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[00:34:44] xa4a: Миграция с CVS на Subversion завершена. Веб-интерфейс расположен по адресу http://svn.php.net/.
[00:37:29] xa4a: пых не стоит на месте
[00:37:37] xa4a: они уже добрались до 90-х
[00:38:09] xa4a: до 00-х
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[00:47:53] cutwater: :D пройдет еще лет так 10 и они напишут свою VCS на PHP
[00:48:02] огыешсук: судя по появлению goto они скора доберутся до уровня fortran 67
[00:48:09] огыешсук: это с полсотни лет в прошлом
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[00:49:15] cutwater: кстати видел поциента который писал кипятком от появления goto в php
[00:50:21] red-agent: это не просто пациента -- это хроники.
[00:50:25] red-agent: *ы
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[03:37:29] : xa4a_ установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://itquest.ru/ | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[17:43:15] xa4a: (12:51:02) feedbot: Деплоймент python проекта: pip & virtualenv
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[17:43:49] xa4a: ато ко мне приставал, даже сам написал раскодировалку
[17:44:00] xa4a: klichuk: wat-wat-wat?
[17:44:03] xa4a: где?
[17:44:28] klichuk: ну я та понял, он с какого-то хтмл парсит эти реплики?
[17:44:44] klichuk: это не дословно название функции или модуля
[17:45:11] xa4a: klichuk: насколько мне известно, в стд. библиотеке такой функциональности не обнаружено
[17:45:29] xa4a: вот такого некогда добился _lorien http://bitbucket.org/xa4a/xapy/src/tip/processors/entities.py
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[20:15:20] tilarids: _lorien, а в твоем блоге что, премодерация комментов?
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[20:15:54] _lorien: tilarids, вроде б нет, хотя может быть для тех, кто первый раз пишет
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[20:16:16] tilarids: _lorien, а. Да я вроде когда-то уже комментил...
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[20:16:30] tilarids: _lorien, в общем, твой блог - фигня. Он мне даже ни сказал ничего
[20:16:36] tilarids: и коммент не показал
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[20:16:57] tilarids: /me в хорошем настроении, буду троллить, пока инет есть
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[20:17:57] _lorien: хм, смотрю в админку, там ещё есть незаапрувленные комментарии, вот дерьмо!
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[20:18:04] _lorien: хорошо, что ты заметил эту фичу
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[20:18:48] tilarids: если сначала под опенид залогинится, а потом писать - всё будет ок
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[20:19:39] _lorien: 34 # Set this to true to get first comment by any user autoapproved
35 # This makes sense if captcha is enabled
36 ANONYMOUS_COMMENTS_APPROVED = True
вообще в тру выставлено, по идее не должно запрещаться
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[20:25:03] _lorien: я сейчас вижу два комментария в админке от tilarids: один незаапрувленный (первый), а второй заапрувленный..
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[20:25:31] Александp: _lorien, а ты проекты под wsgi гоняешь?
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[20:26:22] _lorien: Нет, юзаю древний способ запуска: nginx + fcgi + flup. Щас буду переползать на другой сервер - буду менять на nginx + apache/mod_wsgi
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[20:27:25] _lorien: ну надоело на старом, охото чо-нить новенького :D
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[20:28:41] _lorien: Никаких откровений я не знаю. Проекты у меня маленькие - меня всё устраивает как на mod_wsgi, так и на flup'е
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[20:29:47] Александp: конечно, если есть большая ограниченность в ресурсах, то wsgi имхо рулит
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[20:30:28] red-agent: причем тут ограниченность в ресурсах?
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[20:30:49] red-agent: wsgi -- это новый, актуальный стандартный в деплойменте python веб-аппликух.
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[20:31:07] red-agent: а fcgi + flup/etc -- obsolete.
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[20:32:15] Александp: red-agent, я против wsgi ничего не имею, но самый простой способ его использовать -- через апач, а пересобирать nginx с поддержкой wsgi неохота
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[20:32:57] _lorien: Александp, в nginx какой-то обрезанный mod_wsgi - там какие-то жёсткие ограничения у него
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[20:33:08] red-agent: и он уже не поддерживается.
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[20:33:44] _lorien: Александp, попробуй тогда lighttpd, там mod_wsgi вроде б живой и работает )
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[20:33:57] _lorien: Ой, вру, я там mod_fcgi юзал :-/
[20:34:04] _lorien: Про mod_wsgi в лайти не знаю ничо
[20:34:05] red-agent: Лично меня apache вполне устраивает.
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[20:34:57] red-agent: И на практике, что самое смешное -- оно у меня было, как минимум -- намного стабильнее, и субьективно - развее, не мерял чем nginx + fcgi + flup.
[20:35:08] red-agent: И деплоймент проще.
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[20:35:26] Александp: чем проще?
[20:35:39] Александp: 3 конфига
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[20:36:23] red-agent: всем проще.
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[20:36:30] red-agent: включая запуск аппликух.
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[20:37:08] red-agent: который в случае с nginx + fcgi приходится делать руками.
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[20:37:43] red-agent: и подвязывать через unix socketы.
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[20:39:41] red-agent: еще геморрой с правами на сокеты возникает, ибо аппликухи и нгинкс, обычно запущены от разных юзеров/групп
[20:39:42] Александp: ну, у меня всем этим занимается скрипт, поэтому разницы между deploy'ами двух методов не вижу, но у меня fcgi оказался чуть быстрее
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[20:40:11] red-agent: по-этому приходится либо 777ить, что является security issue, или пускать аппликухи под той же группой, что и nginx nginx
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[20:40:42] red-agent: Александp, скрипт все-равно нужно руками запускать.
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[20:41:25] Александp: ну, а апач рестартоваль разве не надо?
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[20:41:56] red-agent: эээ. а nginx что-ли не надо?
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[20:42:17] Александp: ну так, этим опять же скрипт занимается
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[20:42:45] red-agent: а, все в одном.
[20:42:50] red-agent: не особо трушно, имхо
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[20:43:23] Александp: почему, а как быдет трушно?
[20:43:28] Александp: будет*
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[20:44:52] red-agent: я уже сказал, как по мне -- apache + mod_wsgi подход way больше по душе, включая конфигурацию/запуск
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[20:45:32] sevenov: охох
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[20:45:42] sevenov: я вот проснулся и сразу ржака :-)
[20:45:52] sevenov: Александp: жги еще.
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[20:46:16] sevenov: все эти ваши "у меня скрипт" - хуйня.
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[20:46:30] Александp: sevenov, спасибо, Кэп
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