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[12:49:32] yashamhur: чтото грусновато, есть ли здесь люди профессионально программирующие на питоне+джанго (сервер - сайд) ? Лично я пока новичок -любитель
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[12:50:36] Александp: а есть python+django клиент сайд? :-)
[12:50:54] yashamhur: сорри :) сначала другая фраза была
[12:51:12] yashamhur: :)) описался
[12:51:16] slav0nic: тут все школьники-теоретики
[12:51:30] yashamhur: "чорт побьери"
[12:51:33] slav0nic: одна ава лора чего стоит :P
[12:52:01] ufodriver: Все интернеты полны школотой. Не избежал этого и джаббер :-)
[12:52:41] slav0nic: а есл серьёзно, то я не помню тут людей школьного возраста )
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[12:53:42] Александp: кто-нибудь использует django.contrib.sites на запущенных проектах?
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[12:57:07] wiz: я
[12:58:43] Александp: wiz, есть какие-нибудь проблемы с его использованием?
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[12:59:47] slav0nic: люде шепчут, что он убог)
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[12:59:57] Александp: я тут подумываю его использовать, но не хотелось бы, чтобы в один прекрасный момент упёрся в потолок
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[13:00:37] wiz: да вроде нету
[13:00:55] Александp: вообще возникла такая задача, переносить контент с одного саёта на другой
[13:00:56] wiz: там же и кода то в общем нету
[13:00:58] Александp: сайта*
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[13:05:19] yashamhur: люди, а приходится на проектах руки к клиент-сайду прикладывать ? вижу в вакансиях требования доп.скиллов = HTML+CSS+AJAX , да еще ПХП (мой организм отвергает)?
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[13:06:41] slav0nic: абстракный вопрос
[13:07:48] Александp: приходится
[13:07:51] wiz: i accidentally html and php (=
[13:08:27] yashamhur: ясно
[13:08:47] yashamhur: я так и знал , что придется, мир не идеален!!!
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[13:11:05] SV0L0CH: php на сногих хостах успешно заменяются perl-ом
[13:11:59] SV0L0CH: а если там есчё и python стоит, то вообще халява
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[13:35:03] Horus Aximand: Парни, вот есть функция list(), например b = list('string') - преобразует строку в список. Есть функция обратная - нужно преобразовать список из строк в одну строку?
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[13:36:59] Horus Aximand: Спасибо!
[13:37:13] wiz: туториал читал?
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[13:38:01] Horus Aximand: Официальный? Неа) С тех английским не очень
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[13:38:12] _lorien: а зачем строку в список преобразовывать, она ведь и так похоже на список - позволяет итерации делать, обращение по индексу
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[13:39:30] Horus Aximand: Мне так хочется :-[ Ведь я это могу (с)
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[13:43:23] Horus Aximand: Начал pythonchallenge проходить, черт возьми, круто))
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[14:15:31] _lorien: Horus Aximand, ты мноо чего можешь, например, убить об стену :) Но ты это не делаешь, вот я и высказал предположение, что, возможно, разбивать явно строку тебе не надо :)
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[14:16:48] _lorien: а, и вообще это иллюстрация была, по ходу :)
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[14:21:32] Horus Aximand: Просто хотел красиво вывести на экран print "".join(list_seq) :)
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[14:29:31] Большой Лис: молдавские СЕОшнеги, бессмысленные и беспощадные
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[14:32:28] slav0nic: или спецом напсиали, сфоткали. Чтоб всем было интересно глянуть, а что же это за сайт у них такой)
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[14:36:55] Большой Лис: http://ru.euronews.net/nocomment/2009/08/16/ukraine/
[14:36:58] Большой Лис: чо это было?!
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[14:49:14] sevenov: http://pycon.blogspot.com/2009/08/pycon-2010-call-for-proposals.html хотеть
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[14:53:02] slav0nic: да видео всё равно выложат
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"Creator"?..
Deceiver, you are the sinner
I cast you down from your throne of lies
And accuse you of a thousand sins
Perished in the flames of what you call Hell
I proclaim your kingdom as lost forever
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[21:12:13] pzskc383: чуваки, как с трехмерным в виме?
[21:12:27] pzskc383: я вот хочу набросать объектов, поставить камеру и отрендерить
[21:12:37] pzskc383: я сказал в виме? я имел в виду в пайтоне
[21:12:46] xa4a: в виме? О.о
[21:12:51] xa4a: :set dim=3d
[21:12:56] xa4a: в питоне отлично
[21:13:00] xa4a: ogre, или как там
[21:13:06] xa4a: !g python ogre
[21:13:10] pzskc383: в емаксе с 3d наверное давно всё хорошо
[21:13:59] pzskc383: питон и огр. вот жеж зоопарк
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[21:14:28] pzskc383: в основном я всё для блендера находил
[21:14:37] xa4a: по правилам словотворения я бы ещё искал pyopengl
[21:14:59] pzskc383: на голом gl писать
[21:15:00] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (любопытно, не застолбил ли кто ещё python-related имя 'маугли')
[21:15:02] pzskc383: это больно
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[21:15:50] xa4a: /me никогда ничего не писал с 3d, кроме рендерера кубиков на пшп, по молодости-по глупости
[21:16:08] pzskc383: кубики, php, ня
[21:16:13] pzskc383: тоже было лол
[21:16:21] xa4a: pzskc383: у тебя не визуализация данных?
[21:16:30] pzskc383: в универе?
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[21:16:36] pzskc383: а, нет вообще
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[21:17:45] pzskc383: я помню в школе написал программу на лого которая кубики рисовала в ебическом количестве
[21:18:03] xa4a: лого...
[21:18:15] xa4a: это там были команды, типа, square, circle итд?
[21:18:20] pzskc383: да, русский форк какой-то. назывался "лого миры"
[21:18:24] pzskc383: не помню.
[21:18:39] xa4a: ну основная задача у него была рисовательством заниматься?
[21:18:45] xa4a: спрайты там ещё какие-то..
[21:18:53] огыешсук: /me в универе тоже кубики крутил, уж и не помнит на котором языке
[21:18:58] pzskc383: помню черепаху, и команды для поворота, движения и поднимания/опускания пера
[21:19:03] pzskc383: да, рисовательство
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[21:19:26] xa4a: когда-то в меня пытались впихнуть его в "доме пионеров"
[21:19:34] xa4a: на кружке по программированию :\
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[21:25:53] diSabler: hiall. подскажите, почему тред может зависать со статусом initial, хотя явно указан .start() ?
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[21:27:50] xa4a: "со статусом initial"
[21:27:53] xa4a: это как?
[21:28:22] diSabler: <Thread(2009.08.16_22:18:33_msg_<function append_message_to_log at 0xb7e29f44>_781, initial)>
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[21:29:00] diSabler: это кусок вывода threading.enumerate()
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[21:29:57] diSabler: работающие треды показыватся так: <Thread(2009.08.16_22:21:43_msg_<function append_to_idle at 0xb7e29fb4>_344, started)>
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[21:30:58] diSabler: а initial грубо говоря я создал тред но не запустил через .start(), хотя старт прописывается 100%
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[21:34:18] diSabler: ну что, есть мысли? :)
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[21:40:31] xa4a: код, может?
[21:40:35] xa4a: в котором start
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[21:40:40] xa4a: который 100%
[21:40:49] xa4a: т.к. он не вызывается 99%
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[21:44:16] xa4a: попробуй вырезать из кода всё, что не имеет отношения к проблеме, а всё остальное - на dumpz.org
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[22:05:11] slav0nic: http://www.linux.org.ru/view-message.jsp?msgid=3964656
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[22:06:55] xa4a: > И что с того?
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[22:08:56] Большой Лис:
“Knock, knock.”
“Who’s there?”
very long pause….
“Java.”
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[22:24:13] Большой Лис: Saying that Java is nice because it works on every OS is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on every gender.
[22:24:26] wiz: бггг
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[22:27:18] wiz: Большой Лис, тут из зала спрашивают: @h31 Кстати, как там у anal sex с Ж-Ж? То-то же. Не every OS получается
[22:27:36] xa4a: страпон
[22:28:04] wiz: ну вообще да.. как-то так, со страпоном Java и работает
[22:28:14] Большой Лис: :D
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[22:50:42] Большой Лис: If the box says, "This software requires Windows XP or better," does that mean it'll run on linux?
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[23:00:39] Большой Лис: XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve your problem, you're not using enough of it
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[23:03:03] Большой Лис: JIT Happens!
[23:03:06] Большой Лис: хыыыы
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[23:32:02] _lorien: :)
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[23:36:34] tilarids: Большой Лис, :D
[23:36:40] tilarids: откуда это?
[23:36:58] Большой Лис: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/234075/what-is-your-best-programmer-joke
[23:37:20] Большой Лис: 15 страниц гонева
[23:37:22] Большой Лис: %)
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[23:38:05] tilarids: а :)
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[23:50:14] feedbot: Язык программирования Python / Ссылка Про книгу “Django. Разработка веб-приложений на Python” http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/67216/
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