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[00:00:45] yegor-kowalew: извините еще раз, последний на сегодня глупый вопрос, решил чистить теги с помощью BeautifulSoup но вот не могу найти, можно ли удалить в тегах все атрибуты кроме указанного?
[00:01:21] bobry: я честно говоря такого не видел
[00:01:25] bobry: а почему beautiful soup
[00:01:28] bobry: он же медленный?
[00:02:04] yegor-kowalew: bobry: ну какбы первый который нашел и в который начал вникать, есть варианты лучше?
[00:02:29] bobry: python-lxml
[00:02:44] xa4a: !g python xslt
[00:03:23] yegor-kowalew: bobry: а в python-lxml такого сделать нельзя?
[00:05:13] bobry: я точно не знаю, но я не видел такой штуки
[00:06:07] yegor-kowalew: жаль
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[00:09:15] slav0nic: какого такого?
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[00:10:58] yegor-kowalew: slav0nic: извините еще раз, последний на сегодня глупый вопрос, решил чистить теги с помощью BeautifulSoup но вот не могу найти, можно ли удалить в тегах все атрибуты кроме указанного?
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[00:12:26] slav0nic: ну пробегись и удали) я bs уже не помню, а в lxml были cleaner, но толком их не юзал
[00:14:06] yegor-kowalew: slav0nic: стоит задача - есть таблица с кучей ужасных атрибутов и параметров, я не знаю какие из них там бывают, но вот некоторые из них мне надо оставить...
[00:14:34] yegor-kowalew: slav0nic: lxml сейчас читаю...
[00:15:05] slav0nic: ну кинь в приват кусок хтмл, ща гляну
[00:15:27] slav0nic: не пойму в чём сложность, пробежаться по тегам и проверить аттрибуты сложно чтоли
[00:16:06] yegor-kowalew: slav0nic: спасибо, кажется я нашел то что искал - lxml.html.clean
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[00:17:36] yegor-kowalew: там есть вот такие прекрасные штучки cleaner = Cleaner(style=True, links=True, add_nofollow=True, page_structure=False, safe_attrs_only=False)
[00:17:43] slav0nic: yegor-kowalew, сменой парсера это не решается + lxml покруче bs будет, глянь пример http://blog.odonnell.nu/posts/html-comments/
[00:18:03] sevenov: о, сегодня тут тепло?
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[00:18:22] bobry: жарко :)
[00:19:44] yegor-kowalew: все-таки попробую с lxml поработать, как-то вроде поинтересней получается
[00:19:45] sevenov: >[01:02:23 AM] bobry: python-lxml
Хм. А оно разве хавает невалидное? По моему, оно ружится же.
[00:20:58] bobry: смотря насколько не валидное, я с ним давно ковырялся, ни разу не видел чтобы он ругался
[00:21:11] slav0nic: я что-то тоже
[00:21:13] bobry: к тому же разве речь о невалидном?
[00:21:59] sevenov: в рот мне ноги, я спутал с sax o_O
[00:24:43] slav0nic: вчера было +30 на улице, сёдня уже 14
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[00:47:20] yegor-kowalew: хе хе таварисчи
[00:47:43] yegor-kowalew: хотите верьте хотите нет но я уже досматриваю ПЯТЫЙ сезон домохозяек!
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[00:50:25] sevenov: yegor-kowalew, ну ты вообще молодец.
[00:50:48] yegor-kowalew: и с lxml все отлично получается!
[00:51:01] yegor-kowalew: аж страшно как поперло
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[12:27:36] mishok13: http://dumpz.org/11965/
[12:27:46] nmk: www.netboot.me молодцы что пиздец. еще бы сделали бы как-нибудь, что бы по вайфай можно было все это грузить.
[12:27:54] mishok13: никто не знает как это привести в программный вид?
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[12:28:42] Ляпатяпа: а в чем проблема?
[12:29:18] mishok13: есть ужасный костыль:
''.join(map(chr, map(ord, s.decode('utf8')))).decode('cp1251')
[12:29:38] mishok13: проблема в том, что есть данные, которые дважды кодированы
[12:29:46] mishok13: сначала cp1251, потом utf8
[12:30:08] mishok13: теперь думаю, как эти данные (без костылей вышеприведенных) привести в божеский вид
[12:31:24] Ляпатяпа: да нормальные такие костыли
[12:32:07] mishok13: ахвотбляоночто
[12:32:08] mishok13: s.decode('utf8').encode('latin1').decode('cp1251')
[12:32:12] piranha: ыыы
[12:32:14] piranha: найс
[12:32:26] mishok13: оно еще и в latin1 было
[12:32:30] bobry: хах
[12:32:31] mishok13: уроды блять
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[12:32:44] piranha: эээ
[12:32:48] Ляпатяпа: у меня в локалке кривая кодировка в мускуле
[12:32:54] piranha: а, декодировано из него
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[12:33:17] Ляпатяпа: пхпмайадмин такие каракули выдает, а просто пхп - ниче, работает
[12:33:44] Ляпатяпа: но самая жопа в галерее - фотки с русскими именами на файловой системе каракулями теми же сохраняются
[12:33:53] StormChild: >s.decode('utf8').encode('latin1').decode('cp1251')
лолжесть
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[12:42:40] bobry: народ, а можно как нибудь по умному соеденить system.stdout(stderr) и logging?
[12:42:47] bobry: *sys.
[12:44:27] mishok13: а?
[12:44:48] bobry: хочется чтобы оттуда все в лог писалось, что то не могу сообразить как
[12:44:59] bobry: т.е. можно их конечно в файл перенаправить
[12:45:10] bobry: но хочется чтобы это было через logging
[12:46:14] klichuk: хочешь чтоб и на на стд-потоки и в логи?
[12:46:26] bobry: нет, только в логи
[12:46:32] klichuk: можно
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[12:46:45] klichuk: логгинг доки
[12:46:52] bobry: что то смотрю документацию и ничего в голову не лезет
[12:46:53] klichuk: офф доку по модулю
[12:47:08] bobry: там везде filename вроде как нужно
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[12:47:39] bobry: ахах
[12:47:41] klichuk: StreamHandler
[12:47:54] klichuk: а вообще myprog > log.txt
[12:48:02] bobry: ну это не кошерно
[12:48:05] klichuk: кагбе , или 2> lo.txt
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return
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[14:37:09] Yegor Kowalew: Здравствуйте мастера, у меня опять глупый вопрос, помогите. Вот это - \u0433\u043e\u0432\u043e\u0440\ немогу перевести в человеческий вид... я уже все что угодно перепробывал.
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[14:38:19] Ляпатяпа: In [44]: print u'\u0433\u043e\u0432\u043e\u0440'
-------> print(u'\u0433\u043e\u0432\u043e\u0440')
говор
[14:38:26] Ляпатяпа: в конце бекслеш не забудь удалить
[14:39:07] Большой Лис: Ляпатяпа, и что это ты сделал?
[14:39:32] Ляпатяпа: ничего
[14:39:36] Ляпатяпа: просто принт
[14:39:40] Ляпатяпа: без бекслеша
[14:41:36] Ляпатяпа: насколько я понимаю, у Егора просто юникодная строка, записанная десятичными цифрами
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[14:42:20] Yegor Kowalew: я со страницы передаю русский текст, его в переменную а там такая бяка
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[14:42:40] klichuk: если не хочешь юникод, encode('utf-8')
[14:43:26] Ляпатяпа: а ну да, у меня похоже ipython сам коннектит из utf-8
[14:44:04] klichuk: не только айпайтон
[14:44:21] klichuk: обічній интерпретатор тоже виводит "говор"
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[14:47:03] Yegor Kowalew: у меня все еще запутаней, я пытаюсь типографировать то что получил со стриницы типографом лебедева, если взять то что пришло со стриницы и отослать обратно, то все нормально отображается, а если взять то что пришло со страницы и попытаться отдать на сайт лебедева то вылазит ошибка...
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[14:52:17] Yegor Kowalew: а если конкретно то вот такая http://dumpz.org/11974/ ошибка
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[15:01:27] klichuk: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[15:01:50] Yegor Kowalew: ?
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[15:02:54] klichuk: что передаешь ему? что он тебе такой ответ дает?
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[15:05:01] Yegor Kowalew: все, наконецто разобрался, решение вот - data = rt.processText(text_tbl.encode('utf-8')) спасибо что выручили
[15:05:14] klichuk: [14:42:40] <klichuk> если не хочешь юникод, encode('utf-8')
[15:05:50] Yegor Kowalew: сначала почему-то все-равно не хотело работать...
[15:06:00] Yegor Kowalew: мистика
[15:06:03] klichuk: не хотелось ему, да?
[15:06:46] Yegor Kowalew: просто сначала писал так - return HttpResponse(rt.processText(text_tbl.encode('utf-8'))) так не работало, а когда в другую переменную засунул заработало
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[15:07:42] klichuk: /me не верит что другая переменная решила проблему
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[15:16:38] Yegor Kowalew: это все мистика))
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[15:22:46] Yegor Kowalew: может еще подскажите чем красиво разбирать xml файлики из под ворда?
[15:22:55] Yegor Kowalew: тоесть екселя
[15:23:00] mishok13: э?
[15:23:02] mishok13: lxml
[15:23:38] Yegor Kowalew: mishok13, неужели оно и это умеет?
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[15:23:40] огыешсук: а xml.dom.minidom сосет?
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[15:23:55] wiz: да
[15:24:04] огыешсук: а чем?
[15:24:30] Yegor Kowalew: /me ушел дальше вникать в lxml
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[15:27:44] nmk: piranha: вопрос тебе по hg, случайно начал немного не то коммитить, там был файл больше 10 метров, вроде на нем все остановилось, но коммит есть, делаю rollback получаю abort: No such file or directory recover тоже не помогает. в морг? :)
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[15:28:16] piranha: hg verify попробуй
[15:28:35] piranha: ну и склонируй куда-то, и в этом клоне hg up -C -r -2; hg strip tip
[15:28:40] piranha: тупо отрежь его нах
[15:28:42] nmk: 17 integrity errors encountered!
[15:28:44] piranha: или склонируй не до конца
[15:28:48] piranha: ох, херня
[15:28:58] piranha: в общем, склонируй тока до нужной ревизии
[15:29:13] nmk: ясн. я так примерно и думал.
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[15:29:57] nmk: спсибо
[15:31:10] nmk: а если я из клона .hg вытащу и вставлю куда мне надо, то все будет хорошо? :)
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[15:34:17] nmk: да, все получилось. :)
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[15:35:00] bobry: рр, какие же люди ленивые..кто нибудь пользуется lastfmsubmitd?
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[15:35:42] nmk: ты это кому?
[15:35:48] wiz: !seen a2k
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[15:36:45] mishok13: bobry, quod libet пользуется lastfmsubmitd :)
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[15:37:29] bobry: вот гад, я жутко недоволен :) почитал код..блин, КАК можно так писать?
[15:37:32] bobry: мне было бы стыдно
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[15:38:35] mishok13: а что там не так?
[15:38:37] bobry: docstrings придумали те кто просто не умеет программировать
[15:38:39] bobry: и
[15:38:48] bobry: блин, опять буфер не переключился
[15:39:44] bobry: естественно там СВОЯ библиотека для работы с last.fm
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[15:40:31] mishok13: а какая должна быть?
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[15:42:19] mishok13: я, конечно, извиняюсь
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[15:42:41] bobry: м?
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[15:42:51] piranha: не понял про докстринги
[15:43:06] bobry: да просто роздражает когда их нет)
[15:43:07] piranha: подробнее можно?
[15:43:11] piranha: ээээ
[15:43:32] piranha: bobry: docstrings придумали те кто просто не умеет программировать
[15:43:34] piranha: шо?
[15:43:56] mishok13: mishok@magicpony:/tmp/lastfmsubmitd$ git log | tail
commit 3725be84d56ca51fd9a357d64c4443479e46df64
Author: Decklin Foster <decklin@red-bean.com>
Date: Thu Dec 8 05:27:03 2005 +0000

It compiles, import it!

[15:44:09] bobry: ого, хах
[15:44:15] mishok13: каким образом lastfmsubmitd должен использовать pylast, мне невдомек
[15:44:28] bobry: download in package form:

1.0.5 (18kb tar.gz, 2009-04-11)
1.0.4 (18kb tar.gz, 2009-03-07)
1.0.3 (18kb tar.gz, 2009-02-10)
[15:44:39] bobry: @http://www.red-bean.com/decklin/lastfmsubmitd/
[15:44:44] mishok13: я в курсе
[15:44:46] mishok13: что дальше?
[15:44:51] kryklia is now away
[15:45:07] bobry: почему бы не использовать готовую библиотеку, которая к тому же юзает вторую версию API
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[15:45:21] mishok13: еще раз
[15:45:27] mishok13: Thu Dec 8 05:27:03 2005 +0000
[15:45:32] mishok13: 2008-07-31 16:39:02 +0300
[15:45:42] bergamot is now online
[15:45:44] bobry: как объяснить даты выше? 2009-
[15:45:52] mishok13: почему бы просто не предложить патчи вместо написания блять своей либы
[15:45:53] mishok13: ?
[15:46:07] mishok13: это даты первых коммитов
[15:46:14] bobry: потому что там апи не совместимы
[15:46:33] mishok13: нет
[15:46:57] mishok13: потому что автор pylast решил написать свой велосипед вместо патчей
[15:46:58] bergamot: не знаете как из жида в конференции получить нормальный? xmpppy. pythonua@conference.jabber.ru/bergamot -> bergamot@example.com
[15:47:00] mishok13: это нормально
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[15:47:12] piranha: bergamot: никак
[15:47:20] piranha: bergamot: в общем случае
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[15:47:22] mishok13: bergamot, jid'ы доступны только модераторам
[15:47:23] bobry: какой велосипед? эта библиотека насколько я понимаю даже зарелизена не была
[15:47:24] bergamot: права то есть
[15:47:30] bergamot: бот - модератор
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[15:47:48] mishok13: bobry, "эта библиотека" -- какая?
[15:47:58] bobry: которая с lastfmsubmitd идет
[15:48:10] bobry: она как с ним была, так с ним и осталась
[15:48:11] mishok13: ОНА С 2005-ого ГОДА
[15:48:16] mishok13: 2005
[15:48:24] mishok13: на ТРИ года раньше pylast
[15:48:35] bobry: и? я про то что автор pylast мог ее в лицо и не видеть вообще
[15:48:55] piranha: дак и похер!
[15:48:59] mishok13: ну и хуй?
[15:49:10] piranha: каким образом ластфмсабмитд может юзать либу, которая на 3 года позже появилась?
[15:49:10] mishok13: то что он интраверт никого как-то не ебет
[15:49:20] bobry: piranha: версии то выходили
[15:49:26] piranha: ну и шо?
[15:49:29] piranha: смотри
[15:49:31] piranha: я пишу прогу
[15:49:34] piranha: три года пишу
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[15:49:58] piranha: и тут выходит либа, которая умеет какую-то фичу моей прогу
[15:50:09] piranha: я шо, резко должен переключиться? Какой мне смысл?
[15:50:26] piranha: bobry: я не просто так спрашиваю, у меня такая ситуация н-цать раз возникала уже
[15:50:42] bobry: это все звучало бы обедительно если бы речь не шла о скрипте на 300+ строк
[15:50:49] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[15:50:50] piranha: тем более похер
[15:50:54] piranha: зачем ему еще зависимости?
[15:51:08] bobry: а какой смысл таскать свою недоделку трехлетней давности?
[15:51:15] piranha: она для него работает
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[15:51:33] bobry: "для него"
[15:51:50] piranha: да
[15:51:53] piranha: он разработчик
[15:52:00] bobry: что хочет то и делает) я в курсе
[15:52:10] piranha: хочешь улучшения - улучшай, кто мешает?
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[15:52:21] mishok13: mishok@magicpony:/tmp/lastfmsubmitd$ aptitude search lastfmsubmitd
i lastfmsubmitd - submission daemon for the Last.fm social music network
mishok@magicpony:/tmp/lastfmsubmitd$ aptitude search python-last
mishok@magicpony:/tmp/lastfmsubmitd$ aptitude search pylast
mishok@magicpony:/tmp/lastfmsubmitd$ aptitude search python-pylast
mishok@magicpony:/tmp/lastfmsubmitd$ aptitude search python-lastfm
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[15:52:29] mishok13: и что тут поделка, еще раз?
[15:52:33] bobry: да в этом случае проще переписать
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[15:52:45] bobry: поделка - библиотека, которую использует lastfmsubmitd
[15:52:47] mishok13: то, что уже давно проверено и работает, или с нуля что-то написанное?
[15:52:49] bobry: потому что она разового применения
[15:53:14] bergamot: а в чем проблема то? если скрипт без либы 300 строк, напиши с либой короче и лучше
[15:53:15] piranha: в смысле разового?
[15:53:25] bobry: ну она работает, да, но толку от нее ноль, потому что повторно за 3 года ее никто, как я понимаю не заюзал
[15:53:33] piranha: да похер!
[15:53:36] bobry: в смысле, она в одном месте только работает
[15:53:37] bobry: я про это
[15:53:39] piranha: п-о-х-е-р
[15:53:45] piranha: раз работает - зачем что-то делать?
[15:53:51] piranha: зато зависимостей нету как минимум
[15:53:59] bergamot: успокойте меня, скажите что footter.com пингуется
[15:54:06] bobry: lol
[15:54:08] piranha: неужели у ластфм апи такой страшный, что для него нужна либа?
[15:54:14] bergamot: а то мой любимый провайдер шалит опять
[15:54:25] mishok13: bobry, quod libet и exaile как минимум
[15:54:26] bergamot: xmpp.org не грузится, мой хостинг тоже
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[15:54:52] piranha: bergamot: пингуется
[15:55:01] bergamot: гуд, значит переждем
[15:55:06] mishok13: а кто пользуется pylast?
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[15:58:56] bobry: как минимум я, но, надо заметить pylast висит тут http://www.lastfm.ru/api/downloads, отсюда я про него и узнал
[15:59:22] piranha: а ластфмсабмитд не висит, потому что это standalone-приложение
[15:59:29] mishok13: а про python-lastfm ты, значит, не слышал
[15:59:35] mishok13: и про pyscrobbler
[15:59:50] mishok13: lastfmsubmitd -- это не только API, то еще и демон
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[15:59:55] bobry: неа, ни про то, ни про то
зашел на страничку ласт.фм и увидел там библиотеку для питона
[16:00:39] mishok13: ну понятно
[16:00:44] bobry: теперь представляем неприятный момент: ласт.фм прекращает использование протокола первой версии, что мы видим?
[16:00:48] poltergeist is now away
[16:00:53] bobry: exaile, quodlibet и компания в пролете
[16:01:01] bobry: потому что дядечка поленился поменять 20 строчек
[16:01:24] mishok13: The status of this project is: STABLE. I will soon be working on
supporting the next protocol version
[16:01:35] mishok13: что из эти двух предложений тебе непонятно?
[16:01:38] bobry: ну я ему написал, не будет никакого soon
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[16:01:56] mishok13: ТАК ОТПРАВЬ ПАТЧ БЛЯТЬ А НЕ ЖАЛУЙСЯ
[16:02:03] mishok13: а не нравится -- не используй
[16:02:21] mishok13: поверь, среди людей пользующихся quod libet/exaile найдутся те, кто в состоянии написать патч
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[16:02:23] bobry: я не жалуюсь, мне просто не нравится его подход, я бы заменил
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[16:02:45] mishok13: охблять, железобетонная логика
[16:03:02] bobry: что с ней не так?
[16:03:10] mishok13: а ему нравится ЕГО подход который он использует для написания СВОЕЙ библиотеки/приложения
[16:03:13] mishok13: чувствуешь?
[16:03:22] bobry: и?
[16:03:26] mishok13: опенсорс не для кого-то пишут, а для СЕБЯ
[16:03:56] bobry: ну когда тем что ты написал для себя начинает пользоваться много людей твоя роль слегка меняется
[16:03:59] piranha: гыгы
[16:04:40] mishok13: piranha, чо ржешь, иди переводи байтфлоу на румынский, потому что румыны нихера не понимают
[16:04:42] mishok13: МАРШ
[16:04:45] wiz: bobry, http://s.lurkmore.ru/images/8/83/122323220162.jpg
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[16:05:01] piranha: mishok13: бп
[16:05:08] piranha: об этом и ржу
[16:05:18] piranha: bobry: на самом деле наоборот
[16:05:20] bobry: wiz: *OK*
[16:05:36] bobry: как наоборот? чем больше людей тем больше тебе пофик?
[16:05:42] piranha: чем больше людей пользуется - тем критичнее относишься к тому, что предлагают со стороны
[16:05:57] piranha: потому шо через время начинаешь видеть, что огромная часть предложений со стороны вылилась в херню
[16:05:58] piranha: ;)
[16:06:23] bobry: ах, не имел опыта. поэтому могу только предполагать
все равно, мне кажется что замена библиотеки не из этой серии
[16:06:31] bobry: лана, идти мне надо) не злитесь
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[16:06:37] piranha: да, она из серии "работает - не трогай"
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[16:13:22] mishok13: хм, как получить список пакетов зависимых от даного в дебиане?
[16:13:52] wiz: aptitude show
[16:14:14] Yegor Kowalew: ребята подскажите как в lxml работать с .drop_tag() примерчиком... в документации так неясно написано...
[16:14:25] piranha: wiz: эээ... и где там?
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[16:15:23] wiz: а... от данного
[16:15:41] mishok13: угумс
[16:15:59] mishok13: я думаю, что это малодостижимо (смутно припоминая принципы устройства deb)
[16:16:01] wiz: тогда aptitude, там ищешь пакет и в свойствах смотришь
[16:16:47] mishok13: ага
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[16:17:26] mishok13: ну оно локальный кеш использует, похоже
[16:17:33] wiz: ессно
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[16:18:43] mishok13: так неинтересно :)
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[16:21:09] xa4a: был бы правильный дистр - я бы сказал equery d <pkg>
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[16:21:39] xa4a: а так - на packages.debia.org
[16:21:42] xa4a: или как оно там
[16:21:43] xa4a: вроде было
[16:21:44] piranha: это только среди установленных
[16:21:45] xa4a: не?
[16:22:04] piranha: еквери
[16:22:05] piranha: не?
[16:22:12] xa4a: piranha: еквери - среди всех
[16:22:17] piranha: ок
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[16:23:54] mishok13: не, я не фанатею от дистрофлеймов
[16:24:08] piranha: чо?
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[16:25:35] mishok13: """[04:21:09 PM] xa4a: был бы правильный дистр"""
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[16:27:59] Izvr: господа, вот хочу я например написать свой сериалайзер моделей в джанге
[16:28:11] Izvr: что можно почитать по этому поводу?
[16:28:14] Izvr: или нужно
[16:28:23] xa4a: mishok13: тем не менее, кроме тебя никто не обратил внимания ;)
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[16:29:10] mishok13: xa4a, ну а ты единственный, кто решил вспомнить про gentoo (причем после того как я получил ответ) ;)
[16:29:12] piranha: остальные привыкли ;)
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[16:29:51] tilarids: lzvr: а зачем тебе это нужно?
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[16:30:52] tilarids: сейчас /me дистрофлейм превратит в куда более интересный вид флейма. xa4a: юзай gdm!
[16:30:56] Izvr: ну грубо говоря я сейчас сделал взаимодействие yahoo ui и django по json rpc
[16:31:05] tilarids: всё, /me убежал
[16:31:20] Izvr: а стандартный сериализатор несколько ограничивает меня в моих желаниях
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[17:28:43] qzip: камрады, а где в наше время взять pybb?
[17:28:49] qzip: на pybb.org какая-то рекламная майня, а hg.pydev.ru не отвечает
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[17:30:02] xa4a: http://bitbucket.org/lorien/pybb/
[17:30:34] qzip: спасибо
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[18:34:41] Yegor Kowalew: mishok13, это просто какой-то ппц... задача нереально проста, найти <p bla-bla>text</p> и разобрать чтоб остался только text.. уже два часа ищу и не могу понять как это сделать
[18:35:28] tilarids: Yegor Kowalew, import re
[18:35:54] Yegor Kowalew: хотелось с помощью lxml сделать
[18:35:57] mishok13: /me вхуярил tilarids лопатой
[18:36:06] piranha: +1
[18:36:16] piranha: tilarids: ты стал последователем Жеки?
[18:36:18] piranha: ;)
[18:36:26] tilarids: mishok13, за что? o_O
[18:36:36] tilarids: отличный способ что-то найти
[18:36:39] cutwater: Yegor Kowalew, у тебя xml или html ? все таки через lxml невалидный документ не очень парсить
[18:36:40] piranha: надо через два дня начать форсить еще триггеры? :)
[18:36:46] Yegor Kowalew: html
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[18:36:55] cutwater: Beautiful Soup
[18:37:09] mishok13: Yegor Kowalew, tree.xpath('./p[@blabla]/text()')
[18:37:22] cutwater: правда по мне Beautiful Soup говно. она не смогла распарсить банальную ошибку в html
[18:37:30] SV0L0CH: s/\<.*?\>//g;
[18:37:38] tilarids: piranha, и я не знаю, хуиз Жека
[18:37:47] piranha: xa4a
[18:37:55] tilarids: а
[18:38:06] tilarids: он тоже любит re?
[18:38:21] Yegor Kowalew: mishok13, что tree.xpath('./p[@blabla]/text()') сделает?
[18:38:47] mishok13: ну, ты знаешь что такое XPath?
[18:38:55] piranha: tilarids: чрезмерно
[18:38:57] SV0L0CH: XPath: /p/text()
[18:39:01] Yegor Kowalew: там где bla-bla там может быть любой атрибут
[18:39:07] mishok13: и?
[18:39:24] mishok13: или я по твоему не понял этого?
[18:39:25] Yegor Kowalew: а мне надо чтоб в итоге остался только text
[18:39:43] SV0L0CH: вообще /text()
[18:39:52] tilarids: piranha, ну, в данном случае использование re более чем оправдано. Если вот именно нужно найти и вытащить, тут же плевать на структуру
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[18:40:23] Yegor Kowalew: плевать, мне надо по всему документу убить допустим <p>
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[18:40:45] piranha: tilarids: есть ощущение, что задача усложнится сразу после решения
[18:40:53] piranha: но ваще я б юзал бьютифулсуп просто %)
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[18:41:21] SV0L0CH: /text() работает так же как и s/\<.*?\>//g;
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[18:42:00] tilarids: piranha, /me не телепат, у меня нет таких ощущений. А меня бац - и лопатой
[18:42:27] piranha: tilarids: хм, при таком долгом времяпроведении в конфе уже пора б стать телепатом ;)
[18:42:53] SV0L0CH: /me всего телепает
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[18:45:57] tilarids: piranha, телепатию надо сдерживать. Ибо инициатива наказуема
[18:46:19] tilarids: а Yegor Kowalew описывал задачу? Может, он в который раз парсит поиск гугла?
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[18:50:50] Yegor Kowalew: я не парсю поиск гугла. задача - пройтись по таблице и выбрить с <tr> и <td> абсолютно весь мусор кроме collspan="_" и rowspan="_". Вот такая вот задача
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[18:51:28] Yegor Kowalew: collspan="любое число" и rowspan="любое число"
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[18:52:17] Yegor Kowalew: слава боку что я уже научился таблицу приводить к общему виду...
[18:52:31] SV0L0CH: это уже совсем другая задача
[18:52:44] SV0L0CH: Yegor Kowalew: пиши XSLT
[18:52:45] piranha: tilarids: ну видишь, а ты говоришь ;)
[18:52:48] Yegor Kowalew: это глобальная)))
[18:52:54] piranha: гыгы
[18:52:59] piranha: бьютифулсупчег
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[18:54:42] Yegor Kowalew: в данный момент я from lxml.html.clean import Cleaner, text_tbl = cleaner.clean_html(text_tbl) потом - text_tbl = re.sub('class="[a-zA-Z0-9]*"|align="[a-zA-Z0-9]*"|valign="[a-zA-Z0-9]*"| bgcolor="[\#a-zA-Z0-9]*"| width="[\#\%a-zA-Z0-9]*"| id="[\#\%a-zA-Z0-9]*"| lang="[\#\%a-zA-Z0-9]*"', "", text_tbl)
[18:55:00] Yegor Kowalew: но это не выход
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[18:55:52] piranha: ололо
[18:55:59] klichuk: лоло
[18:56:00] piranha: tilarids: ^^^
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[18:57:01] Yegor Kowalew: смеётесь с меня?
[18:57:45] SV0L0CH: Yegor Kowalew: ну не грустить же.... ;-)
[18:57:58] piranha: не, я больше смеюсь от того, что телепатия не подводит меня вот уже который год %)
[18:58:00] Yegor Kowalew: вобщем вот такое http://dumpz.org/11981/
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[18:58:47] Yegor Kowalew: это можно считать нормальным кодом или нет?
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[18:59:06] piranha: не
[18:59:08] piranha: Yegor Kowalew: http://my.piranha.org.ua/sanit.py
[18:59:19] piranha: вот в принципе я когда-то давно делал чистилку хтмл
[18:59:26] piranha: можешь поизучать и заюзать что-нить
[18:59:37] SV0L0CH: какой ужос!
[18:59:46] piranha: правда, я не уверен в том, что я б сейчас так же писал, но по крайней мере это не регеспы
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[19:00:11] feedbot: Python/Django blog indexing service for sale on eBay http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9g8i3/pythondjango_blog_indexing_service_for_sale_on/
[19:00:11] piranha: та суперб
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[19:01:29] Yegor Kowalew: piranha, для меня Ваш код пока что вообще нечитаем)))
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[19:02:12] piranha: можно на ты, легче ж для восприятия
[19:02:21] red-agent: piranha, Хуле ты докстринги-то лепишь сразу после """ без лайнфида?
[19:02:24] red-agent: Выглядит криво.
[19:02:55] piranha: а мне нравицо
[19:03:17] piranha: для меня первая строка - как сабж
[19:03:26] piranha: однострочное описание втф, а ниже уже раскрытие темы
[19:03:44] piranha: ну я сча на код втыкаю... нах все эти объекты, наверное сейчас бы обошëлся без них %)
[19:04:41] Yegor Kowalew: мдаа... вопчем мне еще надо много книжек прочитать
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[19:05:46] piranha: блин, ну у меня и апи получилось там :(
[19:05:58] piranha: red-agent: там кривые не докстринги, там кривое апи!
[19:06:12] piranha: повтыкай тока на safehtml()
[19:06:15] piranha: :(
[19:06:16] red-agent: Ну докстринг -- первое, что бросается в глаза.
[19:06:28] piranha: прям втыкаю и стыдно за себя
[19:06:32] piranha: жесть ваще
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[19:07:10] piranha: Yegor Kowalew: тебе собсна интересен HtmlCleaner.cleaner
[19:08:10] Yegor Kowalew: piranha, смотру...
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[19:11:20] tilarids: мда, надо записываться на курсы телепатии.
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[19:15:09] tilarids: SV0L0CH, нет, в таком случае я не согласен обучаться. Буду продолжать отвечать на задаваемые вопросы, а не на подразумеваемые
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[21:53:12] gigimon: товарищи, подскажите пожалуйста. как на js получить такое:
от сервера принимаю json, мне его надо добавлять в переменную (object) и обращаться к нему потом к нему и получать из него данные. JSON выглядит так:
{"small": "static/images/20090901/860b9caf307eaf0e283e392c4d9de09f_m.jpg",
"big": "static/images/20090901/860b9caf307eaf0e283e392c4d9de09f.jpg"}

Хочу получить такое:
{ file1:
{"small": "static/images/20090901/860b9caf307eaf0e283e392c4d9de09f_m.jpg",
"big": "static/images/20090901/860b9caf307eaf0e283e392c4d9de09f.jpg"},
file2: {"small": "static/images/20090901/860b9caf307eaf0e283e392c4d9de09f_m.jpg",
"big": "static/images/20090901/860b9caf307eaf0e283e392c4d9de09f.jpg"}}
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[21:54:50] gigimon: если делаю так: var files = {}
files += {file1:request}
а потом пытаюсь обратиться files.file1.big то firebug пишет ошибку, что file1 undefined
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[21:56:13] pymonk: slav0nic, а я не есть школьник )
[21:56:33] SV0L0CH: gigimon: file.filew=request;
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[21:58:09] SV0L0CH: gigimon: это тебе не питон ;-)
[21:58:15] gigimon: SV0L0CH: а если например file1 тоже переменная? так прокатит?
[21:58:19] gigimon: SV0L0CH: та я понимаю (
[21:59:16] SV0L0CH: file1 это поле
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[21:59:35] SV0L0CH: можно писать file.file1=file1
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[21:59:53] gigimon: SV0L0CH: понял, попробовал, спс)
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[22:00:17] SV0L0CH: и вообще это оффтоп, идём в javascript@
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