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[00:38:17] : xa4a_ установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://itquest.ru/ | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[00:56:49] xa4a: Stanislav Pugachev: не поверишь
[00:56:57] xa4a: -
[00:57:07] Stanislav Pugachev: дык а чо у меня не работает ско )
[00:57:19] Stanislav Pugachev: а блять я дурак
[00:57:25] Stanislav Pugachev: все спать спать спать
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[09:29:23] habrabot: PHP / Делаем скриншоты сайтов (http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/php/62965/)
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[09:29:43] _lorien: работает сцуко :D
[09:30:06] mishok13: кахэм
[09:30:14] mishok13: это что такое было?
[09:30:48] _lorien: Я подумал, было бы прикольно транслировать сюда раз в X часов новости с хабра. А вы что думаете? )
[09:31:22] _lorien: Вообще была цель ознакомиться с google app engine. Ознакомился и понял, что там сейчас это нереально сделать. Оповещалку такую :-/
[09:31:27] mishok13: хмхмхм
[09:31:32] _lorien: Там с xmpp понты
[09:31:39] mishok13: а тут все хабр читают?
[09:31:55] _lorien: Неизвестно
[09:32:00] mishok13: потому что я не читаю и мне такая фича не будет жизнь отравлять
[09:32:36] mishok13: короче, как другие модеры решат :)
[09:34:21] _lorien: в принципе туда можно лор подключить или опеннент какой-нить
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[09:36:47] mishok13: я думаю, фильтр по тегу python желателен в любом случае
[09:37:36] Vit@liy: не проще ли рсс подписать?
[09:39:57] mishok13: ваще да
[09:40:06] _lorien: как это?
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[09:41:10] Муркт: _lorien: кому интересно - пусть на рсс подпишется
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[09:41:28] Vit@liy: http://habrahabr.ru/rss/ и http://habrahabr.ru/rss/tag/python/
[09:41:47] _lorien: дыкть щас и так rss обрабатывается :D
[09:42:03] _lorien: http://dumpz.org/10075/
[09:42:23] Vit@liy: :)
[09:42:36] Vit@liy: ну так и смысл тогда в боте, заточенном под хабр?
[09:43:07] _lorien: Мне видится такая трансляция новостей, как фактор, стимулирующий общение на канале )
[09:43:21] Vit@liy: Интересный довод
[09:43:40] Vit@liy: А как же тематика канала? :)
[09:44:10] Vit@liy: Код можно скопипастить? Не копирайт? :)
[09:44:21] _lorien: public domain или как там
[09:44:29] _lorien: короче, чо хочешь, то и делай :D
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[11:33:39] Большой Лис: nigerian gaz
[11:33:41] Большой Лис: чо
[11:33:45] Большой Лис: =]
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[11:38:38] Большой Лис: эти зануды развели ещё скулёж по поводу полит-корректности
[11:38:39] Большой Лис: уроды
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[11:51:54] habrabot: Информационная безопасность / Slow Lori атака на веб-сервер Apache (http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/62980/)
Блог компании Evernote Corporation / Совместный доступ к блокнотам: В начале большого пути (http://habrahabr.ru/company/evernote/blog/62969/)
JavaScript / Делюсь книгой: Javascript. Подробное руководство, Дэвид Флэнаган; 5-е издание (http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/javascript/62962/)
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[11:52:07] _lorien: :D
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[11:55:04] Большой Лис: хуясе
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[11:57:18] xa4a: /me чо-то пропустил
[11:57:48] Большой Лис: xa4a, нене, ты как раз всё видел :]
[11:58:24] xa4a: kbyrb ,s cltkjk [jnz ,s
[11:58:30] xa4a: линки бы сделол хотя бы)
[11:58:49] _lorien: как это?
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[11:59:53] xa4a: ну..
[11:59:56] xa4a: в сообщении
[12:00:11] _lorien: Так они ж там есть
[12:00:34] _lorien: У меня автоматом в gajim активные линки делаются, если ты это имеешь в виду
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[12:00:51] xa4a: да, это
[12:00:59] xa4a: у меня автоматом не делаются, похоже
[12:01:31] _lorien: http://yandex.ru
[12:01:34] _lorien: А эта сделалась?
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[12:02:13] mishok13: небось надо галочку в настройках копыта/кюте поставить
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[12:05:02] xa4a: да
[12:05:15] xa4a: а
[12:05:18] xa4a: небось скобки)
[12:05:42] xa4a: хотя вон жуйк - вообще посылает линки в виде id сообщения
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[12:35:55] Большой Лис: http://matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/css-reddit-alien
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[13:18:18] xa4a: никто не знает, где бы подешевле в буковель на зиму абонементы найти :)
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[13:26:12] xa4a: Продается горнолыжный комплекс ТОВ "Драгобрат" с землею 1,94 га
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[13:26:37] xa4a: чё-то цены там нашёл только на жильё
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[13:30:45] mishok13: приезжаешь в Ясиня и ходишь по хатам
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[13:31:41] xa4a: а подъёмники?
[13:32:02] mishok13: тебя цены на подьемники интересуют?
[13:32:16] xa4a: да
[13:33:02] mishok13: в районе по-моему, на самый дорогой там 150 грн за 10 подьемов
[13:33:33] xa4a: в буковеле, если с утра брать - 100 на целый день на всех
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[13:34:57] xa4a: а сейчас у них на сайте можно взять типа "заранее" всего за 170 на день
[13:35:08] xa4a: должно же где-то быть меньше 100)
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[13:35:30] nmk: майкл джексон умер.. а я и не знал
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[13:36:48] mishok13: xa4a, не знаю, в каком ты буковеле был
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[13:37:08] mishok13: но там самый дешевый бугель стоил от 150 грн в день
[13:37:49] mishok13: этой зимой
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[13:39:28] xa4a: абонемент на день - около 200грн, а с 8 до 9 утра - акция - 50% стоимости
[13:39:43] piranha: mishok13: а шо с посольством голландии?
[13:40:07] mishok13: дерьмоеды они, блять
[13:40:15] piranha: не пустили?
[13:40:21] mishok13: пока еще нет
[13:40:27] piranha: ну т.е. еще не отказали?
[13:40:32] mishok13: заставили расписать маршрут посещения ПОЧАСОВО
[13:40:35] mishok13: это пиздец
[13:40:43] mishok13: заставили покупать travel cheques
[13:40:56] piranha: ого
[13:40:58] piranha: куяс
[13:41:07] mishok13: при том что выписка из банка есть
[13:41:13] mishok13: им просто пох
[13:41:47] mishok13: а, ну да, еще просили на приглашении мокрую печать
[13:42:02] nmk: mishok13: а нах тебе голландия? :)
[13:42:26] mishok13: пришлось им обьяснять, что мокрые печати у общественных организаций в Европе отсутствуют
[13:42:39] mishok13: nmk, там конференция openstreetmap'овская
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[13:42:57] mishok13: куча народу связанного с GIS сьезжается
[13:43:14] nmk: ну ты хоть накурись там как пологается :)
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[13:46:21] mishok13: я не употребляю наркотики
[13:46:46] mishok13: я бы лучше этих идиотов в посольстве накурил
[13:47:02] nmk: так они уже наверное. ;)
[13:47:18] nmk: посольство же вроде как считается территорией той страны, которое оно представляет :P
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[13:51:50] habrabot: Гаджеты. Устройства для гиков / USB-миниатюра Thumbkey http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/gadgets/62988/
Windows 7 / Microsoft раскрыла розничные цены на Windows 7 http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/windows7/62970/
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[13:52:08] mishok13: nmk, у них там на крыше оранжерея
[13:52:14] mishok13: так что вполне возможно
[13:52:25] mishok13: непонятно тогда, чего они такие противные
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[14:09:12] mishok13: piranha, тебе кстати имя Антон Попов о чем-то говорит?
[14:09:42] piranha: одногруппник
[14:09:46] piranha: а что?
[14:10:22] mishok13: у нас вот работает теперт
[14:10:26] mishok13: *теперь :)
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[14:11:21] piranha: хехе :)))
[14:11:22] piranha: найс
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[14:44:05] piranha is now There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
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[14:51:51] habrabot: Железо / Быстрая и большая карта SDHC от Sandisk http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/hardware/62975/
Дизайн / Magic Stone концепт мобильного конструктора http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/design/62982/
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[14:58:57] Большой Лис: я вот думаю
[14:58:59] Большой Лис: забанить его
[14:59:01] Большой Лис: или оставить
[14:59:09] Большой Лис: вроде бы безвредный спам
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[14:59:31] Typhon: забанить
[14:59:35] Typhon: бесит :)
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[15:03:29] piranha is now There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
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[15:04:24] mishok13: ну что, пришла пора прикрутить голосовалку
[15:04:36] mishok13: или провести опрос среди админов
[15:05:07] xa4a: у меня хабр в рссе
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[15:05:25] xa4a: так что я за то, чтобы прикрутить какой-то другой фид
[15:06:07] mishok13: xa4a: против, с замечаниями; mishok13: пофигу; _lorien: за;
[15:06:19] mishok13: ждем мнения остальных
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[15:25:24] nmk: я за бан.
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[15:31:27] Большой Лис: я против бана
[15:31:58] Большой Лис: !decide забанить незабанить
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[15:32:08] Большой Лис: вот как всё просто решилось =]
[15:32:33] _lorien: я не за
[15:32:45] _lorien: я просто предложил прикольную фичу )
[15:33:11] _lorien: можно опеннет или лор прикрутить, больше идей нет
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[15:33:30] Большой Лис: _lorien, дак это твой бот? feedbot@jabber.ru
[15:33:34] _lorien: а ну или фид с pydev.ru/community/
[15:33:40] _lorien: Большой Лис, ага
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[15:34:21] Большой Лис: ну тоды оставим :)
[15:34:35] Большой Лис: silent_bob, не ревнуй
[15:34:49] Большой Лис: :D
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[17:37:32] RaD: как использовать ростер в xmpp, чтобы получить статус удалённого аккаунта?
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[17:38:05] RaD: мне инициализированный ростер возвращает None на авторизованный онлайновый аккаунт
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[17:42:43] xa4a: контакт неавторизованный
[17:42:48] xa4a: читать спеки дальше, может?
[17:43:02] RaD: авторизованный, я вручную все авторизовал
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[17:43:35] RaD: через GUI клиенты
[17:43:56] RaD: мессаги рассылает отлично, кстати, ссылочку на спеку подкинешь?
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[17:44:34] xpahos: http://xmpp.org/extensions/
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[17:45:10] Хрюндель: кто то новый эклипс пробовал?
[17:45:29] RaD: пасиб
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[17:46:16] RaD: фигасе, прям с начала читать :)
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[17:46:32] Хрюндель: что то дофига админов развелось.. на каждого активного юзера по два админа..
[17:47:16] RaD: осталось понять какой из четырёх херов читать
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[17:51:40] mishok13: Хрюндель, админов -- 2, модеров -- 4
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[17:53:01] Хрюндель: Предлагаю меня взять в админы, будет 3 админа и 7 человек в управлении.. счастливое число..
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[17:54:16] mishok13: жидомасонов не допустим к власти
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[17:54:32] Хрюндель: mishok13, они уже там..
[17:54:50] Хрюндель: славоник уже отращивает пейсы
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[17:55:03] Хрюндель: Лор тоже на израиль работает
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[17:55:33] Хрюндель: Да и ты вроде как с израилем как то связан, не? Помню ты что то говорил что сюда в командировку летал
[17:55:51] mishok13: уже не связан
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[18:46:40] piranha is now There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
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[18:53:05] RaD: бывших не бывает :)
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[19:05:12] _lorien: кто-нить работал с jquery ui табами?
У меня есть a:hover стиль глобальный и он портит hover у этих жкверевских табов (
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[19:06:43] xpahos: _lorien, ну и убери его
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[19:07:16] _lorien: кого убрать?
[19:07:18] xpahos: ну или используй !important для переопределения у табов
[19:07:28] _lorien: убрать не могу, он же мне нужен
[19:07:44] tilarids: _lorien, подправить ксс у табов
[19:07:45] xpahos: _lorien, сделай класс для ссылок и укажи классу hover
[19:07:57] _lorien: проблема, что я я пока не понял, чо там переопределять, там сильно новороченный этот jquery ui :D
[19:08:16] tilarids: _lorien, поставь firebug
[19:08:17] xpahos: ui-tab или что-то в этом роде должно быть
[19:08:44] xpahos: там вроде классы все начинаются с ui-<контрол>-и еще что-то
[19:09:30] _lorien: .ui-state-hover a, .ui-state-hover a:hover { color: #0070a3; text-decoration: none; outline: none; }
ну да, я вот такое нашёл
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[19:44:02] cutwater: Народ... стал свидетелем нового отжига от Стаса
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[19:44:17] cutwater: http://dumpz.org/10092/
телефонный справочник написанный для Мамы :D
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[19:44:57] Optik: Стас, который писал бота и "помогите"?
[19:45:43] Stanislav Pugachev: легендарный какойто стас
[19:45:59] Portnov: это просто праздник какойто :)
[19:46:09] Stanislav Pugachev: это тот который написал какойто мега крутой учебник по питону
[19:46:14] cutwater: он самый
[19:46:15] Stanislav Pugachev: я так понимаю )
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[19:47:04] Portnov: это ж скока мухоморов сожрать надо чтоб такое написать :)
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[19:47:24] cutwater: :D тут видимо что-то более серьезное принималось
[19:47:54] Optik: или не принималось когда нужно было
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[19:48:03] gigimon: ы

[19:48:05] gigimon: стас отжигает
[19:48:18] gigimon: а что аз учебник? дайте почитать
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[19:49:57] gigimon: Stanislav Pugachev: что за учебник стаса? дай почитать)

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[20:11:49] : xa4a_ установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://itquest.ru/ | Ещё рано использовать py3k
[20:13:14] piranha is now There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
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[20:16:21] Мозгошредер: меркуриал не может удалять именованные бранчи, но зато де-факто можно иметь кучу бранчей ьез имени. интересно, но странно
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[20:22:27] Муркт: Мозгошредер: именованные бранчи можно закрывать
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[20:23:45] RaD: /me не может осознать xmpp roster, проктологи делали\
[20:24:12] xa4a: /me чего-то думает, что ростер - просто список тех, на кого ты подписан
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[20:24:27] xa4a: и пользы кроме списка джидов из него никакой
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[20:24:45] xa4a: а статусы юзеры сами тебе присылают, когда ты входишь, или они меняются
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[20:25:28] RaD: ну да, у меня в ростере два контакта, но вот их статус что-то я получить не могу
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[20:27:17] xa4a: попробуй вручную, может, им соотв iq послать?
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[20:29:55] RaD: ну, я предполагаю библиотека должна уметь это делать
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[20:36:00] RaD: просто надо понять как её использовать, а долбанная поддержка будет исправлять местную локалку только в понедельник, уроды, типа отдыхают
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[20:37:07] xa4a: это типа "инета нет, только жабер"?
[20:37:20] RaD: типа есть жопорез, но это не айс
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[20:41:08] piranha is now There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
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[20:45:56] Мозгошредер: Муркт, знаю. А в гите удалять. А то я боюсь, что наплодю бранчей дфоига, неудобно будет. А политика hg по разным бранчам в разных репах мне как-то не очень прёт :(
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[20:47:11] piranha: бранчи в гите называются букмарками в хг
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[20:47:33] RaD: xa4a: идеи есть по ростеру?
[20:47:37] xa4a: нет
[20:47:45] xa4a: у меня руки до ростера не дошли)
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[20:48:34] RaD: у меня тоже остальное работает :)
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[20:48:42] Хрюндель: Мозгошредер, как ты в гите создаёшь новый бранч с данными от какого то репозитория.. я думал что то типа
git pull /path/to/repo master:flamaster
а оно делает сначала merge моего бранча в котором я в настроящее время с /path/to/file/ master'ом, а только потом создаёт бранч flamaster с данными от /path/to/file/ master
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[20:49:34] Мозгошредер: я не силён, но может не надо указывать мастер?
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[20:50:39] Хрюндель: можно и не указывать, но наверное всё равно тоже самое случится, потому что master это указание бранча в /path/to/file репе
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[21:11:58] RaD: блин, xmpp.Presence нет в API, но есть в либе
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[21:15:07] _lorien: как же нету, вот он:
http://xmpppy.sourceforge.net/apidocs/xmpp.protocol.Presence-class.html
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[21:17:20] RaD: я вот не догоняю, в коде он в xmpp.Presence, а в доке в xmpp.protocol.Presence, как понимать
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[21:19:14] _lorien: видимо, ответ кроется в xmpp/__init__.py :)
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[21:19:56] _lorien: думаю, там что-то типа from xmpp.protocol import Presence в этом __init__.py
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