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[00:05:47] piranha: оснуëт? )
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[00:06:52] _lorien: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alib.ru%20%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%B5%D1%82
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из этого же не следует, что слова "сбреет" нету, правильно?
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[00:14:00] piranha: таки да...
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[00:14:29] piranha: _lorien: оке, пока принимаем твою версию за рабочую
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[00:16:16] _lorien: если есть сомнения, можно сказать по другому. Например, станет основателем или начнёт или заложит основы (фундамент) и т.д.
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[00:16:59] piranha: вопрос не в том, как сказать, а в том, чтоб напрячь мозг )
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[00:31:54] piranha: заложит - это хороший ход
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[02:16:37] sevenov: Живые есть?
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[02:16:54] sevenov: А то хотел прикольную задачку дать, охуеете
[02:17:15] sevenov: И, возможно, кто-то обидится ^_^ на питон
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[02:18:27] xa4a: давай
[02:19:09] sevenov: xa4a, http://dumpz.org/10627/
[02:19:11] sevenov: ешь =)
[02:19:28] sevenov: решение такое же черезжопное, как и у тебя а-ля lambda: i=i,
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[02:20:22] xa4a: в чём задачка?
[02:20:23] sevenov: так-то, лямбда тут для однострочности, проблема есть и без нее
[02:20:33] sevenov: xa4a, в том, что попробуй запустить
[02:20:44] xa4a: TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable
[02:20:57] xa4a: гм
[02:21:01] sevenov: это на какой строке-то? оО
[02:21:08] sevenov: там другая ошибка должа быть )
[02:21:15] zulorflare: другая, да
[02:21:22] zulorflare: UnboundLocalError: local variable 'func' referenced before assignment
[02:21:23] sevenov: воспроизводится на cpython 2.4-3.1, jython
[02:21:27] sevenov: zulorflare, угу
[02:21:45] xa4a: ну дык
[02:21:46] sevenov: jython => с python 2.2, если не ошибаюсь
[02:21:49] sevenov: xa4a, ?
[02:21:51] xa4a: ман же
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[02:22:00] sevenov: расскажииии =))
[02:22:24] xa4a: это как с глобальными
[02:23:01] xa4a: если есть упоминание слева от оператора присвоения, то во всём блоке переменная - локальная
[02:23:54] sevenov: xa4a, дык этаа. Почему тогда _до_ этой строки не отрабатывает print locals()
[02:24:00] sevenov: *local()
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[02:25:13] sevenov: или же, если эту строку обернуть в:
if False:
func = (...)(...)
[02:25:24] sevenov: оно никак не должно отработать ведь
[02:26:30] xa4a: я думаю, если ты прочитаешь http://docs.python.org/reference/executionmodel.html то вопросов станет меньше
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[02:27:20] sevenov: а, чорт! Так не интересно :-)
[02:27:33] sevenov: Сцуко, я предпологал, что что-то такое, но точно не знал.
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[02:35:57] sevenov: я так не играю )
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[09:58:49] DataStorm: Всем привет
[09:59:06] DataStorm: есть шаблон, в нем есть {% include "new_message.html" %}
[09:59:30] DataStorm: в new_message.html форма
[09:59:43] DataStorm: как мне передать переменные при инклуде
[09:59:44] DataStorm: ?
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[10:02:29] Большой Лис: никак
[10:02:40] Большой Лис: он видит тот же контекст что и шаблон его вызывающий
[10:02:46] Большой Лис: так что пихай всё что надо в окнтекст
[10:02:51] Большой Лис: или пиши тег
[10:03:24] Большой Лис: контекст*
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[10:13:29] Izvr: можете мне написать пример как обратиться из yahoo ui или просто javascript к django-json-rpc серверу
[10:13:47] Izvr: например мне надо вызвать у него процедуру Hello и передать некоторый параметр
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[10:42:44] DataStorm: спасибо
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[10:43:55] DataStorm: дайте почитать про теги
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[10:46:17] Большой Лис: тут всё описано
[10:46:46] DataStorm: окей
[10:46:46] Большой Лис: ссылка прямо с этой страницы есть на кастомные теги
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[10:48:13] DataStorm: можешь вкратце описать для чего они нужны? мне так просто понятней будет читать
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[11:05:20] nmk: народ, есть постгрес, есть таблица и есть два идеально параллельных апдейта. один на одну колонку, другой на другую колонку . как при этом версионность сработает? т.е. не получу ли я в резульате старое значине первой колонки - новое значение второй колонки?
[11:06:28] rahs: не будет "идеально параллельно" при апдейте
[11:06:43] nmk: ну, ок, разница 10 мс :)
[11:07:06] rahs: :) сначала одна транзакция проапдейтит, потом другая
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[11:07:50] nmk: при это версинность на строку сработает или на колонку?
[11:07:56] Typhon: Isolation (изоляция): во время выполнения транзакции другие процессы не должны видеть данные в промежуточном состоянии. Например, если транзакция изменяет сразу несколько полей в базе данных, то другой запрос, выполненный во время выполнения транзакции, не должен вернуть одни из этих полей с новыми значениями, а другие с исходными.
[11:08:02] rahs: версионность имеет смысл учитывать при чтении, т.е. во время апдейта читающая транзакция будет видеть старую версию записи
[11:08:44] rahs: блокируется вся запись, да
[11:08:50] nmk: Typhon: у меня две транзакции меняют _разные_ поля.
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[11:08:58] nmk: я уже понимаю, что лучше проверить :)
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[11:10:58] nmk: хм. в моих дефолтных настройках вторая транзакция тупо ждет завершения первой, так что все гуд. :)
[11:11:18] rahs: так и должно быть
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[11:11:38] rahs: пишущая-ждет, читающая нормально прочитает старые данные
[11:12:10] rahs: или, как вариант, пишущая сразу получает отлуп :)
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[11:12:43] nmk: не. пускай ждет. ;)
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[11:13:10] rahs: до истечения таймаута ;)
[11:13:49] nmk: видно по дефолту какой-то очень большой таймат стоит, я тут только что одну транзакцию прибил которая была оооочень давно запущена. если я все правильно помню -- на прошлой неделе :)
[11:14:36] rahs: я и говорю, лучше поставить какой-никакой таймаут
[11:14:51] rahs: а то всякое бывает
[11:16:01] nmk: наверное лучше, но на дев машине мне наверное лучше без таймаута
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[12:26:35] rahs: не могу понять, почему django.views.generic.list_detail.object_detail не работает с моделью, у которой явно указан primary_key

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[12:27:13] xa4a: почему не работает?
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[12:29:58] rahs: самому интересно :) в модели id был выкинут, явно указано у поля primary_key=True.

areas_detail_dict={
'queryset': Areas.objects.all(),
'template_name': 'guides/area_detail.html',
'template_object_name': 'areas',}

(r'areas/detail/(?P<object_id>\d+)/$','django.views.generic.list_detail.object_detail', areas_detail_dict),

.../areas/detail/205/ возвращает 404
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[12:31:24] xa4a: а что по этому поводу говорят исходники джанги?
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[12:32:21] rahs: доки на сайте перечитываю
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[12:34:27] rahs: хм...
if object_id:
queryset = queryset.filter(pk=object_id)

вот так говорят исходники джанги
[12:34:41] xa4a: значит должно быть ок
[12:34:51] xa4a: втыкай туда дебагер и смотри)
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[12:41:31] rahs: сабака дикая :) блин :)
[12:41:48] rahs: девсервер рестартануть надо было всего-то
[12:41:57] rahs: всю голову ведь сломал
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[13:15:39] xa4a: разрабы копыта - хитрые
[13:15:43] xa4a: http://kopete.kde.org/oscarversions.xml
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[13:28:32] Izvr: http://dumpz.org/10639/ что бы это могло значить?
[13:28:56] Izvr: я плохо json сформировал?
[13:29:04] Izvr: json-объект
[13:29:59] xa4a: да
[13:30:10] xa4a: твой json poorly-formed
[13:30:21] xa4a: тоесть не json
[13:30:23] xa4a: а request
[13:30:46] xa4a: хотя э..
[13:30:58] xa4a: request pporly formed JSON
[13:31:05] xa4a: индусы писали, похоже
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[13:31:15] xa4a: !enru request poorly formed JSON
[13:31:31] Izvr: http://dumpz.org/10640/ я вот так делаю
[13:31:58] Izvr: хотя у меня есть догадка почему не пашет
[13:32:16] xa4a: потому что надо деелать не так?
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[13:33:41] Izvr: ну как бы не совсем
[13:33:53] Izvr: я вчитался в код djangoвского прокси
[13:34:00] Izvr: json-rpcшного
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[13:35:43] xa4a: о, гм
[13:36:06] xa4a: /me как раз этим же почти занимается
[13:37:21] Izvr: правда этим занимаешься?
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[13:37:48] xa4a: ну я изобретал свой api через json
[13:38:02] xa4a: сейчас смотрю, что это уже окультурено и обозвано json-rpc
[13:38:06] xa4a: почитаю про него
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[13:39:05] огыешсук: xa4a: почитаешь -- скажи, чем оно удобнее своего api (чем я как раз занимаюсь и только недавно узнал про jsonrpc и пока всё времени нет осознать надо ли оно вообще)
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[13:39:27] Izvr: ну как бы я вчера весь день прозанимался сексом с этой штукой
[13:39:32] Izvr: могу поделиться впечатлениями
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[13:40:20] Izvr: на просторах интернета я нашел две занятные штуки
[13:40:36] Izvr: django-json-rpc и django-json-rpc-server
[13:40:46] Izvr: вторая у меня работать отказалась
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[13:41:10] Izvr: первая встала после нескольких часов неочевидных действий
[13:41:23] Izvr: причем заработала только с 2,6 питоном
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[13:41:53] Izvr: потому что в 2,5 в каком то модуле не оказалось должной функциональности
[13:42:08] Izvr: функций dumps loads вроде бы
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[13:42:52] Izvr: по сути вся настройка джанги представляет собой установка модуля(я скачал версию 0.2 и поставил ручками из сорцов)
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[13:43:18] Izvr: дальше импорт в views, строчка в urls и в общем то готово
[13:43:27] Izvr: ставишь декоратор перед своими views
[13:43:36] Izvr: и они в теории должны принимать запросы
[13:43:47] Izvr: по крайней мере от встроенного в модуль прокси принимают
[13:44:02] Izvr: с js я как видите продолжаю заниматься любовью
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[13:46:02] огыешсук: А таки чем
[13:46:05] огыешсук: это лучше
[13:46:12] огыешсук: самопального api?
[13:46:26] xa4a: стандартизация..
[13:46:34] огыешсук: Если не надо с другими людьми взаимодействовать. Только со своими же собственными скриптами.
[13:46:59] xa4a: возможность расширяемости взаимодействия на других людей :D
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[13:47:41] Izvr: ну в целом кому как нравится
[13:47:43] xa4a: у него чёрным по елому записано, как репортятся ошибки и как возвращаетс результат
[13:47:54] xa4a: *бя
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[13:48:15] Izvr: http://dumpz.org/10641/ вот на основании этого видимо надо сформировать json-объект
[13:48:31] огыешсук: Izvr: а что не так с js? http://plugins.jquery.com/project/rpc и ему подобные не работают?
[13:48:37] Izvr: как в __call__
[13:48:57] Izvr: ну я тут пытаюсь завести все это с помощью yahoo ui
[13:49:05] Izvr: по сути то не важно какая библиотека
[13:49:11] Izvr: у меня запрос сейчас уходит к django
[13:49:12] xa4a: lzпочему 'id': 'jsonrpc' ?
[13:49:23] Izvr: и django запрос этот видит и говорит, что он плохой
[13:49:34] xa4a: попробуй туда циферку вставь
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[13:49:44] Izvr: ну это пример из сорцов, которые работают =)
[13:49:59] Izvr: только это сорцы на питонге
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[13:50:19] Izvr: а мне надо теперь сделать тоже самое, только на js
[13:50:41] xa4a: пихай данные в POSt
[13:50:55] Izvr: я свой косяк вижу в том, что я не определил params в виде еще одного именованного списка
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[13:51:10] Izvr: я уже выше постил как я их пихаю
[13:51:26] xa4a: в спеке написано, что params может быть списком, или словарём
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[13:52:28] Izvr: var tmp = {id: 'jsonrpc', method: 'sayHello', params: {name: 'Vasya'}};
[13:52:33] Izvr: так вот тоже не прокатило
[13:53:28] xa4a: ты выше писал, что пихаешь их в GET-параметр
[13:53:44] xa4a: urllib.urlopen(self.__service_url, dumps({
[13:53:47] xa4a: тут пихаются в пост
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[13:54:27] Izvr: ну в спецификации jsonrpc написано, что там POST
[13:54:30] Izvr: если честно
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[13:54:36] Izvr: я поэтому так и начал делать
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[13:54:43] Izvr: GET это вилы
[13:55:09] Izvr: urllib.urlopen делает GET или POST?
[13:55:52] xa4a: http://groups.google.com/group/json-rpc/web/json-rpc-over-http
[13:56:01] xa4a: если второй аргумент, то post
[13:56:31] Izvr: не понял
[13:56:49] xa4a: если ты даёшь urlopen второй аргумент, то запрос становится post
[13:56:52] xa4a: в общем
[13:56:54] xa4a: последний линк
[13:56:59] xa4a: --> POST /ENDPOINT HTTP/1.1
[13:57:01] Izvr: ясно
[13:57:06] xa4a: там смотри как данные выглядят
[13:57:11] Izvr: кстати там еще намекают на то, чтобы я сформировал header
[13:57:13] Izvr: правильный
[13:57:21] xa4a: а у тебя "json="+
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[13:57:27] xa4a: пробовал убирать json= ?
[13:57:37] Izvr: сейчас попробую
[13:58:07] Izvr: кхм
[13:58:09] Izvr: повезло
[13:58:18] Izvr: концепция изменилась
[13:58:47] Izvr: правда он почему то не подставил вместо name Vasya
[13:58:55] Izvr: может догадался, что я не Вася
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[14:12:20] Izvr: победился вроде
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[14:13:23] огыешсук: ok, видимо стоит попробовать таки
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[14:20:04] Izvr: http://dumpz.org/10644/
[14:20:13] Izvr: кстати поддерживает аунтефикацию
[14:20:38] Izvr: ломится в django и проверяет пользователя на вшивость
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[16:00:25] hotadd: добрый день. как в питоне реализовать копирование объекта, при вызове copy.copy или copy.deepcopy не создается копия объекта, а передается ссылка на объект
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[16:02:53] sevenov: hotadd, врешь
[16:03:07] sevenov: hotadd, если список, то можно [:]
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[16:03:16] hotadd: да не список
[16:03:48] hotadd: создаю копию, убиаваю элемент копии, убивается элемент оригинала
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[16:04:36] hotadd: я вот сам не пойму, везде пишут что copy это функция создания копии объекта , а на самом деле ссылка получается
[16:05:44] Typhon: >>> x = [1,2,3,4,6,8];y = copy.copy(x); z = x
>>> x is y
False
>>> z is x
True
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[16:40:34] огыешсук: Про http://dumpz.org/10652/ все ведь в курсе, да?
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[16:43:02] Izvr: идеологический вопрос
[16:43:17] Izvr: вот я пишу функцию на js, которая мне должна отрисовать определенную форму
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[16:43:27] Izvr: для добавления некого объекта
[16:43:59] Izvr: где мне хранить html-форму?
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[18:11:06] cutwater: суток. вопрос такой, как в sqlclchemy в классе унаследованом от Base (declarative_base) индекс создать? или только вне класса?
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[22:09:43] _lorien: А вот вопрос такой. Взять форум pybb. Файл setup.py, ок, запускаем ставим. И вот в недрах , где-то там в site-packages поставился pybb пакет и содержи он внутри static каталог и надо как-то его скопировать или симлинку с него поставить, чтобы статические файлы раздовать, как бы юзверю жизнь облегчить?
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[22:19:24] Большой Лис: _lorien, сделай генератор сайта
[22:19:41] Большой Лис: в смысле после установки пишеш команду pybb /path/to/new_pybb
[22:19:46] Большой Лис: и туда копируются все нужные файлы
[22:20:40] _lorien: да, разумно
[22:20:41] wiz: как в pinax
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[22:21:30] klichuk: встроенным средствами можно распарсить datetime с указанной временной зоной типа EDT EET?
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[22:43:49] xa4a: klichuk: strptime, если можно
[22:44:01] klichuk: неа(
[22:44:25] klichuk: все перерил, только pytz пакет позволяет такое зделать
[22:45:51] klichuk: в питоне нет классов унаследованных от datetime.tzinfo (он абстрактный), а только этим класом можно построить соответствующий обьект datetime.datetime
[22:46:23] klichuk: а pytz просто понастроевал этих классов тучу, как раз для разных зон с разными именами и для разных регионов
[22:46:41] klichuk: тупизна в том что есть отдельно datetime.time и time . так же с датой
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[22:47:05] klichuk: и при том datetime.time хранит микросекунды а второй нет %)
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[22:57:24] xa4a: следовательно time не нужен?
[22:57:46] klichuk: ага
[22:57:51] klichuk: хотя
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[23:02:31] klichuk: именно он может обратно фоматировать strptime("%Z %z")
[23:02:53] klichuk: вот только оно покажет только даные временный пояс
[23:03:06] klichuk: намешали бл ять чертишо
[23:03:33] klichuk: почему strptime не возврвщает обьект типу тайм, а struct_time %)
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[23:06:57] _lorien: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/the_future_is_here/64553/
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[23:51:07] feedbot: Язык программирования Python / Ссылка Unladen Swallow 2009Q2 http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/64577/
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