[00:00:40] xa4a: пачиму же?)
[00:00:56] Typhon: кровосток? :)
[00:01:50] xa4a: местами
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[00:11:22] xa4a: Typhon: http://xa4a.org.ua/music/
[00:11:27] xa4a: piranha: не заглядывай туда ;)
[00:11:56] piranha: не буду, я берегу психическое здоровье
[00:13:02] klichuk: омг
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[00:16:12] Муркт: xa4a: ну и п****ц =)
[00:16:30] tilarids: солидарен
[00:16:50] Муркт: tilarids: надо его лечить митолом
[00:17:07] Муркт: к началу следующего icfpc
[00:17:27] piranha: то-то вы в десятку даже не вошли...
[00:17:29] xa4a: /me к началу следующего icfpc лечится хаскилем
[00:17:30] tilarids: /me вот придётся музыки накачать. Уезжаю в места медленного интернета, любимое радио работать не будет
[00:17:56] tilarids: xa4a, нинада. Я боюсь хаскиля
[00:18:09] xa4a: я тоже, в общем-то :)
[00:18:16] piranha: а бледнолицых ниггадяев не боишься?
[00:18:19] xa4a: но есть какое-то скрытое влечение
[00:18:29] tilarids: кстати, а realworldhaskell в пдф случаем не бывает?
[00:18:32] Муркт: xa4a: а ты его пытаешься по туториалам учить всяким?
[00:18:43] Муркт: вот этим риалвордхаскелям и прочему?
[00:18:43] piranha: xa4a: возьми лоли и напиши сайти
[00:18:55] xa4a: Муркт: прочитал книгу на русском бумажную. ничего почти не запомнил. читаю rwh сейчас
[00:19:05] tilarids: xa4a, аналогично. Не понимаю, зачем мне ковырять хаскели, если можно с большим успехом ковырять окамли или эрланги
[00:19:19] tilarids: xa4a, ты онлайн читаешь? Или пдф есть?
[00:19:23] xa4a: онлайн
[00:19:27] tilarids: жаль
[00:20:17] xa4a: Many of you already know that if you go to the O’Reilly page for Real World Haskell, you can buy RWH as an ebook. If you do that, you get access to it in several formats immediately: PDF, ePub..
[00:20:23] xa4a: тоесть просто поискать
[00:20:35] piranha: жлобьë! )
[00:20:45] piranha: заплатите пацанам денег!
[00:20:46] piranha: %)
[00:21:24] tilarids: piranha, пристыдил... :(
[00:21:28] piranha: а скока ебук-то стоит?
[00:21:32] xa4a: fldit-www.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~peter/RealWorldHaskell.pdf
[00:21:33] tilarids: 40 баксов
[00:21:38] tilarids: xa4a, та уже качаю
[00:21:40] xa4a: /me перебил все планы ><
[00:21:45] tilarids: еще надо по окамлю скачать
[00:21:49] piranha: tilarids: ну хз, когда это абстрактные чуваки - то это одно дело, а тут же прямо вот знакомые, считай %)
[00:21:56] piranha: хехе, чорд, 40 баксов - это деньги
[00:22:05] tilarids: piranha, они твои знакомые?
[00:22:07] piranha: можно неделю катаццо на машине
[00:22:17] piranha: tilarids: ну я знаю и брайана, и дона стьюарта
[00:22:23] piranha: гагага, не в глаза
[00:22:26] tilarids: кстати, по окамлю чего-нибудь посоветуйте
[00:22:27] piranha: просто общался
[00:22:32] tilarids: piranha, да ты вообще мажор
[00:22:43] piranha: та не то слово
[00:22:44] tilarids: ты еще и Григория Перельмана знаешь?
[00:23:05] piranha: я адепта знаю!
[00:23:11] piranha: так, шо я еще знаю?
[00:23:28] piranha: я знаю, что программирование на с++ - это затачивание палки камнями
[00:23:37] piranha: :P
[00:24:03] tilarids: piranha, не, сегодня не то настроение
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[00:24:23] piranha: tilarids: да и не изменился язык за это время...
[00:24:26] piranha: ;-)
[00:24:55] piranha: http://github.com/somic/rabbitbal

[00:24:57] piranha: видели?
[00:25:17] piranha: идея хороша, интересно как с производительностью...
[00:25:36] tilarids: /me страдает. ФФ - аццтой, но лучше ничего нет
[00:25:52] tilarids: вот как его отучить открывать пдфки адоберидером?
[00:26:07] piranha: та где-то в настройках есть
[00:26:21] piranha: хром вот вроде лучше, но оно еще не сильно юзабельно :(
[00:26:48] xa4a: в фф в настройках отдельный таб "Приложения"
[00:28:27] tilarids: xa4a, ага, только там ничего не поменяешь нормально
[00:28:41] tilarids: уроды. Не могли использовать настройки из гнома
[00:29:17] xa4a: как это не поменяешь?
[00:30:04] xa4a: http://xa4a.org.ua/scr.png нет такого?
[00:30:20] piranha: как ты себе представляешь использование настроек из гнома?
[00:30:38] piranha: в смысле, как определить, юзаешь ли ты гном, или он у тебя просто валяется в системе?
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[00:33:13] _lorien: шото kopete глючед (
[00:33:26] tilarids: xa4a, у меня стоит автоматическое сохранение пдфок
[00:33:41] tilarids: а потом из загрузок два раза кликаешь - оно открывает адоберидер
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[00:34:20] tilarids: piranha, я представляю себе так - открываешь настройку приложений, видишь там два радиобаттона - Использовать настройки Gnome и Собственные настройки
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[08:30:42] qq6ka: dля Django есть разница как прихоdят dанные, напрямую через POST форму или через AJAX?
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[08:47:20] qq6ka: у меня dанные из формы не dохоdят при отправке AJAX'ом
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[08:50:22] DataStorm: Всем привет
[08:50:43] DataStorm: Подскажите почему может выдаваться Key 'username' not found in <QueryDict: {}>
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[09:15:43] indieman: Привет. почему джанго может не находить модуль урлс? No module named jemimasoft.urls
sys.path.append("C:/python25/Lib/site-packages/django")
sys.path.append("C:/djcode/jemimasoft")
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[09:19:47] Большой Лис: indieman, sys.path.append("C:/djcode/")
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[09:23:28] Большой Лис: ну чо, ктонибудь rightjs пробовал?
[09:23:45] Большой Лис: докухи мля мало =)
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[09:25:01] indieman: не, что-то не помогает.
да и она в %path% есть. или это пофиг?
[09:25:36] Большой Лис: indieman, print sys.path
[09:25:41] Большой Лис: погляди вообще чо там есть
[09:26:09] indieman: ну он сам его выводит, в смысле Python Path:
[09:26:29] indieman: там дофига чего есть)))
да и конфиги же находи.
а они в одном каталоге
[09:26:36] Большой Лис: и кстати
ROOT_URLCONF = 'urls'
[09:26:42] Большой Лис: я так указывал :)
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[09:26:50] Большой Лис: т.е. относительный путь брал
[09:27:26] Большой Лис: и внутри ко всему своему коду обращался относительным путём
[09:27:54] indieman: ага. это в django.wsgi надо? я просто почти не менял ни settings.py
[09:27:59] indieman: ни urls.py
[09:28:56] indieman: нет. тоже ничего.
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[09:29:15] indieman: ошибка в Exception Location: C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\django\core\urlresolvers.py in _get_urlconf_module, line 198
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[09:32:06] Большой Лис: indieman, http://dumpz.org/10591/
[09:32:15] Большой Лис: вот такой wsgi файл, универсальный
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[09:35:39] qq6ka: как всё-таки получить dанные, отправленные через jquery? request.POST.getlist('field') пустой...
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[09:37:46] Большой Лис: о_О
[09:37:50] Большой Лис: чо за гетлист?
[09:38:21] qq6ka: ну у меня несколько <input type="checkbox" name="events" value="{{ event.id }}">
[09:38:44] qq6ka: с оdним именем, в общем
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[09:39:37] qq6ka: если просто отправка dелается - всё норм. а через jquery говорит что пустой список
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[10:24:15] indieman: Большой Лис: Спасибо, заработало)) Только почему-то с твоим wsgi не заработало. с моим заработало, все-же в этом дело было sys.path.append('C:\djcode')
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[14:59:26] Izvr: привет
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[14:59:53] Izvr: кто-нибудь когда-нибудь сталкивался с json rpc?
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[15:01:41] _lorien: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/startup/64349/ Плюсаните, пожалуйста, кому не трудно.
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[15:04:42] Izvr: что же все молчат =(
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[15:05:10] Typhon: Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его!
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[15:06:46] xa4a: Typhon: опоздал
[15:06:49] Izvr: ну я пытаюсь связать django и yahoo ui через json rpc
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[15:07:05] Izvr: используя django-json-rpc
[15:07:28] Izvr: при этом при попытке запустить тестовый сервер он мне выдает ошибку
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[15:08:50] piranha: так а при чëм тут json rpc тогда? :Д
[15:08:52] xa4a: очевидно что-то пошло не так
[15:08:54] piranha: какая ошибка-то?
[15:09:01] Typhon: xa4a: куда? )
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[15:09:26] xa4a: Typhon: ну там частично вопрос уже был озвучен
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[15:10:12] Typhon: может быть, я что-то вылетал, не видел :)
[15:10:31] Izvr: ну в целом ошибку я более или менее победил
[15:10:44] Izvr: там оказался весьма прикольный замкнутый круг
[15:11:15] Izvr: одной из зависимостей jsonrpc надо была версия библиотеки из питона 2.6, а у меня стоял 2,5
[15:11:18] Izvr: пришлось переносить все
[15:11:20] Izvr: ну да пофиг
[15:11:45] Izvr: http://github.com/samuraisam/django-json-rpc/blob/be0581eb6a25c1f9db4fc3fd304c6f86ca120219/README
[15:11:48] Izvr: беру я значит этот ман
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[15:12:21] Izvr: делаю все по нему
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[15:12:34] Izvr: в итоге получаю в шелле ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded
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[15:13:44] xa4a: json объект не может быть раскодирован
[15:13:57] xa4a: следовательно это не закодированный json объект
[15:14:01] xa4a: нужно узнать что это
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[15:17:04] red-agent: Izvr, телепаты в отпуске.
[15:17:21] red-agent: Код и полный трейсбек в студию.
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[15:20:20] Izvr: на самом деле у меня нет окончального понимания как это работает
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[15:22:33] Izvr: вот я определил в view.py некоторые функции, которые должны обрабатывать запросы
[15:23:38] Izvr: еще я определил в urls.py куда ломиться js-скрипту
[15:23:46] Typhon: бля, код да трейсбек :)
[15:23:54] Typhon: а то какие-то функции, что-то делают
[15:24:04] Izvr: объясните мне лучше как это работает
[15:24:13] Izvr: код из примера, который я скинул
[15:24:17] Izvr: ссылка выше
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[15:24:38] Izvr: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/django_json_rpc-0.2-py2.6.egg/jsonrpc/proxy.py", line 19, in __call__
'id': 'jsonrpc'})).read())
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/json/__init__.py", line 307, in loads
return _default_decoder.decode(s)
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/json/decoder.py", line 319, in decode
obj, end = self.raw_decode(s, idx=_w(s, 0).end())
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/json/decoder.py", line 338, in raw_decode
raise ValueError("No JSON object could be decoded")
ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded
[15:24:42] Izvr: вот трейсбэк
[15:25:40] piranha: lzvr: ты тему вообще не прочëл?
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[15:26:56] Izvr: какую тему?
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[15:27:03] Izvr: я новенький
[15:27:04] piranha: топик конфы
[15:27:07] Izvr: не бейте меня ногами
[15:27:14] Izvr: а
[15:27:16] Izvr: сорри
[15:27:22] Izvr: больше не буду код сюда кидать
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[15:28:50] Izvr: http://dumpz.org/10614/
[15:28:51] Izvr: вот
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[15:30:03] piranha: lzvr: так что объяснить-то? Приходит запрос, оно ищет соответствующий урл, вызывает вьюху из него, и полученное значение возвращает спрашивающему
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[15:32:05] Izvr: ну я так себе и представлял
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[16:22:33] Izvr: маленький тупой вопрос
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[16:23:08] Izvr: как в urls.py описать шаблон дефолтной страницы http://localhost:8000/
[16:23:36] Izvr: я тут с горяча сделал r'^'
[16:23:49] Izvr: и у меня естественно получился весчь
[16:24:04] Большой Лис: r'^$'
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[16:25:10] Izvr: спасибо
[16:25:15] Izvr: собственно в этом косяк и заключался
[16:25:18] Izvr: json запахал
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[16:25:33] Izvr: надо теперь понять как правильно с js слать на него запросы
[16:25:42] Izvr: с помощью каких функций
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[16:37:49] tonn: вот читаю тут ман по SCons'у... и там сказано юзать Environment из os... но чет в 2.6 нету его там... может его куда в другой модуль перенесли?
[16:38:48] Typhon: Python 2.6.2 (release26-maint, Apr 15 2009, 16:37:02)
[GCC 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import os
>>> os.environ
{'LES...
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[16:40:21] tonn: хм... странно... в мане чтоли косяк?
import os
env = Environment(CC = ’gcc’,
[16:40:25] tonn: наверно
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[16:49:53] tonn: стоп... environ - это просто словарь... плин... у меня такое подозрение что Environment() импортиться автоматом когда scons запускаешь
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[18:08:24] _lorien: $ createdb demo
createdb: could not connect to database postgres: FATAL: role "lorien" does not exist
шо ему надо? Уже тупо trust прописал для all
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[18:11:21] Optik: при логине надо указывать роль, иначе поумолчанию он берет имя системной записи, которая его запустила
а такой роли обычно нет, и работать нельзя с ней
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[18:11:41] Optik: вроде так, забыл уже точно
сам парился в первый раз
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[18:15:48] _lorien: $ sudo su -l postgres -c 'createuser lorien'
Shall the new role be a superuser? (y/n) y
ыть, я его так перехитрил :D
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[18:39:40] indieman: народ. а почему у меня постоянно отваливается канал? в смысле комната эта?
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[18:41:42] piranha: а больше ни с чем таких проблем нету?
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[18:42:00] indieman: честно говоря, я никуда больше и не хожу)
[18:42:04] wiz: то лапы ломит, то хвост отваливается
[18:42:06] indieman: но мне кажется, во мне дело.
[18:42:18] indieman: )
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[18:42:51] piranha: ну может быть, потому что вроде больше никто на такое не жаловался...
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[18:43:09] indieman: эм.. может это из за того, что у меня кип?)))))
[18:43:54] piranha: ахаха, вполне
[18:44:05] piranha: это ж в принципе извращенство =)
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[18:45:00] _lorien: indieman, м.б. провайдер рвёт connection часто
[18:45:23] indieman: угу) о. так может кто-нибудь посоветует выход?) я одно время выкинул асечный клиент, сидел через транспорт. но млин, все эти транспорты работают через....
да нет, вряд ли, провайдер не должен.
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[18:46:09] klichuk: да если даже у теюбя люстра отвалится, то єто изза квипа
[18:46:19] Optik: миранда спасет отца русской демократии
[18:46:22] klichuk: гогно редчайшое
[18:46:37] klichuk: миранда да, юзай лучше это
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[18:48:26] indieman: млин) миранда... стояла, долгое время только на ней и сидел. и всех так же хамил)))
[18:48:40] indieman: но чего-то с ней тоже неладное было, я уже и забыл...
[18:48:44] indieman: )
[18:48:54] xa4a: indieman: аська не рвётся?
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[18:49:35] indieman: неа.
[18:49:40] indieman: в этом то и странность.
[18:49:57] xa4a: может проблема в жабер-сервере
[18:49:59] indieman: и джаббер контакты тоже нет.
вообще аська первее падает джабберов обычно.
[18:50:00] xa4a: твоём
[18:50:04] _lorien: indieman, ставь линупс, стока граблей будет, что про разрывы и позабудешь вовсе :D
[18:50:13] indieman: гмэил у меня)
[18:50:20] indieman: да я бы поставил линукс, стоял даже.
[18:50:23] indieman: студию я хочу)))
[18:50:38] Муркт: выбей стену, будет студия
[18:50:41] Optik: надо хотеть вим или емакс)
[18:50:48] indieman: вим я тоже хочу)
[18:50:52] indieman: а емакс не хочу.)))
[18:50:58] Муркт: лучше бы емакс хотел
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[18:51:01] Муркт: и эта
[18:51:10] Муркт: а линукс при чём тут к виму и емаксу?
[18:51:28] indieman: он при том. что студии нету в нем)
[18:51:48] Муркт: я спокойно пользовался и вимом и емаксом стопиццот лет назад, когда ещё в школе учился и у меня винда была
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[18:52:11] Мозгошредер: Узнать про вим в винде - это круто :)
[18:52:19] indieman: в общем. косяк у меня видимо. ) у меня тоже в винде)))
[18:52:28] indieman: в линуксе насмотрелся)
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[18:56:57] red-agent: indieman, Monodevelop тебя чем не устроил?
[18:58:20] indieman: red-agent: не пробовал. да и в то время когда смотрел, моно был далеко не идеален. на самом деле щас не очень в курсе. тем более, в связи с его включением во всякие сборки.
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[21:33:24] Disаbler: hiall. подскажите:
- есть строка 'aaabbbccc'
- eсть регексп 'a(.*)c', который должен вернуть 'bbb', но findall и split не возвращают именно bbb.
в чём может быть ошибка?
[21:33:58] klichuk: регексп жадный
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[21:36:31] _lorien: Disаbler, a(.*?)c
[21:36:56] klichuk: неа
[21:37:43] Disаbler: возвращает aabbb
[21:38:05] xa4a: Disаbler: не должен
[21:38:18] xa4a: a[^a]*c
[21:38:35] xa4a: a([^a]*)c
[21:38:37] _lorien: aaa(bbb)ccc :D
[21:39:12] xa4a: :D
[21:39:40] klichuk: a([^a]*?)c
[21:40:37] klichuk: но это смотря в каких еще случаях оно должно ловить
[21:40:59] Disаbler: a([^a]*)c - сработало. но выглядит не красиво. т.е. вместо aaa может быть большое выражение.
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[21:42:04] klichuk: если бы ты предоставил сюда какое например выражение там может быть, було бы лучше
[21:42:07] xa4a: Disаbler: ну ты определись сначала, что оно должно делать
[21:42:32] klichuk: и как a([^a]*)c сработало
[21:42:54] klichuk: у меня оно находиь bbbcc
[21:43:07] xa4a: действительно
[21:43:10] klichuk: a([^a]*?)c находит bbb
[21:43:23] xa4a: пока что самый чóткий вариант - aaa(bbb)ccc
[21:43:29] klichuk: угу
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[21:46:24] Disаbler: xa4a: ну допустим показывать результат с http://ibash.org.ru/random.php пропуская через .*<div class="quothead">.*<b>(.*)</b>.*<div class="quotbody">(.*)</div>.*
[21:46:43] xa4a: !ibash
[21:46:57] xa4a: может проще дать тебе готовый код? :)
[21:47:21] klichuk: .* в больших кусках текста с возможными повторенями к добру не приведет
[21:47:31] klichuk: оно ж жадное
[21:47:38] xa4a: а ещё есть beautifulsoup для распарсивания html
[21:47:44] cutwater: +++
[21:48:15] xa4a: а если таки хочется регулярок, то как минимум, сначала надо начало и конец ненужные отрезать, чтобы не было проблем, о которых упомянул klichuk
[21:48:18] Disаbler: xa4a: код я и сам могу написать. я хочу понять, почему регексп не работает.
[21:48:49] cutwater: почитай что такое жадные выражения
[21:48:56] klichuk: как почему, регекс поглощает чем по больше
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[21:49:08] cutwater: Фридл "Регулярные выражения"
[21:49:35] xa4a: Disаbler: потому, что так работает регексп. при .* он матчит всю строку до конца, а потом по одному символу откатывает назад и пытается сматчить оставшийся кусок выражения
[21:49:43] Disаbler: cutwater: бот нормально обрабатывает этот регексп. руками из путона - не получается.
[21:50:05] Disаbler: *питона
[21:50:26] xa4a: вряд ли
[21:50:59] Disаbler: xa4a: не сочти рекламой, зайди в psi-dev@, я покажу.
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[21:54:00] xa4a: Disаbler: re.search(r'.*<div class="quothead">.*<b>(.*)</b>.*<div class="quotbody">(.*)</div>.*', urllib2.urlopen('http://ibash.org.ru/random.php').read(), re.S)
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[22:01:13] Disаbler: xa4a: спасибо. с re.S всё заработало.
[22:02:49] red-agent: Гыг, вот ебланы. По-ходу эпидемия православия головного мозга.
[22:02:56] red-agent: Ползал тут по youtube по related.
[22:03:01] red-agent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acbToug8mNs&feature=related
[22:03:10] red-agent: Читайте второй коммент.
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[22:33:57] serpentologist: red-agent: второй - это предпоследний?
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[22:37:32] serpentologist: я что-то с первого раза не понял, девушка от имени девы Марии что-то про половую е*лю поёт? Из-за этого бурление?
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[22:39:17] red-agent: У чувака явно психоз на религиозной почве =)
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