тебе, что это нихрена не то же самое )
[22:23:04] unk2k: раздели на 100 и примени функцию корня -))
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[22:23:08] unk2k: все я ушел
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[22:23:15] cutwater: unk2k, убей сибя аб стену животное
[22:23:47] tilarids: _lorien, ну, нафига тебе мейлинатор? Чтобы получить туда почту, но при этом сам акк тебе посараю?
[22:23:57] tilarids: Это именно то, что может предоставлять мыло.ру
[22:24:02] tilarids: туда реально доходит почта
[22:24:10] tilarids: но об акке можно не заботиться :)
[22:24:23] _lorien: tilarids, шобы зарегать 100 акков на сервисе, на каждый акк по мылу нужно
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[22:24:42] _lorien: tilarids, я тебе говорю, мне mail.ru не подходит )
[22:24:50] tilarids: _lorien, а, ты еще и спамер
[22:25:02] _lorien: Почему сразу спамер? )
[22:25:11] red-agent: он не спамер.
[22:25:14] red-agent: он просто мудак.
[22:25:15] tilarids: _lorien, это же элементарно
[22:25:18] tilarids: дедукция
[22:25:26] tilarids: вряд ли ты будешь вбивать 100 адресов руками
[22:25:28] red-agent: который забивает сайты/каталоги всяким мусором
[22:25:30] _lorien: tilarids, в данном случае она тебя подвела )
[22:25:31] red-agent: seoшным
[22:25:42] red-agent: tilarids, они засирают наши интернеты.
[22:25:48] tilarids: так это тоже спам
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[22:25:57] tilarids: _lorien, учи дефиницию спама
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[22:26:02] _lorien: Ваши интернеты, много чо вы для интернета сделали то? )
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[22:26:07] tilarids: смотри Монти Пайтон :)
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[22:26:25] _lorien: tilarids, хорошо, если ты считаешь даже рег акков спамом, то я спамер )
[22:26:26] tilarids: _lorien, "я в него не сру"(с), и то не мало
[22:26:44] _lorien: tilarids, большое достижение )
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[22:27:06] tilarids: по сравнению :)
[22:27:21] _lorien: У меня немного другая философия )
[22:28:01] _lorien: Т.е. говорить я не сру, поэтому я хороший человек - это как бы на пустом месте самолюбование )
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[22:29:13] _lorien: Я вот сделал dumpz.org тот же для людей или тот же omprice.ru людям нравится. Мне хорошо от этого. Но у меня нет какие-то внутренних блокировок, чтобы ... скажем так.. заниматься SEO :-)
[22:29:49] tilarids: _lorien, расслабься ;) Я тебя не критикую
[22:30:18] tilarids: каждый живет, как хочет. Если тебе это SEO приносит бабло, то я за тебя рад. Вполне себе достойное времяпровождение
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[22:30:40] _lorien: Ню... Я тока хотел углубиться в горячую дискуссию )
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[22:30:49] tilarids: уж точно лучше, чем делать справа полоску в пять пикселов, которая потом в 200 превращается
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[22:31:24] red-agent: Ну, я бы не сказал, что достойное.
[22:31:33] red-agent: На самом деле - довольно вшивое.
[22:31:39] red-agent: Но мне лично - похуй =)
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[22:34:35] tilarids: вы вот лучше слушайте концепт:
есть тулзовина, на Python. Идея - запускаешь любое приложение посредством этой тулзовины, используешь приложение, а тулзовина запоминает, какие функции с какими параметрами запускались и что возвращалось. Под конец она генерит более-менее читаемые юнит-тесты. Есть такое?
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[22:50:36] lievil: http://dpaste.com/44536/
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[22:51:23] lievil: правильный подход?
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[22:53:20] Svoloch: php на серваке установлен?
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[23:04:19] lievil: да
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[23:04:23] lievil: надо экспортить данные
[23:05:18] Svoloch: можно это на php сделать... вдруг в конфиге ктото оформление поменяет
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[23:05:45] lievil: не поменяют
[23:05:59] lievil: в try завернуть
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[23:06:10] Svoloch: тогда сойдёт
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[23:06:23] lievil: а лучше?
[23:06:35] unk2k: ну я початал
[23:06:39] unk2k: и не к чему не пришел
[23:06:42] _lorien: о, seo )
[23:06:48] unk2k: поможите немного
[23:07:20] _lorien: dict(re.findall("\['([^']+)'\]\='(.+)'",file("../config.php","r").read(666)))
{'login': 'seo', 'host': 'localhost', 'password': 'eiPieha1', 'name': 'seo'}
гавно
[23:07:37] lievil: а как правильно?
[23:07:46] _lorien: не, пардон, сильно выразился
[23:07:53] _lorien: ну короче, я бы в несколько строк записал )
[23:07:57] lievil: зачем
[23:08:05] _lorien: не знаю, люблю в несколько строк )
[23:08:09] _lorien: шобы меньше каши было
[23:08:10] lievil: ясно
[23:08:33] _lorien: обычно потом проще рефакторить
[23:08:54] lievil: а что такое рефакторить?
[23:08:56] Svoloch: в несколько строк бывает нечитабельно... правильно это когда весь код перед глазами
[23:09:22] _lorien: Угу, несколько строк... на экран не влезут.. экраны то ща маленькие пошли
[23:09:27] lievil: угу
[23:09:30] lievil: 80х16
[23:09:32] _lorien: вон на асусасх маленькие какие, то ли ещё будет
[23:09:45] _lorien: так шо переходим все на пёрл )
[23:09:48] lievil: wifi на часах
[23:10:19] Svoloch: perl хороший язык... удобный :)
[23:10:32] _lorien: угу, место хорошо экономит )
[23:10:39] lievil: ))))
[23:10:50] red-agent: в черепной коробе
[23:11:00] red-agent: за счет насильного высушивания мозгов
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[23:11:40] _lorien: lievil: а что такое рефакторить?
Это когда заказчик грит, я забыл, что мы хотели, чтобы программа ещё сама делала кофе и вот в этом месте надо в 10 раз быстрей, а вот тут сменился формат данных )
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[23:12:12] Svoloch: сегодня народ в haskell@ пытался выяснить как это решение какойто задачи заняло 47 символов... побольше бы такого кода...
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[23:13:31] _lorien: lievil, я придумал, как твою прогу сократить :-))
[23:13:47] _lorien: file("../config.php","r") - тут не надо "r" :-)
[23:14:02] _lorien: чур, мне процент с оплаты за сэкономленные знакосимволы )
[23:14:33] Svoloch: и отступов не недо, есть ";"
[23:14:34] _lorien: read(666) - это ваще позёрство какое- то ) Выкидываем 666 и получаем три сэкономленных байта
[23:15:05] Большой Лис: tilarids, пинг
[23:15:26] Большой Лис: tilarids, я тебя что то днём спрашивал и ты не ответил, но я забыл что %)
[23:15:40] Большой Лис: и логов нет ибо на работе остались
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[23:16:29] lievil: Svoloch: а какой у них код
[23:16:33] lievil: покажи
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[23:18:03] Svoloch: lievil: на сайте написан только размер, а код сами пытались сочинить чтобы в этот размер уложится
[23:18:41] lievil: ну и пример кода
[23:18:48] lievil: или не смогли
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[23:19:24] Svoloch: шото там много наговорили.... не могу в логаг найти первую ссылку
[23:20:04] lievil: как всегда ;)
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[23:22:03] Svoloch: https://www.spoj.pl/problems/KAMIL/ вот вроде эта задачка
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[23:24:28] lievil: а
[23:24:41] Svoloch: https://www.spoj.pl/ranks/KAMIL/lang=HASK а это типа размеры решений
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[23:25:35] Svoloch: я условия не понял, потому над этим даже не думал
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[23:27:56] lievil: это сколько байт кода?
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[23:29:36] Svoloch: я так понял что да
[23:30:27] lievil: ну
[23:30:59] lievil: а там с #!/usr/bin/env someintepr ?
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[23:32:01] Svoloch: хз... очевидно что нет
[23:33:32] lievil: %)
[23:33:42] Большой Лис: cpu MHz : 1000.000
[23:33:45] Большой Лис: гм
[23:33:48] lievil: это где?
[23:33:49] Большой Лис: чо за прикол
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[23:33:55] Большой Лис: это у меня %)
[23:33:59] lievil: bios ?
[23:34:09] lievil: хотя cpuid вроде
[23:34:13] lievil: не от биоса зависит
[23:34:43] Большой Лис: hald-addon-cpufreq
[23:34:51] Большой Лис: может этот гад понижает мне частоту?!
[23:34:52] lievil: а
[23:34:56] lievil: да может
[23:35:03] lievil: cpufreq пакет
[23:35:13] lievil: при повышение нагрузки он поднимает
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[23:36:45] Большой Лис: cpu MHz : 1800.000
[23:38:24] lievil: Большой Лис: тебя напрягает?
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[23:38:51] Большой Лис: палайтсу
[23:38:59] huge: что говорит $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[23:39:23] _lorien: Большой Лис, ёбни молотком по компу - отпустит )
[23:41:04] Большой Лис: $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
userspace
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[23:41:09] Большой Лис: в гноме есть аплет
[23:41:23] Большой Лис: в котором можно изменять фреквенс
[23:41:37] Большой Лис: но как то не потяге каждый раз тыкаться в этот аплет
[23:41:54] huge: Большой Лис: вот, userspace и рулит
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[23:42:13] Большой Лис: $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
performance
[23:42:16] Большой Лис: вот
[23:42:22] Большой Лис: эой ГУЙовиной переключил
[23:42:35] huge: чтоб частота не падала iirc скажи echo perfomance >! /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[23:42:36] Большой Лис: тока это вручную джелать придётся
[23:42:47] Большой Лис: как бы отключить вообще нахер это занижение частоты?!
[23:43:15] tilarids: Большой Лис, ты про braid спрашивал
[23:43:22] Большой Лис: точно
[23:43:26] Большой Лис: так и что это? :)
[23:43:27] tilarids: игра это такая. Аркадно-логическая
[23:43:35] tilarids: с красивой рисовкой
[23:43:39] livevil: Большой Лис: меньше греется
[23:43:44] livevil: меньше напряжение жрет
[23:43:47] Большой Лис: я не на ноуте
[23:43:48] tilarids: и оригинальной (ну, для меня - оригинальной) идеей :)
[23:43:50] Большой Лис: мне похер
[23:43:51] livevil: меньше тики тратятся
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[23:43:59] livevil: тики пожалей
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[23:44:16] Большой Лис: на ноутах жалей
[23:44:20] livevil: ;)
[23:44:25] Большой Лис: на ПЦ нехер жалеть
[23:44:41] Большой Лис: tilarids, УРЛ dsrfnsdfq
[23:44:48] Большой Лис: выкатывай*
[23:45:21] huge: где--то в недрах /etc/sysctl.conf можно ставить scaling_governor на каждое ядро
[23:45:43] tilarids: !g Braid the game
[23:45:54] tilarids: тьфу
[23:46:01] tilarids: в общем. не помню я урл, Большой Лис
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[23:46:24] livevil: а можно просто отключить
[23:46:25] livevil: cpufreqd выключить
[23:46:46] Большой Лис: livevil, как?!
[23:47:39] Большой Лис: а
[23:47:41] Большой Лис: демон
[23:47:42] huge: Большой Лис: можно. сделай lsmod и вынеси все модули, что имеет cpufreq
[23:47:45] Большой Лис: дак он не запущен
[23:48:12] Большой Лис: [kron ~]$ sudo lsmod | grep cpu
xt_tcpudp 11008 4
x_tables 23044 6 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,xt_state,xt_tcpudp,xt_multiport,ip_tables
[kron ~]$
[23:48:16] Большой Лис: нет ничо такого
[23:48:33] huge: 8-o
[23:49:35] huge: тогда, этот демон сам лазит по syscall'ам, его и выносить
[23:50:10] huge: хотя, странно, как он это делает? он от root'а?
[23:50:51] huge is now away
[23:50:58] Большой Лис: дак какой демон?!
[23:51:01] Большой Лис: нет никакого демона
[23:51:08] Stanislav Pugachev is now online
[23:51:28] Большой Лис: тока этот, hal-шототам
[23:51:41] Большой Лис: [kron ~]$ ps aux | grep cpu
root 2550 0.0 0.1 5188 1288 ? S 22:29 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
kron 6681 0.1 2.2 30728 17596 ? S 23:35 0:01 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/cpufreq-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_CPUFreqApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=26
kron 7792 0.0 0.1 3360 816 pts/0 S+ 23:51 0:00 grep cpu
[kron ~]$


[23:52:21] Большой Лис: [kron ~]$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
hal: /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
[kron ~]$
[23:52:24] Большой Лис: бля
[23:52:27] Большой Лис: и не снесёшь
[23:53:47] unk2k is now away
[23:53:53] Большой Лис: БЛЯ
[23:53:56] Большой Лис: /etc/init.d/ondemand
[23:54:07] Большой Лис: for CPUFREQ in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor
do
[ -f $CPUFREQ ] || continue
echo -n ondemand > $CPUFREQ
done

[23:54:20] Большой Лис: пацтава
[23:55:03] Большой Лис: sudo update-rc.d -f ondemand remove
[23:55:08] Большой Лис: ljcdblfymz
[23:55:24] bbodio: канал в большом лисе.
[23:56:08] Stanislav Pugachev is now online
[23:57:09] tilarids is now away
[23:57:52] Большой Лис: кстате, быгыгы, пока цифру в скпине не увидел, 1GHz
[23:57:55] Большой Лис: даже не замечал
[23:58:00] Большой Лис: 1, или 1.8
[23:58:03] Большой Лис: баз разницы
[23:58:08] Большой Лис: :D
[23:58:42] PC is now Аська сцуко глючит. Мой Jabber/GTalk: pc@jabber.gafol.net
[23:58:59] tilarids is now online
[23:59:33] Большой Лис: гнайт
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