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[00:46:02] Александp: кто-нибудь встречал апликуху для пометки прочитанных и непрочитанных записей?
[00:46:09] Александp: для django
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[08:00:05] Александp: http://dumpz.org/11474/ есть вот такая модель,
пытаюсь сделать TestModel.objects.filter(content_object__author=request.user) и получаю ошибку. В документации написано что такие штуки как content_object__author нельзя делать. Можете подсказать другие решения?
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[08:00:30] Александp: или какие-нибудь приложения для отслеживания просмотренных и непросмотренных объектов
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[08:07:01] _lorien: Александp, если ты ссылаешь на модель Foo через GenericForeignKey, то ты можешь прописать в Foo: tests = GenericRelation(TestModel) и затем делать
TestModel.objects.filter(foo__author=request.user)
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[08:07:34] Александp: _lorien, а если нужно поддерживать различные типы объектов?
[08:07:58] Александp: в этом вся загвоздка
[08:08:22] _lorien: делай по выборке на моель, потом вместе скомпоновывай
[08:10:25] Александp: _lorien, в смысле?
[08:11:04] _lorien: выбери все Foo, потом все Bar, потом положи их в один список
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[11:50:20] wonderfulll: можно ли удалить поле из формы динамически?
[11:50:43] _lorien: можно
[11:50:49] _lorien: правда у меня были глюки с кэшем
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[11:51:15] _lorien: так что я напугался и теперь делаю
super()
self.fields['foo'].required = False
self.fields['foo'].widget = forms.HiddenWidget() :D
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[11:51:52] wonderfulll: у меня ща тож кэширует
[11:52:05] _lorien: ну вот, мой способ точно работать будет :)
[11:52:25] wonderfulll: ок, спасибо :)
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[11:52:44] _lorien: Ещё можно каждый раз создавать форму заново, например, не импортировать форму, а импортировать функцию, которая строит форму.
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[11:54:14] wonderfulll: а как в функции задать форму?
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[11:54:40] wonderfulll: variable = ModelForm() ???
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[11:55:54] огыешсук: def qqq():
class MegaForm():
pass
return MegaForm
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[11:57:42] wonderfulll: вроде и так работает variable = forms.Form()
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[12:11:49] Typhon: http://gunsmoker.blogspot.com/2009/08/delphi-delphi.html уахаха
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[12:42:57] Большой Лис: кроме swift и aba, ещё номера-коды какие то нужны?
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[12:49:33] unk2k: Всем привет, вопрос по джанге
Есть форма 50 полей (input, textarea, select, checkbox) по дизайну эта форма размещается в трех блоках (т.е. {{ form.as_table }} уже не катит), как лучше всего реализовать сие ?
2. в этой форме есть динамические поля (т.е. если в определенном input ввести число 10, то в определенном блоке появятся дополнительные 10 полей) если ввести 20 то появится 20 полей.
как это сделать лучше всего ?
п.с. мне приходят мысли как это сделать но я чувствую что мой вариант кривой.
мысль такова, использовать formset_factory и выводить каждый элемент формы руками {{ form.field_name }}
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[13:03:21] unk2k: почему мне не отвечают ?
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[13:03:46] piranha: чуваки, есть кто-нить, кто не знает, чей это флаг? http://my.piranha.org.ua/flag.jpg
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[13:04:53] unk2k: угу
[13:04:55] unk2k: знаю
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[13:05:28] unk2k: у этой страны площадь 301 230 км²
[13:05:43] piranha: ага, мне больше интересно - есть ли те, кто не знают
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[13:06:04] unk2k: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8F
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[13:06:32] unk2k: ответ избыточен =)
[13:06:40] piranha: та это очевидно ;)
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[13:06:59] _lorien: я не знаю )
[13:07:05] piranha: та ну
[13:07:06] unk2k: а е**
[13:07:07] piranha: реально?
[13:07:08] _lorien: я своей то еле запомнил, где какие полоски
[13:07:12] piranha: ну ты гонишь
[13:07:20] piranha: а еще какие-то книги про стеклянные жопы читаешь
[13:07:25] unk2k: читаю: чуваки, кто кто-нибудь, кто знает, чей это флаг
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[13:07:34] _lorien: ок, я гоню и долбоёб, если тебе легче отэтого ;-)
[13:07:39] piranha: _lorien: а флаг великобритании ты знаешь?
[13:07:41] slav0nic: ))
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[13:07:50] piranha: _lorien: мне тяжелее, я как раз убеждаю чувака, шо все знают )
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[13:07:51] unk2k: ответти на мой вопрос пжста
[13:08:03] piranha: unk2k: да, кстати, большинство людей читает то, что думает, а не то, что написано )))
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[13:08:16] unk2k: ))
[13:08:24] unk2k: Есть форма 50 полей (input, textarea, select, checkbox) по дизайну эта форма размещается в трех блоках (т.е. {{ form.as_table }} уже не катит), как лучше всего реализовать сие ?
2. в этой форме есть динамические поля (т.е. если в определенном input ввести число 10, то в определенном блоке появятся дополнительные 10 полей) если ввести 20 то появится 20 полей.
как это сделать лучше всего ?
п.с. мне приходят мысли как это сделать но я чувствую что мой вариант кривой.
мысль такова, использовать formset_factory и выводить каждый элемент формы руками {{ form.field_name }}
[13:08:50] _lorien: unk2k, ты заебал
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[13:09:06] unk2k: _lorien, сейчас или вообще ?
[13:09:06] mishok13: никто из Одессы не хочет в Логике на питоне разрабатывать?
[13:09:07] _lorien: мы не слепые же
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[13:09:29] _lorien: просто всем лень читать стока букв :)
[13:09:35] unk2k: _lorien, а че молчите то
[13:09:46] Typhon: piranha: предлагаю считать, что все люди знают, а кто не знает, тот не человек. добавит конструктивное звено в спор, если он там у тебя есть
[13:09:47] unk2k: _lorien, пишешь коротко вам не понятно, пишешь понятно, вам много
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[13:10:29] _lorien: италия, ы я смотрю чё-то знакомое :)
[13:10:39] Typhon: mishok13: а чем заниматься надо?
[13:10:41] _lorien: я в сеть sbarro хожу часто )
[13:10:48] Typhon: т.е., я не из оодессы, но любопытно
[13:10:50] slav0nic: Typhon, в море купаться
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[13:10:56] piranha: Typhon: ну спор есть, конечно - чувак говорит, что сложные флаги типа британии легче люди запоминают
[13:11:01] mishok13: Typhon, море, кабаки, бабы
[13:11:03] piranha: а я сказал, что италию знают не меньше, хоть флаг и простой
[13:11:06] mishok13: ну и питон :)
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[13:11:11] piranha: _lorien: флаг британии знаешь? ;)
[13:11:12] Typhon: ну на питоне можно джангой
[13:11:14] _lorien: у британии там какой-то крест диагональный. да?
[13:11:15] Typhon: а можно нормальным
[13:11:20] mishok13: Typhon, не, не веб
[13:11:21] Typhon: :)
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[13:11:30] Мозгошредер: _lorien, там микс 3х флагов
[13:11:34] _lorien: я ещё USA знаю )
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[13:11:41] Мозгошредер: англии, шотландии и уэльса вроде
[13:11:42] piranha: _lorien: там буква Жо
[13:11:46] _lorien: и кетай )
[13:11:57] mishok13: я подробностей точных не знаю, еще сам не общался на техническом интервью с ними
[13:11:59] piranha: а украйну?!
[13:12:00] piranha: ;)
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[13:12:18] _lorien: неа
[13:12:19] piranha: _lorien: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg
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[13:12:24] piranha: _lorien: ну ты даëшь
[13:12:25] Мозгошредер: piranha, некоторые умудряются у нашего флага полоски перепутать)
[13:12:26] piranha: %)
[13:12:30] _lorien: Я не пойму логики, почему ядолжне знать флаг Италии? )
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[13:12:54] Typhon: piranha: у непала сложный флаг?
[13:12:55] piranha: _lorien: элементарно, Ватсон - это общечеловеческие ценности! :Д
[13:12:59] mishok13: более грамотный вопрос: зачем его знать?
[13:13:01] piranha: Мозгошредер: это в принципе объяснимо
[13:13:06] piranha: потому что в разное время были по разному
[13:13:12] piranha: Typhon: дупля не режу, какой там
[13:13:14] Typhon: вот он нестандартный, но мне кажется , его меньше народу знает, чем италии
[13:13:24] Typhon: piranha: tреугольничками ))
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[13:13:29] piranha: ну нестандартность - не залог известности, это понятно
[13:13:31] Typhon: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Файл:Flag_of_Nepal.svg
[13:13:32] mishok13: piranha, Холмс бы сказал, "идите в жопу со своими флагами, я скрипку выбираю"
[13:13:49] piranha: =)))
[13:13:53] piranha: mishok13: холмс не нужен
[13:14:06] mishok13: ХОЛМС И ОВСЯНКА НЕ РАЗДЕЛИМЫ, сэр.
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[13:14:26] piranha: я не ем холмсов!
[13:14:39] mishok13: ЛУЧИ ПЛАВЦОВ
[13:14:41] unk2k: Есть форма class forma(forms.Form)
в этой форме есть поля типа
name, cost, и т.д. но так же там есть поля info_year_1,info_year_1,info_year_1 которые генерируются JSом в зависимости от выбранной даты.
вопрос как мне сделать форму ?
[13:14:55] mishok13: в общем, подхожу я к твоей маме и ...
[13:15:02] unk2k: info_year_1,info_year_2,info_year_3,info_year_ХХХХ
[13:15:03] piranha: пловцов!
[13:15:20] _lorien: info_year_1_luchi_plovcov
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[13:16:12] _lorien: unk2k, спрашивай уж тогда на форуме сагалаева, там точно ответят )
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[13:16:33] unk2k: что не уж то всем так в падлу прочесть ?
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[13:19:09] Мозгошредер: ситуация: есть реп hg и его клон. в клоне ревизия 10, в репе 15. Вопрос: после hg fetch в клоне релиз апнется до 15 ?
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[13:19:43] Мозгошредер: всм текущая версия рабочей директории
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[13:23:47] slav0nic: кто твистед юзает?
делаю import, твистед по ходу юзает reflect.namedAny модуль есть в sys.path (каталогом выше), но вылетает ImportError =\
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[13:24:03] _lorien: Мозгошредер, ну да, hg fetch = hg pull; hg up
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[13:24:49] slav0nic: mishok13, не в курсе как быть?
[13:25:07] mishok13: питон какой?
[13:25:10] slav0nic: 2.5
[13:25:11] piranha: _lorien: не =, а ~=
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[13:25:33] _lorien: подробности в студию :)
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[13:25:52] mishok13: может проблемы с абсолютным импортом?
[13:25:53] slav0nic: ща пираныч лекцию прочтёт)
[13:26:03] Большой Лис: http://fishki_net.users.photofile.ru/photo/fishki_net/3751920/85802810.jpg
[13:26:09] mishok13: точнее, его отсутствием в 2.5 по дефолту
[13:26:25] mishok13: у тебя есть возможность на 2.6 ту же версию твистеда проверить?
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[13:27:10] _lorien: :)
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[14:02:49] wonderfulll: можно ли в форме динамически задать имя поля?
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[14:10:17] mishok13: Objective C: [string stringByTrimmingCharactersInSet:[NSCharacterSet whitespaceAndNewlineCharacterSet]]
Python string.strip()
...
"""I don't consider that a disadvantage, but a huge advantage. It explicitly states what it is doing, none of the others do"""
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[14:10:38] mishok13: эппл я смотрю не только обычных пользователей зомбирует
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[14:10:52] piranha: риальне
[14:10:56] piranha: идиотизм )
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[14:14:23] mishok13: охбял, геокодинг -- это такой геморрой
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[14:16:13] mishok13: """Толку мало, загрузить файл не получится. xml.dom.minidom парсить умеет, xpath нет"""
[14:16:18] mishok13: что за день дебилоидов?
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[14:18:23] Typhon: и с примерами для copy-paste и с примерами для copy-paste и с примерами для copy-paste
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[14:43:24] jedgar: чем отличается User.objects.get(id=user_id) от User.objects.get(pk=user_id)
[14:43:27] jedgar: ?
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[14:48:32] jedgar: а, все, нашел описание
[14:48:36] jedgar: пасиба
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[14:50:18] feedbot: Новая версия VideoSniffer 0.2 http://hlabs.spb.ru/news/videosniffer_0.2.html
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[14:53:25] mishok13: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9a5l7/xml_is_a_specialized_alphabet_that_can_capture/
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[14:58:36] mishok13: камменты отжигают
[14:59:08] mishok13: > You can "program", in the turing-complete sense of the word, in XSLT, which consists of nothing but XML, so, XML is a programming language. I'm not recommending it. I'm just saying.
You can "program", in the turing-complete sense of the word, in C, which consists of nothing but ASCII, so, ASCII is a programming language. I'm not recommending it. I'm just saying.
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[15:23:01] xa4a: правда платное, да. но там есть чо почитать
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[15:56:52] сварной: Благодарю!
[15:57:38] сварной: как это побороть ?
/Desktop/rationum/src $ python infogetter.py
infogetter.py:36: GtkWarning: gtk_list_store_get_value: assertion `column < list_store->n_columns' failed
gtk.main()
infogetter.py:36: Warning: g_object_set_property: assertion `G_IS_VALUE (value)' failed
gtk.main()
infogetter.py:36: Warning: g_value_unset: assertion `G_IS_VALUE (value)' failed
gtk.main()

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[15:59:51] Typhon: сварной: dumpz.org
[15:59:59] Typhon: ну и код покажи, чтоле
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[16:19:21] mishok13: а что это вообще за софт?
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[16:20:01] mishok13: в предупреждениях я ничего плохого не вижу, похоже все эти assert'ы добавлены были позднее 2007-ого
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[16:22:51] cutwater: чето эта долбаная эвристика Beautiful Soup слишком умная.
[16:23:13] cutwater: выкидываел половину загружаемой страницы.
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[16:25:42] сварной: mishok13, ..поделился один товарищ кодом программки...вот пытаюсь поднять её на генте...а до него не достучаться...
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[16:26:30] mishok13: ну, я к тому, что тот код который ты показал -- он как бы датирован 2007
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[16:27:01] mishok13: с тех пор добавили предупреждения
[16:27:40] mishok13: скорее всего были какие-то изменения в формате glade, или же просто GTK UI поменялся немного
[16:27:47] mishok13: тут только гадать остается
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[16:27:59] mishok13: разбираться со всем кодом у меня нету желания
[16:28:04] mishok13: да и кода всего я не вижу :)
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[16:54:11] piranha: я сошëл с ума и подумываю на сервере юзать генту вместо дебиана...
[16:54:26] piranha: или шото еще
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[17:01:15] mr.oduvan: народ
[17:01:26] mr.oduvan: ктото в ActionScript3 шарит?
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[17:06:56] wiz: actionscript@c.j.r
[17:07:10] _lorien: piranha, зачем?
[17:07:30] piranha: _lorien: та задрали меня стопки пакетов, зависящие друг от друга и тянущие всë подряд
[17:07:42] wiz: а в генте не так чтоль?
[17:07:43] _lorien: место на HDD кончилось? :)
[17:07:46] piranha: да и сложность сборки нового пакета задолбала
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[17:07:56] piranha: wiz: ну нет, сорцы ж
[17:08:08] wiz: та же херь, даже ещё хуже имхо
[17:08:15] piranha: та ну
[17:08:21] piranha: ты ж расставляешь USE, да и всë
[17:08:50] piranha: ну прикинь кайф
[17:08:59] piranha: я устанавливаю трак, а он мне тянет mysql-common
[17:09:00] piranha: зачем?
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[17:09:26] _lorien: piranha, ты прописал в /etc/apt/apt.conf disable для suggested и recommended?
[17:09:37] sevenov: piranha, а прикинт, ставишь gnome, а он тянет kde4-full o__O
[17:09:39] piranha: само собой!
[17:09:55] piranha: гном я не ставлю
[17:10:04] piranha: у него сильно много зависимостей :ДДД
[17:10:31] _lorien: sevenov, а если ещё покурить, то ставишь awesome, а оно тянет винды и сносит линукс :)
[17:10:32] sevenov: гном же не нужен
[17:10:41] sevenov: _lorien, дык ваще отлично
[17:10:48] sevenov: и все порно с торрентов )
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[17:11:32] _lorien: windows xp -> windows seven -> windows sevenov :-)
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[17:12:03] Большой Лис: piranha, это не из-за трака
[17:12:12] sevenov: _lorien, о, тогда я их засужу на десяток миллиардиков
[17:12:13] Большой Лис: это какой то хер собрал так subversion
[17:12:26] sevenov: Большой Лис, ну а зачем он svn тянет?
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[17:12:44] piranha: Большой Лис: да, я это тоже выкупил, но в этот раз меня как-то это особенно напрягло
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[17:13:03] Большой Лис: депенденсы сабвершена
Depends: libsvn1 (= 1.5.4dfsg1-1ubuntu2), libapr1, libaprutil1, libc6 (>= 2.4), libdb4.6, libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7), libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.27-1), libneon27-gnutls (>= 0.28.2), libpq5 (>= 8.3~beta1), libsasl2-2, libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.6.10), libuuid1 (>= 1.05), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
[17:13:05] Большой Лис: сцуки
[17:13:16] piranha: почему, блин, почему?!
[17:13:17] piranha: :(
[17:13:25] piranha: а вот, нашëл тот проект
[17:13:35] Большой Лис: потому что маинтейнер йеблан?
[17:13:36] piranha: "генту гавно, мы щас сделаем крутой, но вы пока не юзайте"
[17:13:40] piranha: http://www.exherbo.org/
[17:13:50] piranha: уже нету больших надписей "неюзабельно"... ;)
[17:13:59] piranha: Большой Лис: ну так большинство пакетов такие :(
[17:14:05] piranha: меня особенно бесит вот это:
[17:14:26] piranha: http://dumpz.org/11492/
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[17:14:43] piranha: как ни ставлю систему, каждый раз прозреваю %)
[17:14:56] piranha: ну что за мудилой надо быть, чтоб такое подсунуть? ;)
[17:15:20] Большой Лис: piranha, mtr-tiny - Полноэкранный traceroute на основе ncurses
[17:15:26] Большой Лис: не выпендривайся
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[17:15:33] piranha: я в курсе
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[17:15:39] piranha: но почему не наоборот?
[17:15:47] piranha: какой мудак может захотеть мтр с иксами?
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[17:16:01] piranha: это шо, игрушка для самых маленьких?
[17:16:05] piranha: или это винда?
[17:16:06] Большой Лис: (а чо, прикольно, там экспортировать html удобно можно)
[17:16:08] piranha: нет, это линух и тулза для админов
[17:16:14] jedgar: интересно, есть ли кто пользовался докой по питону в виде Python25.chm, но нашел что-то более удобное
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[17:16:22] piranha: jedgar: нету
[17:16:38] piranha: я пользовался ей и ничего более удобного не нашëл
[17:16:48] piranha: потому шо собсна куда удобнее?
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[17:16:59] _lorien: я в firefox пишу python foo-bar и оно ищет мне в онлайн доках через гугл
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[17:17:47] piranha: ну да, я тоже сейчас так делаю
[17:17:50] jedgar: ввожу я например "class" и выводит 7 пунктов, хз в какой из них идти, приходится перебирать
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[17:18:07] piranha: хмм.. да, ты прав, аннотацию бы им
[17:19:38] jedgar: вот я и спрашиваю вдруг кто с аннотацией нашел или сделал
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[17:19:44] piranha: гугль
[17:19:45] piranha: ;)
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[17:20:04] piranha: Большой Лис: а ты щас везде дебилиан юзаешь?
[17:20:09] piranha: до этого ты ж вроде педору юзал?
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[17:20:41] Большой Лис: осталась ещё на старинных сервагах
[17:20:46] Большой Лис: vps-ках т.е.
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[17:21:57] Большой Лис: mtr.x86_64 : A network diagnostic tool
mtr-gtk.x86_64 : The GTK+ interface for mtr
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[17:22:04] Большой Лис: в федоре по человецки
[17:22:10] Большой Лис: в этом конкретном случае
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[17:24:44] piranha: вово
[17:24:52] piranha: хотя педору я себе точно не поставлю ;)
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[17:26:14] _lorien: freebsd :)
[17:26:38] _lorien: у меня до сих пор на дедике стоит, осталось два дня чтобы переехать :-/
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[17:30:27] piranha: та ну фпень
[17:30:40] piranha: уж если сорс-бейсед, то генту куда удачнее
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[17:41:53] Большой Лис: нет уж
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[17:42:03] Большой Лис: лучше иногда на такую херь натыкаться
[17:42:15] Большой Лис: чем кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить-кампилить
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[17:42:39] piranha: =)))))
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[17:44:05] _lorien: а потом забываешь флаг включить и опять... :)
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[17:45:51] Большой Лис: НЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕЕТ!!!!11
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[17:46:04] Большой Лис: /me не может выносить этот ужос
[17:46:12] xa4a: /me потыкал _lorien и Большой Лис:
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[17:46:23] xa4a: и пошёл обновлять мир
[17:46:31] Большой Лис: /me упал в обморок
[17:46:45] _lorien: /me похуй :-)
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[17:50:40] xa4a: lafilefixer --justfixit ведь!
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[17:51:17] _lorien: xa4a, ты firefox компиляешь? )
[17:51:25] xa4a: да
[17:51:28] xa4a: он быстро компиляется
[17:51:33] xa4a: xulrunner дольше
[17:51:47] _lorien: а опеноффис? :D
[17:51:50] xa4a: Wed Aug 12 00:18:07 2009 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.2 merge time: 3 minutes and 12 seconds
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[17:52:01] xa4a: Tue Aug 11 17:01:55 2009 >>> net-libs/xulrunner-1.9.1.2 merge time: 28 minutes and 5 seconds.
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[17:52:10] _lorien: жестоко :)
[17:52:25] xa4a: опенофис скомпиленый юзаю
[17:52:40] xa4a: а. один раз компилял. Thu Oct 9 05:50:50 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.4.1 merge time: 3 hours, 1 minute and 27 seconds.
[17:52:42] piranha: не, ну вы гоните
[17:52:52] piranha: понятно, что на серваке никаких опенофисов
[17:52:54] xa4a: а чо. оно само по ночам компилится. мне ж не жалко
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[17:52:59] piranha: максимум - это опач да постгрес
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[17:54:59] xa4a: да.. апач и постгрес - по 7-8 минут на AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
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[17:55:38] xa4a: вроде самое долгое
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[17:59:47] piranha: ну вот, можно пережить вполне, учитывая шо там феном 2 810
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[18:03:20] _lorien: пережить можно что угодно,было бы достаточножелания или фанатизма :)
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[18:08:27] jedgar: а можно в темплейте чтото такое сделать: {{ newobj.users.{{uid}} }} ?
[18:10:13] jedgar: newobj.users.1 newobj.users.2 newobj.users.3 работают, вопрос как вместо цифры подставить счетчик
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[18:10:56] _lorien: {% for %}
[18:10:56] xa4a: счётчик - не питонично
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[18:12:58] jedgar: думаю во вьюхе подправить структуру объекта
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[18:14:40] jedgar: надеюсь это не слишком тупо - повыдергивать из кворисетов данных, засунуть в сложный объект и пройтись по нему {% for %}
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[18:46:40] rulexec: доброго времени суток, есть вопрос: как можно объявить большое количество ассоциативных массивов с одинаковыми ключами, не повторяя их?
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[18:47:24] rulexec: т.е.
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[18:47:48] xa4a: keys = ['a', 'b', 'c']; d1, d2, d3 = map(lambda vals: dict(zip(keys, vals)), [range(3), range(5,8), "qwe"])
[18:47:57] rulexec: допустим нужно создать 20 ассоциативных массивов {'name' : 'Rulexec','comment' : u'ужас какой о_О'}
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[18:48:18] rulexec: и в каждом параметр name и comment разные
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[18:49:07] xa4a: rulexec: тут тебе не пхп
[18:49:07] bergamot_: ассоциативных массивов... пхпшник?
[18:49:07] xa4a: нет ассоциативных массивов. есть словари
[18:49:08] bergamot_: список словарей сделай да и все
[18:49:08] rulexec: а
[18:49:08] rulexec: ну словари
[18:49:08] rulexec: какая разница, смысл тот же :D
[18:49:17] rulexec: мне это нужно просто для красоты :)
[18:49:47] rulexec: чтобы можно было написать так:
[18:50:06] xa4a: я написал как
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[18:50:20] rulexec: 'Rulexec' 'ужас какой о_О'
[18:50:35] piranha: не уловил, и чо? ;)
[18:50:38] piranha: ну написал, и что? :)
[18:50:41] xa4a: vals = [('name1', 'comment1'), ('name2', 'value2')]
[18:50:42] rulexec: блин
[18:51:01] rulexec: нужен именно словарь :)
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[18:51:30] rulexec: даже не знаю как и толком объяснить
[18:51:33] xa4a: keys = ('name', 'comment'); res = map(lambda val: dict(zip(keys, val)), vals)
[18:51:37] xa4a: ещё раз написал
[18:51:40] xa4a: третий раз писать не буду
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[18:52:39] rulexec: ай =\
[18:52:43] rulexec: не то
[18:53:02] rulexec: сам сделаю какой-нить костыль лучше =/
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[18:53:32] xa4a: rulexec: try: import this
[18:53:41] xa4a: там написано, что костыль - не лучше
[18:54:20] rulexec: вау
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[18:54:43] piranha: rulexec: ну если не то, то тогда подробнее опиши ситуацию
[18:54:51] piranha: что ты пишешь и что хочешь получить
[18:55:03] piranha: а то моя телепатия что-то не срабатывает :(
[18:55:25] rulexec: ща покажу
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[18:58:56] jedgar: там кстати написано Readability counts.
[18:59:22] jedgar: както невяжется с постоянным стремлением написать все в одну строку =)
[18:59:22] bergamot_: piranha, а ты токио юзал?
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[18:59:57] xa4a: jedgar: я последнее время много читаю хаскеля =)
[19:00:12] piranha: bergamot_: в продакшене - нет
[19:00:48] bergamot_: берклиевскую базу я поломал, используя без блокировок в несколько потоков
[19:00:56] piranha: =)
[19:01:04] piranha: не уверен, что по этому поводу скажет токио
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[19:01:17] piranha: бтв, у тебя данные длинные?
[19:01:18] bergamot_: а он клиент-серверный
[19:01:22] piranha: не
[19:01:28] piranha: tokyo tyrant - клиент-серверный
[19:01:38] piranha: а tokyo cabinet - это ж бекенд, он как бдб
[19:01:41] bergamot_: а ну я его и имею ввиду
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[19:01:56] piranha: а, ок
[19:01:59] piranha: еще глянь на редис отгда
[19:02:06] piranha: его намного легче засетапить
[19:02:22] bergamot_: ну я так понял он памяти жрет немеряно
[19:02:25] rulexec: вот
[19:02:28] bergamot_: а у меня с памятью самый рамс
[19:02:29] piranha: редис?
[19:02:32] bergamot_: ага
[19:02:37] piranha: аа, ну если ты туда дофига пишешь, то возможно
[19:02:39] piranha: да, наверное
[19:02:44] piranha: rulexec: ?
[19:03:01] bergamot_: у меня две базы, одна полметра, вторая 120 метров
[19:03:13] piranha: хух
[19:03:17] piranha: да, тогда токио возьми
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[19:03:56] bergamot_: по идее мне надо 1) key-value хранилище для pickled объектов 2) чтобы жрало поменьше памяти
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[19:04:00] bergamot_: ну и надежно/быстро
[19:04:15] bergamot_: другая функциональность пока не требуется
[19:04:17] red-agent: dbm
[19:04:33] piranha: bergamot_: еще как вариант есть memcachedb
[19:04:48] bergamot_: у меня он не завелся
[19:04:53] piranha: вообще при твоих требованиях - токио или мемкешдб
[19:04:58] piranha: хм, ну ладно
[19:05:00] piranha: у меня на шару ;)
[19:05:28] red-agent: bergamot_, dbm чем не нравится?
[19:05:43] bergamot_: его просто еще не смотрел
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[19:06:17] bergamot_: судя по примеру http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBM - примерно тоже самое что и беркли
[19:06:31] rulexec: >>> c = []
>>> a = ('Rulexec','blablabla'),('longedok','xexe')
>>> for b in a:
... c.append({'name' : b[0],'comment' : b[1]})
...
>>> c
[{'comment': 'blablabla', 'name': 'Rulexec'}, {'comment': 'xexe', 'name': 'longedok'}]
[19:06:36] rulexec: о_О
[19:06:38] rulexec: вот я о чём
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[19:06:57] piranha: это и есть беркли
[19:07:02] piranha: точнее беркли - это его версия
[19:07:03] xa4a: rulexec: >_<
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[19:07:19] rulexec: чтобы не писать много-много раз ключи :D
[19:07:23] piranha: rulexec: и чем тебе не понравился код xa4a?
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[19:07:41] rulexec: piranha, я боюсь кода которого не понимаю :D
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[19:08:49] piranha: ок, вот проще:

keys = ('name', 'comment')
c = [dict(zip(keys, vals)) for vals in a]
[19:09:08] xa4a: /me уже 26-ю главу RWH боится непонятного кода
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[19:10:01] piranha: bergamot_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dbm - см successors
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[19:12:26] sevenov: xa4a, я в последнее время курю: haskell, erlang, ocaml, lua, сегодня вот начал еще курить io. Вот мой мозг по тихоньку взрывается.
[19:12:48] xa4a: а я привык уже..
[19:13:02] xa4a: вот дочитаю главу эту, пойду чо-то попишу..
[19:13:03] sevenov: одновременно?
[19:13:06] sevenov: а
[19:13:07] xa4a: а то курить-курить..
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[19:13:37] sevenov: я в том смысле, что все одновременно. Один таб - одно, второй таб - другое :/
[19:13:57] xa4a: мне этого не надо
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[19:16:10] sevenov: так вообще не надо, никому. Толку большого от этого нет
[19:16:55] xa4a: на хаскель можно фапать
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[19:17:20] xa4a: можно трансформеров собирать своих
[19:17:22] xa4a: монадных
[19:17:42] piranha: хммм
[19:17:44] xa4a: а ещё в виме после плагина haskell cuteness - красивые буковки
[19:17:53] piranha: xa4a: ты смотрел the big bang theory?
[19:17:56] xa4a: нет
[19:18:00] piranha: а посмотри
[19:18:08] sevenov: piranha, физики-задроты, гагага.
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[19:18:18] piranha: вкратце - фапать надо на монику белуччи
[19:18:20] xa4a: я вот только пару дней назад сериал закончил
[19:18:28] xa4a: друзей
[19:19:01] xa4a: ух они длинные. и сегодня просмотрел better off ted. скучноватое
[19:19:02] sevenov: xa4a, ты страшный человек. Откуда столько времени на 10 сезонов?
[19:19:11] xa4a: sevenov: я где-то в мае начал
[19:19:15] sevenov: аа
[19:19:24] sevenov: "Как я встретил вашу маму" тоже доставляет
[19:19:34] sevenov: но теория большого взрыва - взрыв мозга.
[19:19:47] xa4a: да.. так я про трансформеров
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[19:22:01] sevenov: результат тестирования tokyo cabinet на биндинге для io:
287265 group transactional writes per second
166683 reads per second
118523 cursor reads per second
374672 group transactional removes per second
13654 individual transactional writes per second
14484 individual transactional removes per second
[19:22:04] piranha: sevenov: впрочем, дживс и вустер круче
[19:22:29] sevenov: piranha, хахах, англ. юмор )
[19:22:48] sevenov: >This test was in B-Tree mode and for reads and write the number of keys was 10,000, the key size is 22 bytes and the value size is 8 bytes. Order is random except for cursor reads, which are sequential.
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[19:31:19] bergamot_: хм.. в дебиане есть пакеты tokyo cabinet, но нет tyrant
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[19:43:36] bergamot_: скомпилил кабинет
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[19:43:56] bergamot_: и tyrant тоже
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[19:48:01] bergamot_: как посмотреть, кто сидит на порту?
[19:48:28] bergamot_: поставил тирант, не запускал его, а мемкешем подключаюсь к 1978 и он работает
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[19:50:22] xa4a: netstat -atpn | grep 1978
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[19:50:54] bergamot_: пустой
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[19:52:25] xa4a: sudo можт
[19:52:32] xa4a: если пусто - значит никого
[19:52:44] bergamot_: под рутом запускал и сравнивал с 11211
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[19:55:38] bergamot_: ладно, туплю, телнетом пробраться не могу - значит нету никакого сервера, а то что запросы проходят - это галюцинации
[19:55:42] bergamot_: и мне пора спать
[19:56:08] bergamot_: барабашка
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[19:58:41] sevenov: bergamot_, гони барабашку из головы, пусть у себя в антресоли сидит.
[19:59:31] bergamot_: да это ппц, новая сессия ipy, импорт, коннект, гет - работает
[19:59:38] bergamot_: хотя на порту ничего нет
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[20:00:45] sevenov: bergamot_, а ты как стартовал?
[20:01:01] sevenov: попробуй просто бинарник сам запустить
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[20:01:16] bergamot_: что стартовал то? демон токио?
[20:01:21] bergamot_: я его не запускал
[20:01:31] sevenov: Эээ
[20:01:42] sevenov: это я в проблему не вкурил?
[20:02:08] bergamot_: In [17]: memc = memcache.Client('127.0.0.1:1978'); memc.get('a')
Out[17]: 'asd'
[20:02:21] bergamot_: telnet localhost 1978
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[20:02:29] sevenov: аа
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[20:02:58] bergamot_: я до этого этот ключ set'ил
[20:03:09] bergamot_: на другом порту не работает
[20:03:23] bergamot_: хотя работает
[20:03:46] bergamot_: видимо либа клиентская мемкеша еще кеширует
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[20:03:57] bergamot_: In [18]: memc = memcache.Client('127.0.0.1:1928'); memc.get('a')
Out[18]: 'asd'
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[20:57:43] bergamot_: In [32]: ll=[mm.set(key, value) for key, value in db.iteritems()]
MemCached: MemCache: .:11211: connect: Name or service not known. Marking dead.
MemCached: MemCache: 1:11211: connect: Invalid argument. Marking dead

In [33]: ll=[mm.set(key, value) for key, value in db.iteritems()]
[20:58:12] bergamot_: нифига не понимаю, на первый раз из 4к объектов 800 не записались
[20:58:23] bergamot_: на второй - хз сколько, поменьше
[20:58:28] bergamot_: на третий записались все
[20:58:45] bergamot_: хотя наверно гоню
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[21:00:41] piranha: bergamot_: однако, прикольно...
[21:01:16] bergamot_: сообщений этих MemCached иногда бывает десяток, иногда ни одного
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[21:01:46] xa4a: может там какой-то еррор_лог мемкешда?
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[21:03:43] bergamot_: ну сообщения появляются потому что я дебаг включил
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[21:06:36] Мозгошредер: Хы, а Медвед с Ющом все срутся... Совсем я от жизни отстал :)
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[21:06:58] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (кого интересуют офи)
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[21:13:39] bergamot_: жесть, memcache.Client принимает не строку-сервер, а список строк
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[21:14:04] bergamot_: и нихера не предупреждает, неужели я один так тупо подставляюсь?
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[21:19:41] огыешсук: он ещё и возвращает юникодную строку, независимо от того, юникодная ли строка была на входе.
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[21:20:19] огыешсук: Сделал set строки encoded, а после get`а получил юникод. Было неожиданно.
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[22:50:18] feedbot: Фильтрация выпадающих списков http://anger.net.ua/blog/11/
Развертывание django-пректа с sqlite и mod_python http://anger.net.ua/blog/10/
Преобразование типов в javascript http://anger.net.ua/blog/9/
[22:50:21] feedbot: Java integration in future Jython http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9ae4c/java_integration_in_future_jython/
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[22:51:14] sevenov: >Развертывание django-пректа с sqlite и mod_python http://anger.net.ua/blog/10/
Шото ты, фидбот, тупишь. Кагбэ за 13 марта пост.
[22:52:07] piranha: на него ярость напала
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[22:52:47] xa4a: ярость топора?
[22:52:58] piranha: ярость фидборота
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[22:53:05] piranha: *ботора
[22:53:09] sevenov: >http://anger.net.ua/blog/11/
ужааааас
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[22:53:35] sevenov: Не надо было делать Django Foundation
[22:53:47] piranha: чо?
[22:54:40] sevenov: да так
[22:55:22] piranha: надо было сразу себя апстену? )
[22:56:42] sevenov: piranha, зачем? Чтобы не видеть

for car in Car.objects.all():
models[car.id] = [(a.id, a.name) for a in Model.objects.filter(car=car)]

?
[22:57:11] piranha: этто чо такое?
[22:57:19] sevenov: [11:53:14 PM] sevenov: >http://anger.net.ua/blog/11/
ужааааас
[22:57:30] piranha: бляяяяяяя
[22:57:31] piranha: бугага
[22:57:59] sevenov: Вот я и сказал про Foundation )
[22:58:01] piranha: признавайтесь, кто это?
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[22:58:38] sevenov: Просто, когда в названии присутствует Foundation, то проект становится особенно крутым, к нему начинают тянуться особенные, уличные быдлы.
[22:59:00] sevenov: это я так, всю вину скидываю на фаундэйшн
[22:59:09] piranha: ;)
[22:59:14] piranha: http://anger.net.ua/page/about/
[22:59:22] piranha: не катит он на уличное быдло
[22:59:49] sevenov: ну словом "быдло" я обобщил
[23:00:11] sevenov: а уличными выдернул из обобщенного пхпшников
[23:00:22] sevenov: вот какой изврат мозга
[23:00:46] piranha: убедила
[23:00:53] sevenov: ну "большенство" это сильно
[23:00:59] sevenov: может не русский?
[23:01:20] sevenov: Украина
[23:01:43] sevenov: хотя я его понимаю ^^ иногда пиздец как лень у себя же на сайте исправлять ошибки, опечатки
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[23:22:37] slav0nic: http://www.happy-pm.com/blog/?p=2225
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[23:39:33] _lorien: я с ним сегодня общался, он мне патч для pybb прислал
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[23:39:59] _lorien: а, ну и блог его новый, поэтому он попал в фидбота
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