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[00:25:08] feedbot: PyPy Status Blog: PyPy gets a new compiler http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9e0ug/pypy_status_blog_pypy_gets_a_new_compiler/
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[00:57:06] gigimon: подскажите замену jquery.form, чтобы форму и файлы отправлять умела и получать json ответ, или все же придется юзать 2 плагина jquery.form и ajaxfileupload, как-то их объединяя?


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[01:25:05] feedbot: Действительно хорошая книга http://django-newbie.blogspot.com/2009/08/blog-post_26.html
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[05:27:27] _lorien: http://prodjango.com/ - а есть у кого в електрическом виде?
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[09:05:09] RaD: камрады-джанговоды, расскажите секрет, почему джанго орет UnicodeError на:
return { 'page_title': u'%s %s' % (_(u'Category'), category.title) }
если есть кошерный файл переводов
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[09:18:00] RaD: не, проблема была в _(u'Category'), где _ это сокращение от gettext_lazy
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[10:04:56] лорд Морфий: Ж))))) [12:02:59] *** PC заходит как участник и член - хы-хы-хы
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[10:27:52] лорд Морфий: я себе щас zabbix для таких случаев пробуюу, забавно в 2 часа ночи смску получить, а пропаже пинга :)))
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[13:08:37] e4key.inbox: привет народ
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[13:08:56] e4key.inbox: а какие атрибуты нужны чтоб файл открывался на запись но не удалялось содержимое его?
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[13:11:33] mishok13: open(path, 'a')
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[13:11:43] mishok13: 'a+' -- для записи и чтения
[13:11:51] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (я так и написал)
[13:11:56] mishok13: (в доке написано)
[13:12:19] e4key.inbox: сенкс =)
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[14:54:26] nmk: а у кого какой виндов менеджер?
[14:54:34] nmk: дебиановцы тут походу совсем ебнулись, и в testing засунили kde 4
[14:55:10] tilarids: kde != window manager
[14:55:13] RaD: kde4 достал, это факт
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[14:56:49] nmk: tilarids: kwin, ok
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[14:57:04] tilarids: nmk, так уже лучше :)
[14:57:10] SV0L0CH: nmk: пусть в тестинге полежит, рано его доставать
[14:57:31] tilarids: так а что, в четвертых кедах kwin какой-то особый?
[14:57:42] nmk: да четвертые кеды нах просто
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[14:58:27] wiz_: вот вторые были это да... всем кедам кеды, даже на фре патчились, не то, что 4е
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[14:58:48] tilarids: nmk, ну, начни не замечать кеды
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[14:58:59] tilarids: поставь себе gnome и забудь, что это такое - четвертые кеды
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[14:59:10] nmk: не. какой еще гном в пизду
[14:59:18] nmk: я кде хочу. 3ку.
[14:59:22] nmk: вот думаю как её поставить.
[14:59:36] tilarids: nmk, ну, тогда удачи и не жалуйся
[14:59:38] SV0L0CH: nmk: есть kdemod
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[15:00:20] mishok13: awesome ставь
[15:00:35] mishok13: клёвая же вещь, верняк
[15:00:50] nmk: mishok13: не. я с такими не умею дружить.
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[15:00:55] mishok13: :)
[15:01:15] nmk: у меня всю жизнь были windowmaker, потом то ли balckbox, то ли openbox, потом 3и кде. и я к ним привык. а тут на тебе 4ые.
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[15:01:27] nmk: я даже поставил их вчера.
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[15:01:31] nmk: но это что-то с чем-то
[15:01:34] mishok13: fluxbox/openbox ведь нормальные
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[15:01:50] nmk: нормальные. но я немножко большего хочу
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[15:03:18] nmk: xfce может какой поглядеть
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[15:04:04] nmk: если кто-нибудь скажет как поставить kde 3 в testing буду благодарен. я понимаю, что надо stable добавить и запинить что-то там. :)
[15:04:56] _lorien: ну, если kde3 есть в testing, то просто пропиши путь до testing в sources.list и ставь )
[15:05:17] nmk: он есть в stable
[15:05:34] nmk: но в testing kde уже заменен на kde4
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[15:08:42] nmk: не понимает, чего все пиндосы пруться с kde4
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[17:00:09] feedbot: Prime testing with regexp http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9eb71/prime_testing_with_regexp/
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[17:19:49] zololo1: Добрый день, кто имел опыт с Google App Engine, не знаете, почему их пример с urlfetch работает у меня на компьютере, а когда загружаю проект к ним на сервер, то вместо результата urlfetch ничего не получаю?
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[17:23:52] _lorien: м.б. грузишь с localhost? :D
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[17:27:56] GrimbleGromble: какой status_code выдает?
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[17:28:37] _lorien: выяснил причину, почему у меня второй раз сайты падают на сервере - место кончилось в root :)
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[17:30:54] pymonk: _lorien, может быть в корне-/ ты имел ввиду?)
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[17:31:22] _lorien: да, /
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[17:51:15] unk2k: Приветствую джангогуры, вопрос такой, у меня есть модель с 140 полями. мне ее надо отрендерить в форму. я делаю так
class CompanyForm(forms.ModelForm):
class Meta:
model = Company
как мне ко всем ее элементам привязать один css класс ?
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[17:52:40] Typhon: >_<
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[17:53:05] wiz: omfg
[17:53:18] unk2k: wiz ?
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[17:53:40] wiz: select, input, textarea { style: foo; }
[17:54:10] unk2k: это где надо прописать ?
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[17:55:33] wiz: э
[17:55:37] wiz: в css
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[17:57:37] unk2k: ясно. спасибо.
[17:57:46] unk2k: видимо тут меня за конченного дебила держут.
[17:57:52] unk2k: имхо я просил иной способ
[17:58:01] unk2k: через forms.ModelForm
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[18:00:27] _lorien: в __init__ формы надо каждому полю настроить его attrs аргумент или как там его
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[18:00:58] Lolka: так unk2k плачется, что полей 140 штук)
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[18:01:06] wiz: unk2k, можно через форму, но нафига?
[18:01:11] Lolka: кстати, нафига, простите, такая модель, ну блин)
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[18:02:04] unk2k: Lolka, надо ;)
[18:02:12] unk2k: Lolka, коротко и доступно
[18:02:21] Lolka: unk2k: это пример предельно денормализированной БД?))
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[18:04:22] Lolka: нет, честно, ума не приложу, я с базами всякими и разными работал, но такого не видел
[18:04:43] _lorien: ето первый блин комом :)
[18:04:49] _lorien: первый блин в коме :)
[18:05:07] Lolka: по крайней мере, видел чтобы большое кол-во полей, не основных, просто сериализировали
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[18:05:09] unk2k: епт. задача простая нужно по каждой компании хранить 3 её адреса. в адрес входит 19 полей.
[18:05:15] unk2k: + еще доп инфа.
[18:05:36] Lolka: какая увлекательная математика, блин...)
[18:05:37] wiz: unk2k, чем тебя способ с css не устраивает?
[18:05:44] wiz: вроде всё тривиально
[18:05:48] unk2k: да
[18:05:51] unk2k: несовсем
[18:05:55] unk2k: ладно спасибо за время
[18:05:58] unk2k: я сам покопаюсь
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[18:06:15] unk2k: собственно решил задачу через css но хотел через модельформ
[18:07:12] GrimbleGromble: не совсем пойму что тебе надо, но отсюда ничего не подходит http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/media/#topics-forms-media ?
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[18:24:16] unk2k: я создаю модель и мне нужно что бы когда я написал ./manage syncdb создалась модель и в нее поместились мои данные из моего SQL файла. где про это почитать (помню что есть не помню где)
[18:25:04] unk2k: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/initial-data/#providing-initial-sql-data
[18:25:06] unk2k: спасибо
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[18:27:51] cutwater: unk2k, вообще 140 полей в модели это бред
[18:27:58] cutwater: не хочешь пересмотреть проектирование своей бд?
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[18:29:31] unk2k: хочу
[18:29:36] unk2k: знаю как
[18:29:39] unk2k: знаю что это долго
[18:29:41] unk2k: и боюсь
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[18:32:02] cutwater: :-D
[18:32:08] cutwater: это псец
[18:32:27] unk2k: серьезно боюсь
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[20:18:14] tilarids: как я понимаю, один QuerySet не может содержать объекты разных типов?
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[20:19:54] gigimon: извините за тупой вопрос, а можно ли как-то узнать, запрос сделан черещ JS или нет?

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[20:25:35] gigimon: и подскажите линк в мануал, где опсиывается как 1 модель к нескольким разным подключить, типа: модель статьи и модель кинги, к ним подключить модель комментарий
[20:26:11] slav0nic: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/request-response/#django.http.HttpRequest.is_ajax
[20:26:16] slav0nic: 2 вопрос тупой
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[20:28:47] gigimon: slav0nic: спасибо :)
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[20:33:27] Александp: gigimon, django.contrib.contenttypes
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[20:34:31] gigimon: Александp: не, slav0nic указал

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[20:34:37] gigimon: почему-то джанго поиск по сайту не нашел по слову ajax
[20:34:45] gigimon: Александp: мне б еще вторйо вопрос
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[20:34:52] gigimon: а то тож в доке не могу найти :(
[20:34:57] Александp: я по второму и ответил :-)
[20:35:01] gigimon: эм
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[20:35:46] Александp: через контент тайпы можно прицепить комментарии к любым объектам
[20:36:44] gigimon: брр, а больше никак?
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[20:38:00] Александp: я видимо вопрос не так понял
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[20:42:22] slav0nic: gigimon, чё ты хочешь сделать? читай доку по комментариям
[20:42:37] gigimon: комментарии были для примера
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[20:42:52] gigimon: просто такая же аналогия)
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[20:43:53] tilarids: вопрос №2, возможно, также останется без ответа. Чем плохо изменять стандартное поведение RelatedManager? Например, изменить поведение get. Что это может сломать из стандартных и ожидаемых фич?
[20:44:30] sevenov: Хм. У пираньи вчера вроде бы д/р было. Поздравляли? )
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