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[09:47:37] piranha is now To me minimalism is the strongest expression. Sometimes you can just say one word and it’s so powerful.
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[10:55:29] Мозгошредер: hi all
[10:56:29] fandal: hi, cool nickname=)
[10:57:22] piranha: что это за фидбот?
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[10:58:42] _lorien: очередная хуйня от лориена :D
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[11:04:11] Мозгошредер: йа фидбот? о_О
[11:04:23] _lorien: piranha, ты знаешь какой-нить источник python-новостей?
[11:04:42] fandal: python.org =)
[11:06:04] _lorien: http://python.org/news/ - скучно
[11:06:15] piranha: _lorien: reddit.com
[11:06:21] piranha: http://reddit.com/r/Python/
[11:08:18] _lorien: добавлю его, а опеннет выкину, слишком там специфичные новости
[11:08:29] piranha: угу
[11:08:41] piranha: никакого отношения к жизни ;)
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[11:31:41] fandal: вот вам и opennet =) http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=22357
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[11:36:25] _lorien: а можете посоветовать прогу под linux для учёта времени, проведённого над проектом?
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[11:38:41] fandal: недавно что-то такое видел, попробую вспомнить
[11:39:34] Portnov: ktimetracker? :)
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[11:41:58] fandal: GanttProject
OpenProj
TaskJuggler
KPlato
Planner

из всего этого больше всего предпочтений отдано TaskJuggler
[11:42:21] piranha is now To me minimalism is the strongest expression. Sometimes you can just say one word and it’s so powerful.
[11:43:02] Darth Лис: _lorien: gnotime
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[11:50:46] _lorien: в gnotime я не понял как удалять время, знакомый грит, что нельзя
[11:51:02] _lorien: ещё мне удалось в первые пять минут убить программу нажав не туда, не очень впечатляет
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[11:52:42] piranha: омг
[11:52:45] piranha: как зло :)
[11:52:52] _lorien: :D Если канал добавить, он первый раз всегда столько
[11:53:06] _lorien: т.к. в кэше нету никаких новстей с этого канала старых
[11:53:20] _lorien: вообще надо надстройку на max кол-во новостей за раз, но пока лень втыкнуть
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[11:59:01] _lorien: fandal, нет, это всё не то, это программы для управления ходом проекта, а мне просто надо время засекать и комментарии к нему писать
[12:00:04] piranha: http://orgmode.org/
[12:00:06] piranha: :)
[12:00:19] piranha: _lorien: только ж недавно везде пролетало что-то простое для консоли
[12:00:25] piranha: на питоне написанное
[12:00:29] piranha: поищи на pypi?
[12:00:41] Darth Лис: как там называлась программа что бы по сети шарить мышку и клаву
[12:00:46] Darth Лис: меж двумя компами
[12:00:49] _lorien: не хочу в консоли, мне нужна удобная иконка в трее, чтобы я кликал на неё
[12:01:04] Darth Лис: кросплатформеная ещё...
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[12:02:39] piranha: Darth Лис: synergy?
[12:02:42] piranha: как-то так
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[12:05:00] Darth Лис: этож маздайная ОСь
[12:05:04] Darth Лис: эксперементальная
[12:05:38] piranha: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[12:05:53] piranha: даж искать приходится самому... эх
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[12:11:41] Мозгошредер: Darth Лис, микрософтовская ОС - это singularity
[12:13:23] Darth Лис: никуя не понимаю его конфиг
[12:13:35] Darth Лис: в смсле с ходу
[12:13:39] Darth Лис: и вникать шото не вставлят, жарамля
[12:13:43] Darth Лис: мозги плавятся
[12:16:52] fandal: народ
[12:17:33] fandal: сорри, ентер нажал случайно, подскажите модуль который генерирует нормально mysqlnf,kbws d реьд tckb nfrjq tcnm
[12:17:38] fandal: блин
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[12:18:01] fandal: модуль который генерирует вывод запросов mysql в html файлы
[12:18:11] cutwater: эм
[12:18:24] piranha: import mysqldb ;D
[12:19:43] fandal: спасиб, щас гляну
[12:19:50] piranha: :)))
[12:20:00] piranha: ну jinja2 какая-нибудь
[12:21:04] fandal: mysqldb - это _mysql который
[12:21:07] fandal: ?
[12:21:37] piranha: ytn
[12:21:40] piranha: нет
[12:21:47] piranha: это просто модуль для связи с мускулем
[12:21:55] piranha: вытягиваешь и потом с помощью каких-то темплейтов рендеришь
[12:23:14] fandal: эх, буду дальше учится))))
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[12:41:31] Александp: кто сталкивался с SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM ?
файл сохранён в utf-8
пробовал ставить галочку BOM и убирать, один результат
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[12:55:37] RaD: Александp: привет вендовому редактору
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[12:57:18] RaD: камрады, подскажите софтинку (linux) для каталогизации дисков, у меня куча видео в DV, надо его дампить на DVD, занимает 3-4 диска
[12:58:08] RaD: Александp: в начало файла тебе понаписали BOM сигнатуру, напиши на питоне скрипт для её выкусывания, у меня такая на работе, так что не помогу
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[12:58:52] RaD: вот думаю мож на джанго написать каталогизатор, ткнул в название, на тебе и описание и скриншотики и номера дисков на которых это всё лежит
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[12:59:53] piranha: RaD: так есть же куча такого софта
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[13:01:00] RaD: посоветуй что-нить из личного опыта, убивать время не перебор не хочется
[13:01:36] piranha: эх, под линух ничего такого не юзал
[13:01:40] RaD: вот, что есть в репозитории:
gnomecatalog - catalog CD, DVD and hard disk files
gtktalog - Disk catalog
gwhere - Removable media catalog manager

[13:01:45] piranha: просто ну реально ж его миллионы...
[13:04:37] RaD: интересно, какой из них может синхронизировать свои данные с внешним репозиторием
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[13:05:25] piranha: хмммм... внешний репозиторий == какой-то сервис или твой сервак?
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[13:15:37] RaD: наверное мой
[13:15:48] piranha: тогда такое что-то может быть :)))
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[14:00:03] Александp: а есть какой-нибудь стандартныйсигнал для update в django?
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[14:03:37] _lorien: вроде б нету, можно посмотреть django-reversion как он сохраняет изменения
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[14:15:21] Portnov: _lorien, а в нём можно отключить вот эту большущую панель вверху окна чата? Или уменьшить хотя бы...
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[14:17:21] piranha: http://metalua.luaforge.net/src/samples/pysample.lua.html
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[14:31:50] bergamot: а можно в админке джанго в зависимости от прав добавлять отображаемые поля?
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[14:51:53] feedbot: Python Web Framework Series – Pylons: Part 3 Views with Mako http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8wd7i/python_web_framework_series_pylons_part_3_views/
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[16:17:21] _lorien: bergamot, наверное, да, читай про переопределение форм для админки
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[16:19:28] _lorien: Portnov, можно, в advancde настройках --> hide_groupchat_banner
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[16:51:53] feedbot: GemRB V0.5.0 http://www.linux.org.ru/view-message.jsp?msgid=3825251
Вышел Python 3.1 http://www.linux.org.ru/view-message.jsp?msgid=3825320
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[16:57:00] Portnov: _lorien, спасибо )
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[20:20:46] _lorien: какое-нить стандартное приложение для джанги есть, которым делают картинки + разные размеры?
[20:22:00] pit: _lorien: PIL
[20:22:24] pit: _lorien: ссылку дать ?
[20:22:39] _lorien: я имею в виду более высокий уровень: поле для форм, темплейт тэги
[20:23:20] sevenov: _lorien, на джангосниппетсах есть филд
[20:23:22] pit: на форуме писал ?
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[20:24:19] _lorien: да сниппеты у меня и самого есть - самописные :D
[20:24:28] _lorien: Интересует что-то более-менее стандартное.
[20:25:04] pit: блин к нету придётся подключаться :)
[20:25:21] pit: думаю библиотека должно быть
[20:25:55] pit: гдето спрятана :) в недрах python.org
[20:26:24] pit: только думаю на джангу это повесить будет не просто :)
[20:26:29] pit: по началу :)
[20:28:58] _lorien: я вообще не понимаю, о чём ты говоришь
[20:33:11] pit: _lorien: на python.org есть же список программ и библиотек написанных на питоне , я предположил - что можно взять готовый продукт и запихнуть его в джангу .. правда думаю это будет мутарно
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[20:39:56] RaD: муторно будет осознать как это делать вообще, а в джангу впихнётся потом нараз
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[20:41:11] pit: RaD: в общем если со структурой разобраться то потом кк по маслу ты прав :)
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[20:44:40] RaD: вот я ростер до сих пор не осознал, но в этом виноват провайдер :) а жопорез - это ужас принуждения
[20:45:49] pit: а ты что в ж... та такой :) или дорого всё остальное ?
[20:46:09] RaD: по выходным провайдер отдыхает
[20:46:48] RaD: его ниииииипут проблемы пользователей, там видать роутер подвис, так как физический линк есть, а вот пакеты на первом хопе исчезают безвозвратно
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[20:47:20] RaD: видать придётся брать канал от другого прова
[20:47:29] RaD: ибо задрало
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[20:49:08] pit: RaD: советую взыть несколько каналов с разных провов .. или дополниться радио на другом прове , и поставить свой шлюз + запросить BGP
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[20:50:10] pit: zebra к примеру тебе может помочь , однако если хочешь качественное поподание покетов советую постораться найти координатора
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[20:52:54] RaD: у меня есть второй пров, надо только сделать заказ, но на выхах они его не принимают :) по любому ждать понедельника, осталось немного
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[23:08:06] piranha is now To me minimalism is the strongest expression. Sometimes you can just say one word and it’s so powerful.
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[23:45:26] pit: народ я тут подумал ....
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[23:45:50] pit: [66.25, 333, -1, 333, 1, 1234.5, 333]
>>> a.index(333)
1
[23:45:51] sevenov: pit, за это стоит выпить
[23:46:16] pit: а что делать со 2м значением
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[23:46:34] pit: которое имеет индекс 3
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[23:47:13] pit: remove в цикл запускать :)))
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[23:49:05] sevenov: pit, что сделать-то хочешь?
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[23:53:49] Александp: post_save.connect(self._signal_callback, sender=User)
поставил на модель отлов сигнала. Сигнал не ловится. Как можно выявить причину?
[23:53:55] pit: sevenov: да просто книжку перечитываю .. и чем чаще это делать тем больше понимать начинаешь , и вопросы вазникают
[23:54:12] pit: и вопросы вОзникают*
[23:54:36] sevenov: Александp, покрути антенку.
[23:55:12] Александp: sevenov, уже
[23:55:25] Александp: может есть какой-то стек посланых сигнало
[23:55:27] Александp: в
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[23:55:46] pit: Александp: у тебя какая антена и какая картачка ?
[23:56:21] pit: Александp: примерная дальность какая ?
[23:56:37] Александp: pit, второй раз не уже смешно
[23:57:10] pit: у меня нет части чата
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[23:59:07] piranha is now To me minimalism is the strongest expression. Sometimes you can just say one word and it’s so powerful.