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[02:46:24] gigimon: подскажите по jquery, имеется список <ul> в нем есть <li>, по нажатию на <li> надо узнать его индекс

[02:46:49] gigimon: как такое сделать?:( сижу гуглю уже час

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[02:52:26] bobry: что мешает при рендеринге их как нибудь по хитрому маркировать?
[02:55:25] gigimon: ну... как?)
[02:55:55] bobry: ну не знаю в id засовывать номер <li>
[02:56:16] gigimon: гм


[02:57:22] bobry: первое что приходит в голову) ну или в любой другой атрибут, уверен что на JS можно вычислить номер тоже, но я чето не соображу как)
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[02:58:32] gigimon: да я вот тож думаю можно...
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[03:01:23] gigimon: ладно, может кто утром подскажет

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[03:26:19] sevenov: bobry, на js можно все, что угодно
[03:26:38] sevenov: на то оп он прототипный оо яп
[03:27:02] bobry: я в него верил)
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[04:58:00] Imbolc: Есть кто живой тут?
Как в decimal ограничить количество цифр после запятой?
Вроде getcontext().prec = 2, но не пашет так.
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[07:00:11] feedbot: Scratch.py -- hyper-fast mini-webapp production, in Python http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9ewck/scratchpy_hyperfast_miniwebapp_production_in/
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[09:40:23] Ляпатяпа: Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com
Сначала поищи ответ на http://docs.python.org/ и http://google.com/
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[09:41:01] Ляпатяпа: а я таки воткнул арч + авесоме
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[09:45:28] RaD: [django] есть форма, унаследованная от базовой, надо замочить ненужные поля (так вышло), сижу туплю
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[11:41:48] StormChild: пишу контроллер. для сериализируемых методов нужно, чтобы количество аргументов в методах и их имена были заданы. я хочу сделать один общий контроллер для всех моделей бд, класс контроллера генерится динамически, в методах в качестве параметров стоят *args.
как можно указать методу количество и имена переменных?
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[11:50:08] xa4a: м...м?
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[11:50:30] xa4a: *args -> args
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[11:50:38] xa4a: и внутри метода уже распаковывать
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[11:50:52] xa4a: если я понял, что ты хочешь
[11:51:08] StormChild: у меня есть такое:

def make_controller(param_names)
class controller:
@classmethod
def get(*args) :
#тут идет работа с базой данных
pass
return controller

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[11:52:00] StormChild: дял сериализации нужно, чтобы в get были точно указаны аргументы, с их именами.
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[11:53:06] StormChild: то есть этот в *args нужно перед использованием контроллера явно прописать param_names
[11:53:36] StormChild: можно это сделать за классом, отдельно дял каждого объекта, но не хочется :)
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[11:53:57] xa4a: передавай все аргументы одним туплом
[11:54:04] xa4a: ..такой вот костыль можно..
[11:55:22] StormChild: это как вариант, да.. только это соап-контроллер на soaplib, там простой сериализации списков нету.
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[11:57:06] StormChild: либо стринги/инты/.. и массивы, либо объекты с элементами одного типа. описывать args объектом с опять же не заданными свойствами геморно будет
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[12:07:43] xa4a: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9cnaw/multiline_lambdas_in_python_using_the_with/ круто
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[12:28:20] yegor-kowalew: Здравствуйте ребята, выручайте, не могу поставить setuptools 0.6c9 консоль на команду python easy_install.py говорит error: No urls, filenames, or requirements specified (see --help)
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[12:28:33] kompasq: Здраствуйте
[12:28:47] yegor-kowalew: хотя на сайте написано что если хотите ставить в папки по умолчанию то ненада ничего прописывать
[12:29:09] kompasq: Как можно из питона запустить сразу несколько приложений?
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[12:33:01] RaD: поочереди :)
[12:33:22] kompasq: не вариант...
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[12:33:42] yegor-kowalew: у меня все просто не могу для питона поставить setuptools 0.6c9
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[12:35:28] RaD: python setup.py install обычно помогает
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[12:35:51] RaD: kompasq: судя по постановке вопроса, тебе это не нужно
[12:36:08] kompasq: действительно? :)
[12:36:40] StormChild: kompasq: можно использовать потоки :)
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[12:49:01] kompasq: _lorien, спасибо :)
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[12:51:57] yegor-kowalew: вопрос снимаю, всем спасибо за внимание, допер своими
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[13:00:11] gigimon: спрошу тут еще раз :) есть список ul, надо при нажатии на его li узнавать ее индекс/номер в ul
[13:00:29] gigimon: что-нибудь помимо установки номера в id при создании li есть?)
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[13:02:09] StormChild: у каждого элемента есть this
[13:02:31] gigimon: и считать индекс?
[13:02:38] gigimon: логично, спс
[13:02:49] StormChild: ну да, если current_li == this
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[13:42:31] slav0nic: http://pit.dirty.ru/dirty/1/2009/08/28/18324-134617-9367b3a5d13ffbcc6a7fc7e9334a5666.jpg
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[13:44:07] gigimon: StormChild: а подскажи, как это this проверить? а?:)
[13:44:09] gigimon: пожалуйста)
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[13:46:18] StormChild: gigimon: onclick="f(this)"
function f(obj) {
ul = document.getElementById('my_ul')
//зедсь перебираются все элементы ul и сравниваются с obj
[13:46:21] StormChild: как-то так
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[13:46:45] gigimon: попытаюсь додумать)
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[14:00:11] feedbot: AskPython: What Python book do you recommend? http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9eztn/askpython_what_python_book_do_you_recommend/
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[14:02:53] yegor-kowalew: ребята никто не сталкивался с магазином django-lfs??? Интересует перевод его на русский язык. гуглосерчинг ничего не дает
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[14:04:18] RaD: moiluch.ru - вот русский
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[14:08:45] RaD: а ничего так магазинчик, не хуже моего:
[14:10:25] _lorien: двоеточие подразумевает продолжение мысли? :)
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[14:10:49] _lorien: или это смайл-инвалид? :D
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[14:10:57] RaD: не, это разорванный смайл
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[14:12:18] ebrilo: вот решил посмотреть с помощью debug_toolbar, какие контексты передаются в шаблон и при использовании render_to увидел, что контекст передается пять раз
[14:12:23] ebrilo: это нормально?
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[14:40:14] Izvr: всем привет
[14:40:16] Izvr: господа, чем лучше поиск сделать на django
[14:40:23] Izvr: ну точнее не на, а в
[14:40:31] Izvr: а то движков кучу предлагают
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[14:44:16] slav0nic: на нём имхо
[14:44:28] slav0nic: или хаки под постгресовский fts
[14:45:30] wiz: /me на sphinx сделал и не обломился
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[14:51:25] RaD: кто рубит в cx_oracle
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[14:51:47] RaD: cx_Oracle выдаёт ORA-01036: illegal variable name/number
[14:52:09] RaD: хотя сделал всё правильно и не первый раз с ним работаю, что за ерунда
[14:52:13] wiz: In soviet russia, оракл рубит тебя...
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[15:04:20] RaD: победил
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[15:06:59] wiz: как?
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[15:07:34] Izvr: вот что теперь с ним делать интересно, можете пояснить что означают поля fields и tags
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[15:07:53] Izvr: первое он индексирует и они должны быть строками
[15:08:00] Izvr: а вторые тогда на кой нужны?
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[15:20:31] yegor-kowalew: товарищи, помогите пожалуйста, подскажите как работать с USE_I18N <http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#setting-USE_I18N> как правильно перевести файл *.po и сделать с него *.mo немогу ничего найти хоть убей
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[15:41:40] GrimbleGromble: никто не знает почему в пдфе вместо "кода" отображаются пустые линии, в винде все нормально, из-за шрифтов?
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[15:43:20] yegor-kowalew: GrimbleGromble: точно не уверен, но помоему если шрифты не находятся, то подключаются любые по умолчанию
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[15:44:34] GrimbleGromble: издание от apress, уже у нескольких ихних pdf`ов такая фигня, никто не сталкивался?
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[15:45:30] RaD: yegor-kowalew: глянь в джангобук, там есть глава интернационализация, там эти основы расписаны
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[15:46:11] yegor-kowalew: делаю по основам. команда django-admin.py compilemessages говорит "Error: This script should be run from the Django SVN tree or your project or app tree, or with the settings module specified."
[15:46:34] yegor-kowalew: не могу понять что это ей надо
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[15:47:09] RaD: http://github.com/RaD/djbookru/tree/master - посмотри в каталог locale
[15:47:29] RaD: особенно глянь в Makefile
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[15:50:50] RaD: структура каталога locale выбрана неспроста, это всё есть в доках
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[15:51:03] e4key.inbox: привет всем
[15:51:25] yegor-kowalew: таварисчи подскажите команду для wget чтоб оно качало сайт и вложенные страницы и файлы но на другие сайты чтоб не шло
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[15:51:41] yegor-kowalew: извините не туда)
[15:51:44] RaD: man wget
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[15:51:48] StormChild: man wget :-D
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[15:51:53] RaD: я первый
[15:51:56] wiz: wget man
[15:52:02] e4key.inbox: у меня маленькая проблемка. нужно создать прогу для вин хп. планируется использовать wxpython и пару библиотек
[15:52:14] RaD: это не маленькая проблемка
[15:52:17] e4key.inbox: планирую все это сделать с инсталлятором
[15:52:18] StormChild: эта проблемка будет весить
[15:52:25] e4key.inbox: угу
[15:52:26] StormChild: *весить много
[15:52:45] e4key.inbox: поэтому я и спрашиваю мб можно как то ужать чтоли размер питона )
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[15:52:57] e4key.inbox: исключить ненужные либы
[15:53:04] RaD: можно его требовать в целевой системе
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[15:53:24] StormChild: можешь попробовать upx'ом ужать конечніе библиотеки, но не факт, что потом вообще заработает
[15:53:26] RaD: глупо тащить всё в одном пакете, сделай скрипт, который будет проверять наличие и подкачивать по необходимости нужные модули
[15:53:28] e4key.inbox: угу юзер установит питон потом еще скачает wxpython =)
[15:53:51] RaD: если он не захочет это делать, значит ему твой софт нафиг не нужен :)
[15:53:52] e4key.inbox: скрипт на питоне который будет проверять наличие питона?)
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[15:54:07] StormChild: лол
[15:54:12] StormChild: винрар.рар
[15:54:19] RaD: я написал "скрипт на питоне"?
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[15:54:38] e4key.inbox: а на чем?
[15:55:12] RaD: че там на венде - .bat, там ещё есть мегаскрипты, наши разрабы на них шедевры делают
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[15:56:27] RaD: но я бы просто потребовал наличие питона, а потом написал бы на питоне скрипт, который бы делал импорт и по исключению докачивал и ставил модуль
[15:56:38] RaD: с разрешения пользователя
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[15:56:50] RaD: а дальше можно и софтину пускать
[15:57:16] e4key.inbox: хм а еще есть мысль ставить питон при устаноке тулзы
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[15:57:26] e4key.inbox: тип как пиджин ставит гтк
[15:57:35] e4key.inbox: или как visual studio там докачивает себе
[15:57:40] RaD: если все с крыши будут прыгать, ты тоже за ними?
[15:57:55] e4key.inbox: ну так же удобнее =)
[15:57:55] RaD: не надо таскать в пакетах лишнее
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[15:58:12] e4key.inbox: какое лищнее? я имею ввиду что пакет будет грузиться
[15:58:17] e4key.inbox: с сайта а затем ставиться
[15:58:37] e4key.inbox: сначала стянем питон и поставим
[15:58:46] e4key.inbox: затем стянем и wxpython :)
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[15:59:12] StormChild: а потом юзер пошлёт тебя даалеееко за такие стягивания
[15:59:42] RaD: значит ему не нужна эта софтина :)
[16:00:03] RaD: сделай два варианта, полный и скачивающийся
[16:00:07] RaD: пусть выбирают
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[16:00:11] feedbot: Any good online Python courses out there? http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9ev3n/any_good_online_python_courses_out_there/
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[16:01:45] e4key.inbox: а можно чем упаковать софтину в ексешник без включения питона? тоесть если пользователь даже не знает что такое питон =) ну тип как у явы exe4j - он собирает jar в эксешку и затем при ее запуске требует установленной jre
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[16:01:58] e4key.inbox: или как .net framework требуют при запуске проги .net
[16:02:12] e4key.inbox: кароче как то проинформировать пользователя
[16:02:28] e4key.inbox: а то скачает, увидет какой - то pyw =) и ничего не поймет
[16:02:34] RaD: http://dpaste.com/86561/ - есть простенький лоадер данных в БД (для нагрузочных тестов), почему принт нифига не выводит, пока скрипт не закончит работу?
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[16:30:24] yegor-kowalew: RaD: спасибо, разобрался!
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[17:27:29] огыешсук: А вот делал ли кто веб-сервера на питоне?
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[17:27:59] Typhon: да
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[17:28:11] огыешсук: Интересует просто веб-сервер, умеющий получать (надо полагать, TCP/HTTP/POSTом) XMLку и отвечать другой XMLкой.
[17:28:47] огыешсук: На питоне, да. Умеющий очередь сообщений.
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[17:29:20] Typhon: http://www.nightmare.com/medusa/
[17:29:22] Typhon: например
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[17:29:48] огыешсук: Два вопроса: чем лучше воспользоваться дабы оное сделать, и второй вопрос -- производительность в 30 сообщений в секунду это для питоньего веб-сервера как -- нормально?
[17:29:52] Typhon: http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedWeb
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[17:32:58] огыешсук: только не хочется ставить монстров, что-то максимально простое -- листенить порт, ставить полученный реквест в очередь, брать реквест из очереди, отправлять ответ.
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[17:33:27] unk2k: Здравствуйте молодцы!
Делаю так
transfer_region = forms.ModelChoiceField(queryset=Regions.objects.all(), required=False)
субмит жму и получаю
'use_region': <Regions: Карачаево-Черкессия>,
а я хотел получить вот это
'use_region': u'12',
[17:33:45] огыешсук: твистед, это как я подозреваю как раз из разряда монстров
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[17:35:16] огыешсук: Typhon: медузу пробовал?
[17:35:25] Typhon: огыешук а может asyncore, asynchat
[17:35:30] Typhon: не, только чуть крутил :)
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[17:38:41] kryklia: привет. Подскажите такую штуку - на сайте есть меню для которых нужны views. И нужно сделать много flatpages, чтобы их редактировали польлзователи в админке.Можно ли вывести одновременно flatpages и некоторое views ? Или нужно в таком случае создать класс со кучей полей соотвествующей статической информацией чтобы его редактировали в админке и не пользоваться флетпажес?
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[17:39:11] kryklia: соответствующей статической информации*
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[17:39:43] kryklia: я не пойму как используя флетпажес вывести меню для генерации которого нужна выборка по базе
[17:40:11] kryklia: а создавать отдельный класс имитирующий флетпедес тоже не хочу
[17:40:26] kryklia: может можно как-то во views обратиться к flatpages?
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[17:48:14] unk2k: kryklia google => django flatpages menu
[17:48:37] kryklia: спасибо
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[17:51:06] kryklia: то что нужно :)
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[17:56:17] unk2k: Здравствуйте гурЫ!
Делаю так
transfer_region = forms.ModelChoiceField(queryset=Regions.objects.all(), required=False)
субмит жму и получаю
'use_region': <Regions: Карачаево-Черкессия>,
а я хотел получить вот это
'use_region': u'12',
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[17:58:59] kryklia: я не гуру, но кверисет вернет в любом случае кортеж
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[17:59:10] kryklia: а ты ожидаешь конкретное значение
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[18:00:21] unk2k: непонятно
[18:00:48] kryklia: может я что-то не понял, но что такое u'12', в твоем случае?
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[18:01:19] unk2k: print form.cleaned_data
[18:01:54] unk2k: Должно {'use_region': u'12'}
Есть {'use_region': <Regions: Карачаево-Черкессия>}
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[18:11:31] Мозгошредер: Нет никакго не жрущего ресурсы способа подождать, пока в некой переменной не появится значение?
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[18:13:00] unk2k: Мозгошредер курутина
[18:13:14] _lorien: когда пишешь в переменную, отправляй сигналы
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[18:18:17] unk2k: _lorien помоги мне
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[18:21:00] _lorien: нахуй все - я ненавижу людей ))
[18:21:07] _lorien: я хуй с горы ))
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[18:24:32] unk2k: _lorien, ну помоги
[18:24:39] unk2k: _lorien, вопрос то не легкий
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[18:26:30] _lorien: не помогу
[18:26:35] _lorien: гори огнём всё ))
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[18:29:48] unk2k: _lorien, у тебя что то в личной жизни не так пошло ?
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[18:30:15] unk2k: _lorien я понял в чем проблема, но не понял почему разработчики так написали def clean для этой форм.филды ?
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[19:13:38] unk2k: ешкин мутошкин ну обьясните мне, почему ModelChoiceField возвращает обьект от clean ???
[19:13:46] unk2k: в чем идея ?
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[21:00:03] unk2k: xa4a ты туто ?
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[21:01:49] RaD@home: спит он :)
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[21:02:00] unk2k: ппц
[21:02:03] unk2k: я умираю
[21:02:17] unk2k: читаю сорс джанги
[21:02:34] unk2k: вроде ооп, но данные бегают бог его знает как
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[21:04:27] RaD@home: да там всё просто, надо сначала абстрагироваца пивком
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[21:12:54] unk2k: value = self.queryset.get(**{key: value})
[21:13:00] unk2k: шо за ** ?
[21:13:40] RaD@home: раскрытие словаря в аргументы
[21:14:19] unk2k: по русски пжста
[21:14:22] unk2k: для дебилов
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[21:14:52] unk2k: ** - он кто ?
[21:15:28] RaD@home: ну например: params = {'title': 'hello', 'enabled': True}
self.queryset.get(**params) равен self.queryset.get(title='hello', enabled=True)
[21:16:00] RaD@home: а по научному в доке на питон расписано
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[21:41:37] RaD@home: камрады, подскажите как передать свой контекст в flatpage
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[21:52:22] kryklia: рад тоже этим занимаюсь unk2k подсказал посмотреть djnago flantpages menu
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[21:53:01] kryklia: http://blog.umlungu.co.uk/blog/2007/jul/29/simple-menu-django-flatpages/
[21:53:03] RaD@home: и как оно?
[21:53:17] kryklia: будет) щас тинимсе подкручиваю к флетам чето нейдет
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[21:53:57] kryklia: я кое-что обратное твоему делаю наверно - получаю во вью данные из нужного флета и рендерю
[21:54:03] RaD@home: не, это не то
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[21:54:24] RaD@home: я просто хочу флетпейдж обрамить данными из общего контекста
[21:54:30] kryklia: я тоже хочу
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[21:54:43] RaD@home: а свой класс ленюсь сделать :)
[21:54:46] kryklia: и другого способа не увидел как писать свой view
[21:55:07] kryklia: это глупо по-моему - я тоже отказался - зачем имитировать флетпажес?
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[21:55:21] RaD@home: хотя идею я понял, своя вьюха, а данные беруться из модели флетпейджа
[21:55:26] kryklia: да
[21:55:35] kryklia: а юзеры редактируют флеты
[21:55:38] RaD@home: пойдёт
[21:55:50] kryklia: :)
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