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[02:49:06] огыешсук: Большой Лис: я транковой версией фокса пользоваться перестал оттого, что шрифты стали мягко говоря странно выглядеть. Теперь жду когда в дистрибутив фокс приползёт. Авось дистрибюторы о шрифтах позаботятся.
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[04:51:55] feedbot: source code to django project that runs everyblock.com released http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8x5al/source_code_to_django_project_that_runs/
EveryBlock goes Open Source, lots of Python+Django goodness http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8x5dc/everyblock_goes_open_source_lots_of_pythondjango/
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[05:32:17] : xa4a_ установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://itquest.ru/ | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[11:09:21] slav0nic: http://www.everyblock.com/code/ гавнакод какой-та
[11:09:37] slav0nic: return HttpResponseRedirect('../../../') гы
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[11:16:41] Большой Лис: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/html-5-snapshot-2009/
[11:16:56] Большой Лис: html5 рвётся вперёд =]
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[12:00:01] xa4a: сколько цена Apple PowerMac G5 1.8 ГГц 3Гб ОЗУ б/у?
[12:00:36] Муркт: xa4a: он же powerpc?
[12:00:47] piranha: g5
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[12:00:51] piranha: очевидно, что поверписи
[12:00:53] Большой Лис: $100500
[12:00:56] piranha: ;)))
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[12:01:11] piranha: xa4a: а за скока предлагают?
[12:01:21] xa4a: $750
[12:01:31] Муркт: я бы не купил
[12:01:35] piranha: многовато
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[12:01:45] piranha: xa4a: посмотри на конфигурацию и цену мак мини
[12:02:00] xa4a: Apple PowerMac G5 1.8 ГГц 3Гб ОЗУ CD-ROM – Pioneer DVD-RW BVR 112B, GeForce FX 5200 (64Мб), ОС – Mac OS X 10.4.11 Apple, HDD 150Гб.
[12:02:18] piranha: еще и 10.4, придëццо или покупать, или ставить перацкую
[12:02:31] xa4a: а, стоп. нах мне мак? тем более десктоп.
[12:02:36] xa4a: :D
[12:02:43] piranha: xa4a: в общем, посмотри на макмини. Они по-моему столько же стоят, только конфиг получше
[12:02:45] piranha: тем более
[12:02:53] piranha: мак-десктоп - это что-то странное
[12:03:06] Большой Лис: xa4a, :D
[12:03:14] Большой Лис: piranha, а моники?
[12:03:21] piranha: шутишь?
[12:03:22] Большой Лис: к ним же ещё монег отдельно надо покупать
[12:03:24] piranha: это для извращенцев
[12:03:25] Большой Лис: а он сука стоит пипец
[12:03:30] piranha: моник можно любой
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[12:03:38] piranha: слушай, ну ты ж не страдаешь фгм
[12:03:44] piranha: вчера с чуваком говорил
[12:03:51] piranha: ну случайно кто-то упомянул, что у меня макбук
[12:04:13] piranha: и он такой: "фу, бля, маки - это сраная религия! Я мышку покупаю за 80 грн, а к ним она стоит сто баксов!"
[12:04:38] piranha: пипец, у кого религия - у меня или у него? Купи к маку мышку за 80 грн, кто мешает? Тем более я вот не пользуюсь, кроме как при игре в кваку - тут тачпад нормальный
[12:04:48] piranha: вот это реально фгм
[12:05:05] xa4a: piranha: у тебя к маку мышка за 80грн?
[12:05:19] piranha: у меня две мышки, одна 80 грн, одна 300 грн
[12:05:29] piranha: но у меня они еще с тех пор, когда мака не было
[12:05:32] Муркт: она стоила 300 давным давно =)
[12:05:35] piranha: ну да
[12:05:40] piranha: 60 баксов точнее говоря :)
[12:05:41] Муркт: сейчас такие наверное по 800 продают
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[12:05:58] piranha: не, гривен по 500 по-моему
[12:06:07] xa4a: 7.74 сегодня, кстати уже в обменках
[12:06:10] Муркт: наверное из старых запасов :))
[12:06:15] Муркт: xa4a: было меньше?
[12:06:18] xa4a: було 7.6
[12:06:21] xa4a: пару дней назад
[12:06:23] Муркт: ага
[12:06:32] xa4a: *было
[12:06:37] piranha: в субботу было 7.7
[12:06:44] piranha: так шо не цей во
[12:07:10] xa4a: а. ну у меня суббота-воскресенье-понедельник выпали)
[12:07:24] piranha: вот видишь, пару дней ;)
[12:07:27] piranha: уже почти неделю ;)))
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[12:08:31] Большой Лис: Apple Display
Connect your Mac mini to a 24-inch Apple LED Cinema Display, which features a built-in iSight camera, microphone, and speakers.
[12:08:51] Большой Лис: Apple LED Cinema Display (24" flat panel) [Add $899.00]
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[12:09:25] xa4a: монитор без шифтбека и кофеварки?
[12:09:29] xa4a: No way!
[12:09:43] Большой Лис: :D
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[12:52:32] Мозгошредер: хм, я так понимаю tasks в hg более близкий аналог git lightweight branches, чем bookmarks?
[12:53:14] cutwater: товарищи, вопрос такой. задачка есть написать специфичного бота для жабры на питоне
[12:53:24] cutwater: вот собственно насколько подходит для этого twitter
[12:53:29] cutwater: ой
[12:53:31] cutwater: twisted
[12:53:44] cutwater: или есть что либо более расово правильное?
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[12:55:37] Хрюндель: Мозгошредер, tasks в hg по моему это stash в git
[12:55:47] cutwater: что мне в нем не понравилось так это DeprecationWarning
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[12:56:58] xa4a: cutwater: ну исправь импорт один
[12:57:01] xa4a: два, может
[12:57:09] cutwater: ясно. ок.
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[13:00:03] Мозгошредер: Хрюндель, хм, я тут посмотрел, по-моему таски гораздо больше возможностей предоставляют
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[13:00:52] Хрюндель: Мозгошредер, я только одну минуту глядел hg таски, поэтому точно сказать не могу.
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[13:03:25] Мозгошредер: Хрюндель, т.е. ты приверженец идеологии хг: один бранч - один репозиторий?
[13:04:53] Хрюндель: да.. я вообще бранчи в hg никогда не юзал (может потому что не знаю как их юзать)
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[13:06:45] Большой Лис: Мозгошредер, юзай гит :)
[13:06:58] Большой Лис: или плоди репы
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[13:07:11] Мозгошредер: да мне лишь одной этой фичи и не хватает в хг :)
[13:07:20] Большой Лис: агаг
[13:07:32] Большой Лис: и мне не хватало в своё время
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[13:07:41] Мозгошредер: хотя таски вроде могут помочь
[13:07:49] Мозгошредер: Большой Лис, ты на гите?
[13:07:57] Большой Лис: ога
[13:08:02] Мозгошредер: а базаар не вертел?
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[13:08:10] Большой Лис: неа
[13:08:13] Большой Лис: т.е. вертел
[13:08:15] Большой Лис: на хую
[13:08:17] Хрюндель: ыыы
[13:08:17] Большой Лис: :D
[13:08:56] Хрюндель: Я тоже щас на гите :)
[13:09:14] Хрюндель: но заказал книгу по hg, может там чего вычитаю и вернусь
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[13:10:19] Мозгошредер: ту которая на redbean.com?
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[13:15:39] Большой Лис: Мозгошредер, насколько я сйечас понял в bzr нет аналога git-овых бранчей
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[13:16:10] Большой Лис: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar/2008q4/049894.html
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[13:23:40] Мозгошредер: /me ушёл тестить таски
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[13:34:44] Мозгошредер: хм, ну это достаточно похоже на гитовские
[13:34:58] Мозгошредер: единственно, что после мержа таски закрываются
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[13:35:36] Большой Лис: есть ещё деталь
[13:35:43] Большой Лис: эти бранчи локальные
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[13:35:54] Большой Лис: и в ремоут ты их не згрузишь
[13:36:39] Мозгошредер: ну чейнджсеты загружу
[13:36:45] Typhon: mishok13: с `yield from` какие-то продвижения есть, не в курсе? а то пеп драфт, в мейллистах вроде не видно ничего нового
[13:36:46] Мозгошредер: названия их - не загружу :)
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[13:56:51] piranha is now There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
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[13:59:32] лорд Морфий is now Надпись "выполнено 99%" радует только первые три часа.
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[14:00:33] mishok13: Typhon, в 3.2 может быть
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[14:00:58] mishok13: я думаю, Грег подождет еще пару месяцев, потом опять начнет продвигать эту фичу
[14:01:17] Муркт: Грег Вард?
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[14:06:18] mishok13: а чо все так дрочат на этот EveryBlock?
[14:06:36] mishok13: это потому что там Адриан Головатый -- фаундер или чо?
[14:07:19] piranha: fuf
[14:07:21] piranha: угу
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[14:17:57] xa4a: мэ..
[14:18:13] Typhon: mishok13: а блог не думаешь чинить :)
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[14:18:23] xa4a: Registering '@mozilla.org/module-loader/python;1' (libpyloader.so)Registering '@mozilla.org/network/protocol/about;1?what=python' (pyabout.py)Registering '@mozilla.org/module-loader/python;1' (libpyloader.so)Registering '@mozilla.org/network/protocol/about;1?what=python' (pyabout.py)
[14:18:35] xa4a: ну и в about:python чо-то появилось
[14:18:39] xa4a: как это понимать?
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[14:18:59] mishok13: Typhon, у меня совсем времени нету :)))
[14:19:05] xa4a: а. pyxpcom.
[14:19:27] Typhon: mishok13: с голландией хуйня какая-то, я так понял?
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[14:20:51] mishok13: да вот туда на SOTM выступать еду и готовлю всяческие демки
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[14:21:01] mishok13: ну и голландское посольство -- уебаны
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[14:23:53] mishok13: кстати, блог не поломанный, он просто переведен на zine и надо добавить rewrite в конфиг nginx'а и rss перенаправить
[14:24:40] slav0nic: марихуанщики)
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[14:28:42] mishok13: пидарасы, скорее
[14:29:38] piranha: ох и не говорите о пидарасах
[14:29:43] piranha: только что ехал, передо мной сцука газель сраная
[14:30:02] piranha: прижимается вправо, я начинаю объезжать, он включает левый поворот и начинает разворачиваться
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[14:30:07] piranha: вот это сука пидарас
[14:30:21] piranha: вспотел так, шо никакой кондишен не помог %)
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[15:05:29] piranha is now There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
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[15:28:02] indieman: import os, sys
sys.path.append('C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\django')
sys.path.append('C:\Python25\djcode\jemimasoft')
os.environ['DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE'] = 'settings.py'
import django.core.handlers.wsgi
application = django.core.handlers.wsgi.WSGIHandler()
[15:28:17] indieman: человеки, подскажите в чем ошибка
[15:28:31] indieman: сорри, что код сюда. но вроде мало строк.
[15:28:52] indieman: пути все верные.
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[15:28:52] piranha: а проблема какая?
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[15:29:06] indieman: пробую тестовое wsgi запустить. все ок
[15:29:10] indieman: другое.
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[15:29:33] indieman: ну ээ) как бы не работает))) там должно запуститься джанго приложение хеллоу ворлд
[15:29:53] piranha: а что в итоге?
[15:29:55] indieman: если через manage.py запустить, то все ок.
[15:29:59] piranha: ошибка какая-то выдаëтся?
[15:30:04] piranha: а как ты запускаешь?
[15:30:05] indieman: в итогде 500
[15:30:12] piranha: os.environ['DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE'] = 'settings.py <http://settings.py/>'
os.environ['DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE'] = 'settings <http://settings.py/>'
[15:30:16] piranha: вот собсна ошибка
[15:30:34] piranha: там он хочет видеть не имя файла, а питоновский модуль
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[15:30:56] indieman: эм... а где он есть? в проекте там только такой файл есть.
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[15:31:16] piranha: ну settings.py - это модуль setting
[15:31:18] piranha: *settings
[15:31:50] indieman: т.е. убрать расширение просто?
[15:31:58] indieman: это не помогает.
[15:32:14] indieman: а. да в коде там просто сеттинг используют
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[15:33:03] piranha: ок, а как ты запускаешь, если не через manage.py?
[15:33:15] indieman: ну у мя виртуальный хост на апаче
[15:33:23] indieman: зовется он test
[15:33:27] indieman: просто захожу туда
[15:34:08] piranha: покажи конфиг
[15:34:18] piranha: в смысле виртуалхост только
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[15:34:49] indieman: <VirtualHost localhost:80>
ServerAdmin admin
DocumentRoot "C:/xampp/htdocs/test"
ServerName test
WSGIScriptAlias / C:/xampp/htdocs/test/django.wsgi
[15:34:56] indieman: больше там ничего. только закрывалка
[15:34:59] piranha: ага
[15:35:05] piranha: хммм
[15:35:07] indieman: вообще. если меняю django.wsgi, то все ок.
[15:35:27] piranha: т.е. django.wsgi просто валяется не рядом с кодом, а так всë ок?
[15:35:28] indieman: т.е. ставлю другой, который просто хеллоу ворлд выводит, то все работает
[15:35:33] piranha: ага
[15:35:49] indieman: ну да. он лежит в папке документ рут
[15:35:54] indieman: а проект лежит в другой
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[15:36:05] indieman: в подпапке питона
[15:36:17] piranha: ну документ рут ни на что не влияет
[15:36:21] piranha: но всë выглядит нормально довольно
[15:37:04] indieman: а где-нибудь ошибки нельзя более конкретно посмотреть?
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[15:37:28] indieman: логи куда-нибудь идут? а то 500 как-то не информативно)
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[15:38:54] piranha: indieman: в эррор лог
[15:39:02] piranha: должны по крайней мере
[15:39:13] indieman: ой))) спасибо. все заработало.
[15:39:21] indieman: просто какие-то символы и кодировка
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[15:39:35] piranha: :)
[15:39:37] piranha: кул
[15:39:39] indieman: вернее, еще не все заработало. но уже запустился джанго)
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[15:39:48] piranha: ага
[15:39:52] indieman: и выругался на меня)
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[16:14:25] piranha: в стдлиб у питона есть что-то вменяемое, чем можно быстренько распарсить хтмл, чтоб не получать зависимость на бьютифулсуп?
[16:15:00] piranha: htmllib - нормальное?
[16:15:06] piranha: Deprecated since version 2.6: The htmllib module has been removed in Python 3.0.
[16:15:09] piranha: мдя
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[16:16:31] mishok13: HTMLParser?
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[16:16:46] piranha: он какой-то стрëмный
[16:16:57] mishok13: sgmllib?
[16:16:59] piranha: надо писать наследника от него, чтоб получить что-то внятное...
[16:17:01] piranha: какая-то лажа
[16:17:16] piranha: мне б по сути тупо по айдишникам искать и всë
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[16:17:26] piranha: Deprecated since version 2.6: The sgmllib module has been removed in Python 3.0.
[16:17:48] mishok13: тады не выё и пользуйся bs
[16:17:54] piranha: так и буду
[16:18:00] piranha: ацтой, а не стдлиб
[16:18:18] Typhon: и деревьев нету, ужас просто )
[16:18:25] piranha: деревья?
[16:18:38] Typhon: ну BST всякие :)
[16:18:42] piranha: а
[16:18:58] piranha: ну меня не трогает, отсутствие хтмл-парсера в стдлибе - это куда тупее прикол ;)
[16:20:21] mishok13: HTMLParser
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[16:20:40] mishok13: а тащить монстров типа bs или lxml в stdlib -- тупо
[16:20:49] piranha: ну а хтмлпарсер - убожество
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[16:23:13] mishok13: ты серьезно считаешь что BS надо в stdlib включить или что?
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[16:24:12] slav0nic: piranha, ну bs вроде через HTMLParser воркает
[16:24:12] piranha: нет, конечно, ты что
[16:24:20] piranha: slav0nic: хз
[16:24:30] mishok13: воркал
[16:24:41] piranha: mishok13: я считаю, что в стдлибе должно быть что-то более-менее внятное для парсинга сгмл
[16:24:46] piranha: а в 3.0 его нету
[16:24:49] mishok13: сейчас через html5lib
[16:24:50] piranha: ну хотя бы хтмл, если не сгмл
[16:24:55] slav0nic: ну да, ща html5lib вроде
[16:25:08] piranha: я вот посмотрел на апи HTMLParser и это просто ужасно
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[16:26:35] mishok13: а я вообще считаю что парсить HTML никому не надо, кроме авторов браузеров -- чо дальше?
[16:26:43] piranha: хм
[16:26:44] mishok13: тебя не устраивает API -- предложи лучше
[16:26:52] piranha: я и занимаюсь этим
[16:26:57] piranha: только я ж не могу на все фронты работать? :Р
[16:27:16] piranha: а на тему парсить хтмл только авторов браузера - это если жить в идеальном мире
[16:27:27] piranha: в симсах
[16:27:39] mishok13: ну так в идеальном мире и все API -- идеальные, да?
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[16:28:19] piranha: mishok13: питон куда приятнее обычного состояния реального мира, но в некоторых местах жуть берëт
[16:28:42] piranha: например, optparse явно придумал чувак, у которого ооп головного мозга
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[16:33:19] piranha: джанга развращает :(
[16:33:53] nmk: а никто не встречал жавовского DataOutputStream на питоне написаного?
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[16:34:22] cuprum13: цсс
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[16:39:50] piranha: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=682101
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[17:20:29] mr.oduvan: re.match(r'\<(.*)', 'we <df>', re.U)
[17:20:49] mr.oduvan: что за глюк, почему это не работает?
[17:21:01] piranha: search
[17:21:14] piranha: если доку внимательно почитать, то станет понятно, почему
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[17:21:39] mr.oduvan: ))
[17:21:41] mr.oduvan: дякую
[17:21:52] piranha: приходьте ще
[17:21:54] mr.oduvan: с докой каждой может..
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[17:28:52] sevenov: mr.oduvan, кстати, доки доставляют.
[17:29:08] sevenov: покури еще этих воздушных доков...
[17:29:19] piranha: who я
[17:29:26] mr.oduvan: чаво?
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[17:29:57] sevenov: mr.oduvan, faq
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[17:29:59] sevenov: )
[17:30:41] sevenov: Да жуйк не работает, на хабре зобанен, вот и слонаюсь по конфам. То там накакаю, то тут.
[17:31:27] mr.oduvan: (даже не представляю, что тебя могли забанить)
[17:31:36] mr.oduvan: слушай!!
[17:31:40] mr.oduvan: мож тебе работу найти?
[17:31:44] sevenov: Щорт, убило, что jabberd2 жрет оперативы чуть менее, чем ejabberd.
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[17:32:29] sevenov: mr.oduvan, меня нынещняя (бля, забыл, как пишется это слово щЩ) ставка устраивает.
[17:33:14] mr.oduvan: бабушке правда не хватает, а мне нормально..
[17:33:18] mr.oduvan: )))
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[17:35:07] sevenov: piranha, щорт, почти верно написал.
[17:35:25] sevenov: Пойду кофя высосу что ли.
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[18:14:14] _lorien: http://dumpz.org/10246/ - кто-нить понимает в чём проблема? Это я пытаюсь поставить пипом пакеты. На домашней тачке всё ок, а на серверы грабли.
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[18:31:35] _lorien: решилось заменой setuptools из lenny на setuptools с pypy.python.org
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[18:32:46] mr.oduvan: NameError: global name 'log' is not defined
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[18:40:01] _lorien: Можно прокомментировать?
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[18:46:01] mr.oduvan: не
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[18:46:16] mr.oduvan: просто я подумал, что это очень странно.. и тебе надо об этом ззнать
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[18:58:05] sevenov: Хы. Хуясе зачистка. В ростере из 95 контактов нужными оказались только 34 )
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[19:06:10] _lorien: mr.oduvan, странно да, в гугле про это пишут - советуют обновить setuptools
[19:06:18] _lorien: что мне и помогло, собственно
[19:06:29] _lorien: sevenov, а по какому алгоритму ты чистил?
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[19:07:07] sevenov: _lorien, синхронизировал ростеры старого jid'a с новым
[19:07:08] mr.oduvan: флгоритм) оставляю первые 34, остальные лузеры мне не нужны
[19:07:52] _lorien: у меня, включая icq, 282 контакта :(
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[19:08:07] sevenov: не, аська не нужна
[19:08:13] _lorien: мне нужна
[19:08:30] _lorien: из-за некоторых персон >_>
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[19:12:51] sevenov: бедолага )
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[19:23:00] gigimon: блин, чета глюк какой-то с джангой и простейшим logout
[19:23:04] gigimon: http://dumpz.org/10249/
[19:23:19] gigimon: поглядите, может кто знает что за проблема
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[19:24:23] mr.oduvan: у джанги есть уже готовые вьюхи
[19:24:28] mr.oduvan: для логаута
[19:25:09] mr.oduvan: и вот еще http://code.google.com/p/django-registration/
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[19:25:31] gigimon: не хочу я джанго регу
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[19:26:10] gigimon: mr.oduvan: да и как бы хочется узнать что тут за глюк
[19:26:55] mr.oduvan: а что у нас в миддлваре?
[19:27:27] gigimon: MIDDLEWARE_CLASSES = (
'django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware',
'django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware',
'django.contrib.auth.middleware.AuthenticationMiddleware',
)
[19:29:51] mr.oduvan: почти уверен, что есть сделать return logout(request) оно заработает
[19:33:03] gigimon: странно
[19:33:15] mr.oduvan: рабоатет?
[19:33:40] mr.oduvan: (вы не поверите, но это было слово "работает")
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[19:37:22] gigimon: mr.oduvan: из-за неправильно прописаного media глючило
[19:37:29] gigimon: щас и старое заработало
[19:44:04] mr.oduvan: если я просто файл возвращаю
[19:44:07] mr.oduvan: бинарный
[19:44:15] mr.oduvan: какой content-type?
[19:45:44] mr.oduvan: application/octet-stream
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[19:52:35] gigimon: гм, чушькакая-то, пару раз отработало и опять таже ошибка лезет (
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[19:55:03] mr.oduvan: таже ошибка?
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[19:58:08] mr.oduvan: а если возвращать логаут?
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[20:10:20] piranha: http://dumpz.org/10256/
http://hackety.org/potion/
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[20:22:53] gigimon: piranha: ух ты, а че такое potion?
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[20:24:57] piranha: gigimon: я ж дал ссылку :)
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[20:25:03] piranha: неоконченный, но довольно прикольный язык
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[20:26:04] mr.oduvan: piranha, ура... мы придумали еще более не читабельный язык!
[20:26:32] piranha: более нечитабельный, чем что?
[20:26:43] piranha: вообще твою фразу воспринимать серьëзно или забить лучше?
[20:27:00] gigimon: piranha: сори, вторую не увидел)
[20:27:06] mr.oduvan: нет... эту можно серьезно
[20:27:19] piranha: тогда я что-то не вижу смысла в такой серьëзной фразе
[20:27:26] piranha: еще более нечитабельный, чем питон?
[20:27:29] mr.oduvan: ну правда не читабельный язык
[20:27:38] mr.oduvan: ну к примеру чем перл
[20:28:23] mr.oduvan: но суть в том, что питон куда читабельнее чем ЭТО
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[20:28:28] piranha: нечитабельный?
[20:28:38] mr.oduvan: write only
[20:28:40] piranha: т.е. "test" print для тебя просто непонятное? ;)
[20:28:44] gigimon: potion как-то сзаду наперед )
[20:28:48] piranha: mr.oduvan: ты когда-нибудь видел forth?
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[20:28:52] piranha: gigimon: как смолтолк просто
[20:28:53] mr.oduvan: неа
[20:29:14] mr.oduvan: только не разрывай меня за это
[20:29:20] piranha: mr.oduvan: в общем, если ты просто привык к вызову методов - это ж ничего плохого
[20:29:27] piranha: просто есть еще посылка сообщений, например - как тут
[20:29:34] piranha: или конкатенация, как в форте
[20:29:50] piranha: и читабельность складывается из других кирпичиков
[20:30:14] mr.oduvan: ну да.. понятие в принципе субъективное
[20:30:43] piranha: в общем честно говоря про читабельность рано говорить, язык еще недоделанный. Но в любом случае он довольно прикольно
[20:30:47] mr.oduvan: ну ок... ты шариш в форт - с тобой не спорю )
[20:30:48] piranha: особенно его link'и
[20:30:55] piranha: тьфу, в смысле lick'и
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[20:31:09] piranha: не, я не шарю в форте. В смысле не намного больше шарю, чем в асме %)
[20:31:55] mr.oduvan: а... ну да... мы же с тобой вместе здавали тест по асму, и я знаю, как ты в нем шариш
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[20:32:21] piranha: никак
[20:32:25] piranha: я на питоне пишу %)
[20:34:39] piranha: http://www.objectiv.tv/300609/28627.html :-(((
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