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[00:47:15] generatorglukoff: существует ли _одна_ функция, которая качает с сайта страницу и делает urlencode входных параметров?
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[00:47:36] generatorglukoff: ибо 5 строчек очень реюзабельного кода
[00:47:49] generatorglukoff: шотката нету?
[00:48:21] xa4a: "качает с сайта страницу и делает urlencode входных параметров" -- чи-иво?
[00:48:53] generatorglukoff: xa4a: http://dumpz.org/11392/
[00:49:18] xa4a: да, всё так
[00:49:23] generatorglukoff: вместо этого хотелось бы somelib.sdelat_zaebis(url, params, headers)
[00:49:38] klichuk: xD
[00:49:51] generatorglukoff: эх
[00:49:59] klichuk: можешь написать свою фцию жэ
[00:50:03] cutwater: generatorglukoff, напиши свою
[00:50:06] xa4a: ну у тебя sdelat_zaebis(url, urlencode(params), headers)
[00:50:10] xa4a: на один вызов больше
[00:50:44] xa4a: тоесть urlopen(url, urlencode(params), headers)
[00:50:49] xa4a: ну или как там
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[00:51:49] generatorglukoff: cutwater: не вопрос, просто это както неправильно
[00:51:57] cutwater: о_О
[00:52:02] cutwater: вай неправильно
[00:52:31] generatorglukoff: cutwater: потому что нужен шоткат
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[00:52:49] xa4a: generatorglukoff: шоткат вырезающий абстракцию data?
[00:53:03] xa4a: в которую ты можешь пихать не только form-urlencoded, кстати
[00:53:44] generatorglukoff: xa4a: не вижу ничего плохого, как для шотката
[00:54:22] xa4a: import this
[00:54:24] xa4a: => Explicit is better than implicit.
[00:54:56] xa4a: подробный
[00:55:09] generatorglukoff: ,_,
[00:55:17] generatorglukoff: во мне умер перловщик?
[00:55:28] xa4a: вощем, если тебе надо - делай)
[00:55:37] xa4a: но ожидать такого в стдлибе не приходится
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[00:59:42] Typhon: http://govnokod.ru/1483
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[00:59:58] gigimon: это
[01:00:00] gigimon: народ
[01:00:10] gigimon: никто на почту не получал письмо от Lin Yang <lin.yang@gofamarketing.com>
[01:00:26] xa4a: какое жестокое самообрезание
[01:00:34] gigimon: с просьбйо найти джанго разраба? на 15 штук за 10 недель ?
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[01:00:57] gigimon: I have seen you are active in the python community. Do you know any small team of Python Django developers who might be able to dedicate themselves to a Django project?

We are looking to develop an HR social network. Actually, the site has already been developed to a large extent in Django but some important functions are not working. We are now willing to spend up to $15,000 to get the product developed 100% within 10 weeks.

We might also be interested in full time employees but would require that these people work in our office in Madrid, Spain.
[01:01:02] gigimon: вот так письмо выглядит
[01:01:06] gigimon: никто не хочет?
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[01:08:21] xa4a: мне на мальте предложение больше понравилось
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[01:12:41] kost-bebix: $15000 на 2,5 месяца?
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[01:17:01] xa4a: где-то был он-лайн оценщик времени на выполнение проекта
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[01:18:17] xa4a: http://www.cznp.com/6to8weeks/index.php
[01:19:10] gigimon: вообещ просто интересно, где он про меня нашел
[01:19:30] gigimon: отписал ему, чтоб искал на pyjob и спросил откуда нашел мои контакты
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[01:24:11] gigimon: xa4a: нету меня там
[01:24:27] xa4a: ну вбей имейл в гугл :)
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[01:51:57] generatorglukoff: млин
[01:52:12] generatorglukoff: urllib выкидывает куки при редиректе
[01:52:35] generatorglukoff: а HTTPResponse их скидывает в одну строковую кучу
[01:52:37] generatorglukoff: =(
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[01:55:56] kost-bebix: generatorglukoff: не оно? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/366037/tracking-redirects-and-cookies-with-python
[01:56:07] generatorglukoff: kost-bebix: походу
[01:56:37] generatorglukoff: налепили блин же
[01:56:42] kost-bebix: )
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[01:58:20] xa4a: cookielib?
[01:58:58] xa4a: /me досмотрел сериал и несказанно этому рад
[01:59:56] generatorglukoff: xa4a: cookielib нескручивается с httplib
[02:00:07] generatorglukoff: оно заточено на urllib{,2}
[02:00:22] xa4a: а httplib нужен?
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[02:01:04] generatorglukoff: xa4a: нет
[02:01:21] generatorglukoff: просто urllib2.urlopen поимело плохое свойство
[02:01:33] generatorglukoff: а именно выкинуть куки на редиректе
[02:01:37] generatorglukoff: который по 302
[02:01:47] xa4a: а с cookielib?
[02:02:04] generatorglukoff: всмысле?
[02:02:10] xa4a: хм..
[02:02:17] xa4a: /me пошёл смотреть, чем занимается cookielib
[02:03:03] generatorglukoff: хранением куков
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[02:03:32] xa4a: хм, да..
[02:03:38] xa4a: generatorglukoff: а редирект на тот же домен идёт?
[02:03:44] generatorglukoff: да
[02:04:11] xa4a: ну хорошо.. cookielib, хоть по названию и близко, но не подошло. может тогда попробовать свой опенер сделать?
[02:04:32] xa4a: (тоже близко. опенер- открыватель страниц, наверна можно ему сохранялку кук приделать)
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[02:05:27] generatorglukoff: повидимому
[02:05:32] xa4a: вон какой-то class urllib2.HTTPRedirectHandler¶
[02:05:40] xa4a: унаследуй его и передай себе куки
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[02:06:05] generatorglukoff: а еще есть urllib2.HTTPCookieProcessor
[02:06:07] generatorglukoff: ,_,
[02:06:20] generatorglukoff: нужно раскурить
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[02:15:24] generatorglukoff: ебануццо
[02:15:29] generatorglukoff: но работает
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[02:16:11] generatorglukoff: нужно создать CookieJar
[02:16:21] generatorglukoff: засунуть в HTTPCookieProcessor
[02:16:27] generatorglukoff: создать opener
[02:16:35] generatorglukoff: и дергать опенер
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[08:30:36] _lorien: http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/idioteka/2009/08/10/
вот это да :D
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[11:25:20] slav0nic: django-queue-service
юзал кто? интересуют впечатления)
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[11:58:24] mishok13: хуя, сорсфорж использует TG
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[12:14:05] sevenov_: mishok13, пруфлинк есть? )
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[12:14:28] xa4a: !g sourceforge tg
[12:14:36] xa4a: !g sourceforge turbogears
[12:14:42] mishok13: http://compoundthinking.com/blog/index.php/2009/07/16/turbogears-on-sourceforge/
[12:14:49] xa4a: !g sourceforge turbogears -inurl:http://sourceforge.net/projects/
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[12:17:14] sevenov_: xa4a, нужно Sourceforge on TurboGears :)
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[12:21:19] mishok13: sevenov_, статью прочитал?
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[12:22:36] sevenov_: mishok13, а, хм. Первого предложения достаточно :)
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[12:23:41] sevenov_: Да еще и MongoDB? o_O
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[12:26:49] A2K: наверное я не там спрашиваю, но не расскажет ли мне кто-нибудь как правильно получить один кадр с середины видео при помощи ffmpeg? :)
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[12:31:01] xa4a: A2K: mplayer video.mpg&; sleep $timeout; scrot /tmp/scr.png
[12:31:09] sevenov_: !п ffmpeg extract frame
[12:31:13] sevenov_: !g ffmpeg extract frame
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[12:31:42] xa4a: ну дык!
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[12:32:15] A2K: sevenov_, ха-ха. Мне через libavcodec надо :(
[12:32:21] A2K: запускать бинарник - не Ъ
[12:32:52] sevenov_: A2K, т.е. не юзая сам ffmpeg?
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[12:33:27] A2K: ну как, libavcodec - часть ffmpeg
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[12:34:01] sevenov_: A2K, я в курсе, но бинарник ты не хочешь, а хочешь просто заюзать либу? Ну oss же, посмотри, как сделано
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[12:34:31] A2K: там же всё на с
[12:34:34] A2K: с - ужасный язык
[12:34:52] sevenov_: A2K, это ты ужасен.
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[12:35:02] _lorien: )
[12:35:08] A2K: ты просто не видел исходники ffmpeg
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[12:35:56] sevenov_: A2K, это не аргумент, чтобы обсирать си. Плюсы да, УГ.
[12:36:03] A2K: плюсы хорошие
[12:36:10] sevenov_: плюсы убоги
[12:36:11] A2K: а ты нифига не понимаешь в программировании
[12:36:19] sevenov_: да, я быдло
[12:36:29] sevenov_: еще что скажешь?
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[12:36:34] A2K: плюсы - простые и понятные
[12:36:42] A2K: с - задроццкое
[12:36:59] sevenov: A2K, понятные до тех пор, пока не наткнешся на волшебный баг.
[12:37:11] sevenov: *на какой нибудь волшебный баг
[12:37:21] A2K: значт я не натыкался еще
[12:37:39] sevenov: A2K, значит мало пейсал на нем.
[12:38:14] sevenov: У нас вон, кто-то 1,5 года назад опечатался, теперь вылез баг и 3 месяца искали, в чем же проблема.
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[12:40:06] sevenov: A2K, ты уперт и скучен.
[12:40:30] A2K: а ты уперт и весел, да?
[12:40:58] sevenov: A2K, типа того, профессиональный клоун, ага.
[12:41:12] _lorien: заебали :-)
[12:41:15] A2K: да, я заметил..
[12:41:17] _lorien: хуйню пороть :D
[12:41:43] A2K: весь вопрос сводится к тому как заставить тупое ffmpeg делать seek до keyframe
[12:41:56] A2K: хотя это должно делать av_seek_frame, но оно делает это только если повезёт
[12:42:09] A2K: непредсказуемо, ага.. иногда на фрейм дальше, иногда на фреймближе..
[12:42:21] sevenov: У меня вопрос.
[12:42:34] sevenov: Как заставить A2K не нести чушь, что ffmpeg тупое.
[12:42:44] sevenov: И вообще, как сделать A2K не тупым.
[12:42:48] A2K: sevenov, просто признай что ffmpeg тупое
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[12:44:35] sevenov: A2K, мне проще оставаться при старом мнении, что ты туп ;)
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[12:45:20] A2K: sevenov, это показывает твою неспособность рационально мыслить
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[12:51:27] A2K: sevenov, твоё поведение, что же еще.
[12:52:30] sevenov: A2K, какое? Тебе показали, как можно сделать, с твоей стороны было: "так не хочу, хочу сяк", "ффмпег туп", "си ужасен".
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[12:52:53] A2K: sevenov, мне не показали.
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[12:53:54] A2K: ты первый начал
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[13:50:17] feedbot: Разыскивается django разработчик http://web-brains.com/2009/08/11/rabota/
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[13:57:42] Stanislav Pugachev: hi all
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[14:01:50] огыешсук: feedbot: экий золотой разработчик разыскивается, я половину требуемого уже давно забыл :o(
[14:02:49] mishok13: печаль, сайт ориентированный на Россию и использующий карты гугля
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[14:02:55] mishok13: ебанулись на отличненько
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[14:06:36] огыешсук: а у яндекса есть своё map api? и без ограничений на частоту запросов карты?
[14:06:54] Stanislav Pugachev: есть
[14:07:08] Stanislav Pugachev: намного полнее чем гугловая кстати )
[14:07:27] Stanislav Pugachev: гугловую для украины сделали но она такая смешная )) с транслитом всех улиц
[14:07:54] mishok13: гугель купил ужасные данные
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[14:08:07] mishok13: кто мешал купить их у Визикома -- мне невдомёк
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[14:08:24] sevenov: гугель не вконтакт, со спец.службами не связан :D
[14:08:53] mishok13: причем здесь вконтакт?
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[14:09:43] Stanislav Pugachev: я думаю это все происки массонов )
[14:09:49] sevenov: mishok13, шутка юмора, ответ на "гугель купил ужасные данные"
[14:09:57] nmk: а ./manage.py test нельзя запустить без DATABASE_ENGINE ??
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[14:10:11] mishok13: sevenov, какая-то очень глупая шутка
[14:10:31] mishok13: и всё равно непонятно причем здесь вконтакте
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[14:10:38] огыешсук: действительно. ведь таки ж связан
[14:10:50] Stanislav Pugachev: так таки связан или нет? вы определитесь
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[14:11:46] Stanislav Pugachev: интересно я тут один который не зарегестрирован в контакте или еще такие же уникалы есть?)
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[14:12:30] Lolka: есть)
[14:13:13] Большой Лис: что такое "в контакте"?
[14:13:14] Большой Лис: :)
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[14:13:29] Stanislav Pugachev: рунетовский клон ФБ
[14:13:38] Stanislav Pugachev: ))
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[14:20:16] огыешсук: а кто такой ФБ? недоФБР?
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[14:21:54] bergamot: first blood
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[14:22:20] bergamot: или face book, в зависимости от context
[14:22:21] Stanislav Pugachev: facebook будь он неладен)
[14:22:37] Stanislav Pugachev: шоб они сгорели вместе с их конченым апи
[14:22:38] огыешсук: а, знаю. это тот, что намедни FF прикупил
[14:22:58] огыешсук: s/FF/ФФ, раз уж мы тут все такие русские
[14:23:18] Lolka: Файр Фокс?)
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[14:23:30] огыешсук: Ну ладно, ФрФ
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[14:24:23] generatorglukoff: какие нибудь биндинги к dc++ на питоне есть?
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[14:27:20] mishok13: биндинги к клиентской программе?
[14:27:22] mishok13: зачем?
[14:27:34] generatorglukoff: к ядру
[14:27:44] generatorglukoff: мне нужно клиент к дц
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[14:29:33] bergamot: посмотри simpledc++
[14:29:41] bergamot: на питоне + гтк+
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[14:29:47] generatorglukoff: файлы искать/качать имеет?
[14:29:51] bergamot: да
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[14:30:03] bergamot: но я не юзаю, просто тип с локалки написал
[14:30:41] generatorglukoff: оке спсб
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[15:56:20] Stanislav Pugachev: баян чи нет? http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f324/ann1024/DevelopersAreBornBrave_Small.jpg
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[15:59:31] xa4a: да
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[16:03:47] Stanislav Pugachev: тогда тупой вопрос по GAE. почему при put() модели - key и namе у объекта появляются, а id - None
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[16:10:31] _lorien: Проект ориентирован на русскоязычное население, предполагается, что там общаются путешественники, которые ездят по всему миру. В таком контексте разве не разумно использовать карты google?
[16:10:38] _lorien: это я про tripster.ru, который вероятнее всего имелся в виду в том объявлении
[16:11:41] Typhon: название пиздец
[16:11:44] _lorien: mishok13, это тебе послание
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[16:53:00] mishok13: _lorien, начинать надо с полной поддержки России
[16:53:17] mishok13: если уж проект на русском и расчитан на рускоязычное население
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[16:54:39] _lorien: В любом случае я не вижу причины для спора и кому что надо мне без разницы :-) Кстати, я вспомнил ещё одну деталь, на момент запуска трипстера, это было года два назад api яндекс карт не было. Не помню точно, когда их запустили.
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[17:02:06] mishok13: трипстеру -- два года?
[17:02:09] _lorien: Взял для пример какие-то ебеня в южной америке
google: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=ru&geocode=&q=turbo&sll=54.970902,73.393753&sspn=0.251455,0.88028&ie=UTF8&ll=8.42347,-76.300049&spn=0.945489,1.760559&z=9
yandex: http://maps.yandex.ru/?ll=-76.185535%2C8.160852&spn=7.690423%2C4.049521&l=map
У гугли детализация больше.
[17:02:13] mishok13: извините, но это фейл
[17:02:37] _lorien: Ты про популярность проекта?
[17:02:59] _lorien: В чём фейл? )
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[17:04:31] mishok13: в том что это проект ну никак не на два года
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[17:05:13] _lorien: Т.е. пора закрывать? ))
[17:05:45] mishok13: я бы и не открывал
[17:06:08] _lorien: Вообще не пойму о чём, ты говорили о картах, а ты эмоции какие-то описываешь )
[17:06:52] mishok13: о картах -- детализации яндекса вполне хватает
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[17:07:04] mishok13: проект (судя по блогу) недавно переписывали с нуля
[17:07:16] mishok13: ничего не мешало взять яндексовскую подложку
[17:07:37] _lorien: Переписывали с нуля его в феврале-марте прошлого года :-)
[17:08:00] _lorien: Не помню, был ли тогда яндекс api уже. М.б. и был.
[17:08:07] mishok13: http://tripsterru.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/tripster-20/
[17:08:07] slav0nic: я кроме изменения индекса ничего не наблюдаю)
[17:08:09] mishok13: был
[17:08:22] mishok13: был яндекс апи уже в августе 2008-ого
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[17:08:47] _lorien: оо, у меня провалы в памяти, я думал это прошлый год...
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[17:08:59] _lorien: ну т.е. переписывал я, но я думал, что в том году переписывал )
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[17:09:05] _lorien: жесть :D
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[17:09:47] _lorien: Не, конечно, интересный тез про яндекс карты, я спрошу у трипстеровцев их точку зрения :)
[17:09:53] _lorien: * тезис
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[17:11:11] mishok13: есть еще третий путь -- использовать *оба* API
[17:11:18] mishok13: как flickr, к примеру
[17:11:47] sober: подскажите, плз, в ipython можно повторить блок кода?
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[17:12:02] _lorien: нажать стрелочку вверх? )
[17:12:17] sober: ... повторяет последнее выражение
[17:12:40] Typhon: M-P ?
[17:12:41] _lorien: да ну... у меня функции повторял, а фунция это блок, насколько я знаю
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[17:19:15] slav0nic: Stanislav Pugachev, self.key().id() наверно

[17:21:13] Stanislav Pugachev: slav0nic, наверное но он возвращает None
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[17:21:32] slav0nic: а ты уверен что оно засейвилось?
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[17:22:01] Stanislav Pugachev: я вот думаю. тут метод put переопределен
[17:22:04] Stanislav Pugachev: щас покажу
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[17:22:47] Stanislav Pugachev: http://dumpz.org/11429/
[17:22:55] Stanislav Pugachev: это могло повлиять?
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[17:24:04] Stanislav Pugachev: нипнятно. оно сейвица
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[17:24:43] Stanislav Pugachev: key() есть, key().name() есть, key().id() = None
[17:26:15] slav0nic: да там id вроде может и не быть, я не сильно вник в эти тонкости)
[17:26:21] slav0nic: http://code.google.com/intl/ru/appengine/docs/python/datastore/keyclass.html#Key_has_id_or_name
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[17:27:48] Stanislav Pugachev: Returns the numeric ID of the data entity, as an integer, or None if the entity does not have a numeric ID.
[17:28:19] slav0nic: ну вот поищи в каких случаях ntity does not have a numeric ID.
[17:28:20] Stanislav Pugachev: раньше насколько я помню айдишник автоматом выдавался ) может изменилось чо
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[17:35:21] sevenov: Stanislav Pugachev, а ты уверен, что ID выдается 1..n ?
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[17:35:33] Stanislav Pugachev: sevenov, я точно могу сказать что оно выдается не всегда 1..n. но они всегда гарантировали что он будет уникальным
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[17:50:09] slav0nic: sevenov, не, то key уже
[17:50:16] slav0nic: id только цифровой
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[19:41:43] cutwater:
товарищи, разрешите донять вас глупым вопросом.
последовательность действий
1. просмотр списка вопросов теста
2. редактирование вопроса
3. вернуться списку вопросов
мне кажется что передавать в урле id по которому нужно сделать редирект обратно не кошерно (то есть урл типа quiz/1/question/5/edit не красиво. хочу обойтись без него)
это бред или может есть какой-нибудь более красивый спокоб огранизации навигации.
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[19:45:10] cutwater: тоже вариант хотя если get то тоже не очень красиво. правда я думаю потом все это будет сильно на AJAX завязано и необходимость отпадет.
[19:45:14] cutwater: спасибо
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[19:47:55] bergamot: красиво-некрасиво, тут можно на красоту забить. hidden-поле next - стандартная практика в той же джанге
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[20:00:15] bergamot: маньяковский сервер в дауне?
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[20:02:25] bergamot: http://172.28.1.248/modules.php?name=Forums&file=search&search_id=newposts - до этого джанговцу думаю далеко, так что иногда можно
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[20:03:38] _lorien: Эх, было же время, можно было вбить что-нить такое и каждый пятый сайт содержал уязвимость, когда можно было подгрузить код с удалённого сайта :D
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[20:03:51] _lorien: * вбить в гугл
[20:04:09] cutwater: :)
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[20:05:23] bergamot: _lorien, а почему в pybb запрещены юзерпики?
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[20:05:55] _lorien: почему запрещены? были там какие-то аватарки
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[20:07:43] bergamot: подпись чистится на теги и ббкоды
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[20:08:35] bergamot: я сначала подумал чтобы не было возможности подцепить нехороший скриптик... но в теле сообщения можно картинки юзать
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[20:09:42] _lorien: а, ну да, чиститися, не знаю почему, наверное, так запрограммировал :D
[20:09:55] _lorien: шли патч :)
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[20:23:16] bergamot: посмотрел... блин, логично и компактно. Придумаю что-нибудь чтобы включить ббкоды. Но не сегодня, спать пора
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[20:44:58] _lorien: Спят усталые игрушки, книжки спят.
Одеяла и подушки ждут ребят.
Даже сказка спать ложится,
Что бы ночью нам присниться.
Ты ей пожелай:
Баю-бай.
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[21:10:01] Мозгошредер: тут hgшники-емаксеры есть?
[21:10:39] Мозгошредер: что из существующих привязок hg к emacs юзабельнее? Конкретно интересует mercurial.el vs dvc vs aHg
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[21:12:36] piranha: мне показалось, что ahg
[21:12:52] piranha: но я так и юзаю консольный хг до сих пор...
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[21:15:06] Мозгошредер: piranha, ну я пока так и делаю - на C-c s у меня забинден вызов шелла, ну а там можно команды вводить :)
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[21:26:33] piranha: =)
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[22:48:04] rahs: приветствую
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[22:49:39] rahs: обнаружил щас, что в виндах logging лог в файл не пишет

fname = os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), u'test.log')

logging.basicConfig(filename=fname,)

logging.debug('test')
[22:49:39] red-agent: //topic Центр подготовки летчиков
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[22:50:05] red-agent: rahs, флашнуть может нада.
[22:50:09] rahs: то ли лыжи не едут, то ли погода плохая *DONT_KNOW*
[22:50:21] red-agent: Бля, вот вы уроды.
[22:50:24] red-agent: Ей богу.
[22:50:56] rahs: red-agent, ничего похожего в logging не нашел :(
[22:51:55] red-agent: filemode какой стоит?
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[22:52:23] rahs: дефолтный
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[22:52:41] red-agent: Handler.flush() попробуй.
[22:53:05] red-agent: И бога ради, поставь нормальный клиент, вместо ебанутого квипа. С его ебанутыми *СМАЙЛ*ами.
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[22:54:41] rahs: logging.FileHandler.flush ?
[22:55:26] rahs: red-agent, psi+ устроит?
[22:55:41] red-agent: Что угодно устроит, лишь бы этим говном не сыпало.
[22:55:54] red-agent: flush() вызывай на инстансе твоего хендлера.
[22:56:28] rahs: а, ну дак я могу просто смайлики не писать нестандартные :)
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[23:04:41] rahs: fname = os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), u'test.log')
print fname
logging.basicConfig(filename=fname,)
logging.debug('test')
logging.FileHandler.flush
[23:04:48] rahs: толку - ноль
[23:05:06] rahs: имя файла лога правильное
[23:05:22] rahs: fname = os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), u'test.log').replace('\\','/')
тоже не работает
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[23:06:33] piranha: а на консоль пишет?
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[23:13:18] rahs: занятно
[23:13:33] rahs: решилось добавкой level=logging.NOTSET в конфиг
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[23:13:59] rahs: какой, однако, забавный зверек
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[23:15:51] piranha: гммм
[23:15:57] piranha: так оно по дефолту только выше эррора логает
[23:16:04] piranha: походу..
[23:17:14] red-agent: я глянул, кстати, в сорсы logging на днях.
[23:17:17] red-agent: mishok13 был прав.
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[23:17:34] red-agent: Гештальт-быдлокод.
[23:17:40] Typhon: автор же
[23:17:43] Typhon: индус кажется
[23:17:52] Typhon: по крайней мере имя намекает
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[23:18:57] rahs: piranha, да, точно
[23:19:08] piranha: red-agent: там ад тупо
[23:19:12] piranha: так и он же тормозной нереально
[23:19:19] piranha: я не понимаю, как такое приняли в питон :(
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[23:19:41] Typhon: enterprise же практически )
[23:19:55] piranha: так да
[23:21:17] rahs: в доке я ничего пока не нашел про дефолтный уровень :(
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[23:29:06] rahs: что будет, если два скрипта попытаются писать в один лог одновременно?
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[23:30:02] red-agent: два разных интерпретатора?
[23:30:59] rahs: да
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[23:31:45] red-agent: как повезет, скорее всего покоцанный лог
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[23:32:48] piranha: постой
[23:32:53] piranha: они ж не смогут оба открыть на запись файл
[23:32:55] piranha: разве нет?
[23:33:08] rahs: опыт показывает, что уживаются
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[23:33:34] rahs: мирно по очереди (?) пишут в один и тот же файл
[23:33:37] red-agent: piranha, Хм, это в принципе платформо-зависимо.
[23:34:03] rahs: я сейчас про винду говорю :) на ней и опыты ставлю
[23:34:07] red-agent: Но я думаю, что конкретно logger юзает select.
[23:34:13] red-agent: По-этому и уживаются.
[23:34:15] piranha: ам
[23:34:17] piranha: наверное
[23:34:40] rahs: на это можно завязываться или нет?
[23:35:22] piranha: лучше нет
[23:35:42] Typhon: непонятно, зачем один лог им
[23:35:51] piranha: +1
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[23:40:42] xa4a: fs = (open('/tmp/qq', 'w'), open('/tmp/qq', 'w')); [f.write(str(i)) for i, f in enumerate(fs)]; [f.close() for f in fs]
[23:40:50] xa4a: даёт открыть два файла в 'w'
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[23:41:54] xa4a: *один файл два раза
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[23:42:48] rahs: Typhon. если две копии скрипта могут теоретически работать в одно и то же время, как организовать логирование?
[23:43:08] Typhon: у каждого свой лог
[23:43:08] xa4a: rahs: syslog
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[23:43:23] xa4a: /me убил кросплатформенность только что
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[23:43:48] rahs: Typhon, неудобно. xa4a, а винде?
[23:44:06] Typhon: rahs, кому неудобно? :)
[23:45:13] xa4a: The logging module is intended to be thread-safe without any special work needing to be done by its clients.
[23:45:26] xa4a: вощем-та ман
[23:45:41] xa4a: а, гм. про два интерпретатора не то, да
[23:46:18] rahs: xa4a, потому и полез эксперименты ставить :)
[23:46:50] Typhon: один лог тебе не нужен, я все-таки считаю
[23:47:03] xa4a: Python logging ServerThis projects provides a Python Logging Server based on the Twisted framework. It provides the server side compliment to the Python logging.handlers.SocketHandler client module.
[23:47:03] Typhon: тебе все равно внутри надо будет различать, какая из копий что делала
[23:47:12] Typhon: наверное
[23:47:20] xa4a: а то про твистед давно не вспоминали)
[23:47:21] rahs: Typhon, просто неудобно. Читать десять файлов лога вместо одного - жутко
[23:47:27] xa4a: http://code.google.com/p/python-loggingserver/
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[23:47:34] rahs: а ротацию как делать?
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[23:48:30] rahs: xa4a, спасибо. почитаю на сон грядущий :)
[23:48:51] Typhon: притянуть твистед для логирования?
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