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[02:02:43] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[14:35:21] Ляпатяпа: кто-нибудь работал с libdiff? хочу в pybb сделать историю редактирования сообщений, т.е. при редактировании дифф, по которому можно восстановить предыдущую страницу скидывается в реляционную таблицу... Ну и инкрементность требуется
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[14:36:24] огыешсук: так в джанге есть приложение для истории изменений, в пинах вроде оно даже входит
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[14:38:51] Ляпатяпа: в пинах?
[14:39:14] slav0nic: огыешсук, только то что видишь в админке сбоку
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[14:40:10] Ляпатяпа: в документации джанги ничего про диффы
[14:40:21] огыешсук: разумеется
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[14:40:51] Ляпатяпа: пожалуй я займусь этим как-нибудь позже
[14:41:00] Ляпатяпа: башка что-то деревянная
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[14:41:43] Ляпатяпа: вот смотрю я документацию - там больше про визуализацию различий, а мне нужно компактное хранение
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[14:48:42] огыешсук: slav0nic: не, я там видел кнопку history когда модель редактируешь
[14:49:04] slav0nic: я об этом и говорю
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[15:08:23] mishok13: Ляпатяпа, я думаю, работу с диффами имееет смысл смотреть в hg
[15:08:36] mishok13: или bzr, на худой конец
[15:08:48] Ляпатяпа: ага, хорошее замечание
[15:08:53] Typhon: в hg оно на си, вроде бы
[15:09:05] Ляпатяпа: хотя там наверно своя специфика
[15:10:26] slav0nic: django-revision есть
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[15:12:19] slav0nic: пардон *reversion
[15:12:20] mishok13: Typhon, Python C API, скорее
[15:12:26] mishok13: ну, есть еще bzr
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[15:14:05] wiz: revision есть тоже (=
[15:14:10] огыешсук: во-во, я про revision и говорю, там таки диффы кажись были, а в пинахе его нет, надо же
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[15:14:39] огыешсук: s/revision/reversion, блин!
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[15:22:00] wiz: а этот perversion только для админки чтоль?
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[15:23:50] slav0nic: mishok13, то о чём ты говоришь есть в django-rcsfield
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[15:47:23] mishok13: slav0nic, ну ты же вроде в курсе, что я джангу никогда не использовал? ;)
[15:47:37] slav0nic: )припоминаю
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[15:50:12] Ляпатяпа: гроза была только что, штормит меня... потери пакетов 20-80 процентов=(
[15:50:17] Ляпатяпа: так и без инета можно остаться
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[16:15:28] yegor-kowalew: Здравствуйте ребята, глупый вопрос, в views.py подключаю модуль для работы с регулярными выражениями вот так "import re" спотыкаюсь на строчке "text_tbl = text_tbl.replace('<TR', '<tr')". Я что неправильно подключил модуль?
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[16:16:19] red-agent: "спотыкаюсь" -- очень хорошее обьяснение проблемы
[16:16:29] red-agent: и при чем тут re, если в этой строке ты его не используешь?
[16:16:43] wiz: ну как же? re-place
[16:17:00] red-agent: wiz, остряк-самоучка.
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[16:17:22] Большой Лис: :D
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[16:18:39] yegor-kowalew: сейчас я более серьезно подготовлюсь
[16:18:58] red-agent: Код и трейсбек покажи.
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[16:21:55] yegor-kowalew: http://dumpz.org/11941/ код vievs.py трейсбек http://dumpz.org/11942/
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[16:22:40] red-agent: /me закрыл лицо руками
[16:23:01] yegor-kowalew: что?
[16:23:06] yegor-kowalew: я навичок
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[16:24:34] GrimbleGromble: http://djbook.ru/
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[16:25:16] yegor-kowalew: Знаю я етот сайт
[16:25:37] xa4a: его знать мало
[16:25:39] yegor-kowalew: уже даже книжку по Django купил на русском
[16:25:46] xa4a: купить книжку мало
[16:25:56] red-agent: Ты бы питон сначала выучил.
[16:25:57] огыешсук: он "навичок", дайте ему нормальную английскую доку
[16:26:03] red-agent: Прежде чем за джангу хвататься.
[16:26:11] red-agent: огыешсук, +1
[16:26:20] red-agent: python.org/doc -- наше все.
[16:26:44] yegor-kowalew: ну а если хоть намекнуть в чем ошибка?
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[16:27:38] nmk: unexpected indent ? :)
[16:27:54] xa4a: unexpected indent
[16:28:04] nmk: unexpected indent!!!!!1111
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[16:29:18] sober: :)
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[16:31:28] yegor-kowalew: все, посмеялись))) больше так не буду)))
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[16:32:02] sober: еще один ламерский вопрос, работаю с pysvn; когда читаю содержимое файла из транзакции и записываю его в файл, текст пишеться в файл через строку; подозреваю, что проблема с кодировкой
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[16:32:29] xa4a: sober: через строку - это как7
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[16:32:57] sober: http://dumpz.org/11944/
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[16:34:03] sober: там где есть перенос строки - вставляется пустая строка
[16:34:57] Typhon: охуеть
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[16:36:30] xa4a: sober: очевидно, trans.cat в доле
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[16:42:50] sober: http://dumpz.org/11946/
[16:43:05] sober: перенос строки записывается почему-то как 0D 0D 0A
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[16:44:02] wee: Подскажите как сделать urlopen через другой ethernet интерфейс? Ну или аналогичную функцию, чтобы можно было выбрать сетевой интерфейс через который работать.
[16:44:21] xa4a: wee: это средствами ОС
[16:44:45] wee: xa4a: только так?
[16:45:25] wee: xa4a: во время работы скрипта хочу менять интерфейсы через которые работать.
[16:46:50] xa4a: если и можно - то сокеты ковырять надо
[16:46:53] xa4a: man socket
[16:46:54] xa4a: man bind
[16:47:12] xa4a: (posix programmer's man)
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[16:49:00] wee: ну до уровня сокетов опускаться не хочется. поставлю наверное cgi-proxy с выбором интерфейса и буду через него работать.
[16:49:17] yegor-kowalew: есть ли разбирающиеся в регулярных выражениях?
[16:49:52] wiz: yegor-kowalew, см. топик
[16:49:52] xa4a: yegor-kowalew: есть
[16:49:58] xa4a: в топике написано, да
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[16:52:30] yegor-kowalew: мне нужно найти в тексте вот такое вот выражение class='любой_текст' и кавычки могут быть или ' или " я нашел так - class="[a-zA-Z0-9]*" но этот вариант находит толко в этих " кавычках, как находить в обеих вариантах?
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[16:54:08] yegor-kowalew: спасибо, сейчас буду разбираться
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[18:12:07] unk2k: Всем привет, кто делал связку Oracle10x + Python ?
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[18:36:20] A2K: у меня есть /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/vplayer/main.py в котором есть функция main
[18:36:34] A2K: почему у меня не работает from vplayer.main import main ?
[18:36:40] A2K: пишет что нет такого main
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[18:37:49] Ляпатяпа: __init__.py в вплеере есть?
[18:38:01] A2K: да
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[18:46:12] Ляпатяпа: from vplayer import main
main = main.main
[18:46:30] A2K: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'main'
[18:46:42] Ляпатяпа: значит в модуле нету мейна
[18:46:51] A2K: это функция, она там есть
[18:47:04] Ляпатяпа: я натыкался на подобное, как-то разбирался
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[18:48:18] Ляпатяпа: такс, погоди. на какой строке ошибка вылезает
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[18:48:49] Ляпатяпа: если на первой - значит файл таки не определяется как часть пакета
[18:49:00] A2K: при попытке доступа к main.main
[18:49:01] Ляпатяпа: в сайт-пакеджах нету vplayer.py?
[18:49:06] A2K: в dir(main) нету main
[18:49:13] A2K: в сайт-пакеджах нету
[18:49:21] Ляпатяпа: другую функцию оттуда можешь импортировать?
[18:49:33] A2K: там одна функци
[18:49:51] Ляпатяпа: ну сделай другую, может магия с main
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[18:50:02] A2K: бля..
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[18:50:05] A2K: vplayer-1.0-py2.6.egg-info
[18:50:14] A2K: лежало в site-packages
[18:50:18] A2K: удалил - импортится
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[18:52:33] Ляпатяпа: ну понятно, я подозревал такое
[18:52:35] Ляпатяпа: не знал что яйца тоже можно импортировать
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[21:20:28] bobry: что то я не понял :) от меня вопрос дошел?
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[21:21:00] Большой Лис: нет
[21:21:36] bobry: блин, в общем есть скрипт, высящий демоном, хочется организовать с ним общение из другого скрипта, что можете посоветовать из встроенных средсв? asyncore?
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[21:23:23] klichuk: знаю оконный менеджер скрин
[21:23:31] klichuk: его кски между собой сокетами общаются
[21:23:47] klichuk: *куски, то есть разные процессы кажется
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[21:24:09] red-agent: bobry, Да любое IPC решение.
[21:24:18] red-agent: Сокеты, юникс-сокеты, пайпы, dbus.
[21:24:37] bobry: ну хочется обойтись стандартной библиотекой, поэтому dbus например сразу отваливается
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[21:25:18] red-agent: xml-rpc через сокты можна заюзать, как вариант.
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[21:26:18] bobry: red-agent: а какую нибудь ссылку толковую по этому делу не подкинешь? или google? :)
[21:29:12] red-agent: Google, официальная документация.
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[21:29:47] bobry: окей, спасибо
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[21:53:41] yegor-kowalew: поздравте меня, первый махинький, но главное рабочий!!! наработок http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQsA9bk55B4
[21:53:52] yegor-kowalew: видео потому что все пока только локально
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[21:58:25] bobry: аа, неподумал что то ;)
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[23:29:23] xa4a: yegor-kowalew: тебе не кажется, что ты не тем занимаешься?
[23:29:57] yegor-kowalew: xa4a: амм... в каком смысле?
[23:30:02] bobry: блин, питонеры емаксеры помогите мне, у меня в python-mode "/" не хочет печататься
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[23:30:24] slav0nic: piranha, помогай)
[23:30:39] piranha: шо? :)
[23:30:41] piranha: ээээ
[23:30:45] bobry: :)/
[23:30:45] piranha: bobry: C-h k /
[23:30:50] bobry: не пашет
[23:30:54] piranha: шо говорит?
[23:30:55] xa4a: yegor-kowalew: ты уже смотрел в сторону xslt?
[23:30:56] bobry: ожидает продолжения сочетания
[23:30:57] piranha: в плане не пашет?
[23:31:00] bobry: /-
[23:31:01] piranha: эээ
[23:31:09] piranha: нажми C-h
[23:31:11] bobry: причем выключаешь python-mode все оке
[23:31:32] bobry: и в хуке ничего нету с кнопками, а что C-h искать?
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[23:34:43] piranha: bobry: либо нажми / C-h
[23:34:46] piranha: либо C-h k /
[23:34:52] piranha: ты емаксом давно пользуешься?
[23:35:02] piranha: вообще спроси лучше на emacs@ :-)
[23:35:03] bobry: ну пару месяцев уже
[23:35:10] bobry: там все молчат) я спросил
[23:35:11] piranha: а то я спать собираюсь сваливать... %))))
[23:35:12] piranha: аа
[23:35:13] piranha: хммм
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[23:35:22] piranha: ну в общем жмякни сначала первое, а потом второе
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[23:35:30] bobry: аа, ну тада ладно)
[23:35:32] bobry: блиин
[23:35:35] bobry: спасибо большое)
[23:35:46] bobry: я и не знал про key C-h
[23:35:55] bobry: показало что у меня кушает кнопочку
[23:36:11] bobry: вelectric-pair по дефолту ее видимо забирает себе
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[23:38:56] piranha: :)
[23:39:00] piranha: наверное
[23:39:09] piranha: ну закоцай тогда, а я пошëл спать )
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