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[00:34:20] почти лориен:
Уныл Вконтакт, уныла Хабра,
Еды там нет, что жаль. Увы.
А мелкософт хуйню строчит все,
Вот дать бы им сейчас пизды.
Про пыха я не забываю,
К нему качаю ненависть.
Зачем же нужен этот тазик,
Лапши, говна и хуиты?
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[00:34:22] почти лориен: =)
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[00:34:43] sevenov: ммм
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[00:37:32] cutwater: красота
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[00:39:12] _lorien: Я люблю бога, он есть моё царство
PHP мне мил - забудем его мытарства.
Бывают все неправы, но нужно дальше жить.
Давай вместе будем дружно PHP любить.
[00:39:26] cutwater: ыыы
[00:39:43] cutwater: пых в моем уютненьком pythonua@
[00:39:45] _lorien: Вообще хуйня разноритмовая, но ща лень мозг напрягать )
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[00:40:08] cutwater: всем сн, товариши.
[00:40:37] cutwater: да не помутит пых ваши взоры
[00:40:38] sevenov: _lorien: плохой стих =)
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[00:42:11] piranha: стихи про пхп без ритма - моветон,
и авторов их окунал бы я в бетон
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[00:47:10] _lorien: Вконтакт прекрасен, хабр чертовски мил -
Питает он меня, даёт мне новых сил.
А в microsoft по прежнему колдуют
И лучших среди нас к себе вербуют.
А PHP тем временем пыхтит на серверах
Ему благоволят и бог и будда и аллах
Весь мир в экстазе строить веб два ноль
И ожидает google waves, со страстью, как Ассоль.
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[00:49:07] piranha: а есть аналог zip(), но чтоб не прекращал выдавать значения, когда один из список закончился?
[00:49:29] piranha: ну т.е. чтоб не

>>> zip([1,2,3], [1,2])
[(1, 1), (2, 2)]

а

>>> zip([1,2,3], [1,2])
[(1, 1), (2, 2), (3, None)]


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[00:49:49] xa4a: да
[00:50:06] xa4a: где-то был
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[00:50:24] piranha: во, и я это помню, но не могу найти
[00:50:44] xa4a: itertools.izip_longest
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[00:50:49] feedbot: Neopythonic: Progressive vs. Conservative http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/93ahw/neopythonic_progressive_vs_conservative/
[00:50:51] piranha: ох
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[00:51:00] piranha: xa4a: нету такого
[00:51:03] piranha: это видать из 2.6
[00:51:06] xa4a: похоже
[00:51:17] piranha: а оно в сях реализовано, не в курсе?
[00:51:30] piranha: ага...
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[00:54:50] _lorien: >>> zip(*map(None, [0], [0, 1]))
[(0, None), (0, 1)]
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[00:55:31] piranha: о, зачод
[00:56:00] xa4a: тоесть без zip
[00:56:00] piranha: ооо кхул
[00:56:17] xa4a: In [3]: map(None, "abc", [1,2])Out[3]: [('a', 1), ('b', 2), ('c', None)]
[00:56:33] piranha: гы, реально
[00:56:51] _lorien: гы, точно, нафик zip )
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[00:57:06] gigimon: а чего значит звездочка? не подскажите?)

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[00:57:11] gigimon: перед мапом
[00:57:16] piranha: поцкажем
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[00:57:33] piranha: >>> def a(i, k):
... print i, k
...
>>> a(*[1,2])
1 2

[00:57:56] _lorien: звёздочка значит, шо элементы массива попадут в функцию как неименованные аргументы
[00:57:58] sevenov: gigimon: это же args
[00:58:05] gigimon: а

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[00:58:10] gigimon: понял :) спасибо
[00:58:12] piranha: !python args kwargs
[00:58:18] sevenov: *args, **kwargs
[00:59:45] gigimon: понял
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[10:07:36] indieman: привет.
[10:07:57] indieman: подскажите пожалуйста, как кодировку сменить в mysql?
[10:08:03] indieman: щас покажу что в конфе написал
[10:08:11] indieman: все это входит в состав xampp
[10:08:34] indieman: в [client] дописал
[10:08:35] indieman: default-character-set=utf8
[10:09:03] indieman: в [mysql]
[10:09:06] indieman: default-character-set=utf8
collation_server=utf8_unicode_ci

character-set-server=utf8

init-connect="SET names utf8"
skip-character-set-client-handshake
[10:09:32] indieman: ой. вернее, это в [mysqld]
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[10:09:47] indieman: а в [mysql]
default-character-set=utf8
[10:09:54] indieman: что-то уже попробовал по разному.
[10:10:14] indieman: ничего не помогает. когда-то уже сталкивался, но решал проблему изменением кодировки прямо в скриптах.
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[10:11:20] wonderfulll: это тебе для Джанги?
[10:11:32] indieman: угу
[10:12:04] indieman: ну лучше уже как-нибудь без заплаток настроить. а то надоело уже каждый раз фик знает как заставлять работать)
[10:12:18] indieman: в последний раз я нашел кучу вариантов и один из них как-то заработал.
[10:12:24] indieman: а, да. система windows xp
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[10:12:31] indieman: смотрю в консоли кодировки.
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[10:12:44] indieman: mysql> show variables like 'coll%';
[10:12:53] indieman: mysql> show variables like 'char%';
[10:12:55] indieman: во)
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[10:16:01] wonderfulll: create database db_name charset=utf8;
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[10:17:29] indieman: эм... ну в смысле попробовать такую создать? почему выводится все как-будто у меня все еще латин?
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[10:19:57] wonderfulll: ты как создаёшь базу?
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[10:24:19] indieman: а я ее не создаю.
[10:24:26] indieman: создавать щас попробовал. создалась.
[10:24:31] indieman: я смотрю просто на переменные.
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[10:24:50] indieman: mysql> show variables like 'char%';
[10:24:51] indieman: mysql> show variables like 'coll%';
[10:24:58] indieman: все из консоли виндовой.
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[10:26:45] wonderfulll: ну создаёшь базу с парамертом utf и всё работает нормально
[10:27:02] wonderfulll: в чём проблема?
[10:27:09] indieman: а почему переменные пишутся с латином, в этом и проблема)
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[10:28:56] cutwater: проблема в кодировке соединения же
[10:29:05] cutwater: а не в кодировке таблиц
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[10:29:33] indieman: а как это исправить?
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[10:29:47] indieman: это может быть из за того, что я из консоли в которой фик знает какая кодировка?
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[10:30:30] wonderfulll: типо если ты джанго вешаешь на эту таблицу он всё в латине записывает?
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[10:31:21] indieman: я вообще не пробовал еще вешать ни на какую таблицу. меня просто очень смущает то, что пишет в переменных кодировку латин везде и там еще что-то шведское. и только в кодировке системы пишет utf8
[10:31:30] indieman: а я уже вроде все что только можно попробовал менять.
[10:31:49] cutwater: ну во первых чарсет таблиц надо правильно выставлять
[10:31:59] cutwater: да по дефолту там latin1_swedish_ci
[10:32:09] cutwater: алсо... mysql гавно
[10:32:25] piranha: у джанги 1.1rc вышел... ну они и опаздывают, просто ад
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[10:32:36] piranha: а мускул за такой дефолт надо бы запилить давно, блин
[10:32:58] cutwater: у мускла вообще писец
[10:33:04] indieman: эм... т.е. кодировку таблиц, что значит правильно?
[10:33:08] cutwater: одна кодировка на таблицу, другая на соединение
[10:33:12] piranha: та да
[10:33:13] piranha: ад
[10:33:14] cutwater: третья еще на чего-то там
[10:33:26] cutwater: и главное они друг от друга могут не зависеть.
[10:33:29] cutwater: это задница.
[10:33:53] indieman: cutwater: ну я же вроде все написал)
[10:33:57] indieman: все, что только можно)
[10:33:59] piranha: ну на базу ж есть
[10:34:22] indieman: или что-то недописал?
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[10:34:34] cutwater: indieman, как минимум тебе нужно чтобы таблицы были созданы с указанием utf8_general_ci к примеру
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[10:34:53] cutwater: как это на уровне django модели сделать в душе ниипу
[10:35:11] cutwater: и чтобы при подклюении к базе выполнялся запрос SET NAMES utf-8;
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[10:35:31] indieman: ну это стоит вроде как. должно по идее выполняться.
[10:35:34] indieman: а что же тогда делать?
[10:35:40] indieman: как же вообще люди живут?)))
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[10:36:26] cutwater: обычно меняют mysql на постгрес
[10:36:35] cutwater: и живут без проблем
[10:36:37] indieman: вот черт)
[10:37:05] piranha: cutwater: оно само делает
[10:37:18] piranha: indieman: alter table qweqwe set charset utf-8 вроде
[10:37:25] piranha: только никто не гарантирует, что данные сохранятся
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[10:37:30] cutwater: piranha, что именно делает само?
[10:37:41] indieman: ок) мне все равно на данные. щас попробую. спс.
[10:37:42] cutwater: кстати в настройках mysql это менять имхо неправильно
[10:37:49] indieman: что менять?
[10:38:07] cutwater: кодировку и стартовый запрос
[10:38:11] piranha: cutwater: само джанго делает set names utf8
[10:38:14] piranha: не?
[10:38:15] cutwater: ааа
[10:38:39] indieman: piranha: ой. так этож кодировку у базы менять?
[10:39:23] indieman: у меня просто выводятся вот такие штуки...
[10:39:29] indieman: +--------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Variable_name | Value |
+--------------------------+--------------------------------+
| character_set_client | latin1 |
| character_set_connection | latin1 |
| character_set_database | latin1 |
| character_set_filesystem | binary |
| character_set_results | latin1 |
| character_set_server | latin1 |
| character_set_system | utf8 |
| character_sets_dir | C:\xampp\mysql\share\charsets\ |
+--------------------------+--------------------------------+
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[10:39:34] indieman: а мне хочется исправить..
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[10:40:58] piranha: indieman: http://4matic.wordpress.com/2006/11/11/izmenenie-kodirovki-tablits-v-mysql/
[10:40:59] piranha: %)))
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[10:41:35] indieman: аааа)) кошмаааар)
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[10:43:44] cutwater: indieman, выкинь каку, пользуйся postgresql
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[10:48:13] RaD: djbook.ru пятая глава, там есть всё
[10:49:13] indieman: ага. я тоже эту главу почитал)
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[10:49:25] indieman: вот там же так же п выводят переменные)
[10:49:27] RaD: ну дык, там явно прописано как настраивать БД
[10:49:31] indieman: и они у них почему-то нормальные)
[10:49:32] RaD: не раз проверено
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[10:49:36] indieman: там 5 строк)
[10:49:41] indieman: котороые я конечно же пробовал
[10:49:48] indieman: сорри. 3)
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[10:50:42] RaD: сервис бд перезапустить, саму бд создать с нуля
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[10:51:30] indieman: да перезапускаю я)
у меня не уходит дальше первого пункта простО)
[10:51:44] indieman: Используем кодировку UTF-8, пример для MySQL
Откроем на редактирование файл /etc/mysql/my.cnf.
В конец секции [client] добавим строчку:
default-character-set=utf8
В конец секции [mysqld] добавим строчки:
default-character-set=utf8
collation_server=utf8_unicode_ci
Теперь следует перезапустить сервер базы данных и можно приступать к созданию самой базы.
[10:51:47] indieman: вот этого)
[10:52:08] RaD: у тебя пятый мускул?
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[10:55:31] indieman: 5.1.33 фух. нашел)
[10:55:43] indieman: RaD:
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[10:56:27] RaD: значит ты что-то делаешь не так
[10:56:54] indieman: ну я как бы не спорю. потому что не думаю, что ни у кого все это не работает) я просто не пойму что я делаю не так)
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[10:57:50] RaD: если сделать всё буквально, то работает
[10:57:51] RaD: строчки вставил?
[10:58:23] indieman: ну да. щас все почикаю и еще раз попробую. может конечно что-то пропустил. хоят там 3 строки)
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[11:01:18] indieman: да. честно все почикал и вставил все три строки) ребутнул базу и проверил переменные.
[11:01:50] RaD: не!
[11:02:04] indieman: да!) что не?)
[11:02:05] RaD: после ребута базы надо удалить саму базу данных, я про drop database
[11:02:22] RaD: потом create database и вот там уже будут правильные переменные
[11:02:29] indieman: ну а какую базу данных надо удалить?
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[11:03:04] indieman: я и не создавал никакой. там только стандартные какие-то.
[11:03:08] RaD: короче, переменные учитываются только при _создании_ базы данных
[11:04:02] indieman: а что же за переменные она мне выводит тогда? я же не выбрал базу никакую вообще
[11:04:17] RaD: значит твои изменения проигнорированы
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[11:04:29] RaD: ты точно тот конфиг правишь? тот сервер? :)
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[11:04:42] indieman: ну да. у меня один. вообще один файл my.ini
[11:05:00] indieman: я его правлю, ребучу сервак. и просто смотрю переменные. я не дошел еще до баз)
[11:05:06] RaD: /etc/mysql/my.cnf
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[11:05:31] indieman: ну у меня винда)
[11:05:47] RaD: ;)
[11:05:57] indieman: а так. да.. лежит в mysql
[11:06:04] indieman: только он my.ini тут
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[11:09:18] RaD: я хз, может в винде что-то по-другому
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[11:09:33] indieman: это просто праздник какой-то)
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[11:20:10] RaD: хм, у меня есть форма для изменения данных о пользователе, там же есть поле для пароля
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[11:21:00] RaD: на это поле привязан валидатор, логика формы такая: это поле отображается пустым, если остаётся пустым при посте, то пароль не меняется, если в поле есть данные, то назначается новый пароль
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[11:21:30] RaD: когда открываешь форму, сразу же срабатывает валидатор на то, что поле пустое (к паролю требование - минимум 8 символов)
[11:22:01] RaD: как бы отключать этот валидатор, когда он не нужен
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[12:40:01] лорд Морфий: ку, а никто случаем не помнит, как в джанге поле choices самостоятельно генерить ??? ты передо формированием формы ?
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[12:41:04] _lorien: field = forms.ChoiceField(choices=...)
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[12:47:23] rahs: лорд Морфий, как-то так:

class MyForm(forms.Form):
def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
s = (('1','адын'))

super(MyForm, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
self.fields['myfield'].choices = [('', '----------')] + s
myfield = forms.ChoiceField(choices=(), required = True)
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[12:54:33] лорд Морфий: спасибо
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[13:30:41] nmk: а ни у кого не было, что флэш из под линукса на аплоаде тупо вешает браузер ?
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[13:33:04] _lorien: у меня так недавно вконтакт завис
[13:33:29] _lorien: у меня 9-й флеш, шобы можно было рисовать во вконтакте на стене, с десятым флеше не работает эта функция
[13:34:04] _lorien: и ещё могу сказать, что у меня очень медленный upload, не знаю почему
[13:34:06] nmk: у меня 10ка. но у меня на одном проекте та же флешка работает нормально, тут плохо. конифиги nginxа одинаковые, код тупо скопипастен, вообще не понимаю что за ерунда.
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[13:34:33] _lorien: м.б. разные версии nginx
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[13:34:51] xa4a: о, в 9-м работает?
[13:34:53] _lorien: например была такая фича, что lighttpd не работал с линуксовым флешем, когда файл через swfupload заливался o_O
[13:35:03] _lorien: xa4a, ага
[13:35:04] xa4a: а то я рисовал колорпейнтом и аплоадил скриптом на стену :D
[13:35:18] _lorien: я тоже так хотел, потом решил всё же погуглить )
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[13:35:56] tilarids: а нормальные люди вышли из этой ситуации еще проще ;)
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[13:36:20] nmk: да не. версии одинаковые. я даже больше скажу, это один nginx. там в 10ке косяк есть, что флэш куки на апплоад не передает. но это я обошел. причем виснет так, что до моего cherrypy сервера запросы не доходят, проснифил, nginx в конце говорит continue и все. флэш больше не стучит никуда
[13:36:31] nmk: можно конечно дебаг в нгинксе вклчить
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[13:37:56] nmk: а в логах нгинкса "POST /api/upload/ HTTP/1.0" 400 0 "-" "Shockwave Flash" "-"
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[13:39:56] xa4a: _lorien: он намекает, что вконтакт не нужен
[13:40:22] _lorien: Я понимаю, я хотел доебаться как-нубудь по этому поводу :D
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[13:41:14] _lorien: Например, сказать, что все люди нормальные. А если мы называем кого-то ненормальным, то мы или боимся или завидуем или пытаемся выразать степень своего превосходства над другим. Любые из этих вариантов непрактичны.
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[14:23:32] a1key.here: проблема есть на 10000000$ :)
[14:23:43] cutwater: как скажешь
[14:23:53] огыешсук: аванс вперед
[14:23:54] a1key.here: делаю сборку скрипта с wxpython с py2exe
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[14:24:22] a1key.here: если указываю 'bundle_files': 3 то все нормально выглядит
[14:24:30] a1key.here: под тему системы
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[14:24:41] a1key.here: если 'bundle_files': 1 то как в 9x
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[14:25:38] a1key.here: вот такие странности
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[14:29:24] cutwater: щас... по идее тебе надо манифест еще подключить
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[14:30:14] cutwater: http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread119284.html
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[14:30:52] cutwater: a1key.here, попробуй сделать манифест (manifest_template там и подключить его в other_resources)
[14:31:00] nmk: джанга то уже rc
[14:31:10] cutwater: a1key.here, алсо с тебя 10000000$
[14:31:31] a1key.here: угу) манифест подключен уже
[14:31:59] cutwater: и че?
[14:32:16] cutwater: кодец в студию
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[14:33:44] xa4a: дампни кодца
[14:33:57] cutwater: slav0nic, ты тут?
[14:34:05] cutwater: ты у себя в блоге про Cogen писал
[14:34:18] cutwater: интересно услышать как он щас, ты его используешь?
[14:34:28] a1key.here: вот setup.py http://dumpz.org/10845/
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[14:36:22] slav0nic: cutwater, он не развивается
[14:36:27] cutwater: ясно
[14:36:41] cutwater: просто сейчас на сервере работает nginx -> apache + mod_wsgi
[14:36:46] cutwater: думаю как это облегчить
[14:36:52] cutwater: и убрать нафиг апач
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[14:37:33] cutwater: можешь что-нибудь посоветовать?
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[14:38:22] a1key.here: с таким setup.py все нормально собирается, но стиль win 9x а не какая сейчас тема стоит. с bundle_files 1 собирается стиль нормальный но нужно все в 1 ексешник
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[14:42:26] nmk: cutwater: а разве кто-то кроме апача умеет плавный рестарт? без откидывания подключившихся клиентов?
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[14:43:10] cutwater: планировали перейти вообще на lighttpd
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[14:45:16] Casufi: Всем добрый день. Мне нужно распарсить текстовый файл, пытаюсс сделат ьэто при помощи такого скриптика http://dumpz.org/10846/
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[14:45:58] cutwater: read скобки забыл
[14:46:05] Casufi: В ответ получаю ругань m = globalitems.match(mypage)
TypeError: expected string or buffer
[14:46:19] Casufi: питон 2.6
[14:46:25] cutwater: Casufi, говорю же скобки забыл в read
[14:46:28] xa4a: read()
[14:46:45] огыешсук: mypage()
[14:46:53] cutwater: )))
[14:47:22] cutwater: огыешсук, это зло и неправильно
[14:47:22] Casufi: спасибо, вроде пошло
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[14:49:30] xa4a: а torrentpier не умеет рсс, что ли?
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[15:14:06] лорд Морфий: блин, чего-то я торможу, всю голову сломал, посмотрите пожалуйста http://dumpz.org/10847/
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[15:15:07] xa4a: какую ошибку?
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[15:33:54] лорд Морфий: что требуется список или массив
[15:34:25] лорд Морфий: я помню, что как-то примитивно делается, но не помню как :(((
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[15:40:27] RaD: по моему там ключами должны быть цифры
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[15:40:41] xa4a: попробуй туда генератор передать
[15:41:09] xa4a: т.к. исходники говорят, что 257 if self.choices:258 return first_choice + list(self.choices)
[15:41:24] RaD: types = [(), (), ()]
[15:41:28] xa4a: а
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[15:47:26] лорд Морфий: пробывал, оно кешируется и не генерится при повторном вызове
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[15:48:40] xa4a: в крайнем случае - сделать своё поле, в котором перегрузить _get_choices
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[15:49:30] лорд Морфий: xa4a: свое поле ??? хм, щас попробую
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[15:49:58] xa4a: но скорее всего это кто-то уже сделал до тебя
[15:50:10] RaD: чтоб не кэшировалось делай внешнюю функцию с лямбдой
[15:50:24] RaD: пример есть в джангобуке, вроде в секции про RSS
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[15:50:56] RaD: че курите то :)
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[15:51:44] RaD: при создании объекта класса там всё вычисляется сразу, поэтому и не меняется ничего
[15:52:19] лорд Морфий: xa4a: я как-то раньше сам такое делал, но не помню как ;(
[15:52:25] _lorien: лорд Морфий, переопредели форму для Graficks, генерируй каждый раз choices динамически
[15:52:29] лорд Морфий: полгода с джангой не связывался и все забыл
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[15:52:52] лорд Морфий: _lorien: а можно где-нить пример увидеть, хотя бы похожесть
[15:53:08] _lorien: щас
[15:53:35] лорд Морфий: _lorien: спасибо, жду ;)
[15:54:16] _lorien: http://dumpz.org/10849/ - я здесь виджет изменяю, для любого другого свойства любого поля формы можно по аналогии сделать
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[15:54:39] Izvr: господа, у меня очередная проблема, я делаю вот так http://dumpz.org/10850/
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[15:55:10] Izvr: теперь пытаюсь с полученным объектом что то сделать(а именно - отрисовать из него дерево), но не очень понимаю как правильно к нему подойти
[15:55:25] RaD: что это за язык :)
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[15:55:41] Izvr: javascpirt
[15:55:46] Izvr: если ты мне
[15:55:47] _lorien: полученный объект это список хэшей, к элементам списка и хэа адресация в js едания
[15:55:56] _lorien: foo[0]
foo['asdf'] или foo.asdf
[15:56:05] _lorien: едания = единая
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[15:56:37] _lorien: для итерации по списку элементов используется конструкция for ;-) и т.д.
[15:56:58] _lorien: конкретно в jquery удобно делать $(obj).each(function() {...});
[15:57:20] лорд Морфий: _lorien: спасибо - буду пробывать
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[15:57:53] RaD: _lorien: чета замудрил
[15:59:02] _lorien: RaD, я так понял, что человек не понимает, как полученный объект превратить в набор DOM-элементов. Я попытался объяснить.
[15:59:09] RaD:
def generate_choices():
генерирует
return [(), (), ()]
class Graphics(models.Model):
type = models.CharField(max_length=3, choices=generate_choices())
[15:59:20] _lorien: а, ты про другое )
[15:59:22] RaD: _lorien: я про choices
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[15:59:35] xa4a: без ()
[15:59:40] RaD: c
[15:59:46] xa4a: ок, я не слежу)
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[15:59:58] _lorien: как-то это выглядит странно, может быть просто непривычно, но мне не нравится )
[15:59:59] лорд Морфий: RaD: оно вызывается 1 раз
[16:00:10] _lorien: что choices генерятся динамически *в модели*, я б в форме генерил
[16:00:31] _lorien: тем более, что один раз :D
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[16:00:44] RaD: ну да, я про формы говорю
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[16:01:29] RaD: http://dumpz.org/10851/ - я вообще choice со словаря делаю
[16:01:42] _lorien: а вот интересно, если в choices=foo будет функция, которая возвращает итератор... Ведь потом итератор может каждый раз заново генерировать нужные значения для итерации
[16:02:12] RaD: типа того
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[16:02:50] Izvr: эмм
[16:03:05] Izvr: доктор, меня все игнорируют
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[16:03:33] лорд Морфий: _lorien: только что проверил, генератор вызывается 1 раз
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[16:03:56] _lorien: лорд Морфий, так генери в форме, в чём проблема?
[16:04:11] _lorien: Izvr, я ж тебе выше написал :-/
[16:04:11] лорд Морфий: _lorien: я про это и забыл ;)
[16:04:13] RaD: Izvr: может на javascript@conference?
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[16:04:30] лорд Морфий: _lorien: завтра со светлой головой буду генерить в форме ;)
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[16:04:41] Izvr: кхм, спасибо
[16:04:43] Izvr: сейчас попробую
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[16:04:55] _lorien: лорд Морфий, ок, договорились :D
[16:05:06] лорд Морфий: _lorien: спасибо, а то я чего-то торможу под вечер
[16:05:25] RaD: почитал вчера про сео, нет в жизни счастья
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[16:05:27] лорд Морфий: _lorien: хотя и с утра тоже не очень был. ..... ;)))))
[16:05:29] огыешсук: _lorien: во-во, я вообще дошел до того, что генерю класс формы в templatetag`е, в зависимости от переданного параметра. Ибо нужно choices популейтить в зависимости от.
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[16:06:18] _lorien: RaD, если есть деньги, лучше дай их тому, кто разбирается, только вот его ещё надо найти )
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[16:06:37] _lorien: RaD, как вариант, попробуй это http://seopult.ru/
[16:07:11] огыешсук: предпочёл бы, чтобы choices забивались в зависимости от параметра, но как вчера выяснилось, "__init__(self): self.f=...choises=наша выборка" в классе формы не пашет :o(
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[16:07:48] RaD: откуда лишние деньги
[16:07:55] _lorien: надо не self.f, а
super(...)
self.fields['foo'].choices = ...
[16:08:04] _lorien: RaD, я не говорил *лишние*
[16:08:05] огыешсук: s/чтобы choices забивались в зависимости от параметра/чтобы choices забивались в зависимости от параметра при __init__`е формы
[16:08:25] огыешсук: _lorien: а почему?
[16:08:40] _lorien: огыешсук, так джанга сделана )
[16:08:52] огыешсук: _lorien: разве до super`а это не обычные атрибуты класса?
[16:08:53] _lorien: метаклассы, вся хуйня ;-)
[16:09:10] _lorien: до супера тоже можно, но только надо sef.base_fields['foo']
[16:09:14] огыешсук: ok, сейчас попробую
[16:09:18] _lorien: Вообще я просто знаю, но не понимаю внутреннего устройства
[16:09:24] wonderfulll: что в Линуксе mtime показывает, а то шибко уж от Виндоуз отличается?
[16:09:26] огыешсук: вот я и пытаюсь понять
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[16:09:43] огыешсук: но видно пока в код не посмотришь, не поймёшь
[16:09:48] _lorien: открывай django/forms/* файлы и понимай )
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[16:11:52] mishok13: wonderfulll, доку читал?
[16:12:16] mishok13: """
Note: The exact meaning and resolution of the st_atime, st_mtime, and st_ctime members depends on the operating system and the file system. For example, on Windows systems using the FAT or FAT32 file systems, st_mtime has 2-second resolution, and st_atime has only 1-day resolution. See your operating system documentation for details.
"""
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[16:12:48] Большой Лис: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/07/20/youtube-drop-ie6/
[16:14:28] wonderfulll: mishok13: понятно, а по какому параметру тогда ориентироваться когда файл был создан
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[16:16:31] mishok13: формально говоря -- никак
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[16:17:39] mishok13: ты можешь различными ухищрениями этого добиться, но в линуксе (и вообще в юниксах) информация о времени создании файла обычно не хрнаится
[16:17:52] mishok13: *хранится
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[16:22:18] mishok13: угадай с двух раз
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[16:23:01] mishok13: mtime оно выводит
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[16:24:45] wonderfulll: (mode, ino, dev, nlink, uid, gid, size, atime, mtime, ctime) = os.stat(dir+fname)
xls.append({ 'fname':fname, 'time':time.strftime("%Y.%m.%d - %H:%M", time.localtime(mtime)) })
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[16:25:08] wonderfulll: вроде тож самое должно выводить
[16:25:31] wonderfulll: или я чёт накосячил?
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[16:28:04] mishok13: mishok@magicpony:~/nonwork/project_euler$ python -c "import os, time; print time.strftime('%Y.%m.%d - %H:%M', time.localtime(os.stat('./utils.py').st_mtime))"
2009.01.12 - 17:40
mishok@magicpony:~/nonwork/project_euler$ ls -l utils.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 mishok mishok 2629 2009-01-12 17:40 utils.py
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[16:30:49] RaD: чёрт, а как в джанге отлавливать попытку создать пользователя с дублирующимся логином
[16:31:12] RaD: неужели в валидаторе поля формы делать запрос в БД?
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[16:32:49] Большой Лис: ну да
[16:32:50] RaD: по-моему, это некошерно...
[16:32:58] Большой Лис: :DD
[16:33:59] Большой Лис: конечно, кошерно, это когда джанга сама догадается есть там такой логин или нет, без запроса? :))
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[16:39:23] RaD: ага, зафиксил, работает как часики
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[16:40:29] RaD: /me по-прежнему с содроганием вспоминает годы разработки на PHP
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[16:43:25] Большой Лис: :D
[16:43:34] Большой Лис: да, это было страшно
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[16:55:20] wonderfulll: mishok13: крч, забыл в Джанге часовой пояс поставить =)
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[18:35:34] _lorien: if ArmUser.objects.filter(username=value).count() > 0:
> 0 лишнее
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[18:36:32] _lorien: The username is already exist
а так равзе можно? is.. exist?
[18:37:07] _lorien: match(r'^[A-Za-z0-9]+$
если match, то ^ можно опустить
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[18:40:45] xa4a: _lorien: is exist нельзя
[18:41:06] xa4a: /me покосился на RaD
[18:41:16] xa4a: кто-то изобретает django-registration
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[18:44:51] Stanislav Pugachev: pylons сильно от django отличается?
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[18:46:03] _lorien: как минимум названием
[18:47:08] _lorien: orm там другая и шаблонный движок не знаю какой, но точно не джанговский :D
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[18:47:57] xa4a: mako/jinja, вроде шаблоны
[18:48:10] xa4a: и ормы разные можно, если не ошибаюсь
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[18:50:00] Stanislav Pugachev: я вот паражаюсь просто) главный девелопер сам джангист выбрал для проекта пилоны и взяли еще 2х джангистов
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[18:50:18] Stanislav Pugachev: есть пилонщики нормальные? помогите раздуплиться по быстрому )
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[18:51:18] red-agent: _lorien, да там почти в каждом предложения кора
[18:51:24] red-agent: вроде "The username must contains of latin symbols and numbers."
[18:52:24] _lorien: Хм, а я посмотрел в гугль, там много таких оборотов "must contains of" - тыща штук )
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[18:55:54] red-agent: учитывая, что в переводе на русский, это примерно "должно содержит из". А все предложение - "Имя пользователя должно содержит из латинский символов и чисел."
[18:56:25] _lorien: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22must%20contains%20of%22 вот
[18:57:33] _lorien: Stanislav Pugachev, может, скучно парню стало )
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[18:58:45] red-agent:
_lorien, Чтобы показать наиболее значимые результаты, мы опустили некоторые, очень похожие на 19 уже показанных.
Если вы хотите, можно повторить поиск, включив опущенные результаты.
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[20:33:02] Большой Лис: http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/090722/RF2YHTlUib.jpg
[20:33:15] Большой Лис: вид из окна гостиницы, где я был недавно
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[20:35:57] xa4a: хм
[20:36:03] xa4a: мой дом почти видно
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[20:37:22] огыешсук: А как в git`е сказануть аналог svn`овского svn status и svn diff?
[20:37:41] Большой Лис: ты будешь в шоке
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[20:37:44] Большой Лис: git status
[20:37:46] red-agent: Большой Лис, это ж Украина, не?
[20:37:46] Большой Лис: git diff
[20:37:54] xa4a: red-agent: киев, майдан
[20:37:55] red-agent: гостиница, всмысле
[20:37:57] Большой Лис: red-agent, майден незалэжности :)
[20:37:58] xa4a: да..
[20:38:01] Большой Лис: аа, ну да
[20:38:03] Большой Лис: да
[20:38:05] Большой Лис: она самая
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[20:43:01] Большой Лис: а в инет неоткуда было выйти
[20:43:14] Большой Лис: так бы может сдабылись
[20:43:23] Большой Лис: пефка побухали, мало-мало :)
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[20:43:57] red-agent: Большой Лис, ээ
[20:44:12] red-agent: там не было что-ли вайфая?
[20:44:28] red-agent: к тому же, во всяких кафешках есть.
[20:44:43] xa4a: в глобусе тонны вайфая
[20:44:55] xa4a: Большой Лис: ты высоко жил
[20:44:56] red-agent: угу.
[20:45:14] Большой Лис: я девайсов с собой никаких не брал :)
[20:45:20] Большой Лис: xa4a, 9-ый этаж
[20:45:29] red-agent: xa4a, я как-то навардрайвил вайфайный инет у проф. союзов
[20:45:30] red-agent: :D
[20:45:43] red-agent: пока стоял на парковке без дела
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[20:46:35] red-agent: я правда не уверен, был-то инет проф. созов или юнитрейда или еще какого магазина ;D
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[20:50:49] feedbot: Formal Business Letter Online PDF Generator - Written in Python http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/93kb6/formal_business_letter_online_pdf_generator/
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[20:54:50] red-agent: [20:45:16] Большой Лис: я девайсов с собой никаких не брал :)
[20:54:54] red-agent: Умно, хуле...
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[20:57:29] Большой Лис: а хуле
[20:57:37] Большой Лис: таможеники вдоску охуевшие стали
[20:57:47] red-agent: это да.
[20:57:48] Большой Лис: шо украинские, шо приднестровские
[20:57:59] Большой Лис: царями себя возомнили
[20:58:00] red-agent: да они все теперь ебанутые на голову.
[20:58:04] red-agent: особенно в аэропортах
[20:58:16] red-agent: не стесняются шмонать ноуты, кпк.
[20:58:18] Большой Лис: я ибал нервничать из-за того что у какого гандона на мой ноут "встанет"
[20:58:20] red-agent: все, что найдут.
[20:58:47] xa4a: /me год назад ноут в аэропорту возил без проблем
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[21:16:36] sevenov_: xa4a: пару недель назад друг прилетел, с ноутом, с гитарой -- и ничего )
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[23:09:32] sevenov: Человеки! Я нашел его!
[23:09:38] sevenov: @Disabler есть в жуйке =)
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[23:12:19] xa4a: есть же в питоне какой-то встроенный multi-value dict?
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[23:12:54] Большой Лис: нет
[23:12:56] Большой Лис: нету
[23:12:57] sevenov: xa4a: в джанге вроде бы есть
[23:13:01] Большой Лис: в джанге его сделали сами
[23:13:02] sevenov: MultiValueSict
[23:13:05] sevenov: *Dict
[23:13:06] xa4a: я без джанги
[23:13:15] Большой Лис: ну выдерни оттуда
[23:13:18] Большой Лис: реализацию
[23:13:33] wiz: MultiValueDict = collections.defaultdict(list)
[23:13:35] xa4a: а, ну так..
[23:13:42] sevenov: xa4a: http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/django/utils/datastructures.py#L170
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[23:15:49] xa4a: угу, спасибо..
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