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[03:43:08] : xa4a_ установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://itquest.ru/ | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[14:28:35] mr.oduvan: народ
[14:28:47] mr.oduvan: подскажите, как ограничить время выполнения куска кода в программе?
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[14:29:04] mr.oduvan: есть у нас чтото типа alrm?
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[14:31:53] red-agent: ну так SIGALRM
[14:33:04] red-agent: mr.oduvan, http://docs.python.org/library/signal.html
[14:33:09] mr.oduvan: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/483752/
[14:33:19] mr.oduvan: мне какраз в потоках лучше
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[14:34:01] mr.oduvan: но и про сигаларм тоже надо бы почитать
[14:34:02] mr.oduvan: дякую
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[14:34:29] red-agent: [14:29:28] mr.oduvan: есть у нас чтото типа alrm?
[14:34:34] red-agent: ты спросил - я ответил =)
[14:35:01] red-agent: а в зависимости от того, что тебе конкретно нада -- то можно юзать либо это, либо джойн с таймаутом, как в рецепте.
[14:35:08] mr.oduvan: red-agent, да я знаю... поэтому и сказал "дякую", что на моем родном языке означет спасибо
[14:35:45] mr.oduvan: хочеш, могу даже сказать, что ты клевый!
[14:35:47] mr.oduvan: :))
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[14:37:15] red-agent: нет, спасибо. я дефолтной ориентации...
[14:37:24] red-agent: (unless you're делишес телка)
[14:37:32] nmk: у каждого свои дефолты :)
[14:37:34] red-agent: (тогда да, можешь ^__^)
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[14:37:45] red-agent: nmk, нет, дефолт -- он один.
[14:37:50] red-agent: Все остальное - custom
[14:37:55] mr.oduvan: ну началось!
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[14:51:47] feedbot: Thoughts on MetaPython? http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8zlar/thoughts_on_metapython/
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[15:41:53] _lorien: Как вы думаете реально ли прогать на asus eee pc 1000h или надо всё же проц помощнее мощнее?
[15:42:30] mr.oduvan: "програть" - это программировать?
[15:42:30] red-agent: прогать можна на всем, на чем можна запустить vim
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[15:42:58] mr.oduvan: в винде не запустится вим :)
[15:43:14] red-agent: причем тут винда?
[15:43:22] red-agent: я об аппаратной платформе.
[15:43:28] огыешсук: во первых запустится
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[15:43:41] red-agent: и да, vim вполне работает в окнах.
[15:43:45] mr.oduvan: ой е.. набросились..
[15:44:04] red-agent: ну так не нада хуйню морозить -- не будем набрасываться.
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[15:45:22] _lorien: увы, у меня узкое место firefox - вот скажем, я щас сижу на asus ee pc 701 (900mhz) и тут фаерфокс ощутимо тормозит, я ж вебом занимаюсь, мне огнелись позарез нужен
[15:45:25] mr.oduvan: red-agent, харе орать... дефолтовый ты наш!
[15:45:57] _lorien: вим то да, работает... ещё часто вывод в граф. консоль тормозит на этом eee pc )
[15:46:03] red-agent: Орать? У тебя какие-то не правильные ассоциации. По-моему тут никто не орет =)
[15:46:29] mr.oduvan: хорошо... ма-тю-ка-ться
[15:46:59] mr.oduvan: он.. человуку бы лучше помог..
[15:47:09] mr.oduvan: а то застряли на моем виме.. ей богу..
[15:47:42] red-agent: _lorien, можна поставить что-то легче огнелиса.
[15:47:51] red-agent: в графическую консоль -- это куда?
[15:48:03] red-agent: в иксовый терминал или во framebuffer консоль?
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[15:50:51] _lorien: иксовый терминал, rxvt-unicode
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[15:51:11] _lorien: можно, но я привык к огнелису: firebug, web devloper - я без них как без рук
[15:51:30] _lorien: меня собственно не огнелис волнует, а то что там есть эти два плагина :D
[15:52:03] mr.oduvan: есть гдето в нете статья, как поставить фаербаг еще кудато...
[15:52:28] mr.oduvan: помоему даже на их сайте
[15:53:05] _lorien: да там кастрат слепоглухонемой, а не firebug :D
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[15:53:58] _lorien: В общем, промурыжили мой thinkpad 45 дней и грят забирайте деньги, я вот думаю, купить чо попроще и поменьше )
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[15:54:47] red-agent: а че с ним случилось-то?
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[15:56:40] огыешсук: да купи последний thinkpad, ещё 61й кажись, чего уж.
[15:57:07] огыешсук: Можно и поменьше, 61x что ли вполне мал.
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[15:58:27] _lorien: огыешсук, ну да у меня и был 61-й
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[15:58:41] _lorien: да у него батарея с 70% прыгала до 10%, ну я отдал в сервис - и с концами :D
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[15:59:33] огыешсук: Взять деньги и купить новый. Была Tшка?
[15:59:34] Большой Лис: _lorien, а масюсенький экранчег тебя не напрягает?
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[15:59:47] _lorien: так я работаю за большим монегом
[16:00:09] Большой Лис: а
[16:00:12] Большой Лис: :D
[16:00:51] erraen: _lorien: а маленькая клава? :)
[16:01:47] _lorien: дык я подключаю всё :D
[16:02:05] _lorien: Да я ваще гоню, просто муха укусила. Надо короче просто взять нормальный комп и нетбук наверное :D
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[16:03:47] огыешсук: /me в последнее время смотрит на девайсы вроде http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=44 и маленькие и относительно недорогие и вполне себе компы
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[16:04:10] огыешсук: Только эти сцуки в Россию не доставляют.
[16:04:36] _lorien: Atom 230 1.6GHz CPU - та же фигня, вдруг там огнелис будет тупить )
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[16:05:18] tilarids: _lorien, может, стоит огнелис поускорять?
[16:05:43] _lorien: огнелис ускоряется покупкой памяти и более мощного процессора :D
[16:05:44] огыешсук: свежеустановленный огнелис весьма шустр
[16:05:56] огыешсук: Без профайла и расширений и прочего
[16:06:12] tilarids: _lorien, еще отключением ненужных расширений, флеша и переносом профайла в оперативку
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[16:06:36] tilarids: однако если такое с огнелисом сделать, то в качестве браузера прийдётся использовать другой браузер :)
[16:07:11] огыешсук: но вообще это забавно, что в нетбуке толком нет броузер не пашет
[16:07:53] _lorien: хм, профайл в ОЗУ не пробовал
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[16:08:03] огыешсук: м? правда помогает?
[16:08:13] огыешсук: он жеж и так там кешируется небось
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[16:08:40] tilarids: огыешсук, у тебя никогда не бывало, что фф подвисал иногда?
[16:09:04] tilarids: проскакивала недавно тут статья, как уменьшать время работы с профайлом, вот только там про ssd рассказывали
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[16:09:25] огыешсук: tilarids: очень редко, это когда весь процессор какой скрипт выжирает.
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[16:11:15] tilarids: огыешсук, вообще, это вроде как не из-за проца происходит, а потому что он в профайл пишет часто
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[16:11:57] огыешсук: и пускай себе пишет. того профайла всего мегабайт и тот в кеше
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[16:13:47] огыешсук: Типа открывает его с запретом кеширования? А можно строчку в его коде, что делает это?
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[16:14:18] tilarids: огыешсук, ты видел когда-нибудь код ff?
[16:15:00] огыешсук: ну, на днях я 3.5 собирал, не дождавшись когда его наконец включат в дистрибутив
[16:15:15] red-agent: Я видэль, я видэль! Я больше нихачу его видэль, ever...
[16:15:30] огыешсук: hg clone до сих пор пока тут нестёртый
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[17:55:10] tilarids: больше, чем фф. Всё затормозило. Опасная штука, эта nosetests
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[22:16:11] _lorien: Приветствуем тебя на странице регистрации!

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[22:26:24] A2K: скажите, как правильно на питоне жаббер-клиент писать?
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[22:26:59] Большой Лис: никак %)
[22:27:05] A2K: есть какой-то хороший модуль ориентированый на написание клиента?
[22:27:16] огыешсук: а чем import pyxmpp неправильно?
[22:27:24] Большой Лис: xmpppy
[22:27:27] A2K: огыешсук, у него ужасная документация
[22:27:30] Большой Лис: и pyxmpp
[22:27:39] A2K: а xmpppy годится только ботов писать :(
[22:27:47] Мозгошредер: xmpppy ужасен :(
[22:27:52] A2K: да
[22:28:08] Мозгошредер: такое чувство, что его С-шник писал
[22:28:08] A2K: я пока что на twisted words смотрю
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[22:28:21] A2K: но там обещают большие изменения api скоро
[22:28:22] Большой Лис: типо у твистеда шикарная дока
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[22:28:41] A2K: там примеры неплохие :)
[22:29:13] A2K: кто-то ковырял биндинги к libpurple?
[22:29:20] _lorien: xmpppy
[22:29:44] slav0nic: да, особенно у words "шикарная" дока
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[22:31:47] _lorien: гм, чем спортивное телосложение от мускулистого отличается?
[22:31:57] A2K: пивным пузом?
[22:32:17] Мозгошредер: _lorien, легкоатлестист vs качок
[22:32:18] _lorien: не, пивное пузо - это "Обычное"
[22:32:25] Мозгошредер: *с
[22:32:45] _lorien: качки то разные бывают... бодибилдеры vs поферлифтеры
[22:32:59] slav0nic: фитнес мальчик vs тупой качёг
[22:33:01] _lorien: у последних может и пузо быть
[22:33:03] A2K: то есть, получается, для питона нету нормального модуля для работы с жаббером, да?
[22:33:11] slav0nic: короче пузо как у меня - оптимальный вариант :D
[22:33:13] _lorien: A2K, xmpppy
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[22:33:38] A2K: _lorien, оно какое-то неадекватное
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[22:33:44] _lorien: пох, напишу спортивное :D
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[22:36:05] огыешсук: резюме пишешь? ;o)
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[22:39:19] _lorien: не, на loveplent.ru регаюсь
[22:39:25] Муркт: анкету делает на каком-нибудь сайте знакомств
[22:39:30] Муркт: бля, опоздал =)))
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[22:40:12] slav0nic: всё так плохо?)
[22:40:36] Муркт: _lorien: дашь ссылочку, мы потом поржём :DD
[22:41:00] slav0nic: напиши что питонщик, девушек это обычно заводит))
[22:41:06] Муркт: =))))
[22:41:24] _lorien: искусно владею питоном :D
[22:41:42] Муркт: лол
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[22:42:11] Большой Лис: :D
[22:42:16] Svoloch: искусно владею жемчугом^W перлом
[22:42:45] Svoloch: не очень подходящая фраза :-/
[22:43:02] Мозгошредер: напиши: длина питона достигает 6 метров :)
[22:43:32] _lorien: владение иностранными языками. Другие: python
[22:43:46] slav0nic: )пшпш
[22:44:16] Svoloch: у меня питон - 2.6
[22:44:28] Муркт: это в сантиметрах?
[22:44:34] Svoloch: решат что 2.6 это диаметр
[22:45:08] serpentologist: Svoloch, таки да - жемчуг и рубины больше внимания привлекут)
[22:45:51] Svoloch: /me не особо владеет рубином :(
[22:46:19] slav0nic: последнее слово всегда будет за питоном)
[22:46:41] Муркт: Svoloch: 2.6 даже диаметр как-то грустно.
[22:46:57] Большой Лис: рубины на прелюдию сгодятся
[22:47:02] Муркт: как большой палец на руке
[22:47:24] Мозгошредер: люди говорят что укр озвучка Dark Knight круче русской. Бум смотреть.
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[22:47:57] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (ни хрена себе у вас пальцы)
[22:47:58] mr.oduvan: прикольно.. ктото пишет резюме.. а вы прям так дружно.. всем каналок.. как в армию провожаете :)
[22:48:23] Муркт: огыешсук: а у тебя сколько?
[22:48:29] slav0nic: товарищ делает первый шаг в реальную жизнь)
[22:48:47] Мозгошредер: Цитата: DiGiTaL
[22:48:49] Мозгошредер: а что, укр-дубляж действительно так хорош, лучше русского? скачаю посмтрю в укр и еще в оригинале.
[22:48:51] mr.oduvan: ты главное... в резюме напиши: "знаком с Одуваном".. и поверь, на то что ты знаеш питон уже никто не обратит внимание :))
[22:49:04] Мозгошредер: тьху
[22:49:05] Муркт: огыешсук: большой палец диаметром в сантиметр что ли?
[22:49:05] Мозгошредер: конфу перепутал
[22:49:09] Мозгошредер: ворри
[22:49:09] Большой Лис: у меня длинна окружности пальца 7 см
[22:49:45] огыешсук: вы это -- диаметр с периметром не путайте, да?
[22:49:51] Муркт: Большой Лис: он как бы не очень круглый, так что поделить на пи нельзя :)
[22:49:57] Svoloch: все дружно достали линейки и рулетки
[22:50:07] Большой Лис: Муркт, ну, примерно
[22:50:14] Большой Лис: мыж тут не с великой точностью
[22:50:19] Большой Лис: так что моджно принять за окружность
[22:50:28] Муркт: Большой Лис: хуясе окружность
[22:50:44] Муркт: Большой Лис: они больше похожи на окружность, если их вдвоём сложить вместе
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[22:51:15] Большой Лис: палюбому элипс
[22:51:15] Муркт: у разных людей разные пальцы
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[22:51:51] Svoloch: теперь есчё и пальцами будем мерятся
[22:51:52] Муркт: у некоторых брутальных мужыков мизинцы больше, чем у меня большой палец =)
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[22:52:35] _lorien: а питон у них толще твоей шеи, наверное :D
[22:52:47] Муркт: Нет, с питоном им обычно не везёт
[22:52:50] Большой Лис: :D
[22:52:54] _lorien: )
[22:53:05] Svoloch: питон у них 3000
[22:53:07] _lorien: зачем питон, когда такой мизинец удобный
[22:53:16] Муркт: :D
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[22:54:48] Большой Лис: ну кароч, если примерно представить палец за окружность, то у меня получается диаметр 2.2см
[22:55:12] Большой Лис: старая версия :/ до 2.6 не дотягивает
[22:55:13] serpentologist: _lorien, ну мало ли для чего пригодится, он ведь многофункциональный
[22:55:56] Муркт: я думаю, на сегодня хватит откровений
[22:55:57] Муркт: :D
[22:56:03] Svoloch: /me владеет функциональным языком
[22:56:35] Svoloch: хороший пункт резюме
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[22:59:04] _lorien: Курение. Нет пункта "курю мануалы" (
[22:59:13] Муркт: =)))
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[23:02:48] Большой Лис: бял
[23:03:01] Большой Лис: пропеллер на видюхе гудит громче музона из колонок
[23:03:09] Большой Лис: какафония, мля
[23:04:43] _lorien: Чем Вы займетесь в свободное время:
Пойду гулять; Почитаю дома; Побуду в одиночестве; Приглашу гостей; Займусь сексом; Пойду в ресторан; Займусь спортом; Посижу в интернете; Поработаю; Послушаю радио / музыку; подрочу, поиграю на гитаре, искупнусь.
[23:05:14] Svoloch: _lorien: какой сайт?
[23:05:16] Муркт: ууныловато
[23:05:24] Муркт: Svoloch: сказал же уже выше
[23:05:51] Svoloch: Муркт: по ссылке список сайтов
[23:05:52] _lorien: ну я тока последние три варианта от себя добавил, а другие там стандартные
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[23:05:59] _lorien: loveplanet.ru
[23:06:03] _lorien: я опечатался выше
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[23:07:16] Большой Лис: дак это эти
[23:07:20] Большой Лис: как их...
[23:07:28] _lorien: хаха, там размер члена есть в анкете )))
[23:07:29] Большой Лис: мамба кажется называется
[23:07:38] _lorien: А у девушек там чо... диаметр елды что ли )))
[23:07:39] Большой Лис: конторка
[23:07:55] Большой Лис: куча сайтов использующие одну и туже базу
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[23:08:40] Муркт: Большой Лис: мамба и лавпланет - разные
[23:08:48] _lorien: ага, разные, этих баз много
[23:08:57] Муркт: ну больших вроде всего две
[23:09:04] Муркт: хотя я не специалист =)
[23:09:07] Большой Лис: love.mail.ru
[23:09:08] _lorien: мамба мне чё-то не понравилась, тупо девушки какие-то ...лошадинообразные
[23:09:10] Большой Лис: вот это точно мамба
[23:09:24] Муркт: Большой Лис: да их стопиццот разных, что мамб, что лавпланетов
[23:09:40] Большой Лис: Муркт, дак в том то и дело
[23:09:44] Большой Лис: всего несколько
[23:09:49] Большой Лис: а есть кча говносайтов
[23:09:51] Муркт: ну?
[23:09:57] Большой Лис: который лазиют по их базе
[23:10:02] Большой Лис: куча*
[23:10:04] Муркт: это партнёрки
[23:10:05] Svoloch: чтоль самому зарегатся? :-/
[23:10:06] Большой Лис: угу
[23:10:12] Муркт: ну и тебе-то что? :)
[23:10:29] Большой Лис: собственно, ничо, я женат :)
[23:10:33] Муркт: вово
[23:10:53] Муркт: а даже если и не, какая разница?
[23:11:03] Муркт: это ж не клоны фейсбука очередные =)
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[23:16:47] _lorien: Большой Лис, не надоела жизнь семейная?
[23:16:56] Большой Лис: не
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[23:38:49] _lorien: В каком случае Вы бы бросили своего возлюбленного, не задумываясь:
Например, если бы он превратился в гигантского монстра с жопой вместо головы, с щупальцами, источающими слизь и десятками глаз, разбросанных по всему телу, смотрящь, не мигая, на меня - так будто бы этот монстр голоден и хочет проглотить меня прямо здесь и сейчас.
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