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[00:11:45] Мозгошредер: klichuk, look at __init__.py
[00:11:51] klichuk: окей
[00:12:01] Мозгошредер: всм в optparse
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[00:15:44] klichuk: а аттрибут __all__ в оптпарсе.пай
[00:16:10] klichuk: import * испортирует с тех что есть в етом аттрибуте как елементы спыска
[00:16:21] klichuk: *импортирует
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[08:00:10] feedbot: Язык программирования Python / Простой скрипт для рассылки СМС http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/67810/
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[08:34:03] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[08:59:50] Александp: Пользователи jinja2, подскажите а для каких целей компилится speedups модуль?
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[09:02:56] sevenov: Александp, произнеси вслух "speedups" и пойми.
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[09:04:05] Александp: и только, нет никаких специфических функций?
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[09:04:19] sevenov: а зачем?
[09:04:33] sevenov: можешь без него юзать
[09:04:52] Александp: не хочет
[09:04:55] Александp: sudo python2.5 setup.py install --without-speedups
usage: setup.py [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2 [cmd2_opts] ...]
or: setup.py --help [cmd1 cmd2 ...]
or: setup.py --help-commands
or: setup.py cmd --help

error: option --without-speedups not recognized
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[10:32:36] serpentologist: In [24]: pattern = re.compile(r'[а-яА-Я \d\-_\.]{3,20}')

In [25]: y = 'ля-ля-ля'

In [26]: print pattern.findall(y)[0]
-------> print(pattern.findall(y)[0])
ля-ля-ля

In [27]: y = 'тру-ля-ля'

In [28]: print pattern.findall(y)[0]
-------> print(pattern.findall(y)[0])
-ля-ля

что за мистика?!
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[10:37:09] Typhon: !wtf код
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[10:37:41] Typhon: serpentologist: dumpz.org же
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[10:39:34] serpentologist: ну хорошо: http://dumpz.org/11741/
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[10:43:58] klichuk: http://paste.org.ru/?z3mv0g
[10:44:59] klichuk: юникодная мистика
[10:45:25] klichuk: тебе повезло что оно ля-ля находило ;)
[10:45:33] Муркт: ага
[10:45:43] Муркт: klichuk: только это не мистика :)
[10:45:51] klichuk: конечно не мистика
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[10:46:02] Муркт: хотя для большинства выглядит именно как мистика
[10:46:37] Муркт: интересно, лет через 20-30 будут такие же проблемы с кодировками, или нет?
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[10:47:24] Typhon: все будут говорить на simple english и жить в ASCII мире
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[10:48:24] Муркт: может если там нолик дорисовать
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[10:50:58] Portnov: нуну. Захожу это я в англоязычную комнату, а мне так беспалева - Pryvet!
[10:51:32] klichuk: :)
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[10:52:04] serpentologist: klichuk, сэнкс э лот:) Хотя в ipython какие-то крокозяблы выводятся, но в обычном шелле работает
[10:52:48] klichuk: пробуй искать настройки в ипитоне кодировки
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[10:54:01] Typhon: serpentologist: http://murkt.org.ua/blog/2009/03/08/ipython-unicode-bug/
[10:54:40] klichuk: в прочем
.encode('utf-8') покажет тебе уже не крякозябрами
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[10:57:07] serpentologist: не encode('utf-8') что-то не помогает
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[10:57:38] Муркт: Typhon, serpentologist: то что у меня там написано - работает только на линухе, вроде. В винде тогда всё ломается
[10:58:10] serpentologist: это хорошо, что у меня линь)
[10:58:37] klichuk: pt.findall(u'тру-ля-ля')[0].encode('utf-8') не помогает?
[10:59:11] serpentologist: -лÑ-лÑ
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[11:00:21] klichuk: что у тебя там за кодировка
[11:00:32] Муркт: это утф8 искорёженный
[11:00:33] klichuk: .encode('utf-8').decode('cp1251')
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[11:06:24] serpentologist: поппробывал .decode('cp1251'), .decode('koi8-r') и decode('cp866') - выводит не пойми, что. да и чорт с ним)
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[14:23:32] Izvr: всем привет
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[14:24:49] Izvr: подскажите наиболее удобный способ генерации пдф из шаблонов, с возможностью подставлять туда данные из базы данных к примеру
[14:25:54] Typhon: pisa
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[14:27:39] Izvr: ну её я видел
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[14:28:56] Izvr: вопрос в каком формате проще всего готовить для нее документы
[14:28:58] Typhon: pisa.CreatePDF
[14:29:04] Izvr: да это понятно
[14:29:19] Typhon: render_to_string какой-нибудь, думаю
[14:29:49] Izvr: грубо говоря у меня сейчас есть набор вордовых документов, которые мне необходимо перевести в более вменяемый формат и создать для них формы в базе данных
[14:30:24] Izvr: мне нравится подход к разметке в техе, подгонять html под эту херню мне видится несколько неудобным, или я не прав?
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[14:31:06] Муркт: rest?
[14:31:20] Муркт: вроде sphinx умеет в pdf комплить, нє?
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[14:36:25] Izvr: кхм
[14:36:34] Izvr: а для простых смертных
[14:36:52] Муркт: *компилить
[14:37:01] Муркт: rest - restructured text
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[14:37:12] Муркт: sphinx - по-моему очевидно
[14:37:41] Муркт: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Sphinx
[14:37:47] Typhon: для простых смертных -- отправить на гмейл и посмотреть через него в видел хтмл ^_^
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[14:41:31] Муркт: Typhon: это для действительно непростых смертных
[14:41:59] Izvr: в общем в целом понятно
[14:42:00] Izvr: спасибо
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[15:25:10] feedbot: Слияние DOM-деревьев на Javascript’е http://softwaremaniacs.org/blog/2009/08/24/merging-dom-trees/
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[15:28:08] _lorien: 404
[15:28:45] sevenov: _lorien, ибо удалено ) http://softwaremaniacs.org/blog/2009/08/
[15:28:58] wiz_: а в ридере есть (=
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[15:32:12] nmk: кто-нибудь на keyweb.de хоститься? :)
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[15:34:56] sevenov: nmk, в жопу их
[15:34:59] nmk: а че?
[15:35:00] sevenov: нахуй=нахуй
[15:35:11] sevenov: упоротые
[15:35:20] nmk: ну, конкртика?
[15:35:26] sevenov: nmk, лень.
[15:35:27] nmk: ты не знаешь, там на vpsах ядро 32х битное?
[15:35:40] sevenov: 64
[15:35:52] nmk: так а что упоротые то? я просто хочу взять vps там
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[15:38:13] sevenov: в последний раз, мне не пришло письмо о том, что кончились бабки на счете и нужно пополнить. Вырубили сервер. Когда попросил их отдать дампы, которые складывались на второй, ответили, что я - хуй, ничего не отдадут. Плати.
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[15:39:02] nmk: ну епт. так можно многих упоротыми называть
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[15:42:36] wiz_: ну а как их ещё назвать?
[15:42:51] wiz_: впрочем это ж .de, там имхо все такие
[15:44:08] nmk: так а где еще можно дешево взять vps? :)
[15:46:12] sevenov: nmk, дешево и качественно -- это сказка.
[15:46:27] wiz_: nmk, http://localhost/
[15:46:51] nmk: ну слуш, если все твои пробелмы на keywebе были только в том, что бы не положил бабки на счет, и они вырубили сервер, то как бы я считаю это нормально.
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[15:47:14] sevenov: nmk, >не пришло письмо
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[15:47:47] sevenov: слайсхост мне каждый день начинает писать о том, что скоро должны кончиться деньги и было бы хорошо пополнить.
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[15:47:50] nmk: ну да, понимаю. но я как-то стараюсь сам следить за всеми своими платежами, будь то домены, сервера, мобильники.
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[15:48:19] wiz_: /me вообще зарёкся иметь дело с немцами
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[15:48:40] nmk: wiz_: почему? :)
[15:48:53] wiz_: весь моск сожрут
[15:48:59] sevenov: nmk, кстати, на удивление, сайты на том же слайсхосте открываются шустрее, чем на сервере в кейвебе. А вдс, так тем более.
[15:49:02] wiz_: во всяком случае в entry level
[15:49:32] wiz_: нечеловеческое отношение к клиентам
[15:50:21] nmk: охх...
[15:50:27] nmk: я ж мучаться теперь буду
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[17:48:25] _lorien: keyweb? Есть ru, а есть de
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[17:49:13] Хрюндель: Муркт, скажи, ты в джанге когда нибудь в базу данных пиклил?
[17:49:21] Муркт: да.
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[17:50:04] Хрюндель: Муркт, вот тут у меня небольшая проблема.. Пытаюсь пиклинуть через pickle.dumps() и потом достать через pickle.loads() а говорит *** KeyError: '\x00'
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[17:50:19] Муркт: хз.
[17:50:23] Хрюндель: ыыы
[17:50:29] Хрюндель: а может поле какое специальное надо?
[17:50:32] Муркт: ты мускул используешь?
[17:50:36] Хрюндель: да
[17:50:41] Муркт: вот и ответ
[17:50:53] Хрюндель: Муркт, а решение есть у этого?
[17:50:55] Муркт: "я знал!" (с)
[17:51:00] Муркт: поставь постгрес
[17:51:08] _lorien: и java
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[17:51:18] Муркт: _lorien: при чём тут джава?
[17:51:22] Хрюндель: Муркт, я понимаю, у тебя хорошее настроение и ты любишь пошутить.. но я серьёзно
[17:51:35] _lorien: Муркт, ни при чём :)
[17:51:36] Муркт: Хрюндель: я серьёзно. Я использовал постгрес, и у меня проблем не было
[17:51:50] Муркт: по феерической ошибке я сразу понял, в чём дело :D
[17:52:15] Муркт: Хрюндель: как вариант - можешь дампить джейсон, а не пикл. Если бы я сейчас делал, то дампил бы в джейсон
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[17:52:32] Хрюндель: Муркт, во... вот это уже больше на решение похоже
[17:52:34] Хрюндель: спасибо
[17:52:46] _lorien: * ни причём
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[17:53:25] _lorien: Мы строим крыши, но крыши здесь совсем ни причём. И я решаюсь навстречу сделать шаг. Я улыбаюсь – мне даже дождь не враг.
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[17:53:35] _lorien: (с) yandex
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[17:54:42] Муркт: _lorien: бля
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[17:54:58] Муркт: _lorien: я теперь не знаю как правильно - "ни при чём" или "ни причём", ты сломал мой моск
[17:55:18] Муркт: по-моему всё-таки первый вариант правильный
[17:55:22] _lorien: я думаю последнее т.к. написав первое я стал соменваться )
[17:55:30] Муркт: нет
[17:55:31] _lorien: хотя второе тоже криво выглядит )
[17:55:42] Муркт: "ни при чём"
[17:55:55] Муркт: слово "причём" существует, но используется в других случаях
[17:56:11] Муркт: НИ ПРИ ЧЁМ предикатив разг.
[17:56:13] _lorien: ну да, первое - 180млн, второе - 40
[17:56:21] Муркт: http://gramota.ru/slovari/dic/?word=%ED%E8+%EF%F0%E8+%F7%B8%EC&all=x
[17:56:41] _lorien: ок :)
[17:56:46] _lorien: Хрюндель, всё понял? ))
[17:57:00] Хрюндель: _lorien, да.. делаю через json
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[17:58:38] Хрюндель: работает
[17:58:40] Хрюндель: круто
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[17:59:40] sevenov: правильный вариант "ни при чём".
[18:00:31] Муркт: sevenov: мы уже решили.
[18:01:17] sevenov: Муркт, я сгенерировал ответ читая лог, но не до конца.
[18:01:24] sevenov: Дада, я слоупук, и что?
[18:01:29] Муркт: окей
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[18:06:55] _lorien: слоупук - кто это?
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[18:07:30] cutwater: _lorien, lurkmore://slowpoke
[18:07:44] _lorien: не могу, нет сил )
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[18:08:07] Муркт: =)))
[18:08:19] Муркт: _lorien: это же по названию очевидно
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[18:08:36] Муркт: http://lurkmore.ru/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BA
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[18:09:59] Муркт: http://s.lurkmore.ru/images/b/b0/OC.jpg ЫЫ
[18:10:01] _lorien: :)
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[18:29:03] wiz: http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=23134
[18:29:26] GrimbleGromble: http://dumpz.org/11750/ и этот человек курирует переход с php на django, после этого стает понятно почему наш местный трэкер работает через одно место :)
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[18:31:51] Пика-пика-чуууу: GrimbleGromble, а шо? Красявааа.
[18:32:06] Пика-пика-чуууу: особенно "#нету тут голосования."
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[18:32:29] SV0L0CH is now думаю, как сгенерировать дофигища однотипных интерфейсов на плюсах
[18:32:41] wiz: адово...
[18:33:10] GrimbleGromble: смотреть может и красяво, а мне этот ****** надо переписывать
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[18:34:03] Пика-пика-чуууу: 20-29 -- самое php-like
[18:34:44] Пика-пика-чуууу: 5 запросов - сильно.
[18:34:44] qrezy is now googol.
[18:34:46] qrezy: в my.cnf как называется директивы отвечающая за подключение с внешних ip
[18:35:14] Пика-пика-чуууу: строки 37-39 особенно доставили
[18:35:32] Пика-пика-чуууу: qrezy, postgresql вроде бы.
[18:35:35] Пика-пика-чуууу: ггг
[18:36:20] qrezy: Пика-пика-чуууу: в MySQL
[18:37:17] GrimbleGromble: да тут весь такой код, я неделю отходил прежде чем начать все это переписывать, хоть сразу все кидай на govnokod.ru
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[18:41:08] Пика-пика-чуууу: GrimbleGromble, ну ты не переписывай, а пиши с нуля этот же функционал.
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[18:44:48] wiz: та ёпт, что там писать то?
[18:44:54] wiz: это ж генерик обычный
[18:46:27] unk2k: как посмотреть какие методы есть в переменной которая находится в шаблоне ?
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[18:46:47] unk2k: т.е. {{ form.field }} !!!!=== print dir(form.field)
[18:47:07] unk2k: мне надо получить value поля
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[18:49:20] wiz: в документацию по формам загляни
[18:49:44] unk2k: только от туда
[18:50:15] wiz: /me включает телепатические способности
[18:50:21] wiz: form.field.initial попробуй
[18:50:41] unk2k: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/#looping-over-the-form-s-fields
[18:50:58] Stanislav Pugachev: причем тут формы вообще
[18:51:02] unk2k: непрошло
[18:51:15] unk2k: а причем тут утюги ?
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[18:51:37] Stanislav Pugachev: ну ты спрашиваешь про то какие методы есть у переменной
[18:51:46] Stanislav Pugachev: потом про какие то поля начинаешь
[18:51:47] unk2k: default value инпута как получить ?
[18:52:04] Stanislav Pugachev: жаваскриптом
[18:52:05] Stanislav Pugachev: )
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[18:52:18] unk2k: Stanislav Pugachev, какая разница в моем вопросе, будт это форма или обычная переменная. ??
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[18:52:31] wiz: form.initial.field ещё может быть - уточни в доках
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[18:53:22] unk2k: ппец. я над джангой офигеваю =) какую то срань типа получения value - сидишь и мучаешся, а вот как сделать сложную обработку форм или создания таблиц - 5 минут.
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[18:53:40] cutwater: может надо доки читать?
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[18:53:57] cutwater: странно что я пока не офигевал
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[18:54:18] unk2k: cutwater, все мы разные ;)
[18:54:25] unk2k: wiz, нет, это вообще не там.
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[18:55:13] Stanislav Pugachev: я чот не пойму вообще. ты форму ведь сам определял. и ты не знаешь какое там указано дефолтное значение для поля?
[18:55:23] Stanislav Pugachev: и не можешь посмотреть?
[18:55:55] unk2k: Stanislav Pugachev, хешь, 32 символа, всегда разный
[18:56:11] unk2k: Stanislav Pugachev, незнаю какой будет следующий.
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[18:56:38] Stanislav Pugachev: ну запихни его отедльной переменной в контекст
[18:56:48] Stanislav Pugachev: fast and dirty
[18:57:07] unk2k: он у меня в форма создается
[18:57:16] unk2k: как я его в форму то передам
[18:57:20] unk2k: ладно, забей.
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[18:57:31] unk2k: дольше обьеснять -) сейчас сам решу
[18:57:34] unk2k: спасибто\
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[18:58:10] wiz: "дольше обьеснять - сейчас сам решу" -- почаще бы слышать тут эту фразу (ж
[18:58:26] Stanislav Pugachev: чего тогда приходил спрашивается )
[18:58:34] wiz: за вдохновением наверно (=
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[18:59:06] unk2k: думал что я делаю что то не так, оказалось "Django"
[18:59:43] Stanislav Pugachev: я бы не был таким категоричным )
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[19:00:09] Stanislav Pugachev: у меня обычно таки оказвыается что я чтото делаю не так
[19:00:56] unk2k: сделал проще
[19:01:05] unk2k: запихал хешь еще в label
[19:01:29] Stanislav Pugachev: хакер?)
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[19:02:03] unk2k: идея ясна ?
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[19:02:14] Stanislav Pugachev: неа )). я даже задачу не понял )
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[19:04:08] unk2k: и мое глубокое имхо что так как я сделал есть обсалютно неправельно и не итично.
задча, есть input type=hidden с хешом от капчи и есть ссылка на картинку /captcha/HASH_HERE/ нужно было
{{ form.captcha_hesh }}
и <img src="/captcha/{{ form.captcha_hesh.value }}/"> но т.к. .value нету, я сделал так <img src="/captcha/{{ form.captcha_hesh.label_tag }}/">
а в коде выглядит так
captcha_hesh = forms.CharField(max_length=30, widget=forms.HiddenInput(attrs={'value': hash}), label=hash, required=False)
и имхо это через зад.
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[19:06:18] Typhon: !g django captcha
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[19:07:37] Stanislav Pugachev: самописная капча у тебя чтоли?
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[19:07:56] Stanislav Pugachev: самописная - это уже через зад )
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[19:09:15] Пика-пика-чуууу: unk2k,
1) неправильно
2) неэтично
3) абсолютно
4) хэшем
по запятым промолчу.
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[19:12:18] unk2k: Пика-пика-чуууу, я почему то вижу свои ошибки только после опубликования\
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[19:13:16] Stanislav Pugachev: да ну) придираться к ошибкам на просторам интернета неправильно и неэтично. абсолютно) хэшем
[19:13:41] Typhon: "на просторах" ;)
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[19:14:00] Stanislav Pugachev: просторах
[19:14:13] Stanislav Pugachev: к очепяткам тоже придираться некрасиво!)
[19:15:00] Stanislav Pugachev: pylons гавно!
[19:15:05] Stanislav Pugachev: вот )
[19:15:10] Stanislav Pugachev: накипело
[19:16:07] wiz: что, надкусил пилончиков?
[19:16:10] Typhon: http://pylons.istheshit.net/
[19:16:13] wiz: а я ещё по запаху это понял (=
[19:16:19] Stanislav Pugachev: да пиздец
[19:16:28] Stanislav Pugachev: хочу обратно в джангу
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[19:19:50] Stanislav Pugachev: Typhon, чота картинку неосили ) даже как старкрафтер)
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[20:37:39] serpentologist: http://django.istheshit.net/
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[20:37:59] serpentologist: что это за сайт вообще?
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[20:38:17] e4key.inbox: привет всем
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[20:38:37] e4key.inbox is now Yep, I'm here.
[20:38:45] e4key.inbox: а что за проблема
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[20:38:52] e4key.inbox: не могу обработать исключение
[20:39:05] erraen is now online
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[20:39:09] e4key.inbox: делаю конект через urllib.urlopen с прокси
[20:39:22] e4key.inbox: если прокси не работает, то ошибка
[20:39:24] wiz: код на dumpz.org и ссылку сюда
[20:39:32] e4key.inbox: и наплевать на try/except =/
[20:39:33] wiz: а то ещё год будешь так рассказывать
[20:40:13] Пика-пика-чуууу: wiz, это же загадка, так веселее
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[20:40:40] пупка-гоп: serpentologist, >Django is the shit!
[20:40:42] пупка-гоп: написано же
[20:41:00] e4key.inbox: http://dumpz.org/11751/
[20:41:01] e4key.inbox: вот
[20:41:02] пупка-гоп: этот сайт сделал или я, или пиранья.
[20:41:19] e4key.inbox: в except выбирается новый проксик и заново пытаемся получить страницу
[20:41:33] пупка-гоп: e4key.inbox, шикааарно. Кидай весь кусок. Вместе с except
[20:41:34] Муркт: пупка-гоп: откуда такая уверенность?
[20:41:45] Муркт: а
[20:41:46] пупка-гоп: Муркт, пыщь. В чем?
[20:41:58] serpentologist: http://jhgjhgjhgjhg.istheshit.net/
[20:42:02] Муркт: > этот сайт сделал или я, или пиранья.
[20:42:22] пупка-гоп: Муркт, ну Django is the shit же.
[20:42:25] Муркт: ага
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[20:42:37] пупка-гоп: Муркт, может и ты, ага ;)
[20:42:40] Муркт: я когда сказал "а" - глянул выше и понял о чём
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[20:42:44] пупка-гоп: а
[20:42:53] пупка-гоп: мы же уже решили, что я слоупок.
[20:42:56] Муркт: пупка-гоп: нет, я нет. Я с джангой не работал уже довольно довно
[20:43:03] serpentologist: django вполне сносный. Вот dojo - это да
[20:43:04] пупка-гоп: Муркт, везунчик.
[20:43:17] Муркт: пупка-гоп: я уже давненько ни с чем не работал =))
[20:43:21] e4key.inbox: ))) вот с except http://dumpz.org/11752/
[20:43:25] пупка-гоп: serpentologist, пиздец. Самолет вполне сносный, а Москва - это да.
[20:43:29] Муркт: пупка-гоп: впрочем, если хочешь подробностей - в приват
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[20:43:45] serpentologist: :D
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[20:44:02] serpentologist: так и есть
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[20:47:43] пупка-гоп: serpentologist, да? Ну в один самый крупный боинг не влезут столько шаверм.
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[20:48:05] e4key.inbox: ну что никто не знает?((
[20:48:32] serpentologist: дык это хорошо, что не влезут - поэтому он и сносный
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[20:52:51] Typhon: serpentologist, http://seprentologist.istheshit.net/
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[20:54:25] serpentologist: у меня есть своя страничка в интернетах)
[20:55:17] пупка-гоп: serpentologist, да, и даже не хуйня какая-то.
[20:55:29] пупка-гоп: а дерьмо.
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[20:56:05] serpentologist: ну это уже вопросы к разработчикам, почему дерьмо, а не хуйня
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[21:25:10] feedbot: SciPy 2009 Conference Videos http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9dodn/scipy_2009_conference_videos/
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[21:25:17] pymonk: как там в киеве ?? на параде кто был?
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[21:30:07] pymonk: ну не загорать же постоянно за мониторами?)
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[21:30:41] Муркт: погода была нерасполагающая
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[21:30:57] SV0L0CH: загорать лутше на пляже... через пару дней надо будет сходить, когда насморк пройдёт
[21:31:31] SV0L0CH: с утра погода была располагающая, но к вечеру я передумал
[21:31:39] пупка-гоп: SV0L0CH, да, лутше.
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[21:32:51] pymonk: а у нас в чернигове все ишло к дождю целый день) и так не дошло) ну и я не дошел на площадь)
[21:33:58] Муркт: /me посмотрел на своё загоревшее пузо
[21:34:04] Муркт: монитор не нужен
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[21:34:33] pymonk: *пузо не нужно, ибо пиво зло)
[21:34:56] Муркт: живот, если тебе так понятнее
[21:35:05] Муркт: у меня он плоский
[21:35:53] pymonk: ну пузо у меня асоциируется с пивным животом)
[21:36:15] Муркт: окей, замени "пузо" на "мускулистый пресс"
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[21:36:21] Сиська: /me плоская
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[21:36:54] pymonk: (( а у меня мускулы только на лысине
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[21:37:02] pymonk: ну и на лбу немного)
[21:37:48] Муркт: у меня и лысины нет
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[21:37:52] Portnov: /me попытался представить упражнения для накачивания мышц на лысине
[21:38:08] Portnov: и специальные тренажёры.
[21:38:24] Муркт: ыыы
[21:38:38] Муркт: я умею двигать кожей на черепе
[21:38:40] Муркт: скальпом
[21:38:43] Муркт: =))
[21:38:47] pymonk: и ушами?))
[21:38:50] Муркт: и ушами
[21:38:59] Сиська: Муркт, скальпелем )
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[21:39:15] Муркт: Сиська: нет, двигаю мышцами, а не скальпелем
[21:39:25] Муркт: ну и ник у тебя сейчас
[21:39:27] Сиська: /me умеет жмякаться
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[21:39:41] pymonk: Скальпелем можно быстро накачать сиськи)
[21:39:44] Мышца: /me тоже умеет жмякаться
[21:39:47] Муркт: /me растянул Мышцу
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[21:41:44] Мышкa: /me хочет накачаться, как Мышца.
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[21:42:02] Мышкa: /me просит накачать ее допингом.
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[21:42:53] pymonk: кто то не плохо сегодня дунул?)
[21:43:01] Муркт: pymonk: просто он трезвый
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[21:43:28] pymonk: трезвость в наше время это недостаток) с которым почти все усилено борються)
[21:43:47] Мышкa: Муркт, дааа, я уже не торт. Трезый.
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[21:44:17] Муркт: pymonk: ну, я не сказал бы
[21:44:35] Муркт: /me спрятал пустую бутылку из-под пива под стол
[21:45:02] pymonk: а говорить не надо , надо с этим бороться)
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[22:29:27] Мышкa: Эй, чочо. Конфа снова уныла?
[22:29:40] Муркт: тебе привата не хватает, зайка?
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[22:31:34] Мышкa: Муркт, ггг.
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[22:37:25] xa4a: сваливать из города на выходные - божественно
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[22:38:09] pymonk: ) последнее время все больше и больше людей стремятся слинять с города )
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[22:39:31] Муркт: /me в город ездит только на работу и погулять в центре
[22:39:42] Муркт: на работу/учёбу/etc
[22:39:53] xa4a: за городом - три дня природы, палаток, скал
[22:42:32] pymonk: у америкосов не плохо заведено , живут загородом а на работу ездят в город)
[22:42:56] Муркт: у нас тоже так можно
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[22:43:15] Муркт: но это заёб, говорю вам как тот, кто уже четыре года так делает
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[22:44:24] pymonk: ну у нас так тоже мона делать, но это у нас не так масово как у них
[22:44:33] Муркт: не так
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[22:45:22] pymonk: хотя , я живу в спальном районе и контора в 15 минутах хотьбы)
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[22:46:40] SV0L0CH: ездить... мне такое не нравится... вот жить рядом с работой или работать дома совсем другое
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[22:48:02] xa4a: стоп. зачем я вернулся?
[22:48:15] pymonk: я хотя и рядом с работой живу , всеравно как то тянет жить дето за городом в тишине))
[22:48:22] pymonk: вернулся? запивом?
[22:48:45] xa4a: пиво? нах пиво. на костре - чай с головешкой 8)
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[22:51:40] pymonk: с чем чай?))
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[23:14:45] jedgar: сделали бы вне городов скоростной доступный инет...
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