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[01:04:13] sevenov: блин
[01:04:19] sevenov: как заюзать .image?
[01:04:31] sevenov: это образ hdd вроде как
[01:07:48] xa4a: dd if=.image of=/dev/hda
[01:07:54] xa4a: всё просто)
[01:11:46] sevenov: да нашел уже =)
[01:11:56] sevenov: Хочу haiku затыкать )
[01:12:05] sevenov: все руки не доходили, вот время появилось.
[01:13:44] sevenov: так, нужен livecd :/
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[10:38:54] cutwater: меня интересует можно ли прикрутить к нему reStructuredText и pygments
[10:39:16] cutwater: точней не прикрутил ли кто до меня
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[10:41:50] mishok13: там же оно и так прикручено
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[11:01:30] cutwater: о_О это гуд надо посмотреть
[11:01:38] cutwater: когда последний раз смотррел не находил
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[11:48:26] Izvr: всем привет
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[11:48:56] Izvr: кто мне может объяснить принцип параметров в settings.py django, которые отвечают за медиа-файлы
[11:48:57] cutwater: прив
[11:49:53] Izvr: есть MEDIA_ROOT, MEDIA_URL и ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX
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[11:50:41] Izvr: первый указывает локальную папку, куда я должен класть js, css и прочие файлы
[11:51:06] Izvr: второй по идее означает как к ним обращаться в браузере
[11:51:23] Izvr: а третий как обращаться к файлам, находящимся внутри модуля admin
[11:51:31] Izvr: правильно?
[11:51:35] xa4a: похоже да
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[11:53:55] Izvr: с третьим все нормально работает
[11:54:02] Izvr: а вот с первым и вторым загвоздка
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[11:56:03] Izvr: при попытке обратиться к файлам в указанных директориях по указанным путям он утверждает, что нет таких путей
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[11:57:43] xa4a: может ты урлы не прописал?
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[11:57:49] xa4a: для этих путей
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[11:59:36] Izvr: кхм
[11:59:46] Izvr: а их надо прописывать?
[12:00:22] Izvr: в документации ничего про это не сказано
[12:00:40] Izvr: хотя видимо действительно надо
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[12:02:46] xa4a: то, что ты в сеттингсах прописываешь - используется для темплейт контекст процессора
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[12:02:55] xa4a: MEDIA_URL
[12:03:18] xa4a: а статику в пути прописывать только на дев сервере
[12:03:26] xa4a: на продакшне она должна отдаваться без джанги
[12:03:50] xa4a: if settings.DEBUG: urlpatterns += patterns('', url(r'^media/(?P<path>.*)$', 'django.views.static.serve', {'document_root': settings.MEDIA_ROOT}), )
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[12:08:49] Izvr: ясно
[12:08:53] Izvr: сейчас попробую
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[12:18:49] Izvr: ну в целом получилось, только почему то когда указываешь {{ MEDIA_URL }} в шаблоне он ен подставляет /media/ в получающийся hmtl
[12:18:54] Izvr: там испортить ничего не надо?
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[12:20:44] wonderfulll: так и должен подставлять
[12:21:38] Izvr: дык не подставляет, как долен
[12:21:40] Izvr: должен
[12:22:10] wonderfulll: а что ставит?
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[12:22:55] Izvr: пустоту
[12:23:06] Izvr: т.е. вместо media/header.js выставляет header.js просто
[12:23:23] Izvr: как будто он не подгрузил в шаблон MEDIA_URL
[12:23:23] wonderfulll: ты контекс передаёшь?
[12:23:26] xa4a: контекст процессор
[12:23:42] Izvr: мммм, я вот на счет этого не в курсе
[12:23:48] Izvr: можно на пальцах объяснить?
[12:24:00] xa4a: подключи контекст процессор
[12:24:03] xa4a: медиа
[12:24:09] xa4a: смотри документацию
[12:26:00] wonderfulll: в вьюху добавь context_instance=RequestContext(request)
[12:26:11] xa4a: или юзай render_to
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[12:28:19] wonderfulll: или заверни всё в декаратор :) http://www.djangosnippets.org/snippets/821/
[12:28:23] Izvr: def index(request):
return render_to_response('index.html',)
[12:28:32] Izvr: и так юзаю render_to
[12:28:40] xa4a: нет
[12:28:48] xa4a: !g render_to decorator
[12:28:58] Izvr: я запутался
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[12:29:27] xa4a: посмотри в байтфло
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[12:30:25] Izvr: я вот определил в setting.py TEMPLATECONTEXT_PROCESSORS
[12:30:33] xa4a: _
[12:31:35] Izvr: ?
[12:31:48] xa4a: !g django template_context_processors
[12:31:56] xa4a: ну ман, ман..
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[12:41:25] Izvr: render
[12:41:55] Izvr: render_ro_respons не использует по умолчанию RequestContext?
[12:42:27] xa4a: да, ты прав
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[12:42:47] Izvr: а ему нельзя сказать, чтобы он использовал?
[12:42:59] Izvr: или есть ли аналогичная функция, но чтобы использовала?
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[12:47:45] Izvr: получилось
[12:48:01] Izvr: спасибо
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[13:33:25] wonderfulll: что именно делает related_name в ForeignKey, а то чё-то док читаю и не доходит
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[13:39:18] огыешсук: Да вроде понятно написано. Даже пример есть. http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/db/queries/#backwards-related-objects
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[13:40:45] огыешсук: Если тебе не нравится FOO_set, что по дефолту, то можешь определить ему своё имя. Только и всего.
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[13:41:37] wonderfulll: related_name просто имя задаёт и всё?
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[13:43:27] огыешсук: Съешьте этих мягких французских булочек, да выпейте чаю.
[13:44:06] wonderfulll: огыешсук: оригинальный ответ =)
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[17:23:37] nmk: хороший у тебя вопрос, на 10 строк..
[17:24:10] _lorien: строки разной длины бывают
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[18:56:33] pzskc383: посоветуйте почтовик
[18:56:35] pzskc383: не gmail и m2
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[18:56:46] огыешсук: postfix
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[18:56:55] pzskc383: клиент
[18:56:57] pzskc383: не сервер
[18:57:04] огыешсук: icedove
[18:57:09] pzskc383: и не постфикс а экзим тогда уже
[18:57:17] огыешсук: нет, postfix лучше
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[18:57:25] pzskc383: icedove это thunderbird для дебиана?
[18:57:28] огыешсук: да
[18:57:31] pzskc383: угу
[18:57:44] pzskc383: про постфикс лучше - спорить не стану
[18:57:50] огыешсук: и правильно
[18:58:08] pzskc383: но экзим сносить не буду
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[19:41:15] bobry: ребят, кто подскажет, из питона, можно провернуть что нить а ля killall?
[19:41:26] bobry: т.е. убить группу процессов по имени
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[19:49:54] xa4a: можно
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[19:55:54] sevenov: bobry: ps ax | grep <name> | grep -v grep | awk {'print $1'} | xargs kill -9
[19:55:56] sevenov: как-то так
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[19:58:43] bobry: ну это все таки не из питона)
[19:58:59] bobry: хотелось бы встроеными возможностями, только вот что то их не видно
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[20:21:55] _lorien: bobry, можно анализировать процессы через /proc/\d+ файлы, думаю и далее уже килять их через os.чототам
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[20:24:42] bobry: ну как вариант в принципе, спасибо
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[23:51:07] feedbot: A simple extensible pretty printer for Python. http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/922md/a_simple_extensible_pretty_printer_for_python/
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