[00:00:09] feedbot is now online
[00:00:10] feedbot: Jython 2.5.1 Release Candidate 1 is out! http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9gahf/jython_251_release_candidate_1_is_out/
[00:00:14] feedbot is now offline
[00:00:24] red-agent is now offline
[00:00:39] Yegor Kowalew is now online
[00:00:46] slav0nic is now online
[00:02:29] erraen is now online
[00:07:14] GrimbleGromble is now online
[00:07:31] erraen is now online
[00:08:45] Effgen is now online
[00:09:19] Effgen is now offline
[00:09:33] Effgen is now online
[00:12:14] GrimbleGromble is now away
[00:12:30] erraen is now online
[00:15:14] jedgar is now away
[00:17:32] erraen is now online
[00:18:47] red-agent is now online
[00:19:44] xa4a is now away
[00:20:51] Yegor Kowalew is now offline
[00:21:18] Yegor Kowalew is now online
[00:22:14] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[00:22:31] erraen is now online
[00:22:56] xa4a is now online
[00:27:31] erraen is now online
[00:30:24] Большой Лис is now offline
[00:31:15] jedgar is now online
[00:32:31] erraen is now online
[00:36:20] tilarids is now away
[00:37:19] tilarids is now online
[00:37:32] erraen is now online
[00:42:32] erraen is now online
[00:43:42] Александp is now away
[00:45:10] red-agent is now away
[00:45:14] slav0nic is now offline
[00:46:46] red-agent is now online
[00:46:59] tilarids is now away
[00:47:09] tilarids is now online
[00:47:15] GrimbleGromble is now online
[00:47:32] erraen is now online
[00:48:09] xa4a is now away
[00:49:17] GrimbleGromble is now offline
[00:52:09] xa4a is now offline
[00:52:10] jedgar is now offline
[00:52:11] jedgar is now online
[00:52:12] jedgar is now online
[00:52:32] erraen is now online
[00:53:42] Александp is now xa
[00:54:49] tilarids is now away
[00:54:56] SV0L0CH is now xa
[00:57:33] erraen is now online
[01:01:59] Effgen is now offline
[01:02:34] erraen is now online
[01:04:48] tilarids is now xa
[01:05:10] cutwater is now offline
[01:07:02] Effgen is now online
[01:07:35] erraen is now online
[01:11:33] zulorflare is now online
[01:12:35] erraen is now online
[01:15:35] Effgen is now offline
[01:17:33] Yegor Kowalew is now away
[01:17:36] erraen is now online
[01:18:15] Yegor Kowalew is now online
[01:21:23] Yegor Kowalew is now offline
[01:22:36] erraen is now online
[01:27:37] erraen is now online
[01:32:38] erraen is now online
[01:37:39] erraen is now online
[01:38:34] Александp is now online
[01:42:39] erraen is now online
[01:43:36] Александp is now away
[01:47:40] erraen is now online
[01:52:41] erraen is now online
[01:53:36] Александp is now xa
[01:56:38] erraen is now offline
[02:00:09] feedbot is now online
[02:00:10] feedbot: Не надо больше таких сайтов! http://webnewage.org/2009/09/02/no-more-such-sites/
[02:00:14] feedbot is now offline
[02:38:43] Александp is now online
[02:43:37] Александp is now away
[02:43:54] SV0L0CH is now offline
[02:53:37] Александp is now xa
[03:09:15] lievil is now offline
[03:09:16] lievil is now away
[03:12:19] v-kolosov is now xa
[03:55:54] v-kolosov is now online
[03:59:25] red-agent is now away
[04:01:13] red-agent is now online
[04:05:59] v-kolosov is now away
[04:06:00] v-kolosov is now online
[04:06:23] red-agent is now away
[04:09:33] red-agent is now online
[04:32:40] v-kolosov is now away
[04:32:41] v-kolosov is now online
[05:18:34] red-agent is now away
[05:20:20] red-agent is now online
[05:31:18] tilarids is now online
[05:36:18] tilarids is now away
[05:36:37] v-kolosov is now offline
[05:37:52] v-kolosov is now online
[05:46:18] tilarids is now xa
[06:00:07] feedbot is now online
[06:00:09] feedbot: What's a good cross-platform replacement for wxPython now that Snow Leopard's made it obsolete? http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9geor/whats_a_good_crossplatform_replacement_for/
[06:00:12] feedbot is now offline
[06:05:46] red-agent is now away
[06:13:16] red-agent is now offline
[06:13:32] red-agent is now away
[06:15:46] red-agent is now xa
[06:17:01] jedgar is now away
[06:18:31] Александp is now online
[06:30:24] Александp is now away
[06:30:50] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[06:32:48] Александp is now online
[06:36:55] jedgar is now online
[06:45:37] Александp is now away
[06:49:09] Александp is now online
[06:53:22] Александp is now away
[06:53:24] Александp is now online
[07:00:51] v-kolosov is now away
[07:00:52] v-kolosov is now online
[07:05:51] v-kolosov is now away
[07:08:00] mishok13 is now offline
[07:08:13] mishok13 is now xa
[07:15:51] v-kolosov is now xa
[07:16:03] Александp is now offline
[07:30:51] v-kolosov is now online
[07:35:53] v-kolosov is now away
[07:38:20] Ляпатяпа is now online
[07:40:40] eye is now online
[07:45:53] v-kolosov is now xa
[07:56:11] v-kolosov is now online
[08:00:08] feedbot is now online
[08:00:10] feedbot: PyMOTW: decimal - Fixed and floating point math http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9gg1d/pymotw_decimal_fixed_and_floating_point_math/
[08:00:13] feedbot is now offline
[08:05:05] v-kolosov is now offline
[08:08:01] ilnur.soft is now online
[08:08:03] ilnur.soft is now offline
[08:20:51] sevenov is now away
[08:24:51] cutwater is now online
[08:35:07] tilarids is now online
[08:40:03] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[08:41:07] tilarids is now away
[08:44:13] Ляпатяпа is now xa
[08:44:18] Ляпатяпа is now online
[08:46:13] red-agent is now offline
[08:46:29] red-agent is now xa
[08:49:55] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[08:49:56] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[08:50:06] Ляпатяпа: по south: мне надо пересохранить всю таблицу, такой вариант сойдет?
def forwards(self, orm):
# Adding field 'Profile.signature_html'
db.add_column('pybb_profile', 'signature_html', orm['pybb.profile:signature_html'])
[profile.save() for profile in Profile.objects.all()]
[08:51:07] tilarids is now xa
[08:54:36] piranha is now away
[09:02:20] mdn is now online
[09:02:21] mdn is now online
[09:05:37] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[09:06:28] erraen is now online
[09:06:29] erraen is now online
[09:06:31] erraen is now online
[09:06:32] erraen is now online
[09:08:06] лорд Морфий is now away
[09:08:10] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[09:09:15] mishok13 is now online
[09:09:59] erraen is now online
[09:10:00] erraen is now online
[09:14:49] mishok13 is now away
[09:15:00] erraen is now online
[09:15:01] erraen is now online
[09:15:53] Portnov is now online
[09:18:30] poltergeist is now online
[09:18:31] poltergeist is now online
[09:19:19] xa4a is now online
[09:20:00] erraen is now online
[09:20:01] erraen is now online
[09:20:17] Большой Лис is now online
[09:21:05] mishok13 is now online
[09:21:37] tilarids is now online
[09:25:01] erraen is now online
[09:25:03] erraen is now online
[09:30:01] erraen is now online
[09:30:02] erraen is now online
[09:31:08] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[09:34:25] StormChild is now away
[09:35:02] erraen is now online
[09:35:03] erraen is now online
[09:39:36] StormChild: рш
[09:40:02] erraen is now online
[09:40:03] erraen is now online
[09:42:35] cutwater is now away
[09:44:09] cutwater is now online
[09:45:02] erraen is now online
[09:45:03] erraen is now online
[09:45:57] Portnov is now away
[09:45:58] xa4a is now away
[09:48:12] cutwater is now xa
[09:50:02] erraen is now online
[09:50:03] erraen is now online
[09:50:22] xa4a is now online
[09:51:46] mdn is now offline
[09:51:56] Portnov is now online
[09:54:51] MAVr is now away
[09:54:54] MAVr is now away
[09:54:57] tilarids is now away
[09:55:02] erraen is now online
[09:55:03] erraen is now online
[09:55:06] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[09:55:57] tilarids is now online
[10:00:02] erraen is now online
[10:00:03] erraen is now online
[10:00:42] xa4a is now away
[10:01:25] zulorflare is now offline
[10:05:02] erraen is now online
[10:05:03] erraen is now online
[10:06:59] poltergeist is now away
[10:07:00] poltergeist is now away
[10:08:16] wonderfulll is now online
[10:08:17] wonderfulll is now online
[10:10:02] erraen is now online
[10:10:03] RaD is now online
[10:10:03] erraen is now online
[10:10:04] RaD is now online
[10:10:13] RaD is now online
[10:10:53] wonderfulll is now online
[10:11:24] poltergeist is now online
[10:25:20] erraen is now online
[10:25:20] erraen is now online
[10:25:20] RaD is now online
[10:25:20] wonderfulll is now online
[10:25:20] cutwater is now offline
[10:25:21] eye is now offline
[10:25:21] erraen is now online
[10:25:21] erraen is now online
[10:25:21] RaD is now online
[10:25:21] StormChild is now offline
[10:25:21] denz is now offline
[10:25:21] wonderfulll is now online
[10:25:21] PC is now online
[10:25:21] tilarids is now away
[10:25:21] Portnov is now offline
[10:25:21] mishok13 is now offline
[10:25:21] erraen is now online
[10:25:21] erraen is now online
[10:25:21] RaD is now online
[10:25:24] mishok13 is now online
[10:25:53] wonderfulll is now online
[10:27:12] nmk is now online
[10:27:19] tilarids is now online
[10:30:02] erraen is now online
[10:30:03] erraen is now online
[10:30:13] RaD is now online
[10:30:53] wonderfulll is now online
[10:33:17] tilarids is now away
[10:34:48] poltergeist is now dnd
[10:34:49] poltergeist is now dnd
[10:35:02] erraen is now online
[10:35:03] erraen is now online
[10:35:13] RaD is now online
[10:35:53] wonderfulll is now online
[10:39:24] kryklia is now online
[10:39:25] kryklia is now online
[10:39:28] kryklia is now online
[10:39:29] kryklia is now online
[10:40:03] erraen is now online
[10:40:04] erraen is now online
[10:40:13] RaD is now online
[10:40:23] kryklia is now online
[10:40:53] wonderfulll is now online
[10:42:20] PC is now away
[10:42:51] MAVr is now away
[10:43:17] tilarids is now xa
[10:43:51] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[10:45:02] erraen is now online
[10:45:03] erraen is now online
[10:45:14] RaD is now online
[10:45:24] kryklia is now online
[10:45:54] wonderfulll is now online
[10:50:03] erraen is now online
[10:50:04] erraen is now online
[10:50:14] RaD is now online
[10:50:24] kryklia is now online
[10:50:54] wonderfulll is now online
[10:51:45] kryklia is now away
[10:51:46] kryklia is now away
[10:52:20] PC is now xa
[10:53:39] Ferroman is now online
[10:55:03] erraen is now online
[10:55:04] erraen is now online
[10:55:14] RaD is now online
[10:55:24] kryklia is now away
[10:55:44] Ferroman is now offline
[10:55:54] wonderfulll is now online
[10:57:18] PC is now online
[11:00:03] erraen is now online
[11:00:04] erraen is now online
[11:00:14] RaD is now online
[11:00:25] kryklia is now away
[11:00:54] wonderfulll is now online
[11:02:20] PC is now away
[11:05:03] erraen is now online
[11:05:04] erraen is now online
[11:05:14] RaD is now online
[11:05:26] kryklia is now away
[11:05:54] wonderfulll is now online
[11:08:40] PC is now online
[11:09:11] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:10:03] erraen is now online
[11:10:04] erraen is now online
[11:10:14] RaD is now online
[11:10:23] 0lejka is now away
[11:10:26] kryklia is now away
[11:10:55] wonderfulll is now online
[11:11:21] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[11:11:46] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:13:11] kryklia is now online
[11:13:11] kryklia is now online
[11:13:26] Большой Лис: tilarids, по-моему у тебя было про более простой переход в normal мод (<esc>) в vim... или то у xa4a
[11:13:34] Большой Лис: в сместо esc давить что то более поближе
[11:15:45] erraen is now online
[11:15:45] erraen is now online
[11:15:45] RaD is now online
[11:15:45] kryklia is now online
[11:15:55] wonderfulll is now online
[11:17:42] MAVr is now away
[11:17:59] sevenov: Большой Лис, дык в конфиге можно esc забиндить на другой хоткей
[11:18:02] sevenov: разве нет?
[11:18:08] Большой Лис: http://allaboutvim.blogspot.com/2008/03/esc-vim.html
[11:18:12] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:18:52] wonderfulll is now offline
[11:18:59] kryklia is now away
[11:19:00] kryklia is now away
[11:19:23] Большой Лис: sevenov, Ctrl+[ уже есть готовый биндинг :)
[11:19:40] sevenov: Большой Лис, он не лучше )
[11:20:03] jedgar is now away
[11:20:04] erraen is now online
[11:20:05] erraen is now online
[11:20:08] sevenov: win+alt+qdfr*75 -- вот это по мне
[11:20:11] sevenov: ггг
[11:20:14] RaD is now online
[11:20:26] kryklia is now away
[11:23:46] Большой Лис: sevenov, в ноутпаде проблем с esc нет ;)
[11:24:49] sevenov: notepad - это самый трушный редактор. Там тебе и с автокомплитом проблем нет, и с хайлайтом. С эскейпом уж и подавно ))
[11:25:04] erraen is now online
[11:25:05] erraen is now online
[11:25:14] RaD is now online
[11:25:26] kryklia is now away
[11:25:50] tilarids is now offline
[11:26:13] tilarids is now xa
[11:26:21] tilarids is now xa
[11:26:39] tilarids is now offline
[11:26:46] tilarids is now online
[11:27:04] tilarids is now xa
[11:27:09] tilarids is now xa
[11:27:23] Большой Лис: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip783
[11:27:35] tilarids is now offline
[11:27:58] tilarids is now online
[11:28:16] tilarids is now xa
[11:28:20] tilarids is now xa
[11:28:25] tilarids is now offline
[11:28:44] tilarids is now online
[11:28:51] tilarids is now offline
[11:29:02] tilarids is now xa
[11:29:09] tilarids is now xa
[11:30:04] erraen is now online
[11:30:05] erraen is now online
[11:30:14] RaD is now online
[11:30:27] kryklia is now away
[11:31:41] лорд Морфий is now xa
[11:35:04] erraen is now online
[11:35:05] erraen is now online
[11:35:14] RaD is now online
[11:35:27] kryklia is now away
[11:36:53] tilarids_ is now online
[11:38:15] tilarids_ is now offline
[11:38:39] tilarids_ is now online
[11:38:52] Effgen is now online
[11:39:28] Optik is now online
[11:39:30] Optik is now online
[11:39:30] slav0nic is now online
[11:39:31] Optik is now online
[11:40:04] erraen is now online
[11:40:05] erraen is now online
[11:40:07] mishok13: http://www.linux.org.ru/view-message.jsp?msgid=4004212 <-- плеер от A2K
[11:40:15] RaD is now online
[11:40:26] kryklia is now away
[11:40:32] RaD: лучше бы kdenlive для убунты собрали
[11:40:40] mishok13: /me рыдает
[11:41:39] RaD: ещё бы простую просматривалку фоток, с возможностью правки exif (это потому что у меня в фотике отмер датчик ориентации фотега) и теперь фотки хрен перевернёшь автоматом
[11:41:47] slav0nic: делать народу нефиг
[11:43:15] jedgar is now online
[11:43:23] Optik is now away
[11:43:25] Optik is now away
[11:43:56] mishok13: except:
continue
[11:44:13] mishok13: писака хуев
[11:44:24] RaD: вот урод
[11:44:31] Большой Лис: гаг
[11:44:35] mishok13: if tgs.has_key(name):
[11:44:52] mishok13: ничего не слушает, сколько ему не говори
[11:45:04] erraen is now online
[11:45:05] erraen is now online
[11:45:15] RaD is now online
[11:45:27] kryklia is now away
[11:50:04] erraen is now online
[11:50:05] erraen is now online
[11:50:15] RaD is now online
[11:50:26] kryklia is now away
[11:54:55] piranha: http://www.codexon.com/posts/memory-size-of-python-objects
[11:55:04] erraen is now online
[11:55:05] erraen is now online
[11:55:13] kryklia is now away
[11:55:15] RaD is now online
[11:55:27] kryklia is now away
[11:58:13] jedgar is now away
[11:58:44] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[12:00:04] erraen is now online
[12:00:05] erraen is now online
[12:00:16] RaD is now online
[12:00:28] kryklia is now away
[12:01:05] Ferroman is now online
[12:01:14] Ferroman is now offline
[12:03:23] Optik is now xa
[12:03:25] Optik is now xa
[12:05:05] erraen is now online
[12:05:06] erraen is now online
[12:05:16] RaD is now online
[12:05:28] kryklia is now away
[12:07:27] bobry: коментарии на лоре как и всегда..хах
[12:09:08] slav0nic is now away
[12:10:04] erraen is now online
[12:10:05] erraen is now online
[12:10:16] RaD is now online
[12:10:23] piranha: интерфейс говно, не говоря уже об остальном
[12:10:27] piranha: :-)
[12:10:29] kryklia is now away
[12:10:43] bobry: ты про плеер?
[12:10:47] piranha: ага
[12:11:10] bobry: эх вы) поддержали бы парня, а то все в один голос прямо
[12:11:20] Большой Лис: я не понял...а что амарок умер?
[12:11:22] piranha: та как тебе сказать....
[12:11:38] v-kolosov is now away
[12:11:40] v-kolosov is now offline
[12:11:40] bobry: piranha: или пусть лучше сделает "что нибудь полезное"?
[12:11:48] piranha: не, пускай продолжает
[12:11:53] bobry: Большой Лис: для среднего пользователя ЛОРа уже давно
[12:11:56] v-kolosov is now Автостатус 'Отошел' из-за бездействия пользователя.
[12:11:57] v-kolosov is now away
[12:12:06] piranha: ну да ладно, его первый опенсорсный проект, пускай долбицо об грабли
[12:12:16] piranha: хотя код, конечно, ëманарот
[12:12:21] bobry: пример можно?
[12:12:29] piranha: пример чего?
[12:12:32] bobry: просто интересно, bad practices
[12:12:39] piranha: выше ж писали уже
[12:12:55] bobry: if tgs.has_key(name) ?
[12:13:23] bobry: ну с except: continue все понятно, а с этим что не так?
[12:13:24] tilarids is now offline
[12:13:42] piranha: if name in tags
[12:14:04] piranha: хехе, лориен в киев едет
[12:14:06] piranha: %)
[12:14:17] tilarids is now xa
[12:14:29] tilarids is now xa
[12:14:55] kryklia is now away
[12:15:05] erraen is now online
[12:15:06] erraen is now online
[12:15:12] bobry: piranha: а почему нужно использовать in tags? в чем принципиальная разница? это же вроде как syntactic sugar - только и всего
[12:15:16] RaD is now online
[12:15:22] piranha: скорость
[12:15:27] piranha: has_key - deprecated
[12:15:29] kryklia is now away
[12:15:40] piranha: букав меньше!
[12:15:49] v-kolosov is now xa
[12:16:04] bobry: оо, я и не знал что оно deprecated
[12:16:23] piranha: https://sites.google.com/site/cuberok/home/screenshot - один хер
[12:16:31] piranha: фубар круче их всех :(
[12:16:37] bobry: w32
[12:16:48] piranha: это проблема, конечно
[12:17:20] RaD: лучше бы фотоархив сделал кошерный
[12:17:23] bobry: тут на лоре был какой то плеер недавно со странным названием
[12:17:31] bobry: RaD: f-spot?
[12:17:58] RaD: ща глянем
[12:18:20] RaD: а оно может вертеть картинку не изменяя её?
[12:18:59] bobry: в смысле не изменяя?
[12:19:08] slav0nic is now xa
[12:19:21] RaD: ну, где-то в картинке ставить метку, повернуть на 90 градусов при показе
[12:19:47] bobry: аа, дык это ж можно из exif читать
[12:19:49] RaD: acdsee умеет это с XX века
[12:19:59] Optik is now offline
[12:20:03] RaD: можно, но у меня сдох этот датчик в фотике :)
[12:20:05] erraen is now online
[12:20:06] erraen is now online
[12:20:16] RaD is now online
[12:20:16] bobry: но я про фспот точно не скажу, там плагин можно дописать, если уж нету и нада
[12:20:19] RaD: хотелось бы вручную указать и сохранить
[12:20:28] RaD: а так ниче, нравицо
[12:20:30] kryklia is now away
[12:20:36] bobry: он достаточно удобный
[12:20:51] bobry: есть еще kamera или как там оно под kde
[12:20:58] RaD: kamera - калл
[12:21:00] bobry: не, наверное как то подругому
[12:21:09] RaD: я понял про что ты
[12:21:19] bobry: ну да)
[12:21:40] RaD: особенно бесит то, что они сами ЗНАЮТ как надо хранить фотки
[12:22:02] RaD: у меня архив сформированный с годами, а они импортируют эти фотки в свой каталог, это пипец
[12:22:23] RaD: сцуко, запомни где лежит фотки и сохрани инфу о ней в своём кеше
[12:22:24] mishok13 is now away
[12:22:27] bobry: да, это неприятно, почему нельзя задать директории ббиблиотеки
[12:22:33] bobry: ну или так
[12:22:57] v-kolosov is now Автостатус 'Отошел' из-за бездействия пользователя.
[12:23:01] RaD: а писать своё лениво :)
[12:23:16] RaD: а экспортом на ЦД пользовался?
[12:23:39] sevenov: bobry, vplayer? Это же A2K писал.
[12:23:45] bobry: ухух
[12:23:51] RaD: оно ставит фотке метку "экспортировано на ЦД номер такойто"?
[12:24:01] bobry: не, ни разу не пользовался)
[12:24:06] bobry: тоже через зад?)
[12:24:16] RaD: да хз, посмотреть надо
[12:24:44] bobry: с фотика долго импортирует, по моим ощущениям
[12:25:05] erraen is now online
[12:25:06] erraen is now online
[12:25:16] RaD is now online
[12:25:29] kryklia is now away
[12:25:30] RaD: фак, оно делает PhotoCD, т.е. это не дамп
[12:25:41] RaD: я предпочитаю тупо копировать флешку
[12:25:50] tilarids_: где-то я слышал, что разные версии меркуриала не совместимы на уровне формата репозитория. Фигню я слышал или как?
[12:25:59] RaD: а в доках че?
[12:26:53] RaD: требования к просматривалке: просматривать фотки, фуллскрин, слайдшой, вызов редактора, верчение, правка exif - больше ничего не надо
[12:27:00] piranha: tilarids: вот если физически, то старые версии хг могут не прочесть новую версию репозитория
[12:27:13] piranha: например, 1.0 у 1.1 не прочтëт, потому что добавили фолдинг имëн
[12:27:17] piranha: чтоб бороться с виндой
[12:27:23] tilarids_: фак :(
[12:27:31] RaD: hg калл
[12:27:38] tilarids_: согласен
[12:27:43] piranha: ммм... я не помню, в общем, где и кто там несовместим, но после 1.1 не было изменений
[12:28:01] piranha: ;) смешно
[12:28:22] bobry: почему калл?
[12:28:39] tilarids_: почему с двумя "л"?
[12:29:08] tilarids_: или что тебя интересует?
[12:29:09] bobry: лол
[12:29:39] mishok13 is now online
[12:29:51] bobry: ошибся, голова не работает совсем, меня интересует что с hg не так?
[12:29:56] Ляпатяпа is now away
[12:30:05] erraen is now online
[12:30:06] erraen is now online
[12:30:16] RaD is now online
[12:30:29] kryklia is now away
[12:30:49] piranha: им гит мозги пожрал ;)
[12:31:04] tilarids_: hg испортился за последнее время
[12:31:16] tilarids_: раньше был лучше и понятней гита. А потом взял и испортился
[12:31:32] mishok13: ВНЕЗАПНО
[12:31:33] mishok13: простите
[12:31:35] piranha: открыть тайну? :)
[12:31:49] tilarids_: не, не внезапно. Где-то с мая
[12:31:57] piranha: это не хг испортился ;)
[12:32:01] Effgen is now away
[12:32:05] piranha: ну так ВНЕЗАПНО В МАЕ
[12:32:35] Большой Лис: piranha, а что?
[12:32:38] Большой Лис: моцк?
[12:32:51] tilarids_: нене, ты не понял. ВНЕЗАПНО В МАЕ он был еще нормальный, а потом ВНЕЗАПНО В ИЮЛЕ уже оказался дрянью
[12:33:06] piranha: Большой Лис: ну да
[12:33:37] Большой Лис: значит гит более "сильнодействующие вещества" :)
[12:34:02] bobry: lol
[12:34:05] Effgen is now online
[12:34:06] piranha: ну это ж ваще психотропная шняга
[12:35:07] erraen is now online
[12:35:07] erraen is now online
[12:35:15] RaD is now online
[12:35:29] kryklia is now away
[12:35:31] mishok13: http://www.explosm.net/comics/513/
[12:38:17] RaD is now away
[12:38:18] RaD is now away
[12:40:04] erraen is now online
[12:40:05] erraen is now online
[12:40:15] RaD is now away
[12:40:29] kryklia is now away
[12:41:06] Portnov is now away
[12:41:42] v-kolosov is now away
[12:41:43] v-kolosov is now Автостатус 'Отошел' из-за бездействия пользователя.
[12:44:51] Portnov is now online
[12:45:04] erraen is now online
[12:45:05] erraen is now online
[12:45:15] RaD is now away
[12:45:29] kryklia is now away
[12:45:52] pymonk is now online
[12:46:43] v-kolosov is now away
[12:46:46] RaD is now online
[12:46:48] RaD is now online
[12:50:04] erraen is now online
[12:50:05] erraen is now online
[12:50:16] RaD is now online
[12:50:29] kryklia is now away
[12:52:39] Portnov is now away
[12:54:08] slav0nic is now online
[12:54:47] StormChild is now away
[12:55:04] erraen is now online
[12:55:05] erraen is now online
[12:55:10] piranha: я тащусь с дебиана
[12:55:15] Portnov is now online
[12:55:16] RaD is now online
[12:55:29] kryklia is now away
[12:55:30] piranha: jinja2 зависит от sphinx'a, sphinx - от jinja2, поэтому бек-портировать я их не могу прямым методом
[12:55:34] piranha: супер, просто супер!
[12:55:44] kryklia is now offline
[12:56:43] v-kolosov is now xa
[12:56:50] 0lejka is now away
[12:57:47] Большой Лис: ээ
[12:57:54] Большой Лис: а нафига sphinx - от jinja2?
[12:57:59] piranha: он им рисует
[12:58:04] piranha: он ей рисует в смысле
[12:58:33] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[12:58:51] piranha: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pydermonkey - как вам название? :))))
[12:59:15] Большой Лис: :D
[13:00:05] erraen is now online
[13:00:06] erraen is now online
[13:00:16] RaD is now online
[13:00:24] tilarids_: ну, если учитывать, что py читается как [пай], то нормально :)
[13:01:05] piranha: пайдеры идут, пайдеры идут,
спасайся кто может, гоймосеки там и тут!
[13:01:26] piranha: tilarids: а ты как говоришь, "пайтон"? :)
[13:01:43] tilarids_: piranha: иногда пай, иногда пи
[13:01:50] piranha: вот и я про шо ;)
[13:01:56] piranha: ошибиться можно, чëрт возьми ;)
[13:02:00] tilarids_: пи - это как просторечье
[13:02:02] piranha: обезьяна-пайдер
[13:02:16] tilarids_: пайдер-мэном попахивает
[13:02:32] kryklia is now away
[13:02:33] kryklia is now away
[13:02:33] kryklia is now away
[13:02:34] kryklia is now away
[13:02:35] piranha: ага
[13:02:42] piranha: но там же еще хжу
[13:02:44] piranha: *хуже
[13:03:18] Большой Лис is now away
[13:03:19] Большой Лис is now online
[13:05:06] erraen is now online
[13:05:06] erraen is now online
[13:05:16] RaD is now online
[13:05:23] kryklia is now away
[13:05:30] MAVr is now away
[13:06:44] PC is now away
[13:08:19] Большой Лис is now away
[13:10:06] erraen is now online
[13:10:07] erraen is now online
[13:10:17] RaD is now online
[13:10:24] kryklia is now away
[13:11:11] PC is now xa
[13:11:42] v-kolosov is now Автостатус 'Отошел' из-за бездействия пользователя.
[13:11:43] Typhon is now online
[13:15:07] erraen is now online
[13:15:08] erraen is now online
[13:15:17] RaD is now online
[13:15:24] kryklia is now away
[13:16:04] bobry: товарищи, а globals() юзать кошерно?
[13:16:17] PC is now online
[13:16:23] огыешсук is now dnd
[13:16:44] v-kolosov is now away
[13:18:20] Большой Лис is now xa
[13:20:08] erraen is now online
[13:20:08] erraen is now online
[13:20:17] RaD is now online
[13:20:25] kryklia is now away
[13:21:18] PC is now away
[13:21:47] mishok13: смотря для чего
[13:22:32] unk2k is now online
[13:23:13] unk2k: Здравствуйте великие! [django] Мне нужно написать свой метод аутентофикации. Скажите пожалуйста, как образуется request.user
[13:23:17] Большой Лис is now online
[13:23:56] bobry: mishok13: у меня там куча регулярок, я хочу все строки скомпилировать re.compile
[13:24:26] Мозгошредер is now away
[13:24:45] Typhon: а что мешает регулярки сложить в специальное место?
[13:24:49] Typhon: дикт или список?
[13:24:55] mishok13: эээ
[13:25:08] erraen is now online
[13:25:09] erraen is now online
[13:25:11] bobry: ничего не мешает
[13:25:17] RaD is now online
[13:25:26] kryklia is now away
[13:25:45] mishok13: если у тебя много регулярок, то мне даже интересно что у тебя за задача?
[13:26:04] bobry: парсинг
[13:26:15] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[13:26:44] v-kolosov is now xa
[13:26:50] bobry: правда я чето подумал) можно их посоединять вместе и тогда их станет немного
[13:26:53] mishok13: ну ок :)
[13:27:04] bobry: лана, извиняюсь за беспокойство)
[13:27:30] bobry: аа, последний вопрос
[13:27:34] PC is now online
[13:27:43] bobry: чем лучше регекспы проверять в nix?
[13:28:07] bobry: емаксовский regexp-builder не понимает питоновский синтаксис что то, может и можно его научить конечно
[13:28:19] Большой Лис is now away
[13:29:25] лорд Морфий is now away
[13:29:39] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[13:29:44] Мозгошредер is now offline
[13:29:45] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[13:30:00] bobry: беру свой вопрос назад, google уже помог
[13:30:09] erraen is now online
[13:30:10] erraen is now online
[13:30:17] RaD is now online
[13:30:26] kryklia is now away
[13:31:03] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[13:31:54] mishok13 is now away
[13:32:38] PC is now away
[13:33:00] RaD is now offline
[13:33:44] PC is now online
[13:34:03] piranha is now away
[13:34:23] RaD is now online
[13:34:24] RaD is now online
[13:35:08] erraen is now online
[13:35:09] erraen is now online
[13:35:27] kryklia is now away
[13:35:32] RaD is now online
[13:37:08] unk2k is now away
[13:37:20] unk2k is now online
[13:38:19] Большой Лис is now xa
[13:39:19] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[13:39:49] Мозгошредер is now away
[13:40:09] erraen is now online
[13:40:10] erraen is now online
[13:40:27] kryklia is now away
[13:40:32] RaD is now online
[13:41:50] kryklia is now offline
[13:41:54] mishok13 is now xa
[13:45:09] erraen is now online
[13:45:10] erraen is now online
[13:45:33] RaD is now online
[13:45:41] Большой Лис is now online
[13:48:29] GrimbleGromble is now online
[13:50:09] erraen is now online
[13:50:10] erraen is now online
[13:50:32] RaD is now online
[13:51:43] 0lejka is now away
[13:54:32] unk2k is now offline
[13:54:43] unk2k is now online
[13:55:09] erraen is now online
[13:55:10] erraen is now online
[13:55:33] RaD is now online
[13:57:18] unk2k is now away
[13:57:35] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[13:57:56] piranha is now away
[13:58:42] unk2k is now online
[14:00:10] erraen is now online
[14:00:11] erraen is now online
[14:00:33] RaD is now online
[14:04:09] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[14:05:10] erraen is now online
[14:05:11] erraen is now online
[14:05:33] RaD is now online
[14:07:16] pymonk is now offline
[14:10:10] erraen is now online
[14:10:11] erraen is now online
[14:10:33] RaD is now online
[14:11:42] v-kolosov is now Автостатус 'Отошел' из-за бездействия пользователя.
[14:13:14] mishok13 is now online
[14:14:16] огыешсук is now offline
[14:14:25] RaD is now offline
[14:14:27] огыешсук is now dnd
[14:15:10] erraen is now online
[14:15:11] erraen is now online
[14:16:44] v-kolosov is now away
[14:18:20] RaD is now online
[14:18:21] RaD is now online
[14:18:47] GrimbleGromble is now away
[14:19:21] лорд Морфий is now away
[14:19:30] RaD is now online
[14:19:37] GrimbleGromble is now online
[14:20:10] erraen is now online
[14:20:11] erraen is now online
[14:23:45] RaD: unk2k: посмотри на класс HttpRequest
[14:24:30] RaD is now online
[14:24:47] GrimbleGromble is now away
[14:25:10] erraen is now online
[14:25:11] erraen is now online
[14:26:44] v-kolosov is now xa
[14:28:16] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[14:29:30] RaD is now online
[14:29:47] GrimbleGromble is now online
[14:29:53] Ferroman is now online
[14:30:03] Ferroman is now offline
[14:30:09] erraen is now online
[14:30:10] erraen is now online
[14:32:39] Большой Лис is now away
[14:34:31] RaD is now online
[14:35:10] erraen is now online
[14:35:11] erraen is now online
[14:36:31] Большой Лис is now online
[14:38:27] GrimbleGromble is now away
[14:39:31] RaD is now online
[14:40:10] erraen is now online
[14:40:11] erraen is now online
[14:43:31] Effgen is now away
[14:44:31] RaD is now online
[14:44:43] bobry: товарищи, откуда None?
>>> re.search(r'(est)|(emp)', 'test temp').groups()
('est', None)
[14:45:06] bobry: типа вторая группа незаматчилась, посему None?
[14:45:10] erraen is now online
[14:45:12] erraen is now online
[14:45:27] GrimbleGromble is now online
[14:47:24] rulexec is now online
[14:47:35] tilarids_: bobry: findall?
[14:48:04] piranha: bobry: да
[14:48:09] tilarids_: а, тьфу
[14:48:16] tilarids_: nevermind
[14:48:30] piranha: (est|emp) делай просто
[14:48:39] tilarids_: /me неправильно стелепатировал
[14:48:42] tilarids is now offline
[14:48:43] rulexec: unk2k тут ещё?
[14:48:44] bobry: блин
[14:49:09] bobry: piranha: а если est и emp выражения и внутри их мне надо что то группировать? можно как нибудь от этого None избавиться?
[14:49:31] RaD is now online
[14:49:47] piranha: нет
[14:49:54] piranha: именуй группы и юзай их по именам
[14:49:59] unk2k: rulexec да
[14:50:11] erraen is now online
[14:50:12] erraen is now online
[14:50:21] unk2k: rulexec мне надо авторизацию через оракл сделать
[14:50:27] unk2k: но я нашел путь через зад
[14:52:42] rulexec: где можно почитать как юзать GTK?
[14:53:20] RaD: gtk.org?
[14:53:27] Effgen is now online
[14:53:28] unk2k: rulexec, хмм, я в свое время задался таким же вопросом, пришел к выводу что лучше смотреть исходники готового
[14:53:38] unk2k: RaD, gtk.org ты сам то там был ?*
[14:53:42] unk2k: RaD, там черт ногу сломит
[14:53:55] RaD: я даже по нему софтину делал
[14:54:20] RaD: а потом я узнал про qt :)
[14:54:24] rulexec: я на pygtk.org зашёл, но тут ангельски и что-то непонятное)
[14:54:32] RaD is now online
[14:54:33] Effgen is now offline
[14:54:44] rulexec: unk2k: http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/runk/django/contrib/auth/middleware.py о_О
[14:55:12] erraen is now online
[14:55:13] erraen is now online
[14:58:01] rulexec is now offline
[14:58:49] unk2k is now away
[14:59:32] RaD is now online
[15:00:11] erraen is now online
[15:00:12] erraen is now online
[15:01:47] tilarids_ is now away
[15:03:42] tilarids is now xa
[15:03:43] mefi73 is now online
[15:03:51] tilarids is now xa
[15:04:32] RaD is now online
[15:04:42] rulexec is now online
[15:04:47] rulexec: ура
[15:04:54] rulexec: я кажеться нашёл то что мне нужно
[15:04:58] rulexec: http://www.aeracode.org/2008/9/14/denormalisation-follies/
[15:05:06] rulexec: денормализация :D
[15:05:11] erraen is now online
[15:05:12] erraen is now online
[15:05:33] rulexec: осталось только понять как юзать models.DenormField() :D
[15:06:21] mefi73 is now offline
[15:06:29] unk2k is now online
[15:07:15] RaD: там же написано
[15:07:17] tilarids_ is now online
[15:07:25] RaD: кстати, хороший бложек, надо будет почитать
[15:07:48] лорд Морфий is now away
[15:09:32] RaD is now online
[15:10:11] erraen is now online
[15:10:12] erraen is now online
[15:12:10] rulexec: у меня просто другая проблема
[15:12:55] rulexec:
class Comment(models.Model):
nick = models.CharField(max_length=30)
body = models.TextField()
date = models.DateTimeField(auto_now_add=True)
[15:13:01] rulexec:
class People(models.Model):
nick = models.CharField(max_length=30)
comments = models.ManyToManyField(Comment)
count = models.IntegerField()
date = models.DateTimeField(auto_now=True)
[15:13:19] rulexec: мне нужно чтобы в count было количество комментариев
[15:14:31] RaD is now online
[15:14:37] rulexec: ааа
[15:15:11] erraen is now online
[15:15:12] erraen is now online
[15:15:25] rulexec: я думал стандартная фича джанги
[15:15:31] rulexec: тип поля
[15:15:35] rulexec: а это ихняя фича
[15:15:49] Portnov is now away
[15:16:48] rulexec: а она как я понимаю только значения других моделей берёт :(
[15:18:39] RaD is now away
[15:18:40] RaD is now away
[15:19:09] rulexec: неужели нет способа?
[15:19:28] piranha: способа чего?
[15:19:32] RaD is now away
[15:19:35] rulexec: [18:10:59] rulexec:
class Comment(models.Model):
nick = models.CharField(max_length=30)
body = models.TextField()
date = models.DateTimeField(auto_now_add=True)
[18:11:05] rulexec:
class People(models.Model):
nick = models.CharField(max_length=30)
comments = models.ManyToManyField(Comment)
count = models.IntegerField()
date = models.DateTimeField(auto_now=True)
[15:19:42] rulexec: есть 2 django модели
[15:20:10] rulexec: вторая связана с первой отношением many-to-many
[15:20:11] erraen is now online
[15:20:12] erraen is now online
[15:20:43] rulexec: и мне нужно сделать чтобы в поле count было количество первых моделек
[15:20:52] piranha: не, нету способа
[15:20:53] rulexec: всмысле отношений
[15:21:04] rulexec: да как это нету? =\
[15:21:10] piranha: тут еще проблема в том, что в джанге до сих пор на m2m отношениях нету сигналов
[15:21:17] RaD is now online
[15:21:18] RaD is now online
[15:21:31] piranha: т.е. если ты делаешь man.comments.add(comment), то нигде нифига не случается
[15:21:37] piranha: и словить ты это событие не можешь
[15:21:40] rulexec: :(
[15:21:43] mishok13 is now away
[15:21:45] piranha: клëво, скажи? ;)
[15:21:48] rulexec: ага
[15:21:50] rulexec: очень
[15:21:55] piranha: я уже года два тащусь по этой фиче ;)
[15:22:06] rulexec: ай
[15:22:25] rulexec: тогда...
[15:22:28] piranha: как вариант - идëшь в багтрекер джанге, находишь этот тикет, и патчишь джангу
[15:22:44] piranha: и тогда на сигнал вешаешь функцию, которая этот каунт менять будет
[15:22:55] rulexec: я по другому сделаю
[15:23:04] Portnov is now online
[15:23:15] pymonk is now online
[15:23:16] pymonk is now online
[15:23:19] unk2k is now away
[15:23:32] rulexec: сделаю пакет
[15:23:46] rulexec: фронтэнд к моделям о_О
[15:24:18] v-kolosov is now offline
[15:24:32] RaD is now online
[15:24:41] unk2k is now online
[15:24:50] rulexec: ыыы
[15:25:03] rulexec: получается фронтэнд к фронтэнду
[15:25:06] rulexec: :D
[15:25:10] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[15:25:11] mishok13 is now online
[15:25:11] erraen is now online
[15:25:12] erraen is now online
[15:26:01] rulexec: ну не могли же они блин...
[15:26:39] PC is now away
[15:26:46] rulexec: в модельках можно юзать класс Meta, сделали бы ещё класс какой, передавали бы туда инфу что именно они сейчас делают с моделью
[15:27:04] piranha: спецом для этого есть сигналы
[15:27:27] piranha: проблема в том, что добавление объектов в м2м отношение - это не "что-то делают с моделью"
[15:27:47] лорд Морфий is now xa
[15:27:58] GrimbleGromble is now away
[15:28:05] rulexec: (
[15:28:32] rulexec: хотя можно просто сделать триггер на postgres, но я в них не шарю совсем
[15:29:04] piranha: да и потом задолбëшься переносить за собой
[15:29:31] sevenov is now offline
[15:29:32] RaD is now online
[15:29:34] nmk: на джинже писать одно удовольствие
[15:29:50] piranha: угу
[15:30:11] erraen is now online
[15:30:12] erraen is now online
[15:30:28] rulexec: ай
[15:30:43] rulexec: походу придётся делать метод
[15:30:47] rulexec: *функцию
[15:31:28] rulexec: аля addcomment(nick='Rulexec',body='Бла-бла-бла')
[15:31:55] rulexec: которая будет уже сама там с модельками разбираться и заодно крутить этот count
[15:32:09] piranha: добавь метод к пиплам
[15:32:22] rulexec: писал бы на PHP, сделал бы так незадумываясь
[15:32:27] piranha: будешь делать типа man.addcomment(....)
[15:32:45] Мозгошредер is now offline
[15:32:55] pymonk is now offline
[15:32:57] pymonk is now online
[15:33:08] pymonk is now offline
[15:33:09] pymonk is now online
[15:33:10] pymonk is now online
[15:33:31] RaD: ээ, у меня есть модель, которая заполняется через админку, я правильно врубаюсь, раз мне надо сделать валидацию одного поля, то проще переопределить форму в админке и в самой форме реализовать clean_... ?
[15:34:32] RaD is now online
[15:34:33] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[15:34:52] piranha: типа да
[15:35:12] erraen is now online
[15:35:13] erraen is now online
[15:35:18] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[15:36:39] PC is now xa
[15:37:59] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[15:38:17] kryklia is now online
[15:38:18] kryklia is now online
[15:38:19] kryklia is now online
[15:38:20] kryklia is now online
[15:38:23] RaD: ага, делаю
[15:38:24] kryklia is now online
[15:38:25] kryklia is now online
[15:39:00] Typhon is now away
[15:39:03] rulexec is now offline
[15:39:32] RaD is now online
[15:40:12] erraen is now online
[15:40:13] erraen is now online
[15:41:24] Typhon is now online
[15:41:37] PC is now online
[15:41:49] mishok13 is now away
[15:42:42] kryklia is now online
[15:42:59] GrimbleGromble is now online
[15:43:16] kryklia is now away
[15:43:17] kryklia is now away
[15:44:32] RaD is now online
[15:45:13] erraen is now online
[15:45:13] erraen is now online
[15:46:00] RaD: сцуко, с первого раза заработало :)
[15:46:39] PC is now away
[15:47:08] piranha: RaD: тогда ожидай жопы ;)
[15:47:12] xa4a-m is now online
[15:47:40] RaD: не, даже на боевой выложилось без проблем
[15:47:43] kryklia is now away
[15:47:47] RaD: видать я стал джедаем :)
[15:48:31] xa4a-m: Дня
[15:48:45] xa4a-m: Ipod nano крут?
[15:48:56] xa4a-m: Круче шафла?
[15:49:00] pymonk is now offline
[15:49:33] RaD is now online
[15:50:13] erraen is now online
[15:50:14] erraen is now online
[15:50:22] wwarlock is now Думать - хорошо. А хорошо думать - еще лучше
[15:50:23] wwarlock is now Думать - хорошо. А хорошо думать - еще лучше
[15:51:47] mishok13 is now online
[15:51:54] wwarlock is now offline
[15:52:43] kryklia is now away
[15:54:32] RaD is now online
[15:55:13] erraen is now online
[15:55:14] erraen is now online
[15:55:15] bobry: а в stdlib ничего нет чтобы подобие шаблонизатора изобразить?
[15:55:27] RaD: в string
[15:55:32] RaD: есть
[15:55:44] Portnov is now away
[15:55:55] bobry: string.Template?
[15:55:56] Portnov is now online
[15:55:57] tilarids is now offline
[15:56:01] Большой Лис: угу
[15:56:02] 0lejka is now away
[15:56:30] bobry: я почему то думал что оно с 2.6
[15:56:34] bobry: оказалось нефига
[15:56:39] PC is now xa
[15:56:52] kryklia is now offline
[15:57:36] RaD: в 2.5 точно работает
[15:57:55] jedgar is now online
[15:59:33] RaD is now online
[16:00:07] feedbot is now online
[16:00:09] feedbot: sane_re.py - a nicer regex API for python http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9gjmz/sane_repy_a_nicer_regex_api_for_python/
[16:00:12] feedbot is now offline
[16:00:13] erraen is now online
[16:00:14] erraen is now online
[16:00:48] bobry: блин, там нет условного оператора
[16:01:53] tilarids is now online
[16:02:15] tilarids is now offline
[16:04:33] RaD is now online
[16:05:13] erraen is now online
[16:05:14] erraen is now online
[16:05:57] xa4a-m is now away
[16:06:32] Большой Лис is now away
[16:06:33] Большой Лис is now online
[16:07:56] jedgar is now away
[16:08:39] mishok13 is now away
[16:09:34] RaD is now online
[16:10:10] Effgen is now away
[16:10:13] erraen is now online
[16:10:14] erraen is now online
[16:11:07] kryklia is now online
[16:11:08] kryklia is now online
[16:11:09] cutwater is now online
[16:11:09] kryklia is now online
[16:11:10] kryklia is now online
[16:11:32] Большой Лис is now away
[16:11:37] PC is now online
[16:12:34] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[16:12:38] Большой Лис is now online
[16:14:01] mishok13 is now online
[16:14:34] RaD is now online
[16:14:55] kryklia is now online
[16:15:14] erraen is now online
[16:15:15] erraen is now online
[16:16:39] PC is now away
[16:17:02] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[16:19:14] xa4a-m is now online
[16:19:15] xa4a-m is now offline
[16:19:34] RaD is now online
[16:19:54] kryklia is now online
[16:20:00] kryklia is now away
[16:20:01] kryklia is now away
[16:20:13] StormChild is now offline
[16:20:15] erraen is now online
[16:20:16] erraen is now online
[16:22:41] jedgar is now online
[16:24:34] RaD is now online
[16:24:54] kryklia is now away
[16:25:15] erraen is now online
[16:25:16] erraen is now online
[16:26:39] PC is now xa
[16:27:34] RaD: камрады, нужны идеи, есть сайт - магазин, там естественно база, думаю сделать оффлайновое приложение, которое позволит наполнять базу, как бы это правильнее сделать?
[16:28:57] GrimbleGromble is now away
[16:29:35] RaD is now online
[16:29:47] GrimbleGromble is now online
[16:29:55] kryklia is now away
[16:29:55] Александp is now online
[16:30:15] erraen is now online
[16:30:16] erraen is now online
[16:31:25] erraen: оффлайновое - совсем оффлайновое? Тогда приложение по идее должно уметь получать схему данных с сервера (если она меняется, по мере разработки например), при необходимости - сами данные, сохранять созданные/измененные данные ну например в xml, потом загружать их на сервер, к-й разбирает полученные данные и кладет их в базу.
[16:31:27] mishok13 is now away
[16:31:51] erraen: Вариан номер два - держать копию базы, работать с ней, потом синхронизировать.
[16:32:10] erraen: Что там, что там - свои подводные камни.
[16:34:13] RaD: обычно снаружи редко кто даёт доступ к БД, и несмотря на то, что он у меня есть, будем считать что нет
[16:34:29] piranha: rest/json-rpc?
[16:34:36] RaD is now online
[16:34:52] RaD: я думаю сделать так, две утилиты, одна умеет базу превращать в plain text, вторая - изменения засовыватьв базу
[16:34:55] kryklia is now away
[16:35:07] mishok13 is now online
[16:35:09] RaD: а сам файл через rsync синхронизировать, когда в онлайне
[16:35:16] erraen is now online
[16:35:17] erraen is now online
[16:35:46] mishok13: SQLAlchemy + PyGTK/PySide
[16:36:38] MAVr is now away
[16:38:23] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:39:17] erraen: RaD: plain text - совсем плохо, граблей не оберешься. Локально как данные хранить будешь? Только в plain text?
[16:39:36] RaD is now online
[16:39:39] RaD: ну xml, главное чтоб rsync прожевал
[16:39:55] kryklia is now away
[16:40:16] erraen is now online
[16:40:17] erraen is now online
[16:42:04] unk2k is now offline
[16:43:06] RaD: в общем надо придумать как, а реализовать не проблема :)
[16:44:36] RaD is now online
[16:44:55] kryklia is now away
[16:45:16] erraen is now online
[16:45:17] erraen is now online
[16:45:59] erraen: Я скорее всего держал бы локально копию базы и синхронизацию проводил средствами ее же.
[16:47:30] cutwater is now away
[16:47:39] RaD: хостеры не дают прямого доступа к базе, если что
[16:48:30] erraen: Эм... Нафиг таких хостеров?
[16:48:59] RaD: мы в общем про другое :)
[16:49:36] RaD is now online
[16:49:44] cutwater is now online
[16:49:55] kryklia is now away
[16:50:16] erraen is now online
[16:50:17] erraen is now online
[16:50:22] Ляпатяпа is now offline
[16:51:10] PC is now offline
[16:51:51] Большой Лис is now away
[16:51:52] Большой Лис is now online
[16:52:11] erraen: Тогда - таки "отложенный" json-rpc, т.е. грубо говоря мой первый вариант. Впрочем, локальную базу все равно держать можно, плюс писать в нее же все, что нужно передать при связи. Но тут уже конфликтов может быть больше, но это зависит от того, меняется ли информация с одной точки или с нескольких, меняется ли она напрямую в базе и т.д.
[16:52:17] PC is now online
[16:52:31] RaD: с нескольких
[16:53:38] piranha: а ты хочешь совсем оффлайн, чтоб во время редактирования связи не было?
[16:53:45] RaD: да
[16:53:45] kryklia is now away
[16:53:46] erraen: Т.е. фактически одну запись могут поменять "одновременно" (не зная о правках друг друга) несколько человек?
[16:53:54] piranha: хаха
[16:53:59] Portnov is now offline
[16:54:03] RaD: ну на самом деле, изменения не будет, будет добавление
[16:54:05] piranha: ну тогда придëтся писать инструмент для объединения правок еще
[16:54:14] kryklia is now away
[16:54:37] RaD is now online
[16:54:44] RaD: поизменять можно и онлайново, а вот добавлять лучше в офлайне, ибо объёмы большие
[16:54:56] kryklia is now away
[16:55:02] cutwater is now away
[16:55:16] erraen is now online
[16:55:17] erraen is now online
[16:55:31] kryklia is now away
[16:55:41] Effgen is now away
[16:55:43] cutwater is now online
[16:55:52] erraen: Если _только_ добавления - тогда да, можно хранить набор данных, необходимых для передачи и фигачить их при связи. Но нужно все равно смотреть например что там с уникальными индексами будет, если они есть и уметь это обработать/уведомить пользователя.
[16:56:33] RaD: в общем лучше бы синкать базы
[16:56:43] kryklia is now online
[16:56:44] kryklia is now online
[16:56:58] erraen: Да, хотя там могут быть примерно те же проблемы.
[16:57:25] erraen: Но по крайней мере не надо морочиться с хранением/передачей изменений.
[16:57:26] RaD: в общем жопа
[16:58:04] erraen: Если уникальных индеков нету и только добавления - то не такая и большая
[16:59:01] erraen: Если есть уники - то добавляется обучение юзеров чего делать в случае конфликтов плюс генерация для них внятных матюков.
[16:59:28] Typhon is now away
[16:59:38] RaD is now online
[16:59:56] kryklia is now online
[17:00:16] erraen is now online
[17:00:17] erraen is now online
[17:02:35] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[17:02:42] PC is now offline
[17:03:10] PC is now online
[17:04:39] RaD is now online
[17:04:56] kryklia is now online
[17:05:16] erraen is now online
[17:05:17] erraen is now online
[17:06:11] GrimbleGromble is now away
[17:09:26] kryklia is now away
[17:09:27] kryklia is now away
[17:09:39] RaD is now online
[17:09:56] kryklia is now away
[17:10:17] erraen is now online
[17:10:18] erraen is now online
[17:11:50] RaD is now offline
[17:12:54] tilarids_: что-то я не пойму, icfpc результаты уже объяили или нет?
[17:13:08] red-agent is now online
[17:13:17] tilarids_: вроде как первые-вторые места известны. Хочется узнать наше место
[17:13:53] Мозгошредер is now Online
[17:14:02] GrimbleGromble is now online
[17:14:08] Александp is now away
[17:14:14] kryklia is now online
[17:14:15] kryklia is now online
[17:14:56] kryklia is now online
[17:15:17] erraen is now online
[17:15:18] erraen is now online
[17:16:38] MAVr is now away
[17:16:53] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[17:19:57] kryklia is now online
[17:20:17] kryklia is now away
[17:20:17] erraen is now online
[17:20:18] kryklia is now away
[17:20:18] erraen is now online
[17:21:08] Александp is now online
[17:21:48] Portnov is now away
[17:22:24] Portnov is now away
[17:24:10] Typhon is now online
[17:24:58] kryklia is now away
[17:25:18] erraen is now online
[17:25:19] erraen is now online
[17:25:31] mdn is now online
[17:25:32] mdn is now online
[17:29:12] GrimbleGromble is now away
[17:29:57] kryklia is now away
[17:30:18] erraen is now online
[17:30:19] erraen is now online
[17:31:34] PC is now away
[17:32:27] Мозгошредер is now offline
[17:33:53] MAVr is now away
[17:33:54] PC is now online
[17:34:11] jedgar: это не оно? http://icfpcontest.org/scoreboard.php
[17:34:57] kryklia is now away
[17:35:18] erraen is now online
[17:35:19] erraen is now online
[17:36:42] Александp is now away
[17:37:35] piranha: The final list will be published after the winners are announced at ICFP.
[17:37:48] mishok13: где ваша команда?
[17:37:51] mishok13: как она называется?
[17:38:50] red-agent is now away
[17:38:54] MAVr is now xa
[17:38:56] MAVr is now xa
[17:39:12] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[17:39:31] piranha: гм, сегодня последний день ицфп
[17:39:36] piranha: где ж результаты?
[17:39:55] Effgen is now away
[17:39:58] kryklia is now away
[17:40:13] Portnov is now offline
[17:40:18] piranha: godaddy адски тормозит
[17:40:19] erraen is now online
[17:40:20] erraen is now online
[17:40:30] piranha: нет ли какого-нить нормального регистратора без напряжного интерфейса?
[17:40:53] Portnov is now away
[17:40:53] jedgar: чето я не понял, места и очки есть, чтоже тогда такое финал лист?
[17:41:02] red-agent is now online
[17:41:37] mishok13: jedgar, ну еще судьи добавляют/отнимают очки
[17:41:55] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[17:42:08] jedgar: хм
[17:42:22] piranha: это за 4 часа до конца турнира
[17:42:32] piranha: очки
[17:42:42] piranha: у бетономешалок в конце было 28хх очков, а не 2588
[17:44:12] GrimbleGromble is now online
[17:44:58] kryklia is now away
[17:45:18] erraen is now online
[17:45:19] erraen is now online
[17:45:25] piranha is now offline
[17:45:31] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[17:46:31] tilarids_ is now away
[17:47:03] red-agent is now away
[17:47:42] red-agent is now online
[17:49:52] GrimbleGromble is now away
[17:49:58] kryklia is now away
[17:50:19] erraen is now online
[17:50:20] erraen is now online
[17:50:37] Большой Лис is now away
[17:50:49] Александp is now offline
[17:50:50] Александp is now online
[17:51:36] Александp is now offline
[17:51:50] Александp is now online
[17:51:53] GrimbleGromble is now online
[17:52:39] MAVr is now away
[17:52:44] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[17:53:27] tilarids_ is now online
[17:54:58] kryklia is now away
[17:55:20] erraen is now online
[17:55:21] erraen is now online
[17:55:23] red-agent is now away
[17:56:09] Effgen is now away
[17:59:23] GrimbleGromble is now away
[17:59:58] PC is now away
[17:59:58] kryklia is now away
[18:00:19] erraen is now online
[18:00:20] erraen is now online
[18:01:43] GrimbleGromble is now online
[18:01:45] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[18:01:52] xa4a is now online
[18:03:03] erraen is now offline
[18:04:07] Portnov is now offline
[18:04:13] red-agent is now online
[18:04:58] kryklia is now away
[18:06:01] poltergeist is now offline
[18:08:12] red-agent is now offline
[18:08:13] red-agent is now online
[18:09:58] PC is now xa
[18:09:58] kryklia is now away
[18:10:39] Большой Лис is now offline
[18:10:46] Александp is now away
[18:11:33] bobry: http://demiart.ru/forum/journal_uploads2/j73625_1250854474.jpg всем смеяться :)
[18:12:03] 0lejka is now offline
[18:13:35] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[18:14:02] MAVr is now - - Terminator.4.2009.D.DVDRip - Terminator.4.2009.D.DVDRip
[18:14:06] MAVr is now Nothing
[18:14:56] PC is now online
[18:14:58] kryklia is now away
[18:15:44] лорд Морфий is now away
[18:18:09] nmk is now offline
[18:18:53] red-agent is now away
[18:19:29] MAVr is now - - :: DJ philE :: - SSRadio :: Episode 48.0
(из ":: Deep :: House :: Cat ::")
[18:20:00] kryklia is now away
[18:20:46] Александp is now xa
[18:23:27] MAVr is now Слушаем тишину
[18:23:30] MAVr is now Nothing
[18:23:38] MAVr is now - - :: DJ philE :: - SSRadio :: Episode 48.0
(из ":: Deep :: House :: Cat ::")
[18:25:00] kryklia is now away
[18:25:06] gigimon is now offline
[18:25:07] gigimon is now online
[18:25:38] Александp is now online
[18:25:41] pymonk is now online
[18:25:45] pymonk is now online
[18:26:51] red-agent is now online
[18:27:55] mishok13 is now away
[18:30:01] kryklia is now away
[18:32:17] MAVr is now Nothing
[18:32:33] GrimbleGromble is now away
[18:32:43] GrimbleGromble is now online
[18:35:02] kryklia is now away
[18:35:44] лорд Морфий is now xa
[18:36:28] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[18:37:56] mishok13 is now xa
[18:38:03] pymonk is now offline
[18:38:11] pymonk is now dnd
[18:38:12] pymonk is now dnd
[18:38:28] pymonk is now offline
[18:38:45] jedgar is now away
[18:40:02] kryklia is now away
[18:40:09] PC is now away
[18:41:12] MAVr is now Слушаем тишину
[18:41:18] MAVr is now Nothing
[18:41:45] PC is now online
[18:42:31] Portnov is now online
[18:42:38] Portnov is now online
[18:42:39] MAVr is now - - AIMP2 RemoteInfo - My Radio
[18:42:55] MAVr is now Nothing
[18:43:42] MAVr is now - - AIMP2 RemoteInfo - Юмор FM
[18:44:12] Effgen is now away
[18:45:03] kryklia is now away
[18:45:29] Ляпатяпа is now online
[18:45:54] cutwater is now away
[18:46:29] лорд Морфий is now away
[18:46:34] xa4a is now offline
[18:47:10] cutwater is now online
[18:50:03] kryklia is now away
[18:50:34] GrimbleGromble is now away
[18:52:44] GrimbleGromble is now online
[18:55:03] kryklia is now away
[18:57:12] slav0nic is now offline
[18:57:43] pymonk is now online
[18:57:46] cutwater is now away
[18:57:49] pymonk is now offline
[18:57:51] pymonk is now dnd
[18:57:54] GrimbleGromble is now away
[18:58:04] pymonk is now offline
[18:58:07] pymonk is now online
[18:58:15] pymonk is now offline
[18:58:16] pymonk is now dnd
[18:58:16] pymonk is now dnd
[18:58:30] pymonk is now offline
[18:58:32] pymonk is now online
[18:58:43] pymonk is now offline
[18:58:44] pymonk is now dnd
[18:58:45] pymonk is now dnd
[18:58:59] pymonk is now offline
[18:59:02] pymonk is now online
[18:59:11] pymonk is now offline
[18:59:12] pymonk is now dnd
[18:59:13] pymonk is now dnd
[18:59:13] Effgen is now xa
[18:59:26] pymonk is now offline
[18:59:35] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[18:59:38] pymonk is now dnd
[18:59:39] pymonk is now dnd
[18:59:50] kryklia is now online
[18:59:51] kryklia is now online
[19:00:04] kryklia is now online
[19:01:30] MAVr is now Nothing
[19:02:06] ilnur.soft is now online
[19:02:11] ilnur.soft is now offline
[19:02:22] Мозгошредер is now away
[19:02:32] cutwater is now online
[19:02:55] mishok13 is now online
[19:03:24] MAVr is now - - AIMP2 RemoteInfo - My Radio
[19:04:09] MAVr is now - - AIMP2 RemoteInfo - ХИТ FM
[19:05:04] kryklia is now online
[19:05:57] erraen is now online
[19:05:58] erraen is now online
[19:05:59] Effgen is now away
[19:06:29] лорд Морфий is now xa
[19:07:40] PC is now offline
[19:07:54] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[19:07:55] mishok13 is now away
[19:10:04] kryklia is now online
[19:10:09] ilnur.soft is now online
[19:10:19] ilnur.soft is now offline
[19:10:39] erraen is now online
[19:12:18] MAVr is now - - AIMP2 RemoteInfo - Юмор FM
[19:12:24] cutwater is now away
[19:12:30] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[19:12:54] GrimbleGromble is now online
[19:13:21] Typhon is now offline
[19:14:16] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[19:15:04] kryklia is now online
[19:15:39] erraen is now online
[19:17:55] mishok13 is now xa
[19:20:04] kryklia is now online
[19:20:04] GrimbleGromble is now away
[19:20:14] kryklia is now away
[19:20:15] kryklia is now away
[19:20:40] erraen is now online
[19:21:24] cutwater is now online
[19:22:05] tilarids_ is now away
[19:23:02] tilarids_ is now online
[19:23:10] огыешсук is now offline
[19:25:04] kryklia is now away
[19:25:41] erraen is now online
[19:26:04] tilarids_ is now offline
[19:26:12] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[19:26:26] cutwater is now away
[19:27:36] MAVr is now Nothing
[19:27:39] MAVr is now - - AIMP2 RemoteInfo - ХИТ FM
[19:27:57] MAVr is now - - AIMP2 RemoteInfo - Юмор FM
[19:30:05] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[19:30:05] kryklia is now away
[19:30:41] erraen is now online
[19:31:00] cutwater is now online
[19:31:05] GrimbleGromble is now online
[19:35:05] kryklia is now away
[19:35:41] erraen is now online
[19:36:12] лорд Морфий is now away
[19:36:30] jedgar is now online
[19:36:38] cutwater is now away
[19:36:51] red-agent is now away
[19:38:02] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:38:03] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:38:11] red-agent is now online
[19:38:20] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:40:06] kryklia is now away
[19:40:42] erraen is now online
[19:41:20] slav0nic is now online
[19:41:23] Мозгошредер is now offline
[19:41:31] slav0nic is now away
[19:42:44] piranha is now offline
[19:43:11] MAVr is now offline
[19:43:20] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:45:07] kryklia is now away
[19:45:42] erraen is now online
[19:45:48] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[19:45:49] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[19:46:13] Ляпатяпа: лориен что-то пропал
[19:46:38] cutwater is now xa
[19:46:44] cutwater is now online
[19:46:48] Ляпатяпа: надо подомогаться по пайбб, там from pybb.templatetags.pybb_extras import pybb_moderated_by импортируется в нескольких функциях в views
[19:47:45] slav0nic is now offline
[19:47:58] slav0nic is now away
[19:48:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:48:20] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:48:20] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:49:27] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:49:56] Vitaly Omelchuk: Ой, я, по-моему получил право голоса :)
[19:50:07] kryklia is now away
[19:50:12] Vitaly Omelchuk: Привет всем любителям питона
[19:50:43] erraen is now online
[19:51:34] Vitaly Omelchuk: Ребят, прошу прощения, что я сразу с вопроса, но поверте, все адреса в топике мной уже прошерстины вдоль и поперек
[19:52:09] Vitaly Omelchuk: Возникла загвоздка с битовыми сдвигами. Надеюсь кто-то уже сталкивался
[19:52:39] Vitaly Omelchuk: Поведение >> и << в Си, ПХП и питоне в корне отличается
[19:53:01] Vitaly Omelchuk: Мне надо получить такое же поведение сдвигов как в Си и ПХП, а не удаетя
[19:53:14] red-agent: Чем отличаются?
[19:53:21] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:53:25] red-agent: Показывай код. Что есть и что должно быть.
[19:53:25] GrimbleGromble is now away
[19:53:37] Vitaly Omelchuk: Думаю что знаковыми битами
[19:54:26] Vitaly Omelchuk: $Check1 =2384889349; // что представляет собой 10001110001001101000011000000101
Дальше берем
$Check1 >>= 2;
И получаем
$Check1 = -477519487; // 11100011100010011010000110000001
[19:54:43] Vitaly Omelchuk: Это был пхп, сча скину что выходит если тоже самое провернуть на питоне
[19:54:57] Vitaly Omelchuk: Check1 = 2384889349L #10001110001001101000011000000101
Делаем
Сheck1 >>= 2
И получаем
Check1 = 596222337L #100011100010011010000110000001
[19:54:59] red-agent: Ты лучше C/Python покажи.
[19:55:07] kryklia is now away
[19:55:44] erraen is now online
[19:56:18] лорд Морфий is now xa
[19:57:19] Effgen is now away
[19:57:23] Мозгошредер is now away
[19:57:47] Vitaly Omelchuk: В си тоже самое. Если делать битовые сдвиги в Си или ПХП, то оно просто сдвигает и биты без учета знаковых битов и можно из положительных чисел получить отрицательные и наоборот, в питоне же всегда число того же знака. Да и вообще почему-то одно и тоже число выдает различные битовое представление в разных языках
[19:58:15] red-agent: Для начала, какой тип ты используешь в Си?
[19:58:21] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[19:59:53] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[20:00:08] kryklia is now away
[20:00:44] erraen is now online
[20:01:50] Vitaly Omelchuk: http://paste.org/pastebin/view/10201#code Вот я дал полный код на ПХП, что я хочу получить. Он работает именно так как мне надо
[20:02:20] Vitaly Omelchuk: Простое изменение его с учетом синтаксиса питона приводит к совершенно другим результатам :(
[20:02:53] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[20:02:55] mishok13 is now online
[20:03:22] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:03:25] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[20:04:35] GrimbleGromble is now online
[20:05:09] kryklia is now away
[20:05:44] erraen is now online
[20:07:07] kryklia is now online
[20:07:08] kryklia is now online
[20:07:55] Vitaly Omelchuk: Что, к сожалению, ни у кого ни каких идей нет?
[20:07:55] mishok13 is now away
[20:08:23] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:09:00] Мозгошредер is now offline
[20:09:00] red-agent: Что касается меня -- я php на дух не переношу, и не знаю какая у них там логика бит-шифтинга и интегеров в целом. По-этому и сказать что-то конкретное не могу.
[20:09:35] GrimbleGromble is now away
[20:09:53] red-agent: А насчет разницы между питоном и Си в битшифтинге -- да, она есть.
[20:10:01] red-agent: Питоний бит-шифтинг не трогает sign bit
[20:10:10] kryklia is now online
[20:10:11] red-agent: Он арифметический, а не сугубо бинарный.
[20:10:45] erraen is now online
[20:11:20] Vitaly Omelchuk: Да, я знаю. Вот и проблема именно из-за этого возникла
[20:11:25] pymonk is now offline
[20:11:55] Vitaly Omelchuk: Уже несколько дней хожу мозги сушу как такой код на питоне повторить...
[20:13:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:14:00] Ляпатяпа: Как думаете, это красиво?
topics_ids = request.GET.getlist('topic')
topics = [get_object_or_404(Topic, pk=topic_id) for topic_id in topics_ids]
[20:15:03] red-agent: Vitaly Omelchuk, Тут нужно понимать, что в отличии от Си, потому я и спросил про тип, long -- не ограничен длинной.
[20:15:07] Vitaly Omelchuk: А get_object_or_404(Topic, pk__in=topic_ids) не работает?
[20:15:10] kryklia is now online
[20:15:45] erraen is now online
[20:15:54] Ляпатяпа: а не знаю, мне надо несколько объектов в списке
[20:16:12] Ляпатяпа: а get_object_.. судя по всему один отдаст
[20:17:15] Vitaly Omelchuk: red-agent, а понимаю все эти различия, ди питон начинает мне тип из инта в лонг расширять а не отбрасывать лишние... Я просто думал, что может кто с похожей ситуацией сталкивался и как-то эммулировал "правильные" битовые-шифты в питоне :)
[20:17:46] red-agent: В питоне-то они как-раз правильные. Арифметические.
[20:17:47] Vitaly Omelchuk: Ляпатяпа, а filtr там воспользоваться нельзя?
[20:17:48] Ляпатяпа: может встроить в пайтон-код код из си?
[20:17:51] red-agent: Это в Си они слишком нативные
[20:17:55] mishok13 is now xa
[20:18:11] Vitaly Omelchuk: Какой-то странный список из гетов топиков и 404 страниц
[20:18:17] red-agent: Vitaly Omelchuk, Тоже, кстати, идея. Можешь портировать этот код на Си.
[20:18:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:18:31] slav0nic is now offline
[20:18:36] red-agent: И юзать его как extension module.
[20:18:41] Ляпатяпа: по идее если хотя бы один айди неверный, будет 404 страница
[20:18:46] slav0nic is now away
[20:18:46] Vitaly Omelchuk: red-agent, из-за одной несчастной фунции писать Си-аддон?
[20:19:06] red-agent: Почему бы и нет?
[20:19:15] mdn is now offline
[20:19:32] Ляпатяпа: а в чем проблема? я не пробовал, но в примерах тупо полстраницы Си кода прямо в тексте питона
[20:19:36] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[20:19:47] Vitaly Omelchuk: Ляпатяпа, тогда я думаю, что лучше смотреть в сторону any() она побыстрее отработает чем этот for
[20:19:53] Ляпатяпа: это лучше, чем несколько дней голову греть
[20:20:10] kryklia is now online
[20:20:29] Vitaly Omelchuk: В смысле Си пямо в питон коде?
[20:20:29] лорд Морфий is now Мир держится на слонах, слоны на черепахе, черепаха на скотче.
[20:20:45] erraen is now online
[20:20:52] Vitaly Omelchuk: Можно на си писать прямо в питоне? И как оно потом отрабатывает?
[20:20:55] red-agent: Нет.
[20:21:02] Vitaly Omelchuk: Фух
[20:21:28] red-agent: Но, можна попробовать заюзать ctypes
[20:21:30] Vitaly Omelchuk: Отлегло. Я уж перепугался, что как это я до сих пор о такой вкуснейшей возможности и не знаю
[20:21:32] red-agent: c_long оттуда
[20:22:57] Ляпатяпа: Существуют модули, позволяющие встраивать код на С/C++ прямо в исходные файлы Python, создавая расширения «на лету» (pyinline[23], weave[24]).
[20:23:02] red-agent: Хотя они по-моему не поддерживают манипуляции с ними.
[20:23:10] Ляпатяпа: из педивикии
[20:23:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:23:34] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[20:24:36] GrimbleGromble is now online
[20:25:11] kryklia is now online
[20:25:46] erraen is now online
[20:28:04] jolits is now xa
[20:28:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:29:14] Vitaly Omelchuk: Тагда так еще спрашу. Может кому-то приходилось получатьPageRank странички у гула из скрипта на питоне?
[20:29:36] GrimbleGromble is now away
[20:29:50] Typhon is now online
[20:29:53] Vitaly Omelchuk: Потому что этот код из функции на пхп, которая это делает, мне просто необходимо получать ПР из питона :)
[20:30:11] kryklia is now online
[20:30:29] лорд Морфий is now away
[20:30:47] erraen is now online
[20:31:26] GrimbleGromble is now online
[20:33:16] Vitaly Omelchuk: Прошу прощения, но мне надо отойти на пол часа
[20:33:22] Vitaly Omelchuk is now offline
[20:34:03] =av= is now away
[20:34:04] =av= is now away
[20:35:11] kryklia is now online
[20:35:38] =av= is now offline
[20:35:48] erraen is now online
[20:36:17] =av= is now away
[20:36:18] =av= is now away
[20:37:09] =av= is now online
[20:37:10] =av= is now online
[20:40:12] kryklia is now online
[20:40:48] erraen is now online
[20:40:58] Мозгошредер: У кого-то есть 6-ди дюймовый сабвуфер? (14-15 см)
[20:41:26] Мозгошредер: вернее динамик в нем
[20:45:13] kryklia is now online
[20:45:49] erraen is now online
[20:47:36] slav0nic is now offline
[20:47:46] Effgen is now away
[20:47:49] slav0nic is now away
[20:50:14] kryklia is now online
[20:50:28] лорд Морфий is now xa
[20:50:49] erraen is now online
[20:51:27] Мозгошредер is now away
[20:52:56] tilarids is now online
[20:53:37] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[20:54:29] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:54:30] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:54:31] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[20:55:14] kryklia is now online
[20:55:51] erraen is now online
[20:56:27] Ляпатяпа: posts = Post.objects.extra(where=["topic_id IN (%s)" % u','.join(topics_ids)])
[20:56:30] Ляпатяпа: как вам?
[20:57:13] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[20:57:24] kryklia is now away
[20:57:25] kryklia is now away
[20:58:30] red-agent: уебищно
[20:58:34] red-agent: get_list_or_404
[21:00:14] kryklia is now away
[21:00:28] red-agent: get_list_or_404(Post, topic_id__in=topic_ids)
[21:00:45] Ляпатяпа: хм.. ну может быть
[21:00:51] erraen is now online
[21:01:04] red-agent: ну или pk вместо topic_id, зависит от того, что у тебя там.
[21:01:07] Мозгошредер is now offline
[21:01:17] Portnov is now away
[21:01:22] Александp is now away
[21:02:13] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:02:16] Ляпатяпа: ага, работает, тоже самое вывел
[21:02:23] Portnov is now online
[21:03:23] slav0nic is now offline
[21:03:53] slav0nic is now away
[21:05:14] kryklia is now away
[21:05:51] erraen is now online
[21:07:14] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:07:59] mdn is now online
[21:08:00] mdn is now online
[21:08:01] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:08:02] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:08:40] Александp is now online
[21:08:41] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:08:42] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:09:36] Vitaly Omelchuk: Ляпатяпа, я ж тебе тоже самое писал :) Ты не проверил, что ли? :)
[21:09:57] GrimbleGromble is now away
[21:10:15] kryklia is now away
[21:10:44] Ляпатяпа: я get_list_or_404 не юзал просто.. когда познакомился с get_object... его еще не было... ну короче не вкупил что его можно в данном случае использовать
[21:10:51] erraen is now online
[21:11:26] Ляпатяпа: ты написал про get_object, из-за этого я и протупил
[21:11:39] Ляпатяпа: ну и плюс мой монстр работал=)
[21:11:57] Vitaly Omelchuk: Ляпатяпа, т.е. у тебя сейчас счастливое время - первые шаги в освоении джанги? :)
[21:12:03] Vitaly Omelchuk: Завидую :)
[21:12:14] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:12:16] Ляпатяпа: хехе
[21:12:23] Ляпатяпа: не, почти год на ней
[21:13:05] Ляпатяпа: говорю же, когда я нашел get_object_or_404 - get_list_or_404 еще не было
[21:13:16] Vitaly Omelchuk: Вполне срок :) Хотя она постоянно открывает какие свои сюрпризы :)
[21:15:16] kryklia is now away
[21:15:52] erraen is now online
[21:17:15] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:18:16] cutwater is now away
[21:18:17] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:18:18] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:19:20] =av= is now dnd
[21:19:22] =av= is now dnd
[21:19:57] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[21:20:16] kryklia is now away
[21:20:53] erraen is now online
[21:20:54] cutwater is now online
[21:22:16] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:24:48] pymonk is now online
[21:24:57] GrimbleGromble is now online
[21:25:16] kryklia is now away
[21:25:54] erraen is now online
[21:27:16] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:28:17] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[21:28:18] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[21:29:57] GrimbleGromble is now away
[21:30:17] kryklia is now away
[21:30:55] erraen is now online
[21:31:00] jedgar is now away
[21:31:36] Effgen is now away
[21:32:17] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[21:32:24] slav0nic is now offline
[21:32:37] slav0nic is now away
[21:33:17] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:33:18] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:34:20] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[21:35:18] kryklia is now away
[21:35:55] erraen is now online
[21:36:39] jedgar is now online
[21:37:18] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[21:38:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:38:20] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:38:54] kryklia is now offline
[21:39:57] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[21:40:55] erraen is now online
[21:42:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:45:31] pymonk is now offline
[21:45:38] pymonk is now online
[21:45:39] pymonk is now online
[21:45:55] erraen is now online
[21:46:58] pymonk is now offline
[21:47:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[21:48:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[21:48:20] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[21:49:58] xa4a is now online
[21:49:59] xa4a is now online
[21:50:19] Typhon is now offline
[21:50:22] Typhon is now online
[21:50:56] erraen is now online
[21:52:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[21:52:33] Typhon is now offline
[21:52:36] Typhon is now online
[21:53:12] Typhon is now offline
[21:53:27] Typhon is now online
[21:53:51] Typhon is now offline
[21:54:00] Typhon is now online
[21:54:58] GrimbleGromble is now online
[21:55:57] erraen is now online
[21:57:20] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[21:57:24] tilarids is now away
[21:58:31] Effgen is now away
[21:59:58] GrimbleGromble is now away
[22:00:08] feedbot is now online
[22:00:09] feedbot: How to do model checking of Python code http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9go41/how_to_do_model_checking_of_python_code/
[22:00:13] feedbot is now offline
[22:00:57] erraen is now online
[22:02:21] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[22:03:18] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:03:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:03:28] Александp is now away
[22:05:43] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[22:05:58] erraen is now online
[22:06:07] Portnov is now away
[22:06:25] Portnov is now online
[22:07:22] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:07:23] tilarids is now xa
[22:08:18] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[22:08:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[22:09:59] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[22:10:14] tilarids is now online
[22:10:59] erraen is now online
[22:12:23] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[22:13:28] Александp is now xa
[22:15:29] Effgen is now away
[22:15:59] erraen is now online
[22:16:17] slav0nic is now offline
[22:16:39] slav0nic is now away
[22:16:58] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[22:17:23] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[22:18:18] rfafdls is now online
[22:18:18] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[22:18:19] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[22:18:24] rfafdls is now online
[22:19:40] slav0nic is now offline
[22:21:00] erraen is now online
[22:22:13] red-agent is now away
[22:22:23] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[22:23:06] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:23:07] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:23:15] red-agent is now online
[22:24:50] rfafdls is now offline
[22:25:54] tilarids is now away
[22:26:00] erraen is now online
[22:27:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:29:30] slav0nic is now away
[22:31:00] erraen is now online
[22:32:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:33:16] Portnov is now away
[22:33:21] slav0nic is now offline
[22:33:39] slav0nic is now away
[22:34:49] GrimbleGromble is now online
[22:35:16] Portnov is now online
[22:35:53] tilarids is now xa
[22:36:00] erraen is now online
[22:37:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:38:10] Александp is now online
[22:39:59] GrimbleGromble is now away
[22:40:34] tilarids is now online
[22:40:49] slav0nic is now offline
[22:40:52] slav0nic is now online
[22:41:01] erraen is now online
[22:42:24] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:42:27] slav0nic is now offline
[22:42:37] slav0nic is now online
[22:43:03] Effgen is now away
[22:46:00] erraen is now online
[22:47:25] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:48:51] Ляпатяпа is now offline
[22:49:44] tilarids is now away
[22:49:50] GrimbleGromble is now xa
[22:50:04] tilarids is now online
[22:50:37] =av= is now offline
[22:51:01] erraen is now online
[22:51:32] Effgen is now Я здесь.
[22:52:25] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:53:52] jedgar is now offline
[22:53:53] jedgar is now online
[22:56:02] erraen is now online
[22:57:15] jedgar is now offline
[22:57:16] jedgar is now online
[22:57:17] jedgar is now online
[22:57:26] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[22:57:37] Portnov is now offline
[22:58:03] jedgar is now offline
[22:58:33] sevenov is now away
[23:01:03] erraen is now online
[23:02:26] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:03:38] slav0nic is now offline
[23:03:49] slav0nic is now online
[23:06:03] erraen is now online
[23:07:07] Typhon is now offline
[23:07:26] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:09:20] GrimbleGromble is now online
[23:10:24] tilarids is now away
[23:11:04] erraen is now online
[23:11:14] Vitaly Omelchuk is now offline
[23:11:26] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:11:27] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:11:29] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:12:48] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:13:28] xa4a_ is now online
[23:13:31] xa4a_ is now offline
[23:16:05] erraen is now online
[23:17:49] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:20:23] tilarids is now xa
[23:21:06] erraen is now online
[23:21:20] GrimbleGromble is now away
[23:22:49] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:26:06] erraen is now online
[23:26:54] tilarids is now online
[23:27:07] mdn is now offline
[23:27:50] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:28:42] xa4a is now offline
[23:30:02] xa4a is now online
[23:30:10] GrimbleGromble is now online
[23:31:07] erraen is now online
[23:31:15] xa4a is now offline
[23:32:50] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:33:17] slav0nic is now offline
[23:33:20] slav0nic is now online
[23:33:28] slav0nic is now offline
[23:33:41] slav0nic is now online
[23:36:08] erraen is now online
[23:36:51] GrimbleGromble is now away
[23:37:51] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:38:21] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[23:38:22] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[23:40:59] Effgen is now offline
[23:41:08] erraen is now online
[23:41:29] slav0nic is now away
[23:42:52] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[23:43:12] xa4a is now online
[23:44:25] xa4a is now offline
[23:45:11] GrimbleGromble is now online
[23:46:09] erraen is now online
[23:47:12] slav0nic is now offline
[23:47:30] slav0nic is now away
[23:47:54] Vitaly Omelchuk is now away
[23:48:21] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[23:48:22] Vitaly Omelchuk is now xa
[23:49:37] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:49:38] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:51:09] erraen is now online
[23:52:51] GrimbleGromble is now away
[23:52:54] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:53:17] bobry is now away
[23:56:10] erraen is now online
[23:57:55] Vitaly Omelchuk is now online
[23:58:50] cutwater is now offline
[23:59:04] denz is now online