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[02:50:21] feedbot: Язык программирования Python / Boo — питонообразный .NET язык http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/66592/
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[04:50:19] feedbot: Double or single quotes? http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/98ugm/double_or_single_quotes/
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[04:55:30] sevenov: Кстати, интересная тема
[04:56:36] sevenov: я предпочитаю ' использовать в ключах, а " в значениях. Типа такого: d = { 'key': "value" }, соответственно, var = "text".
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[10:55:40] red-agent is now Searching the witch...
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[10:57:29] A2K is now online
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[11:19:26] sintetico is now Доступен
[11:19:50] A2K is now online
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[11:25:30] erraen is now online
[11:25:31] erraen is now online
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[11:30:31] erraen is now online
[11:30:32] erraen is now online
[11:30:38] rfafdls is now offline
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[11:35:32] erraen is now online
[11:35:33] erraen is now online
[11:37:48] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[11:38:37] Lolka is now online
[11:38:46] slav0nic is now xa
[11:39:19] PC is now xa
[11:39:52] A2K is now online
[11:40:15] Lolka: а я предпочитаю использовать одинарные, где юникод u'' и двойные, где просто str
[11:40:18] Lolka: хм)
[11:40:22] Lolka: даже не задумывался)
[11:40:31] XIT is now away
[11:40:32] erraen is now online
[11:40:34] erraen is now online
[11:41:03] red-agent is now offline
[11:41:04] red-agent is now Searching the witch...
[11:41:27] _lorien: я везде использую одинарные
[11:41:30] _lorien: в шаблонах джанговских вдойные
[11:42:48] GrimbleGromble is now online
[11:42:57] Lolka: кстати, а как работает это u''
[11:43:02] unk2k is now away
[11:43:04] Lolka: всмысле, можно что то похожее свое сделать?
[11:43:11] Lolka: там t'', k''?
[11:43:35] piranha: не
[11:43:46] piranha: это тупо синтаксис языка
[11:43:52] Lolka: эх...)
[11:43:58] piranha: =)
[11:44:06] Lolka: получается, в третьем уже нет такого, да?
[11:44:37] cutwater is now away
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[11:44:57] piranha: там u'' заменили на '', а '' заменили на b''
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[11:50:33] erraen is now online
[11:50:34] erraen is now online
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[11:58:41] A2K is now online
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[12:00:35] erraen is now online
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[12:05:34] erraen is now online
[12:05:35] erraen is now online
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[12:09:55] A2K is now online
[12:10:35] erraen is now online
[12:10:36] erraen is now online
[12:14:56] A2K is now online
[12:15:09] GrimbleGromble is now online
[12:15:35] erraen is now online
[12:15:36] erraen is now online
[12:17:32] piranha is now offline
[12:17:34] piranha is now gsom gsom
[12:19:56] A2K is now online
[12:20:36] erraen is now online
[12:20:37] erraen is now online
[12:21:22] gigimon is now offline
[12:21:23] gigimon is now online
[12:24:57] A2K is now online
[12:25:36] erraen is now online
[12:25:37] erraen is now online
[12:25:49] slav0nic is now offline
[12:26:46] jolits is now offline
[12:29:58] A2K is now online
[12:30:37] erraen is now online
[12:30:38] erraen is now online
[12:33:09] GrimbleGromble is now away
[12:34:58] A2K is now online
[12:35:38] erraen is now online
[12:35:39] erraen is now online
[12:37:26] jolits is now dnd
[12:37:38] unk2k is now online
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[12:39:59] A2K is now online
[12:40:38] erraen is now online
[12:40:39] erraen is now online
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[12:43:30] GrimbleGromble is now away
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[12:45:39] erraen is now online
[12:45:39] erraen is now online
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[12:50:01] A2K is now online
[12:50:39] erraen is now online
[12:50:40] erraen is now online
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[12:51:32] denplis is now online
[12:53:16] unk2k is now xa
[12:53:30] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[12:55:01] A2K is now online
[12:55:39] erraen is now online
[12:55:40] erraen is now online
[12:56:33] denplis is now online
[12:58:30] GrimbleGromble is now online
[12:58:54] red-agent is now away
[12:59:39] Большой Лис is now online
[13:00:01] A2K is now online
[13:00:40] erraen is now online
[13:00:41] erraen is now online
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[13:05:22] red-agent is now online
[13:05:40] erraen is now online
[13:05:41] erraen is now online
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[13:10:40] erraen is now online
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[13:11:33] denplis is now online
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[13:11:50] A2K is now xa
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[13:13:30] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[13:15:02] A2K is now xa
[13:15:41] erraen is now online
[13:15:42] erraen is now online
[13:16:33] denplis is now online
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[13:20:41] erraen is now online
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[13:25:41] erraen is now online
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[13:26:34] denplis is now online
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[13:30:41] erraen is now online
[13:30:42] erraen is now online
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[13:33:28] piranha is now gsom gsom
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[13:35:31] GrimbleGromble is now online
[13:35:42] erraen is now online
[13:35:43] erraen is now online
[13:36:14] pzskc383 is now online
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[13:40:43] erraen is now online
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[13:45:06] denplis is now online
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[13:50:44] erraen is now online
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[13:55:09] denplis is now online
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[13:55:45] erraen is now online
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[14:00:45] erraen is now online
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[14:05:09] denplis is now online
[14:05:45] erraen is now online
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[14:15:46] erraen is now online
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[14:20:45] erraen is now online
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[14:25:33] slav0nic is now offline
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[14:25:46] erraen is now online
[14:25:47] erraen is now online
[14:25:51] slav0nic is now online
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[14:40:27] piranha is now offline
[14:40:30] piranha is now gsom gsom
[14:40:48] erraen is now online
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[14:41:48] slav0nic is now online
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[14:45:48] erraen is now online
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[14:50:16] piranha is now offline
[14:50:17] piranha is now gsom gsom
[14:50:48] erraen is now online
[14:50:50] erraen is now online
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[14:52:33] огыешсук is now Available
[14:53:32] slav0nic is now offline
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[14:53:48] slav0nic is now online
[14:53:54] slav0nic is now offline
[14:54:11] slav0nic is now online
[14:54:40] Большой Лис is now offline
[14:54:45] Большой Лис is now online
[14:55:14] A2K is now xa
[14:55:15] Большой Лис is now offline
[14:55:29] Большой Лис is now online
[14:55:49] erraen is now online
[14:55:50] erraen is now online
[14:56:41] denplis is now online
[15:00:15] A2K is now xa
[15:00:29] Большой Лис is now away
[15:00:31] Большой Лис is now online
[15:00:38] pzskc383 is now 'cause I never, never sleep alone
[15:00:49] erraen is now online
[15:00:50] erraen is now online
[15:01:41] denplis is now online
[15:05:16] A2K is now xa
[15:05:17] denplis is now online
[15:05:28] Большой Лис is now away
[15:05:49] erraen is now online
[15:05:50] erraen is now online
[15:06:41] denplis is now online
[15:06:45] pzskc383 is now offline
[15:07:53] denplis is now online
[15:07:54] denplis is now online
[15:07:55] denplis is now online
[15:07:56] slav0nic is now offline
[15:08:06] slav0nic is now online
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[15:09:15] sevenov is now offline
[15:10:15] A2K is now xa
[15:10:49] erraen is now online
[15:10:50] erraen is now online
[15:10:56] bergamot: $ lsof > lsof.txt
lsof: can't fork: Cannot allocate memory
$ lsof > lsof.txt
bash: fork: Невозможно выделить память
$ lsof > lsof.txt
bash: /usr/bin/lsof: Невозможно выделить память
[15:11:19] slav0nic is now offline
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[15:11:42] slav0nic is now away
[15:14:27] sevenov is now away
[15:15:16] A2K is now xa
[15:15:30] Большой Лис is now xa
[15:15:50] erraen is now online
[15:15:51] erraen is now online
[15:16:41] denplis is now online
[15:17:16] slav0nic is now offline
[15:17:29] slav0nic is now away
[15:18:00] Большой Лис is now online
[15:18:30] slav0nic is now xa
[15:18:54] cheshirecat is now away
[15:20:16] A2K is now xa
[15:20:20] Большой Лис: bergamot, ну закончилась у тебя память
[15:20:32] bergamot: да я понял
[15:20:45] wiz: $ free -m
bash: cannon allocate memory
[15:20:50] erraen is now online
[15:20:51] erraen is now online
[15:21:05] wiz: *not.. долбаный т9 (ж
[15:21:40] denplis is now online
[15:22:33] slav0nic is now offline
[15:22:42] rfafdls is now думаю
[15:22:47] slav0nic is now xa
[15:22:52] rfafdls is now думаю
[15:22:52] slav0nic is now offline
[15:23:50] cheshirecat is now online
[15:25:17] A2K is now xa
[15:25:51] erraen is now online
[15:25:52] erraen is now online
[15:26:05] sevenov: bergamot, а почему на разных языках?
[15:26:18] slav0nic is now online
[15:26:41] denplis is now online
[15:26:49] slav0nic is now offline
[15:26:50] bergamot: там и разные проги ругаются
[15:27:02] bergamot: кому не хватает - он на своем языке и говорит
[15:27:12] bergamot: команды подрят запускались с интервалом в секунду
[15:27:20] bergamot: # uptime
14:25:57 up 129 days, 46 min, 4 users, load average: 0.14, 0.14, 0.10
[15:27:23] bergamot: ребутнуть чтоли
[15:28:07] Большой Лис: bergamot, free -m
[15:28:13] Большой Лис: чо показывает?
[15:28:18] bergamot: root@km22002-01 /e/nginx# free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1024 456 567 0 0 0
-/+ buffers/cache: 456 567

[15:28:26] Большой Лис: bergamot, сотевую начать с killall -9 apache2
[15:28:27] Большой Лис: :))
[15:28:32] Большой Лис: советую*
[15:28:48] bergamot: # /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
Stopping web server (apache2)...httpd (no pid file) not running
[15:28:52] cheshirecat is now away
[15:29:12] bergamot: nginx юзаем-с
[15:30:16] bergamot: httpsd это что? апачевская дрянь?
[15:30:17] A2K is now xa
[15:30:51] erraen is now online
[15:30:52] erraen is now online
[15:31:29] Большой Лис: bergamot, а какая у тебя там ОС?
[15:31:41] denplis is now online
[15:31:41] bergamot: debian, 4+5
[15:32:31] rfafdls is now away
[15:32:40] rfafdls is now думаю
[15:32:43] Большой Лис: не
[15:32:50] Большой Лис: в дебе апач называется apache
[15:32:57] Большой Лис: и процессы тоже
[15:33:04] bergamot: запускается от юзера psaadm
[15:33:15] Большой Лис: psa
[15:33:22] Большой Лис: plesk что ли установлен?
[15:33:33] Большой Лис: у него собственный апач (и вообще всё)
[15:34:24] cutwater is now away
[15:34:29] bergamot: аааа, о шит
[15:34:38] bergamot: плеск нахер не нужный, я и не помню про него
[15:35:17] A2K is now xa
[15:35:51] erraen is now online
[15:35:52] erraen is now online
[15:36:41] denplis is now online
[15:37:21] cheshirecat is now online
[15:38:57] A2K is now offline
[15:39:37] sevenov: давно бы посмотрел ps -eo pmem,user,command | sort
[15:40:41] A2K is now xa
[15:40:42] A2K is now xa
[15:40:44] A2K is now xa
[15:40:45] A2K is now offline
[15:40:51] erraen is now online
[15:40:52] erraen is now online
[15:40:55] bergamot: пять процессов питона-django-fcgi по 2% каждый
[15:40:56] A2K is now xa
[15:40:57] A2K is now xa
[15:40:59] A2K is now xa
[15:41:08] cutwater is now online
[15:41:42] denplis is now online
[15:42:05] sevenov: bergamot, тебе повезло еще, что не zope xD
[15:42:24] rfafdls is now offline
[15:43:08] jolits is now away
[15:44:08] rfafdls is now думаю
[15:44:18] rfafdls is now думаю
[15:45:47] A2K is now xa
[15:45:52] erraen is now online
[15:45:53] erraen is now online
[15:46:43] denplis is now online
[15:47:20] cheshirecat is now away
[15:50:47] A2K is now xa
[15:50:53] erraen is now online
[15:50:54] erraen is now online
[15:51:43] denplis is now online
[15:52:19] PC is now offline
[15:52:28] _lorien: Объясните значение слова "бздёжь"
[15:52:41] _lorien: или бздежь, я не знаю
[15:53:16] wiz: 1) враньё 2) син. пердёжь
[15:53:34] wiz: 3) необдуманое высказывание
[15:53:36] _lorien: это ты где нашёл?
[15:53:40] wiz: в голове
[15:54:06] _lorien: Окна запотели туманным бздежём - я не понимаю )
[15:54:12] wiz: щ_Щ
[15:54:31] wiz: тут - налётом
[15:54:45] mdn is now online
[15:54:46] mdn is now online
[15:54:48] bergamot: увлечение BSD-системами
[15:54:52] _lorien: каким ещё налётом?
[15:55:01] wiz: тонким покрытием
[15:55:09] wiz: неравномерным
[15:55:37] _lorien: ща найду в онлайне этот абзац, там ваще запутанно )
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[15:56:45] _lorien: Есть одно место, где сливаются реки Марна и Урк, где вода, сползши с плотины, застывает под мостами точно стекло. Там сейчас лежит Илона, и канал забит стеклом и щепками; плачут мимозы, и окна запотели туманным бздежом. Илона -- единственная из миллиона! Пизда и стеклянная задница, в которой вы можете прочесть всю историю средних веков.
[15:57:15] wiz: Щ_щ
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[15:59:18] sevenov: wiz, по поводу пердежа надо к @valerjanka %)
[15:59:25] wiz: дада
[15:59:50] sevenov: _lorien, похоже на машинный перевод о_О
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[16:01:30] _lorien: Скорее там всё чётко. Просто метафоры дикие :)
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[16:01:55] piranha: стеклянная задница?
[16:01:58] piranha: гыгы
[16:03:21] _lorien: Короче, можно как дао дэ дзин читать. Читаешь пару абзацев и пытаешься смысл придать прочитанным буквам :-)
[16:04:06] _lorien: Нуу, там редко такое, в основном понятно всё. Стеклянная задница, да, зогадка.
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[16:06:18] sevenov: _lorien, где раздают эти вещества?
[16:06:29] _lorien: в книжном магазине :)
[16:06:46] _lorien: полкило стоит 500 рублёв :)
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[16:06:59] _lorien: может, весь килограмм там, точно не мерял
[16:07:35] _lorien: ну тут что-то забойное вообще, чувствую буду долко выкуривать этот объём
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[16:50:55] red-agent: о_О
[16:51:17] red-agent: _lorien, пизда и стеклянная задница?
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[16:51:53] _lorien: что ты спрашиваешь, не понимаю :)
[16:52:32] _lorien: http://sexklassniki.com/index.php - ха, прикольно придумали :)
[16:52:43] red-agent: [15:57:03] _lorien: Есть одно место, где сливаются реки Марна и Урк, где вода, сползши с плотины, застывает под мостами точно стекло. Там сейчас лежит Илона, и канал забит стеклом и щепками; плачут мимозы, и окна запотели туманным бздежом. Илона -- единственная из миллиона! Пизда и стеклянная задница, в которой вы можете прочесть всю историю средних веков.
[16:53:15] _lorien: Там про девушку автор вспоминает, описывает её. Что такое стеклянная задница я не понимаю )
[16:53:54] red-agent: Угу, величая её "Пиздой".
[16:53:57] red-agent: Хорошо вспоминает
[16:53:58] red-agent: :D
[16:54:43] _lorien: А разве пизда плохое слово? )
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[16:56:07] red-agent: _lorien, Ну подойди на улице к какой-нибудь девицы, и спроси "Эй, пизда, не подскажешь сколько времени?"
[16:56:13] red-agent: *e
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[17:00:35] _lorien: К каждой девушке свой подход. Судя по описанию, той девушке бы понравился бы такой эпитет :)
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[17:00:58] red-agent: Не знаешь -- не пизди.
[17:01:09] red-agent: Я проверял. Не нравится. Никому.
[17:01:11] red-agent: :D
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[17:06:56] _lorien: Так это не я пизжу, а Генри Миллер, все претензии к нему. Только он, ой, умер :D
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[17:19:10] piranha: стрëмный чувак этот пейсатель
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[17:26:20] mr.oduvan: народ.. чо не соображу.. как сделать переменное кол полей в форме?
[17:26:41] mr.oduvan: просто при создавании класса
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[17:28:14] mr.oduvan: setattr классу - не работает
[17:28:39] mr.oduvan: объкту перед инициализацией тоде
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[19:02:49] bergamot: select count(*) from django_session;
26839
[19:03:49] bergamot: select count(*) from django_session;
4891
[19:03:53] bergamot: после чистки
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[19:46:16] bergamot: уф, переехал с sqlite на postgres на боевом сервере... без проблем, благо на все грабли уже наступил
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[19:50:54] bergamot: вопрос есть, надо хранить сериализованную инфу, 2-3-10 килобайт на объект, объектов - сейчас 5 тысяч, потом будет больше, в разы. сейчас часть находится в базе (json), часть на диске (pickle). Что лучше? Не будет затыков с файловой системой? По функциональности устраивают оба варианта, по бекапам - вроде как раздельное хранение мне видится удобней
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[19:53:18] bergamot: df -i
Файловая система Инодов Испол Своб Исп % смонтирована на
/dev/vzfs 86165532 120845 86044687 1% /
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[21:01:37] xa4a: bergamot: мемкашед для чтения, база с бекапами для записи
[21:01:39] xa4a: имхо
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[21:02:52] bergamot: нет, в память кешировать смысла не вижу
[21:05:05] piranha: ну пыжуй в базу, тогда проблем не будет с файловой системой
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[21:05:16] piranha: заодно не надо думать о локах, етц
[21:05:28] piranha: как вариант - memcachedb, mongodb, tokyo
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[21:05:42] xa4a: можно заюзать какой-нить модный модный key-value store
[21:05:43] piranha: но в принципе mysql как kv хранилище вон френдфид юзает и ничего ;)
[21:05:47] xa4a: можно будет звастаться
[21:05:59] xa4a: х
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[21:06:09] xa4a: для jsonа-то
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[21:06:51] piranha: ну, тут конечно монго - самое оно
[21:06:55] piranha: bergamot: нет желания? :)
[21:07:24] bergamot: желания чего?
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[21:07:41] piranha: хм, ну перечитай выше 10 мессаг
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[21:11:53] bergamot: по порядку. memcachedb - гляну. Слишком мало о нем слышал.
mongodb - это кажись что-то вроде couchdb, присматриваюсь, но для всего проекта. couchdb знаю не подходит для хранения файлов.
[21:12:32] bergamot: сейчас есть постгрес и memcached, еще что-то поднимать - боюсь дохленький vps не выдержит
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[21:16:44] xa4a: bergamot: в couchdb можно файлы хранить
[21:16:44] xa4a: как аттачменты к json-документам
[21:16:44] wiz: фубля
[21:16:44] bergamot: можно, но они кодируются base64... а вот как json - можно попробовать
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[21:16:44] xa4a: base64?
[21:16:44] bergamot: ну в смысле как сам документ, без сериализации
[21:16:44] bergamot: ну вроде, я по памяти говорю
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[21:16:44] xa4a: ну.. там именно аттачмент. файл как файл. кладёшь его, потом, если хочешь, забераешь
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[21:20:45] bergamot: ха, так мне проще самому писать и читать файл на диск
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[21:20:46] xa4a: на диске у файла из метаинформации - только его путь
[21:20:46] xa4a: в коуче - документ весь, считай
[21:20:46] xa4a: ну это не хранилище файлов
[21:20:46] xa4a: а на диске - хранилице
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[21:20:50] bergamot: присмотрюсь к keyvalue подробнее, memcachedb выглядит симпатично
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[21:21:53] cutwater: если че может быть полезно будет еще berkeleydb
[21:21:59] piranha: bergamot: монго не типа кауч
[21:22:00] wiz: memcached ж только до рестарта
[21:22:07] piranha: кауч - это map/reduce
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[21:22:24] piranha: а mongo - это такое json-хранилище с возможностями запрашивать по полям
[21:22:35] piranha: что-то среднее между k/v-store и rdmbs
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[21:22:40] piranha: *rdbms
[21:22:53] xa4a: piranha: по полям?
[21:22:55] bergamot: wiz, memcachedb, а не memcached
[21:23:11] piranha: piranha 33873 0.0 0.1 244940 2112 s001 S+ 1:11PM 0:00.69 bin/mongod --noauth --dbpath /Users/piranha/var/mongodb/db/ run

это оно висит уже довольно давно
[21:23:14] wiz: нашлёпка?
[21:23:24] piranha: как-то висел 2 недели запущенный, начал хавать 3 мега рамы
[21:23:53] piranha: xa4a: ну по полям
[21:24:38] piranha: http://dumpz.org/11353/
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[21:28:15] xa4a: piranha: аха, спс.
[21:28:15] xa4a: кстати 28230 couchdb 20 0 70996 8488 2712 S 0 0.4 40:29.06 /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.7.2/bin/beam.smp -Bd -K true -- -root /usr/li
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[21:28:15] xa4a: это две недели аптайма
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[21:28:22] piranha: хм, а чë 3 числа?
[21:28:35] xa4a: VIRT RES SHHR
[21:28:42] xa4a: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR
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[21:29:01] xa4a: да
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[23:23:47] unk2k: http://muzhchin.net/
[23:24:19] Lolka: это что то про питон, так?)
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[23:25:02] cutwater: нет
[23:25:09] cutwater: это спам
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