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[00:51:05] feedbot: Дебажим джангу http://django-newbie.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post_15.html
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[01:36:48] xa4a: хех Amazon said that sales of Windows 7 in the first eight hours it was available outstripped those of Windows Vista's entire 17 week pre-order period.
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[01:58:37] xa4a: есть обладатели ipod shuffle 3g?
[02:02:23] xa4a: к ним можно найти переходник на нормальные нпушники?
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[09:08:20] sevenov: обед уже почти )
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[09:11:20] Большой Лис: если ты во владике находишься то да
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[09:12:24] sevenov: Питер )
[09:12:28] sevenov: 10:12 )
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[10:06:34] Большой Лис: кто знает, как на маздае запустить IE 6/7/8
[10:06:41] Большой Лис: так что бы все 3-е работали
[10:06:42] Большой Лис: ?
[10:06:58] Большой Лис: если сейчас установлен только 7-ой
[10:07:02] sevenov: Большой Лис, ietester, вроде так
[10:07:50] Большой Лис: не, прямо одновременный запуск мне не надо
[10:07:57] Большой Лис: мне надо что бы они просто работали =]
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[10:08:12] Большой Лис: т.е. уместились на одной системе
[10:08:17] Большой Лис: и не сломали друг друга
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[10:14:40] cutwater: Большой Лис, был пакет один multiie или чето подобное. щас вспомню найду
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[10:14:56] Большой Лис: Tredosoft
[10:15:01] Большой Лис: угу я видел его
[10:15:05] cutwater: http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
[10:15:07] cutwater: да
[10:15:11] Большой Лис: но он похоже сто лет не поддерживается
[10:15:17] cutwater: хм.. может быть
[10:15:21] Большой Лис: версии до 6.0 включительно
[10:15:43] Большой Лис: карочи, нахер IE
[10:15:51] Большой Лис: поставлю редирект на mozilla.com
[10:15:52] Большой Лис: ;)
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[10:18:02] Большой Лис: та я йепу его
урод выдаёт ошибку (не известная ошибка 80020101) на простой код
$E('table', {html: "<tr><td>my row</td></> tr>"})
[10:18:16] Большой Лис: кон-чи-ный
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[10:20:11] sevenov: </> tr>
[10:20:14] sevenov: еще бы
[10:20:15] sevenov: )
[10:20:51] Большой Лис: скопировалось с мыла (там цитата была со знаками >) криво
[10:20:52] Большой Лис: =]
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[11:48:25] Horus Aximand: Товарищи! Нет ли здесь случайно emacs-пользователей?
[11:48:35] xa4a: есть
[11:48:36] xa4a: топик
[11:49:02] xa4a: там что-то про "*просто* задай его"
[11:49:15] xa4a: ноэ
[11:49:24] xa4a: это не emacs@cjr, если что
[11:49:29] Horus Aximand: Окей, щас как задам)
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[11:53:47] Horus Aximand: В общем пытаюсь прикрутить автодополнение по этому http://hide1713.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/setup-perfect-python-environment-in-emacs/ хауту. Но при нажатии на TAB сначала спрашивают у меня Rope project root folder - пишу '.' Далее ругается матом: http://dumpz.org/10674/
[11:54:57] xa4a: emacs не знаю, но по-моему у тебя cwd - с неаски символами
[11:54:59] xa4a: да?
[11:55:44] Horus Aximand: Ээ... Кагбэ что такое cwd? )
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[11:55:45] sevenov: Horus Aximand,
>[12:49:57 PM] xa4a: это не emacs@cjr, если что
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[11:56:00] xa4a: Horus Aximand: current working dir
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[11:56:32] Horus Aximand: Окей, спасибо) sevenov, намек понят
[11:56:44] xa4a: ну чтобы совсем неинтересно было - втыкни в build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/Pymacs/pymacs.py на 146-ю строку print text
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[12:05:08] Horus Aximand: Главное не у одного меня такие проблемы.. Черт возьми, какой нужен левел, чтобы с имаксом обращаться? )
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[12:07:42] Большой Лис: Horus Aximand, можно фракцию сменить, на vim
[12:07:45] Большой Лис: ;)
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[12:08:31] Horus Aximand: У меня однокурсник линуксоид - сидит на вим)) Я чтоб ему насолить имакс и поставил)
[12:08:53] _lorien: Horus Aximand, сам себе насолил, так бы он тебе помогал )
[12:09:10] Horus Aximand: Прорвемся)
[12:09:15] Horus Aximand: Это война!!
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[12:10:54] xa4a: Horus Aximand: это фейл
[12:11:21] Horus Aximand: Пока да
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[12:13:10] mishok13: чото у меня всё нормально в имаксе работает
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[12:14:26] Horus Aximand: mishok13, Круто тебе)
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[12:15:15] mishok13: я так думаю, что классическая пропорция: качество работы в имаксе прямо пропорционально радиусу кривизны рук
[12:15:37] mishok13: тобишь, прямые руки (радиус == бесконечность) -- идеальное качество
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[12:16:24] Horus Aximand: Ну это очевидно)
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[12:17:26] огыешсук: emacs проще vim`а. Тут не обязательно знать тучи магических пассов
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[12:18:28] Horus Aximand: Кстати все видели комикс ftp://195.49.196.35/incoming/vi-emacs-cartoon.png ? Вчера угорал)
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[12:23:09] xa4a: в svn есть что-то типа hg backout?
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[12:24:00] огыешсук: а что есть hg backout
[12:24:02] огыешсук: ?
[12:24:27] xa4a: создаёт ревизию, откатывающую старую
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[12:25:43] огыешсук: svn merge -rHEAD?
[12:27:08] xa4a: svn up -rOLD; cp file1 file2 /tmp; svn up; cp /tmp/{file1,file2} .; svn ci
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[12:27:43] огыешсук: А чем svn merge -rHEAD:<old-revision> не нравится?
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[12:29:05] xa4a: никогда не юзал svn merge)
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[12:32:44] Большой Лис: никогда не юзаЙ svn merge
[12:32:52] Большой Лис: да не так
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[12:33:02] Большой Лис: никогда не юзаЙ svn
[12:33:06] Большой Лис: fixed
[12:33:09] Большой Лис: :))
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[13:49:30] xa4a: http://dumpz.org/10680/ чяднт?
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[13:49:58] xa4a: как получить из form.errors сериализуемый словарь?
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[13:51:06] feedbot: It's all wrong http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/91pkk/its_all_wrong/
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[13:51:48] xa4a: а
[13:51:54] xa4a: всё просто simplejson.dumps(dict( (k, unicode(v)) for k,v in form.errors.items()))
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[14:02:51] _lorien: http://vimeo.com/5583313
[14:05:19] mishok13: Architect-Cum-Developer
[14:05:37] mishok13: они хоть в курсе что такое cum?
[14:05:49] Большой Лис: :D
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[14:21:38] bergamot: Кум (кума́) — крёстный отец (крёстная мать), восприемник (восприемница), человек, состоящий в духовном родстве к другому.
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[14:51:06] feedbot: Europython 2009 Wi-Fi cartoon http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/91q3e/europython_2009_wifi_cartoon/
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[15:09:16] огыешсук: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/rpc4django/ ещё какой то появился :o/
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[15:24:19] Большой Лис: mishok13,
Web Application Architect-Cum-Developer
Hyderabad, India (required on-site)
[15:24:41] Большой Лис: я из RSS уже, но всё таки прочитал что атм внутри :)
[15:24:49] Большой Лис: дело проясняется
[15:25:33] mishok13: ну вообще это выражение на латине такое
[15:25:51] mishok13: например father-cum-son
[15:26:01] mishok13: отец и [одновременно] сын
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[15:39:22] _lorien: а какие пакеты в дебиане поставить шобы кириллица отображалась как в венде?
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[15:42:18] rahs: _lorien, локаль 1251 хочешь?
[15:42:51] Большой Лис: _lorien, это как? кривой рендеринг шрифтов что б был?
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[15:43:19] огыешсук: _lorien: msttcorefonts?
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[15:43:39] _lorien: огыешсук, угу, пробую его ставить сейчас
[15:43:42] огыешсук: Только там тахомы по идее быть не должно, её отдельно.
[15:44:05] Большой Лис: ах в ЭТОМ смысле
[15:44:06] Большой Лис: хехе
[15:44:13] огыешсук: Вообще, не морочись, а просто скопируй fonts с винды себе в ~/.fonts
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[15:44:20] Большой Лис: так бы и сказал. веб-фонты
[15:44:46] Большой Лис: огыешсук, 1) там столька гавнища всякого 2) не у всех винда есть ;)
[15:45:31] _lorien: Винда есть на соседнем компе, но решение жутковатое, конечно и делать так просто желания нету )
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[15:46:45] slav0nic: )а если кто-то взял фонты в винды и вкинул их в пакет, то уже уже кошерно?)
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[15:47:17] огыешсук: Копированием хоть тахома будет. А она рулит на пару с либерейшном.
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[15:49:08] Большой Лис: там скачиваются всего 5-6 фонтов
[15:49:18] Большой Лис: а не "вся хуйня"
[15:49:36] Большой Лис: причм, 5-6 стандартный, что называется, веб-фонтов
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[20:17:29] nicckk: как разобрать строку по байтам?
[20:18:08] xa4a: s[0], s[1]
[20:18:20] xa4a: в python2.x
[20:18:49] nicckk: а не, по битам точнее
[20:19:53] nicckk: всмысле есть модули какие нибудь для этого или руками делать все?
[20:20:08] xa4a: bits = [(b >> i % 2) for i in range(8) for b in bytelist]
[20:20:15] xa4a: именно для этого модуля нет
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[20:20:23] xa4a: но может ты хочешь не этого
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[20:21:43] wiz: модуль то есть, но скорее всего xa4a прав
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[20:38:21] _lorien: м.б. он по атомам хочет разобрать
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[20:39:53] xa4a: _lorien: распарсить?
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[20:39:59] xa4a: может он хочет struct
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[20:48:50] Disаbler: hiall. подскажите, если я в одном треде создам sqlite3 базу в памяти, из другого треда она будет доступна?
[20:50:23] nicckk: мне надо прочитать байт из двоичного файла и получить список битов
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[20:51:10] wiz: nicckk, для чего?
[20:51:45] xa4a: bits = [((b >> i) % 2) for i in range(8) for b in bytelist]
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[20:55:02] wiz: кстати вот ещё - http://wiki.python.org/moin/BitManipulation
[20:55:23] _lorien: Disаbler, так трудно проверить?
[20:55:48] Disаbler: _lorien: так трудно ответить?
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[20:56:25] nicckk: xa4a, http://pastebin.ca/1497306
[20:56:36] klichuk: ну просто лучше самому раз увидеть, чем сто раз услишить, тем более вроде попробовать не сложно
[20:56:39] _lorien: Disаbler, объясняю популярно. Один дурак задаст столько вопросов, что и тысяча мудрецов не ответят.
[20:57:33] Disаbler: _lorien: если не можешь ответить "да" или "нет" - не рассказывай свои морали.
[20:57:41] wiz: Disаbler, нет.
[20:57:42] klichuk: а еще есть threadsafety константа
[20:57:57] Disаbler: wiz: tnx.
[20:58:16] wiz: Disаbler, кури python db api. это унифицированый стандарт для всех бд-интерфейсов.
[20:58:31] klichuk: Disаbler: посомтри, есть ли там константа threadsafety константа в модуле
[20:59:19] Disаbler: /me понял в какую сторону копать. спасибо за подсказки.
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[20:59:39] _lorien: Disаbler, Когда сам начинаешь выяснять, то это гораздо лучше и часто быстрее и вообще избавляет от разговоров со всякими умниками вроде меня, которые ничо не знают и морали читают )
[20:59:40] klichuk: посмотрел..
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[21:08:43] nicckk: все,разобрался. спасибо
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[21:21:37] cutwater: вопорос товарищи, есть ли какой-нибудь способ в sqlalchemy вставить записть только если она уже не существует?
[21:22:34] _lorien: можно поставить unique индекс -тогда выпадет exception
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[22:31:54] slav0nic: cutwater, в mysql есть http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/insert-on-duplicate.html но хз как с этим дела у алхимии
[22:32:35] cutwater: видимо печально
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[22:33:12] slav0nic: не хотел тебя расстраивать раньше времени, но поже ты прав))
[22:33:28] slav0nic: http://www.sqlalchemy.org/trac/ticket/960
[22:33:45] slav0nic: milestone set to blue sky
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[22:33:53] cutwater: понятно
[22:33:55] cutwater: :D
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[22:34:33] slav0nic: хотя raw sql те никто не запрещал)
[22:34:50] cutwater: проще сделать имхо один селект или отловить исключение
[22:35:33] cutwater: slav0nic, и еще вопрос такой. sa после add и commit получает id добавленных записей. допустим если они не нужны, как избежать лишних запросов?
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[22:38:09] slav0nic: я алхимию давно не тыкал)
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[22:39:31] _lorien: А эти id точно делаются через запросы? В том же мускуле было вроде б шо-то типа last_insert_id() фунции
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[23:02:37] _lorien: Почему такое rewrite правило
rewrite ^/viewforum\.php\?id=(\d+).* /forum/$1/ permanent;
не ловит адрес
http://it-omsk.com/viewforum.php?id=20
?
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[23:08:41] _lorien: походу потому что rewrite работает тока с path, не с query string
[23:13:01] mr.oduvan: я тоже иногда люблю сюда зайти и сам себе все объяснить
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[23:23:05] xa4a: для этого есть отличная утилита
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