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[00:51:57] tilarids: /me ненавидит миграции в джанго, особенно, когда они неправильно написаны
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[01:04:16] Большой Лис: как скорвертировать sha1 digest в sha1 hexdigest?
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[02:04:13] slav0nic: млять опять ехал с таксистом, который в прошлый раз задавал задачки по математике в 2 ночи, а сегодня определения с физики спрашивал))
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[03:51:50] feedbot: Bachelor Thesis in Computer Science. Part 3. Слайды в LaTeX-beamer http://tilarids.blogspot.com/2009/07/bachelor-thesis-in-computer-science.html
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[05:33:39] sevenov: омг http://snipt.org/knlp
[05:33:45] sevenov: >import thrift.transport.THttpClient as THttpClient
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[09:21:17] Большой Лис: _lorien, wtf?! шойта за ересь?!
[09:22:07] _lorien: :D
[09:22:19] Большой Лис: ересь за 600 р.
[09:22:22] _lorien: не знаю, мне ссылку подкинули, решил заделиться
[09:22:22] Большой Лис: сума сошли
[09:23:01] zulorflare: караул! спасибо за цинк
[09:24:44] erraen: Хы. Интересное у товарисчей понимание функциональности языка программирования :)
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[09:26:20] erraen: А так - по-моему они заново написали Рапиру
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[11:27:53] cuprum13: Родной (русский) язык. Использование английского языка для создания прикладных программ противоречит здравому смыслу.
[11:28:34] erraen: cuprum13: потом возьмешь в напарники китайца - чего делать будешь?
[11:28:55] Большой Лис: :D
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[11:29:09] erraen: Або навіть українця, який писав на власній рідній мові :)
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[11:30:02] cuprum13: erraen, да я это по ссылке лориена прочитал)
[11:30:19] erraen: Ясно
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[11:35:42] cuprum13: у меня вопрос про mod_wsgi. Если давно не было вызова, то долго возвращается первый ответ. Это связано с тем, что wsgi запускает питон?
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[11:36:23] Большой Лис: cuprum13, это связано с тем что по таймауту питон выгружаеться из памяти
[11:36:32] Большой Лис: если никто его не "хотел"
[11:36:41] Большой Лис: этот таймаут можно регулировать
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[11:39:23] cuprum13: а где можно поменять время это время?
[11:39:49] piranha: это ж в доках описано
[11:40:01] piranha: не проще ли глянуть самому, чем заставлять кого-то это делать за тебя?
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[11:41:02] Большой Лис: cuprum13, http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ConfigurationDirectives#WSGIDaemonProcess
[11:41:16] cuprum13: я ищу
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[11:41:50] cuprum13: спасибо
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[11:42:47] piranha: алгоритм: хммм, таймаут? modwsgi.org -> C-f configuration -> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/InstallationInstructions -> опа, директивы -> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ConfigurationDirectives -> C-f timeout -> inactivity-timeout=sss (2.0+)

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[11:43:01] piranha: это я на будущее, ведь реально найти проще, чем переспросить в канале
[11:43:09] piranha: он-то сделал то же самое
[11:43:54] piranha: хранение доков в вики - это как-то стрëмно :)
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[11:44:02] cuprum13: почему-то думал, что
[11:44:08] cuprum13: это от питона зависит
[11:44:28] piranha: %)
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[11:45:50] red-agent: питон на столько суров, что сам себя выгружает.
[11:46:37] Большой Лис: харакири питон
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[11:48:48] red-agent: депрессивный питон -- склонен к суициду
[11:49:12] piranha: таймаициду ;)
[11:49:36] piranha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Mindstorms_NXT
[11:49:42] piranha: есть ли еще подобные штуки, никто не знает? :)
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[11:51:17] qrezy is now работаю ИНТЕРНЕТОМ. ...и мне это нравится...
[11:51:19] qrezy: аналог htmlentities в python есть?
[11:51:47] _lorien: http://lleo.aha.ru/arhive/no_humor/epos.shtml
[11:51:52] Большой Лис: php detected
[11:52:12] _lorien: htmlentitydefs
[11:52:51] Большой Лис: Deprecated since version 2.6: The htmllib module has been removed in Python 3.0.
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[11:53:15] piranha is now Are you man enough to hold the gun?
[11:53:25] Большой Лис: The htmlentitydefs module has been renamed to html.entities in Python 3.0.
[11:53:29] Большой Лис: вот так даже :)
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[12:51:54] tilarids: red-agent, а как там твоя тулзовина для торрентов называлась?
[12:52:31] red-agent: tfaker
[12:52:38] tilarids: red-agent, спс
[12:52:39] red-agent: http://bitbucket.org/redagent/tfaker/src/
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[12:56:50] tilarids: red-agent, нашел. Сейчас буду пытаться реанимировать акк с торрентсру
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[13:02:10] tilarids: red-agent,
tfaker ~/downloads/\[torrents.ru\].t1564837.torrent -u 100m -d 10m
/usr/bin/python: tfaker is a package and cannot be directly executed
[13:02:52] tilarids: после инсталла
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[13:11:55] red-agent: какая версия питона?
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[13:20:14] tilarids: red-agent, 2.6
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[13:22:09] tilarids: red-agent, запустить то я запустил, но ручками
[13:22:11] red-agent: хм, кажется там какие-то изменения в runpy что-ли
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[13:23:18] red-agent: tilarids, в scripts/tfaker попробуй `python -m tfaker $@` заменить на `python -m tfaker.__init__ $@`
[13:23:41] tilarids: red-agent, я через python2.5 запустил
[13:24:02] red-agent: ну ты замени и скажи работает ли, мне фикс-то нада внести
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[13:56:02] tilarids: red-agent, а как часто можно посылать эти фейки?
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[14:03:46] red-agent: tilarids, ну ты не увлекайся особо.
[14:04:38] red-agent: посылай сколько хочешь, главное не слишком много сразу
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[14:14:59] огыешсук: А с ebay кто из питона работал? Как оно?
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[14:15:23] tilarids: red-agent, просто не регистрирует торрентсру мои фейки. Не все регистрирует
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[14:16:12] red-agent: tilarids, ты представляешь себе какая там нагрузка на треккер?
[14:16:33] red-agent: чтобы он пересчитал циферки -- должно пройти время
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[14:16:45] bahus: tilarids: ты не увлекайся - потому шо забанят
[14:16:49] tilarids: red-agent, он пропускает фейки, не просто тормозит
[14:16:59] red-agent: ну и если ты будешь садить туда по двадцать фейков в минуту -- то конечно он будет дропать.
[14:17:17] tilarids: red-agent, так а по скольку фейков надо слать?
[14:17:23] tilarids: я ж это и спрашиваю
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[14:17:44] red-agent: tilarids, Бля, ну пошли себе один фейк на 10гиг, понадобится больше -- зашлешь еще.
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[14:18:17] tilarids: red-agent, так предполагаю, что как раз за такие больше фейки и банят
[14:18:27] red-agent: не забанят.
[14:18:28] tilarids: я хочу мелочью дослать
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[14:20:10] tilarids: red-agent, http://dumpz.org/10384/ - это вот если tfaker.__init__ прописать
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[14:21:19] red-agent: ну ессесно, intra-package референсы ломаются...
[14:21:33] red-agent: блядь, вот дебилы, зачем сломали runpy
[14:22:15] _lorien: tilarids, заведи акк новый да проверь забанят или нет за 10 гигов
[14:22:30] red-agent: я же сказал бля -- не забанят.
[14:22:36] red-agent: я и по сотне заливал
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[14:27:54] tilarids: _lorien, пока не забанили. МОжно было бы и автоматически забанить, не уверен, что где-нибудь в мире есть каналы в 16 гигабит
[14:28:59] red-agent: http://bugs.python.org/issue4195
[14:29:00] red-agent: блядь
[14:29:17] red-agent: если поправлю под 2.6 -- перестанет работать под 2.5
[14:29:23] red-agent: В печь вобщем, потом займусь.
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[14:30:46] red-agent: администрация torrents.ru -- лабухи самые настоящие. Иметь такой посещаемый ресурс и чтобы он в то время, софтверно был таким говном -- это еще уметь нада.
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[14:31:14] red-agent: непонятно только куда они деньги от рекламы просерают, если не на развитие
[14:31:30] piranha: бухают
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[14:38:25] tilarids: red-agent, хотя бы напиши об этом в readme своего tfaker
[14:38:44] red-agent: [14:29:36] red-agent: В печь вобщем, потом займусь.3
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[14:39:52] tilarids: red-agent, а потом кто-нибудь попробует твою штуку заюзать и решит, что нифига не работает
[14:40:08] tilarids: а написал бы в readme, что юзайте python2.5
[14:40:15] tilarids: было бы нормально
[14:40:22] red-agent: там и написано.
[14:40:47] red-agent: Tested with Python 2.5.2 on Linux, FreeBSD, Windows.
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[14:41:04] red-agent: Потом все пофиксю.
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[14:42:45] tilarids: red-agent, теперь оно Tested и на python 2.6 :)
[14:42:59] tilarids: red-agent, в общем, оно работает, +1 тебе в карму
[14:43:59] red-agent: я потом пофиксю для 2.6, как настроение появится.
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[14:58:18] red-agent: Большой Лис, это правда, что у вас там в стране чудес -- самая популярная фамилия -- Попа?
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[15:00:58] red-agent: не знаю, даже, что хуже...
[15:01:18] Большой Лис: :D
[15:01:24] red-agent: Жопа или православие головного мозга :D
[15:01:24] slav0nic: )
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[15:07:38] piranha: http://demotivators.ru/media/posters/738062_moldavskaya-protivopehotnaya-mina.jpg
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[15:15:36] red-agent: угу, много-разового использования.
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[15:20:20] Большой Лис: http://demotivators.ru a django site
[15:20:29] Большой Лис: внизу банер болтаеться
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[17:54:48] mishok13: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001284.html <-- камменты жгут
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мир растерялся
эй большой брат
возвращайся назад
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[20:35:14] RaD/home: камрады, помогите осознать проблему с метой
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[20:40:37] RaD/home: ааа
[20:40:54] RaD/home: просто чуть выше вопросы :)
[20:41:01] RaD/home: про джанго мету и метаклассы :)
[20:41:07] Муркт: хм
[20:41:46] Муркт: RaD/home: предлагаю просто попробовать!
[20:41:55] Муркт: поменяй Meta и посмотри что будет
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[20:42:21] Муркт: не получилось?
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[20:42:35] RaD/home: кастую на телепатию муркта
[20:43:08] RaD/home: в общем надо видать в метаклассе подменять мету, но что-то я не осознаю в какой момент передавать для неё параметры в таком случае
[20:43:09] Муркт: /me . o O ( Не писал ничего на джанге уже года полтора, толком подсказать ничего не могу )
[20:43:21] RaD/home: а это вопрос больше по питону
[20:43:41] RaD/home: есть
class A():
class Meta:
model = сюда
[20:43:43] Муркт: RaD/home: вопрос по питону, но нужно смотреть по коду
[20:43:55] _lorien: можно менять self.fields
[20:44:05] RaD/home: вопрос, как при создании экземпляра класса А, воткнуть свою модель
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[20:45:08] Муркт: RaD/home: там больше проблема в том, что там не class A(), а class A(B), и у этого B есть метакласс уже
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[20:45:31] Муркт: если я всё правильно помню/понял
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[20:45:39] RaD/home: чета ты не то говоришь
[20:45:43] Муркт: ага
[20:45:47] Муркт: фигню какую-то
[20:45:57] Муркт: не буду больше мешать и с толку сбивать :)
[20:46:00] RaD/home: проблема в том, что на момент создания экземпляра А, у него уже создана мета
[20:46:23] Муркт: так ты хочешь просто мету поменять?
[20:46:31] Муркт: (торможу)
[20:46:34] RaD/home: я сужу круг вопроса, да, как мне поменять мету в метаклассе
[20:46:50] Муркт: там тебе приходит пачка аргументов или чего-то такого
[20:47:00] Муркт: словарь
[20:47:11] Муркт: выцепляешь оттуда мету, меняешь её и передаёшь всё обратно
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[20:47:33] RaD/home: а на что менять я знаю только в момент выполнения
[20:47:37] Муркт: в __new__, вроде. В метаклассы залажу раз в год, и каждый раз надо доку опять читать
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[20:48:04] RaD/home: это да
[20:48:04] Муркт: RaD/home: эта...
[20:48:15] Муркт: не проще ли тогда просто на лету и создавать все эти классы?
[20:48:42] RaD/home: class A:
__metaclass__ = myMetaClass(суюда чтоли)
class Meta:
model = Mega
[20:48:59] RaD/home: хочется в рамках джанго подхода сделать
[20:49:06] Муркт: def create(arg1, arg2, arg3):
class A():
class Meta:
field1 = arg1
field2 = arg2
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[20:49:27] RaD/home: и?
[20:49:31] Муркт: и всё.
[20:49:33] RaD/home: мне его вернуть надо
[20:49:36] Муркт: return A
[20:50:00] Муркт: RaD/home: каждый раз при передаче новых аргументов будет новый класс
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[20:50:40] Муркт: можешь основываться хоть на базе данных, хоть на чём
[20:50:55] RaD/home: ща попробую
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[20:51:30] Муркт: пыщь, это же одно из самых элементарных решений :)
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[21:01:25] RaD/home: хм, элементарное не хочецо
[21:01:55] _lorien: ахтунг
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[21:06:48] Муркт: keyword: eliminate potential reference cycles from kwrepo http://selenic.com/pipermail/mercurial-devel/2009-July/013705.html
[21:06:53] Муркт: интересно почитать. однако.
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[21:10:36] RaD/home: правильный ответ modelform_factory - там всё сделано как мне надо :)(\
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[21:11:06] Муркт: :)
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[23:10:42] b3nd3r: комрады. кто какие знает тесты скиллзов халявные?
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[23:12:13] _lorien: brainbench.com - некоторые тесты халявные
[23:12:21] _lorien: например некий тест про веб-девелопинг
[23:12:26] _lorien: ещё на odesk.com халявные тесты
[23:12:59] b3nd3r: имеются в виду конечно питоновские. на брайнбенче питоновские не фри
[23:14:28] Муркт: когда-то давно я там проходил тест на питон 2.4, был шаровый
[23:14:36] Муркт: года 2.5 назад
[23:15:17] b3nd3r: да, там периодически устраивают халяву. но счас питон там стоит около 50 баксов
[23:16:04] Муркт: а нах он тебе нада?
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[23:16:32] Муркт: с того тесту ото токо и понту было, что я результат в ЖЖ запостил
[23:16:44] b3nd3r: да так, себя проверить
[23:16:53] _lorien: b3nd3r, так я говорю, goto odesk.com
[23:17:01] b3nd3r: уху,смотрю уже
[23:17:02] _lorien: регай себе акк, там есть тест на питон
[23:17:06] Муркт: там тест убог
[23:17:15] Муркт: совершенно :)
[23:17:32] _lorien: я умудрился два раза в top 80% не попасть )
[23:17:34] Муркт: задаёт вопросы в духе ++i+++i
[23:17:40] _lorien: top 20% вернее
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[23:51:49] feedbot: Tools of the Modern Python Hacker: Virtualenv, Fabric and Pip http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8z1w1/tools_of_the_modern_python_hacker_virtualenv/
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[23:52:09] Большой Лис: http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/idioteka/2009/07/08/
[23:52:11] Большой Лис: :DD
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