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[00:17:13] mr.oduvan: блин.. в джангож было чтото типа create_or_update
[00:17:16] mr.oduvan: не могу найти никак
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[00:18:58] red-agent: в этом нет нужды
[00:19:13] red-agent: джанга сама знает, когда insertить, а когда updateить.
[00:19:28] red-agent: ты просто создаешь обьект и делаешь .save() на нем.
[00:19:54] xa4a: get_or_create было
[00:19:55] mr.oduvan: я тоже так думал
[00:19:57] generatorglukoff: all:
[00:20:03] mr.oduvan: представляеш каковов было мое удивление
[00:20:07] mr.oduvan: когда duplicate key value violates unique constraint "chat_usersounds_user_id_key"

[00:20:13] red-agent: xa4a, это разные вещи.
[00:20:15] generatorglukoff: HttpResponseRedirect обламывающийся на не ascii символах - так и должно быть?
[00:20:50] xa4a: red-agent: мне показалось, что он этого хочет
[00:20:51] mr.oduvan: generatorglukoff - мож в урле русская буковка затисалась?
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[00:21:14] mr.oduvan: xa4a, о присутствующих не говорят "он"
[00:21:20] generatorglukoff: mr.oduvan: неожиданно, целое слово
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[00:21:28] generatorglukoff: mr.oduvan: что делать?
[00:21:46] generatorglukoff: точнее почему на древней версии все работает
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[00:21:55] generatorglukoff: а на транке - нет
[00:22:03] red-agent: mr.oduvan, во что pk проставлен?
[00:22:06] xa4a: /me ткнул пальцем в mr.oduvan
[00:22:44] mr.oduvan: у менЯ есть
[00:22:46] mr.oduvan: unique_together = (('user','type'),)
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[00:23:15] mr.oduvan: generatorglukoff кинь в дампз бактрейс для начала
[00:23:47] generatorglukoff: ща
[00:24:02] generatorglukoff: http://dumpz.org/11361/
[00:24:05] mr.oduvan: xa4a, просто это звучало как общение двух психологов о психопате пациенте
[00:24:21] xa4a: как общение двух телепатов
[00:24:40] red-agent: xa4a, коллега, по-моему наш с вами пациент совершенно потерял связь с реальность...
[00:24:44] red-agent: /me поправил очки
[00:25:03] generatorglukoff: mr.oduvan: user.username содержит кириллицу
[00:25:09] red-agent: mr.oduvan, ты, код вьюхи покажи, где это вываливается.
[00:25:22] generatorglukoff: red-agent: это мне?
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[00:26:07] mr.oduvan: вот ключевой момент
[00:26:09] mr.oduvan: M.UserSounds(user=request.user,type=int(skey[1]), sound=svalue).save()
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[00:26:41] xa4a: я ж говорю get_or_create
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[00:27:06] red-agent: угу, тут нужен get_or_create
[00:27:12] red-agent: а не INSERT vs UPDATE
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[00:28:10] mr.oduvan: red-agent, точно.. логично.. щас попробую
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[00:30:29] mr.oduvan: generatorglukoff глупая идея, мож "е" - русская?
[00:30:46] mr.oduvan: если все юзернеймы латинские
[00:30:53] mr.oduvan: то какие могт быть проблемв?
[00:30:59] slav0nic: generatorglukoff, http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/11522
[00:31:11] generatorglukoff: mr.oduvan: еще раз, мне нужно чтобы оно переадресовывало на /user/какой-то-пользователь
[00:31:18] generatorglukoff: slav0nic: вроде ж фиксед?
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[00:31:36] generatorglukoff: блин
[00:31:40] slav0nic: у меня на экране другая инфа
[00:31:43] slav0nic: )
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[00:31:56] generatorglukoff: эх
[00:31:59] generatorglukoff: таки да
[00:32:02] slav0nic: там не только в этом месте выалзит эт гавно
[00:32:22] generatorglukoff: самое тупое, что раньше все работало
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[00:33:32] generatorglukoff: или это из-за yield ?
[00:34:01] slav0nic: из-за value.encode('us-ascii')

[00:34:12] mr.oduvan: в urllib есть же функция
[00:34:35] mr.oduvan: которая параметры % ескейпит
[00:34:39] generatorglukoff: slav0nic: у меня есть версия от хрен знает какого числа этого года, где вроде все нормально работает
[00:34:43] mr.oduvan: для урлов
[00:34:51] generatorglukoff: slav0nic: смотрю диффы
[00:35:24] generatorglukoff: http://code.djangoproject.com/changeset?new=django%2Ftrunk%2Fdjango%2Fhttp%2F__init__.py%4010712&old=django%2Ftrunk%2Fdjango%2Fhttp%2F__init__.py%408705
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[00:36:06] mr.oduvan: а... параметры ж не подойдут
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[00:37:32] slav0nic: generatorglukoff, ну попробуй не юникод пихать
[00:37:47] generatorglukoff: всмысле?
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[00:37:49] mr.oduvan: так а как там может есть все только енглиш?
[00:37:59] mr.oduvan: u - убари
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[00:38:08] generatorglukoff: mr.oduvan: бесполезно
[00:38:15] slav0nic: и что пишет?
[00:38:52] slav0nic: encode('utf-8') сделай
[00:38:55] slav0nic: мне помогало
[00:39:05] slav0nic: валилось по-моему на тойже в-цие правда в другом месте
[00:39:42] mr.oduvan: u'/user/oduvan/'.encode('us-ascii')
[00:40:04] slav0nic: ну дык у него ж там рус. буквы
[00:40:06] mr.oduvan: я не могу понять, почему это у когото падает
[00:40:14] mr.oduvan: username ?
[00:40:17] slav0nic: ога
[00:40:21] slav0nic: видать
[00:40:45] slav0nic: короче как минимум какая-та херь не из us-ascii)
[00:41:00] mr.oduvan: а вы уверены, что это по стандарту урлов вообще?
[00:41:13] mr.oduvan: пихать русское в не русское?
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[00:42:22] mr.oduvan: generatorglukoff, username - какой?
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[00:43:06] generatorglukoff: mr.oduvan: русск
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[00:44:47] mr.oduvan: у меня есть большое подозрение. что такие урлы нельзя делать
[00:44:54] mr.oduvan: я не прав?
[00:44:56] slav0nic: generatorglukoff, сделай что я сказал
return HttpResponseRedirect('/users/%s' % user.username.encode('utf-8')) так проверь

[00:45:08] slav0nic: mr.oduvan, это придумали американцы)
[00:45:11] generatorglukoff: гм
[00:45:14] slav0nic: которым это не надо)
[00:45:24] slav0nic: или на id замени
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[00:47:09] generatorglukoff: slav0nic: сыпется на твоей строчке
[00:47:51] mr.oduvan: slav0nic, все теперь это "твоя строчка", разгребайся
[00:47:55] slav0nic: ))
[00:47:56] mr.oduvan: :)
[00:48:03] slav0nic: generatorglukoff, ну мозг включай)
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[00:48:20] generatorglukoff: пытаюсь ,_,
[00:49:37] xa4a: я, конечно, всё пропустил, но какое utf-8??
[00:49:42] xa4a: urlencode же
[00:50:02] mr.oduvan: xa4a, я тож сразу подумал.
[00:50:07] mr.oduvan: но оно же для параметров
[00:50:13] mr.oduvan: в урлах разве прокатит?
[00:50:14] xa4a: urlencode
[00:50:17] xa4a: _url_
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[00:50:19] xa4a: о чём-то говорит?
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[00:50:26] mr.oduvan: :)
[00:50:33] xa4a: _url_encode_for_encoding_urls()
[00:51:00] xa4a: ну или там urlquote какой-то
[00:51:06] mr.oduvan: да
[00:51:08] mr.oduvan: енкоде
[00:51:12] mr.oduvan: я туплю ты прав
[00:51:17] slav0nic: xa4a, мы о проблемер с HttpRedirect) а он при получении юникодной строки пытается её енкодить в us-ascii
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[00:51:31] xa4a: я бы так и делал
[00:51:45] xa4a: т.к. ему ведь урл должны передавать
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[00:52:07] xa4a: а не каждая юникодная строка должна быть мочь становиться урлом
[00:52:11] xa4a: э..
[00:52:22] mr.oduvan: urllib.urlencode(u'гг')
[00:52:30] mr.oduvan: TypeError: not a valid non-string sequence or mapping object
[00:53:03] xa4a: Docstring: Encode a sequence of two-element tuples or dictionary into a URL query string.
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[00:53:23] slav0nic: mr.oduvan, доки читай)
[00:53:50] mr.oduvan: slav0nic, я сначало должен ногу сломать
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[00:54:02] xa4a: In [7]: urllib.quote('гг')Out[7]: '%D0%B3%D0%B3'
[00:54:07] xa4a: чониясна?
[00:54:36] mr.oduvan: у меня тут тоже упадл
[00:54:50] xa4a: не, у меня не упадл ещё
[00:54:52] xa4a: пока стоит
[00:55:26] xa4a: я лучше спать.
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[00:55:35] mr.oduvan: только надо предварительно сдеать encode('utf-8')
[00:55:44] xa4a: да
[00:55:49] mr.oduvan: если username передавать
[00:56:21] xa4a: HttpResponseRedirect(user.get_absolute_url())
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[00:56:39] xa4a: а, я же сплю.
[00:56:46] mr.oduvan: а я работаю
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[00:57:22] slav0nic: так тебе и надо
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[00:58:28] mr.oduvan: xa4a, да, так тебе и надо!
[00:59:03] generatorglukoff: --- a/common/views.py Fri Jul 24 21:57:28 2009 +0400
+++ b/common/views.py Mon Aug 10 01:58:26 2009 +0400
@@ -298,7 +298,7 @@ def edit_user_info(request):
'themes' : themes,
'fail' : fail})
else:
- return HttpResponseRedirect('/users/%s' % user.username)
+ return HttpResponseRedirect(request.build_absolute_uri('/users/%s' % user.username))
else: # Анонимный пользователь.
response = HttpResponseRedirect('/users/anonymous')
#аватарки

[00:59:08] generatorglukoff: блин
[00:59:15] generatorglukoff: ну короче работает
[01:00:19] slav0nic: а ваще лучше reverse пихать
[01:00:22] mr.oduvan: что работает?
[01:00:37] generatorglukoff: mr.oduvan: workaround через request.build_absolute_uri
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[01:01:54] slav0nic: generatorglukoff, ваще урлы хардкорить - нехорошо
[01:02:25] generatorglukoff: гм
[01:02:28] slav0nic: и HttpResponseRedirect неактуален после появления redirect_to
[01:02:29] mr.oduvan: так вот зачем эта функция
[01:02:51] mr.oduvan: я про build_absolute_uri
[01:02:55] generatorglukoff: дурная привычка, тяжелое детство
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[01:03:19] slav0nic: да я тож раньше ленился
[01:03:52] mr.oduvan: давайте еще поговорим, о том, когда кто начал делать бекапы :)
[01:03:56] mr.oduvan: лентяи!
[01:04:29] slav0nic: бля забыл)) хотел забекапить сайт, даж в телефоне напоминание повесил
[01:05:18] mr.oduvan: slav0nic, надо в этот чат бота написать, которы будет говорить каждый чат
[01:05:22] mr.oduvan: каждый час.
[01:05:28] mr.oduvan: "кто забыл сделать бекапы??!
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[07:50:20] feedbot: Hey reddit, I wrote a script that displays your newest messages on reddit. Anyone wanna help make it better? (The "notification sound" could use some work") http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/99215/hey_reddit_i_wrote_a_script_that_displays_your/
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[09:46:18] bergamot: Максимальный размер базы данных, поддерживаемый Berkeley DB, составляет 248 байт или 256 Тбайт.
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[09:48:38] bergamot: смотрится такая фраза офигенно, особенно если строка кончается на "248 байт"
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[09:50:03] Большой Лис: мм
[09:50:05] Большой Лис: непонял
[09:50:11] Большой Лис: как это "248 байт или 256 Тбайт"
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[10:05:46] Lolka: python.org лежит по прежнему (
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[10:06:03] Lolka: а нет... отвечает, только как то совсем неуверенно
[10:06:08] Lolka: что там у них такое происходит(
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[10:54:55] bergamot: wget python.su
--2009-08-10 14:54:40-- http://python.su/
Распознаётся python.su... 65.254.53.57
Устанавливается соединение с python.su|65.254.53.57|:80... соединение установлено.
Запрос HTTP послан, ожидается ответ... 503 Service Not Available
2009-08-10 14:54:41 ОШИБКА 503: Service Not Available.
[10:55:46] _lorien: у меня открывается
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[10:57:12] bergamot: о, у меня сейчсас тоже
[10:57:37] piranha: мля, дизайн сотонинский как был, так и остался
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[10:59:40] bergamot: начал юзать беркли дб - то что мне надо, не знаю использовать ли интерфейс memcachedb
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[11:00:00] cutwater: bergamot, о ты таки на беркли подсел
[11:00:23] cutwater: расскажешь потом как оно? я просто на питоне ее не использовал (да и вообще почти не приходилось с ней работать)
[11:00:28] bergamot: да пока тестовые данные скинул... ничетак
[11:01:22] bergamot: http://docs.python.org/library/bsddb.html - два десятка функций не наберется, короче юзать - как два пальца
[11:01:52] bergamot: да все понятно из примера
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[11:08:52] plus: Все привет. Такой у меня вопрос. Метод urllib.urlretrieve единственный способ скачать файл в питоне? ато иногда таймаут вываливается.
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[11:10:47] Lolka: ммм, в других способах, вероятно, тоже вывалится таймаут)
[11:11:43] plus: wget тотже файл качает без вопросов
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[11:15:07] Lolka: тогда можно wget вызывать subprocess'ом и смотреть exit код для верности
[11:15:10] Lolka: но это не тру вей)
[11:15:48] lievil: bergamot, а bdb быстрый?
[11:15:51] lievil: почему не sqlite?
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[11:16:37] cutwater: lievil, bdb не реляционная в
[11:16:46] cutwater: а key-value
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[11:17:01] cutwater: lievil, можно сказать словарь сохраненный на диске ))
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[11:18:14] _lorien: plus, socket.setdefaulttimeout - потом качай файл. Через urllib.urlopen().read() тоже можно, просто надо сбросить полученный объём данных в файл потом
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[11:20:48] slav0nic: bergamot, dsbd намного круче чем то что описано в доках) там далеко не всё
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[11:25:17] piranha: lievil: bsddb - это на уровень ниже склайта. У того же мускуля есть бекенд, юзающий bsddb
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[11:33:31] lievil: а cdb что тогда?
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[11:34:48] slav0nic: http://cr.yp.to/cdb/cdb.txt
[11:36:26] lievil: ну тоже ведь словарь
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[11:46:26] wonderfulll: как решается проблема сокетов при использование лайти + фаст_цги?
[11:46:59] erraen is now online
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[11:47:35] Большой Лис: wonderfulll, ставится апач+mod_wsgi, а лайти/нгинкс впереди проксирует, или лайти/нгинкс проксирует на cherrypy wsgi демон (что более экономично для памяти)
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[11:48:14] wonderfulll: специфика такая что проксировать будет апач
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[11:49:32] wonderfulll: "cherrypy wsgi демон" можно сцылку на какую статью по на стройке
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[11:50:09] Большой Лис: конечно
[11:50:13] Большой Лис: сколько влезет ссылок
[11:50:15] Большой Лис: http://www.google.com/search?q=cherrypy+django+wsgi
[11:50:17] Большой Лис: тут
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[11:50:19] Большой Лис: :)
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[11:50:20] feedbot: Senior Software Engineer - YouRenew.com http://djangogigs.com/gigs/678/
[11:50:22] wonderfulll: :))
[11:50:23] Большой Лис: у тебя ведь джанго?
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[11:50:26] wonderfulll: да
[11:50:37] Большой Лис: ну от, значит тебе по адресу
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[11:51:35] wonderfulll: а Лайти+фаст_сги более прожорлив чем Черри?
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[11:52:19] piranha: фастцги убог
[11:52:25] piranha: сама либа для питона кончаная
[11:52:51] wonderfulll: wsgi рулит? :)
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[11:53:32] Большой Лис: мега
[11:54:17] wonderfulll: буду пробывать спс
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[12:13:50] mr.oduvan: piranha, а в чем конченость?
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[12:15:00] piranha: mr.oduvan: жрëт память и иногда помирает
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[12:15:42] mr.oduvan: piranha, так а что вы юзаете вместо фаста? мод?
[12:15:50] Большой Лис: wsgi
[12:15:56] piranha: wsgi/cherrypy
[12:16:06] piranha: когда как
[12:16:17] Большой Лис: c mod_wsgi апачёвым возни меньше
[12:16:30] piranha: да, а с черрипаем - памяти
[12:16:39] piranha: так что когда что важно, так и юзаем ;)
[12:16:56] mr.oduvan: а для джанго это прикручивается?
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[12:17:17] piranha: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/cpserver/
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[12:19:16] mr.oduvan: надо будет как нить попробовать.
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[12:20:04] mr.oduvan: но вот в джанго при создание фаст. ты выбираеш, сколько запросов может принят один процесс.
[12:20:07] mr.oduvan: потом отваливается
[12:20:13] mr.oduvan: м переподнимается
[12:21:04] cutwater: в mod_wsgi тоже
[12:21:06] piranha: короче, у меня с ним негативный опыт тока был
[12:21:11] piranha: за это я его не люблю
[12:21:16] piranha: как и лайти, по той же причине
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[12:21:36] piranha: у лайти внутри вместо кода - месиво, и баги, которые я им понаходил, они не фиксят уже третий год
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[12:21:58] mr.oduvan: piranha, вместо него nginx?
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[12:22:25] piranha: угу
[12:22:50] mr.oduvan: я просто пока все только на лайти поднимаю... нашел когда багу у них с прокси модулем и все.
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[12:23:20] mr.oduvan: и за этого, собственно, и перепрыгнул разок на nginx
[12:23:27] piranha: он обрабатывает запросы не по рфц
[12:23:37] piranha: если передать
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host shit.com
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[12:23:47] piranha: то запрос попадëт не в shit.com, а в дефолтный хост
[12:23:50] piranha: он тупо не видит этого
[12:24:07] piranha: для меня это в своë время было show-stopper'ом :)
[12:24:39] mr.oduvan: "show-stopper" %)
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[12:25:45] Большой Лис: а как мило лайти работает с vhost-ами
[12:25:47] mr.oduvan: ну ок. мож вы и правы. буду пробовать.
[12:25:47] Большой Лис: это ваще
[12:25:48] Большой Лис: финиш
[12:26:19] Большой Лис: мудацкая херня с герами
[12:26:20] mr.oduvan: вобщем не любят тут беднягу лайти :)
[12:26:26] Большой Лис: эта тупость перебирает их по очереди
[12:26:27] mr.oduvan: "герами"?
[12:26:28] Большой Лис: пока не найдёт нужный
[12:26:43] Большой Лис: ээ
[12:26:51] Большой Лис: регами
[12:26:55] Большой Лис: :D
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[12:27:11] mr.oduvan: ?? а как надо?
[12:27:20] Большой Лис: hash table? ЖЕ
[12:27:22] Большой Лис: !!!
[12:27:37] piranha: да короче, кгам
[12:27:41] Большой Лис: как это делает, кстати сказать, nginx
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[12:29:31] mr.oduvan: регами - это вы имеете ввиду - когда приходит запрос, то он, к примеру, ищет правило для него, переберая все условия. я вообще не понимаю, как можно по другому?
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[12:29:53] Большой Лис: mr.oduvan, :D
[12:29:59] Большой Лис: строишь hash table
[12:30:00] Большой Лис: заранее
[12:30:11] Большой Лис: их всех vhost-ов
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[12:30:45] piranha: mr.oduvan: перебирая - это тупейший вариант
[12:30:58] mr.oduvan: hash table - это dict?
[12:31:13] piranha: dict - это hast table
[12:31:19] piranha: строго говоря
[12:31:33] cutwater: Большой Лис, ну а если хост задается регекспом тут же уже не построишь
[12:31:41] piranha: хост задаëтся регекспом?
[12:31:47] mr.oduvan: да
[12:31:53] piranha: шото вы хотите адское
[12:31:55] mr.oduvan: там хост можно регекспом задавать
[12:31:58] piranha: а ну приведите мне юзкейс
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[12:32:09] piranha: только реальный, а не из головы - такое я и сам выдумать могу
[12:32:13] mr.oduvan: (\w+).lyabah.com
[12:32:23] mr.oduvan: для них всех отключить кеширование
[12:32:30] piranha: *.lyabah.com
[12:32:34] piranha: и всë
[12:32:37] piranha: нахер тут регексп?
[12:32:50] mr.oduvan: ?
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[12:33:12] mr.oduvan: $HTTP["host"] == '*.lyabah.com' ?
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[12:33:41] piranha: http://sysoev.ru/nginx/
[12:33:47] mr.oduvan: piranha, или я чегото не понимаю
[12:34:08] cutwater: (\w+).lyabah.com заменить на *.lyabah.com
[12:34:12] piranha: я не понимаю, наверное - зачем здесь регексп?
[12:34:33] cutwater: piranha, кстати мне интересно как такое искать через хештаблицу
[12:34:42] cutwater: в смысле *.blabla.com
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[12:35:04] piranha: у меня есть мысль, что они ищут через точки по вложенным таблицам
[12:35:24] piranha: т.е. ['com']['blabla'], а там уже пытаешься найти точное совпадение
[12:35:27] piranha: и звëзду
[12:35:57] cutwater: понятно
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[12:36:08] mr.oduvan: мне нет
[12:36:38] mr.oduvan: как *.blabla.com будет через дикты юзаться?
[12:36:52] piranha: абстрагируйся
[12:36:54] piranha: там не питон ;)
[12:36:57] Большой Лис: помещатся в таблицу в развернутов миде
[12:37:02] Большой Лис: виде
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[12:37:02] mr.oduvan: а
[12:37:04] mr.oduvan: все
[12:37:06] mr.oduvan: понял
[12:37:24] mr.oduvan: piranha, в лайти не питон?
[12:37:26] piranha: mr.oduvan: http://sysoev.ru/nginx/docs/virtual_hosts.html
[12:37:30] piranha: mr.oduvan: нигде не питон
[12:37:31] piranha: там си
[12:37:49] piranha: http://sysoev.ru/nginx/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html#server
[12:37:56] piranha: а, listn
[12:38:01] piranha: http://sysoev.ru/nginx/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html#listen
[12:38:04] piranha: вот, почитай
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[12:38:25] mr.oduvan: уже
[12:38:38] cutwater: server_name точней
[12:38:40] mr.oduvan: спасибо за консультацию
[12:39:03] cutwater: piranha, так это вы говорили о lighttpd что его не любят?
[12:39:09] cutwater: а то я уже думал на него переходить
[12:39:12] piranha: хз, я его не люблю
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[12:39:21] piranha: славоник вон любит
[12:39:27] mr.oduvan: cutwater, с апача?
[12:39:30] piranha: slav0nic: любишь тот кусок ...? ;)
[12:39:40] Большой Лис: :D
[12:39:42] cutwater: щас nginx + apache + mod_wsgi
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[12:39:52] cutwater: хочу тогда сделать nginx + cherrypy
[12:39:59] piranha: cutwater: если памяти хватает, то менее геморного варианта не будет
[12:40:04] slav0nic: работает и куй с ним, не вижу смысла переходить на нгинкс)
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[12:40:15] piranha: cutwater: видишь? :-)))
[12:40:25] cutwater: piranha, какого именно варианта 1ого или второго?
[12:40:28] piranha: 1
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[12:40:37] cutwater: ну пока хватает
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[12:40:42] piranha: ну тогда и забей
[12:40:50] cutwater: ок
[12:40:56] piranha: если хочется поиграться с сетапом - лучше сделай собственный пакет из апача %)
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[12:44:08] cutwater: у меня глупый вопрос. есть форма. вообще принято делать один view на добавление и редактирование или два отдельно?
[12:44:14] cutwater: в принципе все тривиально
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[13:00:29] xa4a: что это значит?
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[13:03:32] xa4a: и в конце там ещё Budget: £24,500
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[13:49:16] bahus: хотелось бы найти человека у которого он сейчас стоит и используется)
[13:49:30] Lolka: а НетБинс все еще жив?)
[13:49:33] Lolka: я когда то пользовался
[13:49:42] bahus: жив жив и вроде даже развивается еще)
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[14:19:05] slav0nic: никто в кверисет свой метод не пихал?
с http://www.djangosnippets.org/snippets/734/ админка не пашет
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[14:20:11] slav0nic: проехали, затупил
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[14:23:13] bergamot: если юзать просто db = bsddb.btopen('bsddb.db'), запись, sync(), в нескольких потоках/процессах проблем не будет? или надо что-то более продвинутое по управлению беркли базой?
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[14:27:23] red-agent: tilarids,
[14:27:32] tilarids: red-agent, ?
[14:27:38] red-agent: Помнится у тебя были траблы с tfaker на 2.6?
[14:27:45] red-agent: Я вчера ночью пофиксил.
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[14:54:59] bergamot: а редис юзал кто на питоне?
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[14:57:24] piranha: я буквально месяц назад в салате юзал
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[15:42:58] _lorien: я сегодня сельдерей юзал в крепе :-)
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[15:44:45] _lorien: > Приготовление крепов, а именно так называют те самые французские блины, настолько тонкие, что их почти невозможно подбросить, - это настоящее искусство.
тока по ходу я всё ж блины ел, а не крепы :D
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[15:46:24] mishok13: настолько тонкие что, тёплый ламповый звук и смачное реверберация золотых проводов
[15:46:34] mishok13: ел я ваши крепы -- блины блинами
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[15:47:16] piranha: и при этом, я уверен, лучом пловца поранился?
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[15:47:48] _lorien: o_O
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[15:48:22] mishok13: что такое луч пловца?
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[15:50:18] feedbot: The mystery of immortal, migrating sockets and Python's getstatusoutput. http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/99709/the_mystery_of_immortal_migrating_sockets_and/
[15:50:19] piranha: Для человека эта акула не представляет опасности. Человек может лишь пораниться колючками или лучами пловцов во время неосторожного перебирание улова.

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[15:50:23] piranha: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD
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[15:50:50] piranha: mishok13: це переклад "промені плавців" з української ;)
[15:51:50] mishok13: жесть какая-то
[15:52:00] piranha: адски круто, по-моему
[15:52:10] piranha: Зубы у акул вырастают на смену искоренится
[15:52:12] piranha: вот это еще тема
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[15:52:27] piranha: тело акул может легко розтинать воду
[15:52:28] piranha: ахахаха
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[15:52:36] piranha: лучи пловца замочат всех
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[15:53:03] piranha: Держится в придонном слоях воды
[15:53:04] piranha: :Д
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[15:53:21] mishok13: обостренно рила
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[15:53:30] mishok13: жыжыжыжыжыжжжыжжжыжжыжыжы
[15:53:40] piranha: Пловцы также циняться как пищевой продукт
[15:53:43] mishok13: полумесяцем загинаеться обратно в постоянном оскал
[15:53:44] piranha: пловцы сцукооооооооо
[15:54:37] mishok13: Здесь они питаются хамсу и ставрида
[15:54:37] xa4a: Ну чО> кОмУ_То нЕ БеЗрАзЛиЧнО
[15:54:40] xa4a: http://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD&diff=17540368&oldid=17470427
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[15:55:01] xa4a: фак. капс по синержи
[15:55:03] piranha: хамсу и ставрида
[15:55:06] piranha: буаага
[15:55:30] piranha: Размеры Катран не превышают 150 см
[15:55:37] piranha: как будто Дюна2 перевода 95 года
[15:55:38] piranha: :))))
[15:55:51] mishok13: Првет я з Блгари.
[15:55:51] piranha: Этот Харконнен есть угрожать нам!
[15:56:08] mishok13: Здесь они питаются преимущественно шпрота и мерлангом
[15:56:13] огыешсук: а с картами кто в джанге работал? как проще всего добавить гугломапу в админку и на сайт (точки с описанием и фотками, возможно полигоны с тем же)?
[15:56:19] piranha: geodjango
[15:56:20] mishok13: в придонном слоях воды
[15:56:23] piranha: дада
[15:56:28] piranha: пловцы
[15:56:35] piranha: катранцы-пловцы-молодцы
[15:56:44] огыешсук: piranha: геоджанга выглядит как оверкилл, хочется чего простого для начала
[15:57:00] piranha: огыешсук: хз, она оказалось простой для меня %)
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[15:57:15] piranha is now Питается хамсу и ставрида
[15:57:23] огыешсук: piranha: пробовал? можешь показать?
[15:57:29] mishok13: geodjango это самое простое что ты найдешь
[15:57:39] piranha: не, делал на заказ проект внутренний для чуваков
[15:57:47] огыешсук: я много чего уже нашел, но оно обычно на транке уже не пашет
[15:58:05] Большой Лис: хехе
[15:58:07] piranha: ну хз, геоджанга у меня запустилась на шару, если не считать возни с либами типа постгиса и чо-там-возле-него
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[15:59:17] piranha: хамсу и ставида мне! Буду ранить лучом пловца!
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[16:00:18] xa4a: piranha: открыл рсс баша, а там первым сообщением: "В детстве, когда она была у своей бабушке на даче"
[16:00:20] xa4a: они везде
[16:01:55] piranha: =)))
[16:01:58] piranha: бабушке
[16:02:04] piranha: риальне пыщь пыщь
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[16:02:27] _lorien: у меня тож всё запустилось даже на мускуле в геоджанге )
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[16:03:09] огыешсук: а можно пример кода простого проекта? хочется оценить предстоящие трудозатраты
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[16:03:24] _lorien: огыешсук, а что тебе надо? может тебе и не нужна геоджанга?)
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[16:04:09] огыешсук: _lorien: вот я и думаю -- нужна ли. я выше писал чего хочется: точки с описанием и фотками поверх гугломапа, возможно полигоны с тем же
[16:04:20] _lorien: там удобно то, что для точек, для фигу есть готовые ORM типы, со всем этим удобно работать, а если у тебя просто точки показывать на карте, можно и без оверкилла этого обойтись
[16:04:46] _lorien: нуу, полигоны... для полигонов таки удобно уже геоджангу заюзать имхо
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[16:05:13] огыешсук: в админку оно само красиво впишется?
[16:05:25] _lorien: хз )
[16:05:40] _lorien: вон вроде славоник тоже мутил чё-то )
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[16:26:37] slav0nic: как threadedcomments правильно юзать для зареганых юзеров?
[16:26:57] огыешсук: а тяжко геоджангу на рабочий проект натянуть? тут вроде простым syncdb не обойтись будет
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[16:27:18] slav0nic: нео
[16:27:24] slav0nic: в доке всё написано
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[16:29:16] GrimbleGromble: никто случайно не встречал проектов с открытым исходным кодом где профайл сделан с наследованием от User'а? трудности возникли, гугл все ссылки выдает на django-profile/django-profiles :\
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[16:30:57] xa4a: http://google.com/codesearch?q=class+userprofile%28User%29
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[16:31:01] xa4a: не встречал
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[16:35:03] GrimbleGromble: может тогда кто-нибудь знает, как каждый раз не сохранять username, password, is_active и т.д?
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[16:35:20] Lolka: всмысле?
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[16:36:18] Lolka: если у тебя ModelForm так в Meta: fields = [] только тебе нужные поля, нет?
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[17:12:48] mr.oduvan: народ. ктото когда нить сталкивался с проблемой, когда в админке аплоадиш файл с формы. но пишет "отправленный файл пуст"
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[17:13:42] mr.oduvan: хотя ты отправляеш не пустой
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[17:13:47] mr.oduvan: а просто не большой файл
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[17:14:48] mr.oduvan: все..
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[17:14:52] mr.oduvan: забейте
[17:14:58] mr.oduvan: это я опять протупил
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[17:19:16] _lorien: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/fourchette/66674/#comment_1877552
:D
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[19:09:10] _lorien: slav0nic, django-mptt :)
[19:09:35] slav0nic: не, просто
[19:09:42] slav0nic: *простые тредед
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[19:11:16] _lorien: не знаю, шо ты имел в виду, я же имел в виду что с помощью django-mptt легко сделать тредовые камменты )
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[19:42:45] mr.oduvan: народ...
[19:42:49] mr.oduvan: нужен умный совет
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[19:43:05] mr.oduvan: я использую с urllib2 прокси
[19:43:31] mr.oduvan: в винде тупо зависает
[19:43:44] mr.oduvan: есть идеи, что можно попробовать?
[19:44:57] Большой Лис: дебагер запусти
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[19:55:39] generatorglukoff: какие есть варианты распарсить html при условии что html может быть с ошибками?
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[19:59:59] mr.oduvan: generatorglukoff, lxml
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[20:00:17] mr.oduvan: from lxml import html
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[20:00:37] mr.oduvan: Большой Лис, что даст дебагер?
[20:00:57] Большой Лис: о_О
[20:01:03] Большой Лис: о_О_о
[20:01:19] Большой Лис: если не понятно сходу что он даст, то скорее всего ничего не даст
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[20:01:49] mr.oduvan: Большой Лис ой ну ладно тебе
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[20:02:05] mr.oduvan: да и дебагером я в питоне пользуюсь только через import pdb
[20:02:09] red-agent: mr.oduvan, дебагером можна оттрейсить колл-стек и определить где зависает.
[20:02:18] red-agent: и так, правда понятно, что на каком-то сисколле, как пить дать
[20:02:40] mr.oduvan: urllib2.open
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[20:03:09] red-agent: Мда, какая глубина мысли...
[20:03:21] Большой Лис: :D
[20:03:26] mr.oduvan: ^)
[20:03:28] mr.oduvan: :)
[20:03:34] red-agent: Большой Лис, прва.
[20:03:36] red-agent: *прав.
[20:03:46] red-agent: Дебаггер _тебе_ скорее всего ничего не даст.
[20:03:57] Большой Лис: mr.oduvan, попробуй strace запусти
[20:03:58] mr.oduvan: а вы хотели, чтоб я дебагером вглую урллиба забрался и там определил
[20:03:59] Большой Лис: на процесс
[20:04:06] Большой Лис: глянь на чём он глохнет
[20:04:11] red-agent: Большой Лис, в окнах нету strace
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[20:04:20] Большой Лис: аа...он под окнами
[20:04:36] red-agent: [19:45:52] mr.oduvan: в винде тупо зависает
[20:04:38] Большой Лис: тогда только pdb
[20:04:43] Большой Лис: и пошагово смотреть
[20:04:49] mr.oduvan: в линухе летает
[20:04:52] red-agent: yup.
[20:04:54] Большой Лис: на чём провиснет
[20:04:56] mr.oduvan: в винде виснит
[20:05:03] Большой Лис: /me slaps mr.oduvan
[20:05:09] red-agent: Ну на сисколле каком-то скорее всего.
[20:05:10] Большой Лис: mr.oduvan, pdb в руки
[20:05:16] Большой Лис: и фпирёт
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[20:05:53] mr.oduvan: не вопрос.
[20:05:55] Большой Лис: щаз какая нибудь фигня получится в конце, типо фаервол пакеты дропает, или ДНС не работает
[20:06:01] mr.oduvan: расскажите, что мне pdb искать?
[20:06:04] Большой Лис: или ещё какая нибудь банальщина
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[20:06:30] mr.oduvan: заходить в глубь urllib2?
[20:06:39] mr.oduvan: в опен?
[20:06:43] mr.oduvan: что там искать?
[20:07:10] Большой Лис: mr.oduvan, место, где именно зависает
[20:07:18] mr.oduvan: в урллибе?
[20:07:22] Большой Лис: угу
[20:07:29] mr.oduvan: понятно.
[20:07:44] mr.oduvan: ладно... а вообще никто с подобной побставой не сталкивался?
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[20:08:10] Большой Лис: mr.oduvan, а без прокси работает?
[20:08:16] mr.oduvan: да
[20:08:29] mr.oduvan: в окнах
[20:08:29] Большой Лис: ну вот и думай в этом направлении :)
[20:08:33] mr.oduvan: без проблем
[20:08:47] Большой Лис: а сам проси работает?
[20:08:50] Большой Лис: если не из питона
[20:08:51] mr.oduvan: Большой Лис, :))
[20:09:03] mr.oduvan: работает
[20:09:07] Большой Лис: ну вопщем ищи, это не нормальное поведение
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[20:09:25] mr.oduvan: я пробовал еще в потоках запрос делать..
[20:09:49] mr.oduvan: типа один делает запрос.. а второй считает...
[20:10:03] mr.oduvan: ладно..
[20:10:06] mr.oduvan: пойжу я .
[20:10:09] mr.oduvan: спасибо
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[20:11:04] Большой Лис: Revision 14478: /freeswitch
[20:11:13] Большой Лис: кул
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[20:24:30] _lorien: !g code.djangoproject.com 14478
[20:24:41] _lorien: Ж-/
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[20:26:59] bergamot: !g site:code.djangoproject.com 14478
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[20:44:01] GrimbleGromble: еще один вопрос по джанге, почему атрибуты файлового объекта file.url и file.path выдают один и тот же урл, вроде же в доке написано File.url -- The URL where the file can be retrieved. This is often useful in templates . File.path --The absolute path to the file’s location on a local filesystem. Я что то не так понимаю?
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[20:48:43] _lorien: GrimbleGromble, что они выдают? Что у тебя в settings.MEDIA_URL и settings.MEDIA_ROOT? ЧТо утебя в upload_to параметре этого файлового поля?
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[20:50:50] GrimbleGromble: у обоих абсолютный путь на фс, upload_to - функция, в media_url и media_root как у всех вроде
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[21:01:24] kost-bebix: Всем привет. Кто тут forum.python.su пилит?
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[22:50:19] feedbot: Compiling Python Packages into Assemblies http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/99big/compiling_python_packages_into_assemblies/
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[22:51:10] xa4a: это только я не вижу, как в пикасе юзеру сообщение послать, или таки нельзя?
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