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[06:32:14] zulorflare: господа. чего можете посоветовать по крутости как PyQt, но с нормальным синтаксисом?;)
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[11:07:34] xa4a: zulorflare: PyQt с синтаксисом питона не подходит?
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[11:12:47] zulorflare: раздражают этот жуткий венгерский стиль)
[11:12:54] zulorflare: жает*
[11:13:12] zulorflare: или как он там правильно называется
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[11:14:28] zulorflare: а, нет. не венгерский
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[11:14:58] zulorflare: AxccDfsAada, например :)
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[11:16:54] mishok13: что это?
[11:18:03] zulorflare: это адская смесь больших и маленьких букв
[11:18:20] zulorflare: QSystemTrayIcon. примерно тоже самое )
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[11:21:01] mishok13: camel case это называется
[11:21:20] mishok13: отношения к синтаксису это не имеет, с другой стороны
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[11:21:32] mishok13: можешь попробовать PyGUI или PyGTK
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[11:24:19] zulorflare: пигтк не понравилось, пигуй попробую. спасбио
[11:24:22] zulorflare: спасибо*
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[12:47:06] nmk: xa4a: насчет вчерашней моей задачи, на ramdiskе все довольно сносно считается. ;)
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[12:52:23] огыешсук: djapp.org опять полёг? Где вы его так нестабильно захостили то?
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[13:00:16] _lorien: да чё-то дедик мой упал
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[13:01:02] огыешсук: _lorien: это где такие падучие раздают?
[13:01:53] _lorien: в прошлый раз проблема была не в желез
[13:02:10] _lorien: севенов не заплатил за хостинг и до него это дошло тока спустя день
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[13:49:11] _lorien: джаппорг снова с нами :D
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[14:08:07] огыешсук: _lorien: на http://djapp.org/app/django-authopenid/ опечатка "Rhis". Может какой Ctrl+Enter на сайт прикрутить?
[14:09:06] огыешсук: _lorien: а на http://djapp.org/app/django-openid-auth/ и вовсе "System Message: ERROR/3 (<string>, line 5) Unexpected indentation."
[14:09:06] _lorien: Конечно, присылай патчи, сайт opensource )
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[14:13:04] огыешсук: Этими двумя кто-либо пользовался? Что лучше?
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[14:15:13] _lorien: хезе, я ваще велосипед писал :D
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[14:15:47] _lorien: http://hg.pydev.ru/django-auth-openid/
[14:15:48] огыешсук: django-authopenid выглядит вроде получше, потещу ка я пожалуй его
[14:16:44] огыешсук: _lorien: сколько ж их
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[14:17:41] _lorien: много
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[14:17:50] _lorien: ещё хрюндель делал велосипед какой-то
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[14:17:57] wistful: Привет.pep8 не корректно определяет длину строки содержащую кирилицу. кодировка модуля - utf8. Это лечится ?
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[14:18:13] огыешсук: делать людям нечего, как openid аутентификацию писать. Удивлён, что в джангу этого ещё не включили.
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[14:18:59] огыешсук: wow, даже libapache2-mod-auth-openid есть уже
[14:19:59] _lorien: wistful, я лично не понял, что ты имеешь в виду
[14:20:31] mishok13: >>> s = u'жепь ебрило'
>>> len(s)
11
>>> len(s.encode('utf8'))
21
[14:20:35] mishok13: всё правильно
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[14:21:13] mishok13: точнее, pep8.py лох :)
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[14:21:53] mishok13: запости багрепорт, скорее всего они рассматривают исходники как набор байтов, без декодирования в юникод
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[14:22:53] wistful: спасибо. сейчас все понятно
[14:23:13] wistful: придется не обращать внимание на эти предупреждения
[14:23:39] огыешсук: действительно u'тест'.encode('utf-8') выдаёт ÑеÑÑ. Ужас-ужас.
[14:24:19] xa4a is now online
[14:24:25] mishok13: ну, это не ужас, это просто авторы pep8.py живут в ascii-only мире
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[14:27:28] xa4a: огыешсук: заюзал вот django-authopenid
[14:27:38] xa4a: вполне вменяемое
[14:27:51] огыешсук: Он django-registration правда требует?
[14:27:51] xa4a: сразу интегрировано с регистрацией
[14:27:57] xa4a: там есть example
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[16:28:24] xa4a: блеа.. . http://gismeteo.ua/city/daily/4944/2/
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[16:28:45] xa4a: в воскресенье 37
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[16:53:46] nmk: а с слоником в постгресе кто-нибудь разбирался? он может только несколько колонок реплицировать?
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[18:06:15] RaD/home: re all
[18:06:54] PC is now online
[18:07:07] RaD/home: камрады, какую библиотеку порекомендуете для GUI?
[18:07:23] RaD/home: я работал с wx, но что-то не вставило
[18:07:37] xa4a: qt
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[18:08:13] Муркт: я как-то видел код на qt, пиздец
[18:08:41] Муркт: правда другие библиотеки могут быть ещё хуже, да :))
[18:08:43] gigimon: на гтк лучше7)
[18:08:53] RaD/home: я под qt на с++ писал
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[18:09:34] red-agent is now online
[18:09:55] RaD/home: вот пытаюсь заставить себя написать прогу для ведения генеалогического дерева, не нравится как генерят деревья существующие, плюс ещё бы с фотками объеденить ... мечта
[18:10:47] xa4a: qt под питоном почти не отличается от него же в плюсах
[18:11:12] xa4a: только глюки с выделением/освобождением памяти могут вылазить в более экзотических местах ;)
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[18:22:59] _lorien: RaD/home, может, проще веб-сервисом пользоваться?
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[18:30:58] RaD/home: не вижу смысла инфу раздавать всем
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[18:36:15] _lorien: Хм, а кому то нужна твоя инфа?
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[18:42:47] RaD/home: тем более :)
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[18:45:36] _lorien: Ну тогда мы возвращаемся к предыдущему пункту ;-)
RaD/home, может, проще веб-сервисом пользоваться?
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[18:46:19] RaD/home: неа
[18:46:44] RaD/home: я ж г дереву хочу привязать кучу фоток, видео
[18:47:02] RaD/home: если и веб сервисом - то локальным
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[20:27:34] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
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[20:51:36] a1fred is now xa
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[20:54:46] a1fred is now Да, я здесь.
[20:58:32] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
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[21:40:54] cutwater is now люто-бешено ненавижу
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[22:10:11] xa4a: !wtf dry
[22:11:25] xa4a: !wtf DRY Don't Repeat Yourself is a process philosophy aimed at reducing repetition. The philosophy emphasizes that information should not be duplicated, because duplication increases the difficulty of change, may decrease clarity, and leads to opportunities for inconsistency.
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[22:54:31] xa4a: хм.. чем из стдлиба заменять " => " и <br /> => \n ?
[22:54:33] xa4a: итд
[22:54:50] red-agent: в модуле cgi есть рутины
[22:55:06] klichuk: cgi.encode
[22:55:36] klichuk: для " и тому подобных ескейпов, только декод кажись нет
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[22:58:28] xa4a: в cgi есть escape, который " -> " и <> => <>
[22:58:35] xa4a: тоесть ничего из того, что мне надо
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