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[00:00:45] piranha: да, я тож текилу не люблю
[00:00:51] piranha: mishok13: шо, все пиво хуже?
[00:01:07] A2K: бывает пиво хуже чем в киеве?
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[00:01:36] Большой Лис: бывает
[00:01:38] mishok13: миллер дерьмо, калифорнийское какое-то -- ваще ад, бадвайзер -- никакой
[00:01:40] tilarids: A2K, во Львове, по слухам, хуже
[00:01:41] Большой Лис: в кишинёве
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[00:02:23] mishok13: A2K, перестань быть таким толстым
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[00:02:44] mishok13: piranha, короче, все местные пьют исключительно хайнекен :)
[00:04:01] piranha: A2K: унылая попытка какая-то
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[00:04:21] piranha: mishok13: гы, ну я его и здесь пробовал - не понравилось
[00:04:24] A2K: да я серьёзно вообщ-то... ну ладно..
[00:04:33] piranha: в Киеве можно найти хорошее пиво
[00:04:39] red-agent: mishok13, лучше пива чем Гинесс еще имхо не сварили.
[00:04:40] piranha: и можно найти просто пристойное
[00:04:47] piranha: -1
[00:04:51] A2K: piranha, где?
[00:04:55] mishok13: на вкус и цвет
[00:05:04] red-agent: тоже верно.
[00:05:07] mishok13: мне, к примеру, хугарден больше всего нравится
[00:05:13] mishok13: но в Киеве он часто кислый
[00:05:20] Муркт: > If you review your first site version and don’t feel embarrassment, you spent too much time on it.
[00:05:21] piranha: mishok13: хугарден - это не нефильтрованное?
[00:05:21] mishok13: как и многие другие марки :)
[00:05:25] mishok13: piranha, да
[00:05:44] red-agent: Хольстен еще попадается нормальный.
[00:05:47] red-agent: Время от времени
[00:05:59] Муркт: A2K: ты что, в России не был?
[00:06:02] piranha: A2K: да много где, в бирштадте, в сундуке, просто так бывает Радомышльское довольно вменяемое, плюс раз таки нашел Микулинецкое
[00:06:04] Большой Лис: red-agent, сума сошёл что ли? кто ж в наше время пиво варит?
[00:06:05] Муркт: там почти везде пиво хуже, чем в Киеве.
[00:06:14] Большой Лис: водичка, порошочек, газик
[00:06:17] A2K: Муркт, был, но тогда на пиво внимания не обратил.
[00:06:19] Муркт: piranha: плюс Пивариум, хотя он и недёшев.
[00:06:19] Большой Лис: и пошло в бутылки
[00:06:20] Большой Лис: %)
[00:06:26] piranha: а, Пивариум, да
[00:06:39] A2K: хмм.. интересно.. запишу
[00:06:43] piranha: Большой и Толстый: зогойвор!
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[00:07:01] piranha: !g bierstadt
[00:07:02] red-agent: piranha, да ну нафиг, Микулинецкое - сакс полный.
[00:07:07] mishok13: пивариум недешев?
[00:07:18] piranha: по сравнению с радомышльским
[00:07:22] mishok13: а
[00:07:24] piranha: red-agent: а мне понравилось...
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[00:07:37] mishok13: ну по сравнению с подолом пивариум тоже недешев
[00:07:46] piranha: та да
[00:07:57] mishok13: но в общем и целом -- вполне себе средняя цена :)
[00:08:17] Муркт: ну да, в том же "Шато" на Крещатике дороже :)
[00:08:25] piranha: а вообще меня заставляют съездить на оболонь, купить там свежего - говорят, что оно кайфовое
[00:08:34] xa4a: > раз таки нашел Микулинецкое <= пробовал недавно какое-то "медовое". буээ
[00:08:51] red-agent: угу.
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[00:08:56] red-agent: говно - говном.
[00:09:36] mishok13: микулинецкое я попробовал первый и последний раз в сундуке на михайловской года 4 назад
[00:10:10] mishok13: может оно сейчас и стало лучше, конечно...
[00:10:50] red-agent: Я его тоже пробовал первый и последний раз =)
[00:10:55] red-agent: Несколько месяцев назад.
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[00:12:15] piranha: хз, я с год назад пил какое-то светлое
[00:12:24] piranha: но вы прям заставляете меня усомнится в этом
[00:12:25] piranha: %)
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[00:12:32] piranha: *ться
[00:12:46] mishok13: кстате
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[00:12:59] mishok13: гугел на свои карты будет лепить адвордс
[00:13:19] piranha: окуеть
[00:13:27] mishok13: решили подзаработать
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[00:14:19] mishok13: непонятно, как они рекламу будут лепить на карты, которые на новостных сайтах, к примеру, выставляют
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[00:38:26] sevenov: http://cs1574.vkontakte.ru/u4950414/57632389/x_48762112.jpg :D
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[00:49:19] Spider84: привет
[00:50:09] Spider84: почему к джсону может лепиться u' ?
[00:50:32] Spider84: не могу понять откуда оно
[00:50:45] neonc: Может кто подскажет почему под windows read_until с ошибкой выходит?
[00:50:48] mishok13: наверное, это потому что юникод возвращается
[00:51:00] mishok13: neonc, что такое read_until?
[00:51:04] Spider84: а как починить?
[00:51:36] mishok13: что починить?
[00:51:42] neonc: Вот отсюда telnetlib.Telnet()
[00:51:48] Spider84: ну что б не лепилось
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[00:52:13] mishok13: neonc, с какой ошибкой
[00:52:20] neonc: Под FreeBSD все нормально работает...
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[00:52:46] mishok13: Spider84, конкретно чем тебе мешает тот факт, что данные хранятся в юникоде, а не в байтовой строке?
[00:53:03] neonc: "C:\Python31\lib\telnetlib.py", line 292, in read_until
[00:53:05] neonc: i = self.cookedq.find(match)
TypeError: expected an object with the buffer interface
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[00:54:13] mishok13: а на фряхе под какой версией питона запускаешь?
[00:54:20] neonc: Правда на FreeBSD 2.5 Python
[00:54:36] Spider84: я планирую этот джон в яваскипт виджет передавать - не помешает оно там?
[00:54:41] neonc: Но тот же самый файл...
[00:55:26] mishok13: пиздец
[00:55:50] neonc: mishok13: Кому?
[00:55:55] mishok13: ты не в курсе, что версии 3.1 и 2.5 имеют серьезные различия?
[00:56:04] mishok13: Spider84, попробуй
[00:56:18] neonc: mishok13: В курсе...
[00:56:44] neonc: на 2.5 я перенашу с поправками...
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[00:56:56] Spider84: просто странно както.....
[00:57:10] Spider84: всегда привык видел чистый джсон
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[00:57:50] mishok13: ну энкодируй в utf8 или еще что-нибудь
[00:58:06] mishok13: но сначала попробуй без этого лишнего шага
[00:58:13] Spider84: ок спасибо за совет
[00:59:02] mishok13: neonc, выложи код на dumpz.org
[00:59:09] mishok13: посмотрим, что же там такое
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[01:00:05] neonc: Ла так все просто...
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[01:00:15] neonc: Там все очень просто...
[01:01:24] neonc: http://www.dumpz.org/8878/
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[01:02:53] mishok13: надо, пожалуй, байты передавать
[01:03:17] mishok13: в версии для 3.1 надо b'login: ' а не просто 'login: '
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[01:04:22] neonc: Хоть что-то получил...
[01:04:30] neonc: mishok13: типа Telnet(localhost,23): recv b"\xff\xfd%\xff\xfb\x01\xff\xfb\x03\xff\xfd'\xff\xfd\x1f\xff\xfd\x00\xff\xfb\x00"
[01:05:20] mishok13: ну а теперь декодируй в кодировку, которую получил
[01:05:42] mishok13: s/в/из/
[01:06:02] neonc: Мне вот это не понятно : Telnet(localhost,23)
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[01:07:10] mishok13: ну откуда я знаю, что там у тебя за сервер
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[01:07:43] neonc: Просто Windows XP
[01:07:59] mishok13: ишо
[01:08:09] neonc: Но все равно спасибо, у меня и такого результата не было...
[01:08:24] mishok13: попробуй просто телнетом законектиться и посмотреть что тебе выдает
[01:08:39] neonc: Да пробовал...
[01:10:12] neonc: Выдает (Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Service
login:)
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[01:30:21] red-agent: [01:25:34] neonc ушел (QIP Infium: Спокойное общение)
[01:30:36] red-agent: qip infium + WinXP - это особый диагноз.
[01:31:16] red-agent: mishok13, чего тебя, кстати в Калифорнию-то понесло? :)
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[01:57:00] mishok13: red-agent, на конференцию where 2.0/wherecamp
[01:57:16] red-agent: Ясно.
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[08:58:32] Большой Лис: утра
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[09:33:41] Большой Лис: http://news2000.org.ua/a/62799
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[10:40:41] Большой Лис: http://www.securitylab.ru/news/380059.php
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[11:18:05] ezotrank: а неподскажите какую нибудь программку, через которую можно узнать статистику об определенном процессе, желательно написанную на питоне?
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[11:21:04] xa4a: os-independent?
[11:21:32] xa4a: если нет, то popen + /proc/<fd>/...
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[11:22:53] ezotrank: xa4a: хм.. про прок то и забыл, thx )
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[12:27:54] slav0nic: http://v-alksnis2.livejournal.com/125373.html
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[12:34:01] ezotrank: slav0nic: а помню, она еще на #gentoo-ru светилась
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[14:04:05] огыешсук: А чего это doctest`ы с декораторами не дружат?
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[14:31:44] sevenov: огыешсук, потому что декоратор -- это функция-обертка. Доктест пытается найди докстринг в декораторе, а его там нет.
[14:31:55] sevenov: эмм, наверное
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[14:34:13] огыешсук: Ну, я тоже так посчитал. Но разве не логично ли было для декораторов doctest как-либо подхачить?
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[14:36:02] sevenov: огыешсук, ну хз, напиши патч хуль
[14:36:24] огыешсук: сам ты хуль
[14:37:01] sevenov: огыешсук, педант, что ли?
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[14:37:27] огыешсук: ты так говоришь, будто это что-то плохое
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[14:37:42] sevenov: нууу, я считаю, что да.
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[15:18:35] ezotrank: в админке джанги заполняю некоторые поля, как проверить правильно ли они заполенны и если нет, то как передать админке еррор?
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[15:22:42] sevenov: ezotrank, шо?
[15:23:38] ezotrank: sevenov: ну допустим, в админке забиваю два поля, надо проверить больше ли значение второго поля первого, и если да недопустить запись в БД а вывести ошибку
[15:24:26] _lorien: ezotrank, это вроде б надо форму подхачить
[15:24:45] _lorien: форму для админки, в том месте, где ты вообще настраивашеь админку
[15:24:57] _lorien: foo/admin.py обычно
[15:25:02] sevenov: ezotrank, доки хороши читал? http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/admin/#adding-custom-validation-to-the-admin
[15:25:17] огыешсук: model-level validation ещё в 1.0 включить хотели, но не успели, тикет есть, может когда и доделают
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[15:25:53] ezotrank: sevenov: да доков дофига, а вот этот как раз не читал. всем спасибо )
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[15:26:28] sevenov: !g admin custom validation
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[15:26:51] sevenov: ezotrank, собсно вот выдало то, что нужно
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[17:52:04] _lorien: http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/idioteka/2009/05/22/
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[19:08:33] _lorien: http://community.livejournal.com/fake_explosm/85482.html?view=1005802#t1005802
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[19:23:28] Большой Лис: http://expert.com.ua/30601.html
[19:23:30] Большой Лис: это ваще
[19:23:45] Большой Лис: По его словам, любой программист может заявить рано или поздно о своих правах и подать иск против украинского правительства на использование его интелектуальной собственности. «Вы понимаете, что это риск? Заложенная бомба», - говорит Шимкив.
[19:23:53] Большой Лис: если чо, речь об floss
[19:23:55] Большой Лис: :)
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[19:27:17] red-agent: А ставить на государственные машины тонны закрытого говнософта, который может быть напичкан чем угодно - это конечно же не риск =)
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[19:27:50] Большой Лис: M$ GPL лицензию не осилили
[19:27:56] Большой Лис: ээ
[19:28:00] Большой Лис: M$, GPL лицензию не осилили
[19:28:03] Большой Лис: вот так лучше
[19:28:11] Большой Лис: когнчуги
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[19:41:48] _lorien: ы, нашёл на одеске вакансию на парсинг википеди, попросил примеры кода посмотреть )
[19:41:49] _lorien: я их на битбакет послал :o)
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[20:33:23] A2K: э
[20:33:29] A2K: а в чем суть парсинга википедии?
[20:33:45] A2K: там ведь можно смотреть исходники страниц
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[20:34:14] _lorien: Суть парсинг любого ресурса: было ваше - стало наше.
[20:34:17] _lorien: Да, просмотр глазама страницы - это парсинг.
[20:34:25] _lorien: Только вот ты заманешься так парсить тыщу страниц )
[20:34:58] _lorien: Википедия - это структурированные через жопу данные, по сути.
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[20:45:30] Большой Лис is now Not available as a result of being idle
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[21:11:58] xa4a: а так: а в чем суть парсинга википедии? если есть апи?
[21:12:23] A2K is now online
[21:12:24] Stanislav Pugachev is now online
[21:12:37] _lorien: что за апи?
[21:12:38] red-agent: очевидно в том, чтобы написать кравлер, который соберет весь контент и положит куда-нить.
[21:12:44] red-agent: А вобще, пидорасы.
[21:12:49] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[21:12:52] red-agent: Пиздить массово контент с Вики.
[21:12:59] xa4a: википедия даёт скл-интерфейс и выкладывает дампы
[21:13:15] _lorien: дампы != структурированная информация
[21:13:22] _lorien: скл-интерфейс, что это?
[21:13:29] red-agent: Здрасте жопа - новый год.
[21:13:36] red-agent: Еще как структурированная.
[21:13:53] огыешсук: _lorien: да дамп базы данных, чтобы полностью реплицировать если что.
[21:14:05] xa4a: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API
[21:14:13] _lorien: red-agent, ну как мне сделать запрос к википедия: найти все города в англии в которых живёт более 300 человек и где есть хотя бы один стадион?
[21:14:25] tilarids: xa4a, не пали контору, там видимо распил бабла
[21:14:33] огыешсук: _lorien: всё она даёт, но не все заказчики это знают. Вот и получаются заказы на скраппинг википедии за полкилобакса, который можно выполнить за пять минут.
[21:14:43] tilarids: использование апи - это ж дешевле
[21:14:51] tilarids: меньше бабла распилят
[21:15:04] xa4a: _lorien: где, говоришь, вакансия? :D
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[21:15:32] _lorien: как мне сделать запрос к википедия: найти все города в англии в которых живёт более 300 человек и где есть хотя бы один стадион?
[21:15:39] _lorien: расскажите, как вашим апи это сделать
[21:15:48] _lorien: на которое вы ссылку дали
[21:15:51] red-agent: Может тебе еще код написать?
[21:15:59] red-agent: А ты только его продашь и положишь бабки в карман?
[21:16:05] red-agent: Тебе платят бабки - ты и думай :D
[21:16:15] _lorien: red-agent, ебанись )
[21:16:22] огыешсук: _lorien: ты можешь забрать все данные вики себе хоть в .sql хоть в .xml виде. Последний особенно легко парсится под любой запрос. Ну, пусть не пять минут это будет, пятнадцать.
[21:16:35] xa4a: _lorien: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_queries
[21:16:36] _lorien: мне эту вакансию не дали ещё - держи при себе свои домыслы )
[21:16:54] _lorien: огыешсук: _lorien: ты можешь забрать все данные вики себе хоть в .sql хоть в .xml виде. Последний особенно легко парсится под любой запрос. Ну, пусть не пять минут это будет, пятнадцать.
ты тоже ебанись )
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[21:17:25] огыешсук: сам хуль, как тут любят выражаться
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[21:18:09] _lorien: * SELECT cur_title FROM cur WHERE cur_text LIKE "%http://meta.wikipedia.com/upload/%" AND cur_namespace=0
* SELECT cur_title FROM cur WHERE cur_text LIKE "%http://%.jp%g%" AND cur_namespace=0
* SELECT cur_title FROM cur,links WHERE cur_is_redirect=0 AND cur_namespace=0 AND l_from=cur_title AND l_to=cur_id LIMIT 20
Гы, ну дык это просто запросы на уровне дай всю статью, в которой есть такое то слово. О классификации объектов тут и речи не идёт.
[21:18:16] _lorien: Господа, вы все ебанулись )
[21:18:47] xa4a: стандарт sql умеет регекспы 8)
[21:19:03] xa4a: те же самые, которыми ты парсить собрался, да)
[21:19:10] огыешсук: _lorien: а тебе всё разжевать и в рот заложить? Тогда выигрывай бид на килобакс и давай на двоих попилим.
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[21:20:44] _lorien: xa4a, ну ты поработой с википедией, охуей для начала как там по разному записывают инфу, в разных единицах в разных форматах, а потом пизди хуйню про регекспы, ага?
[21:21:06] xa4a: _lorien: ок, договорились
[21:21:21] xa4a: юзай wolfram alpha
[21:21:25] xa4a: или nigma.ru
[21:21:40] огыешсук: Вот они б свои базы заопенсорсили.
[21:21:43] _lorien: спасибо, если будут ещё умные мысли в /dev/null можно сразу )
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[21:22:30] _lorien: огыешсук, что разжевать то, я твержу о том, что api википедии даёт просто дампы и всё, распарсить которые аццкая работа, а ты блять пиздишь про разжевать )
[21:22:42] Большой Лис: Поиск среди примерно 7 569 041 285 русскоязычных документов по всему миру.
и цифна почучуть добавляется
[21:22:44] Большой Лис: хыхы
[21:22:55] _lorien: вольфрам не работает с русским, кстати )
[21:23:00] Большой Лис: ни каких xhr запросов при этом не происходит
[21:23:01] _lorien: сегдоня пробовал
[21:23:43] tilarids: _lorien, вольфрамбета работает
[21:24:03] _lorien: ы, интересно, пойду заценю )
[21:24:52] огыешсук: _lorien: ну да, прожевать эти данные через актуально надроченные классификаторы и заложить в ещё более структурированном виде в базу, а ты думал, тебе wiki-api будет разговорный английский понимать, или на все вопросы мироздания отвечать?
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[21:25:32] _lorien: огыешсук, ну ты долбоёб, я про чо и говорю, в это и есть блять суть проекта на odesk, что надо дампы попарсить )
[21:26:07] red-agent: _lorien, я бы постремался таких заданий.
[21:26:24] _lorien: Почему?
[21:26:42] red-agent: Да заказчики почти наверняка выебут тебя в хвост и в гриву.
[21:27:00] xa4a: зато можно много часов дампы перечитывать)
[21:27:07] xa4a: и качать)
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[21:27:27] _lorien: Да я особо не боюсь, я просто решил в этой области поработать - я щас конкретно в убыток себе работаю выискивая такие заказы.
[21:27:41] огыешсук: _lorien: сам долбоёб, ссылку б на проект дал или понятней бы выражался. Я уже кучу проектов на биржах видел, где всего-то надо было клиенту вики в его базу залить за кучу денег. А если кому чего и попарсить надо было, то то была сущая елементарщина на уровне студента с beautifulsoup`ом наперевес.
[21:28:13] _lorien: огыешсук, меня не ебут твои домыслы, сначала разберись, а потом пизди плиз в духе "тебе разжевать да в рот положить"
[21:28:41] огыешсук: xa4a: качать там всего ничего, я намедни скачивал -- enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml и двух десятков гигабайт не весит. А русский и одного.
[21:28:58] xa4a: latest
[21:29:15] _lorien: огыешсук, если такой умный иди помоги проекту dbpedia.org - они уже который год dbpedia парсют и до идеала им далеко.
[21:29:19] огыешсук: xa4a: так это небось оттого, что свежие
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[21:30:14] Большой Лис: http://www.wyllf.ru/video/43891-samyj-glavnyj-perdun.html
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[21:30:20] xa4a: pages-articles.xml.bz2 4.8 GB
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[21:30:27] xa4a: http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20090512/
[21:31:09] огыешсук: _lorien: это очень клёво, что тебя не ебут, но ты ж задачу сформулировал как "попарсить википедию". А это обычно именно, что довольно простая задача. А ссылки на таску так и не дал, ага.
[21:31:36] огыешсук: xa4a: вероятно это я и качал. Размер распакованный в виду имею.
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[21:32:54] огыешсук: /me читает http://dbpedia.org/ Интересный проект, и как он мимо меня пройти сумел...
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[21:36:18] red-agent: Большой Лис, :D
[21:36:27] xa4a: жессь
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[21:38:38] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (любопытно, чья база фильмов круче -- вики или имдб (кой тоже базу экспортить разрешает и на парсинг коего тоже часто заказы бывают))
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[21:39:34] _lorien: конечно imdb - он специализируется на фильмах, а вики общий ресурс
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[21:39:56] _lorien: кроме того в imdb реально упорядочено всё.. хотя когда я работал с его дампами, помню там тоже через жопу был какой-то момент :D
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[21:40:25] _lorien: во, помню
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[21:40:45] _lorien: у них на сайте в адресах фильмов используется идентификатор... так вот по нему нельзя найти инфу в дампах
[21:40:55] _lorien: странность такая :-/
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[21:42:10] огыешсук: у них всё как то по огромной куче файлов всё разбито там, не очень удобно оно
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[21:43:02] _lorien: есть питон-проект, там есть скрипты запускаешь и идёшь спать, просыпаешься - у тебя есть база в мускуле )
[21:43:24] _lorien: на pypi по запросу imdb находится
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[21:44:52] огыешсук: во блин, а я сам себе велосипед писал :o(
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[21:45:25] red-agent: ссзб.
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[21:47:15] slav0nic: та харэ уже материться
[21:47:25] slav0nic: пора отучиваться)
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[21:47:39] red-agent: wtf?
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[21:48:11] slav0nic: я про начал дискуссии
[21:48:22] огыешсук: Ага, python-imdbpy даже в дистрибутив включен. И с локально выкачанной базой работать умеет. Клёва!
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[21:48:46] red-agent: slav0nic, А что с ней не так?
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[21:52:23] _lorien: чё-т вольфрам бета выдал мне 42 по запросу "Россия"
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[21:52:34] _lorien: не очень информативно он с русским работает )
[21:52:44] red-agent: Веольфрам бета - это прикол =)
[21:52:52] red-agent: Он на любой запрос 42 выдает :D
[21:52:58] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (либо что-то про нас знает)
[21:53:11] _lorien: гы )
[21:55:00] огыешсук: wolframbeta.com это вроде запаркованный домен просто, а wolframrelease.com так и вовсе ещё не занят
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[21:55:19] red-agent: wolframsbeta.com
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[21:56:36] огыешсук: wolframsrelease.com тоже не занят, да. Непредусмотрительно.
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[21:57:39] _lorien: огыешсук, freebse.com ещё это посмотри
[21:58:37] огыешсук: А что там? Вроде дорвей какой-то.
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[21:59:51] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (а DBpedia вики аж на PHP парсят, тьфу на них)
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[22:01:08] _lorien: Очепятка. Правильный урл: freebase.com
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[22:03:43] огыешсук: Ага, это тоже любопытно. Броузер мне говорит, что я тут уже был, но я ему не верю, либо сайт с тех пор серьёзно поменялся.
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[22:03:56] _lorien: да, диз раньше другой был, красненький такой
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[22:27:48] xa4a: ыэ http://www.lyabah.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/python300-212x300.jpg
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[22:29:37] xa4a: питон хавает детей
[22:29:50] red-agent: Да нихуя не хавает
[22:29:53] red-agent: Лежит себе мудак.
[22:29:59] red-agent: А нада было бы, нада...
[22:31:26] _lorien: это он родителей заманивает
[22:31:35] slav0nic: ))
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[22:34:14] Александp: _lorien, ты когда-то на форуме у Сагалаева задавал вопрос по django feed generation, к чему пришел в итоге?
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[22:35:35] _lorien: хм, а что за feed generation такой? )
[22:35:42] _lorien: не помню, увы, вопроса
[22:35:55] Александp: или syndication feed framework
[22:36:05] Александp: про его негибкость
[22:36:15] _lorien: типа, что он память всю засирает при генерации?
[22:36:47] Александp: неа, вот нашел http://softwaremaniacs.org/forum/django/871/
[22:37:14] _lorien: ого, некро )
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[22:37:33] _lorien: да забил, так и юзаю, как фреймворк етот позволяет
[22:37:54] _lorien: ой, память засирает sitemap генератор - спутал )
[22:38:15] Александp: понятно
[22:39:31] _lorien: Могу посоветоват делать по два урла, первый красивый переиначивает параметры и отдаёт второму некрасивому, но который уже можно парсить фреймворком для фидов
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[22:41:12] _lorien: http://it-omsk.com/pub/0b94bb0b6fcbca5b2c4a0dd2ceb8353f.png
ы, в сорцах html увидел )
[22:42:17] Александp: чёт он действительно неповоротливый
[22:42:29] xa4a: _lorien: как к xmobarу трей приделал?
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[22:43:21] _lorien: xa4a, ага, http://dumpz.org/8902/
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[22:43:54] xa4a: благодарю
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[23:48:45] cutwater: простите за глупый вопрос
[23:48:53] red-agent: нет.
[23:48:58] red-agent: не простим. никогда
[23:49:15] red-agent: /me зажег факел с криком: предать анафеме отступника!
[23:49:25] cutwater: насколько я понял кроме copy.deepcopy скопировать список содержащий списки более простого и стандартного способа нет
[23:49:43] slav0nic: [:]
[23:49:43] cutwater: :)
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[23:49:56] red-agent: slav0nic, это будет шеллоу копи.
[23:50:08] bbodio: сериализовать и назад
[23:50:11] red-agent: cutwater, а чем тебе deepcopy не достаточно прост?
[23:50:18] red-agent: один вызов функции.
[23:50:34] slav0nic: а, да, затупил
[23:50:43] cutwater: да всем прост. удивился что оно в отдельном модуле как-то.
[23:50:58] red-agent: его редко используют.
[23:51:30] cutwater: до сегодня у меня даже необходимости такой не было
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