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[00:39:42] bobry: товарищи, а посредством xmlrpc можно картинку передать как нибудь?
[00:40:05] bobry: вообще я с трудом предсавляю как это может быть
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[00:42:18] red-agent: А в чем собственно проблема?
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[00:43:00] red-agent: Читаешь файл с картинкой или что там у тебя -- да передаешь строку с байтами в качестве параметра для функции на xmlrpc сервере.
[00:43:07] bobry: что то я пропустил пункт binary_data
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[00:44:16] red-agent: http://docs.python.org/library/xmlrpclib.html#binary-objects
[00:45:14] bobry: да-да) я уже нашел
как часто бывает, написал и нашел ответ
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[01:56:37] kryklia: привет. есть вопрос - в админке по дефолту нет разрешений для flatpages. Если пользователь не суперюзер хоть у него будут все другие права - он не видит flatpages. Что делать?
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[09:39:47] tilarids: xa4a, а ты в gcj таки поучаствовал?
[09:39:59] xa4a: почти нет
[09:40:09] tilarids: ну, а квалификацию прошел?
[09:40:12] xa4a: тоесть я первую решил, потом свалил и больше так и не добрался
[09:40:21] xa4a: а сколько там надо?
[09:40:29] tilarids: 33 очка, достаточно полностью решенной одной
[09:40:33] tilarids: проверь, сколько у тебя
[09:40:35] xa4a: у меня 33 за первую есть
[09:40:50] tilarids: ты проверял? Они же изначально не проверяют large data set
[09:40:59] tilarids: ты сейчас посмотри
[09:41:04] xa4a: 6551 Ukraine xa4aMe 33 11:07:16
[09:41:19] tilarids: xa4a, и когда первый раунд?
[09:41:35] xa4a: Sep 12 200901:00 UTC
[09:41:41] tilarids: мда
[09:41:43] tilarids: у меня аналогично
[09:41:48] tilarids: хотя выбирал совсем не то
[09:41:58] xa4a: угу
[09:41:59] tilarids: не очень удобно будет в 4 утра просыпаться...
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[09:49:33] Typhon: xa4a tilarids, покажите решение первой :) я вчера быстро и грязно сделал ее, но ничего не отправлял, лениво :)
[09:49:49] Typhon: интересно посмотреть, как у вас там
[09:50:00] xa4a: http://dumpz.org/12050/
[09:50:15] erraen: /me пролетел с третьей задачей - не протестил для large значений, а что там только одна попытка дается - провтыкал
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[09:53:30] tilarids: xa4a, длинно :)
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[09:53:49] xa4a: функционально)
[09:53:53] tilarids: и tokenize у тебя прикольный. У меня - одна строка на регулярках :)
[09:54:10] Typhon: tilarids: я тоже регулярками сделал ^^
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[09:54:33] Typhon: но у меня там, по-моему, вообще говнокод, зато минут 5-7 времени
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[09:54:41] erraen: /me тоже регулярками :)
[09:55:12] tilarids: Typhon, ну, у меня не 5-7, а где-то 15-20 вместе с установкой на винду питона :)
[09:55:26] tilarids: а может и меньше
[09:55:28] tilarids: не засекал
[09:56:02] tilarids: /me вот будет у адепта требовать 3ю задачу на хаскеле. Моё хаскелерешение красивое, но тормозит
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[09:57:49] erraen: А где видно, в какую секцию первого раунда тебя запихнули?
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[09:59:52] xa4a: http://code.google.com/codejam/contest/
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[10:02:04] erraen: xa4a: в смысле подсвеченная - это моя? Я думал - ближайщая просто показывается.
[10:02:17] xa4a: я думаю, там показываются только твои
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[10:02:55] kryklia: привет. есть вопрос - в админке по дефолту нет разрешений для flatpages. Если пользователь не суперюзер хоть у него будут все другие права - он не видит flatpages. Что делать?
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[10:10:08] Ляпатяпа: ./manage.py syncdb?
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[10:10:36] kryklia: в админке для flatpages нету прав и их нельзя добавить или убрать
[10:10:51] RaD: а ты её админом то видишь?
[10:10:54] kryklia: да
[10:11:01] kryklia: только если суперюзер
[10:11:05] RaD: а не админом не видишь
[10:11:10] kryklia: не суперюзером
[10:11:13] kryklia: так, точно
[10:11:22] RaD: значит не должен :)
[10:11:44] kryklia: :)
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[10:13:48] kryklia: унаследовать свою модель от flatpages, я правильно понял?
[10:14:04] RaD: да
[10:14:07] kryklia: спасибо
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[10:33:23] Typhon: ну и формат мне не очень нравится
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[10:57:55] erraen: tilarids: Попробуй с большой буквы, я не помню точно как регался :)
[10:58:34] tilarids: erraen, нашел
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[10:58:49] tilarids: у тебя тоже третья задача time expired :)
[10:59:57] erraen: Да. Я провьыкал что там только одна попытка и легкомысленно скачал задание
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[11:00:22] unk2k: wow
чем отличается <div /></div> от <div></div> ?
[11:00:36] tilarids: unk2k, в первом случае два дива
[11:00:45] Большой Лис: <div /></div> не валидно
[11:00:50] tilarids: в смысле, два раза закрывается див
[11:00:53] unk2k: Большой Лис: - dfkblyj
[11:00:55] unk2k: валидно
[11:01:05] unk2k: tilarids - неправ\
[11:01:21] tilarids: прости, о великий, да, я "неправ\"
[11:01:47] unk2k: я фичу такую у себя в коде нашел.
<div /> == <br /> - одиночные теги не требующие закрывание.
[11:01:49] unk2k: как то так
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[11:02:07] unk2k: tilarids, прощаю тебя раб мой
[11:02:09] Ляпатяпа: а в чем фича?
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[11:02:28] unk2k: Ляпатяпа, а вот хз =) имхо <div style="clear: both" /> ??
[11:02:35] Typhon: уау, давай же, сообщи об этой фиче еще и на haskell@c.j.r
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[11:03:08] unk2k: Typhon ты мне тогда скинь еще список куда мне нужно сообщить ок ?
[11:03:13] tilarids: а что он там делает?
[11:03:32] Typhon: да не, там вроде нету :)
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[11:03:40] tilarids: я бы удивился
[11:03:42] Typhon: просто там будет "фича" столь же к месту
[11:03:52] tilarids: там же вроде задачку надо решить
[11:04:12] Typhon: ага
[11:04:27] Typhon: вот, кстати, может здесь тоже такую замутить, или излишне?
[11:04:55] mishok13: смысл?
[11:05:08] tilarids: Typhon, зачем? мы уже тут :)
[11:05:21] Typhon: ну вот тоже не вижу смысла особого :)
[11:05:25] mishok13: у нас и так спамить нельзя, а туповатых можно игнорировать
[11:05:31] mishok13: или банить, если они еще и наглые
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[11:18:10] xa4a-m: Утро оффтопа на pythonua?
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[13:05:51] bobry: товарищи, тут все фанаты sqlalchemy, если судить по форуму, я правильно понимаю?
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[13:07:26] wiz: sqlalchemy отстой q:
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[13:09:28] bobry: мне нужен какой нибудь orm базового уровня, никаких сложных запросов и тому подобного не предвидится, все что читал рано или поздно сводится к sqlalchemy (ну или реже sqlobject), мб есть какие нибудь альтернативы?
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[13:09:54] wiz: а что тебе нехватает в указаных?
[13:10:19] bobry: они по моему слегка избыточны, для моих целей
[13:10:49] wiz: ну пиши raw sql
[13:10:55] wiz: какие цели то?
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[13:12:28] StormChild: sqlalchemy
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[13:13:30] bobry: нужно сервер, который будет раз в заданный интервал времени будет получать пакет данных и писать его в БД, в то же время он должен предоставлять доступ к сохранненым пакетам, включая всевозможные сортировки и фильтрации
[13:14:03] StormChild: что в пакете данных? какая структура?
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[13:15:36] bobry: просто хочется чтобы если что возможность расширения была, пакеты на начальном этапе не большие <timestamp><float1>..<floatn>, 10 < n < 50
[13:15:37] wiz: а кто потом будет из бд читать?
[13:15:42] bobry: он же и будет
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[13:15:47] wiz: для кого?
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[13:16:28] bobry: к серверу планируется xmlrpc интерфейс, соответственно клиент либо пишет данные, либо запрашивает
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[13:16:59] tilarids: bobry: можешь попробовать twisted+adbapi+storm
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[13:17:23] tilarids: storm простенький, но вроде умеет с adbapi работать
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[13:17:32] bobry: twisted уже используется, но это не моя часть, мне надо только работу с дб описать
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[13:17:56] tilarids: bobry: ну, так тем более
[13:18:00] tilarids: у твистеда есть adbapi
[13:18:14] bobry: это для работы с бд?
[13:18:16] tilarids: и storm с этим adbapi умеет работать
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[13:18:26] tilarids: bobry: да, это асинхронная версия dbapi
[13:18:36] tilarids: название мог перепутать
[13:19:16] bobry: да, похоже это как раз то что нужно, щас буду доку читать, спасибо tilarids
[13:19:51] tilarids: bobry: не за что
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[13:20:28] tilarids: а какую вы БД собираетесь использовать?
[13:20:53] wiz: oracle бггг
[13:20:56] bobry: хах
[13:20:57] tilarids: Я помню, у меня были какие-то траблы с sqlite, но уже не помню какие. Так что если что - я предупреждал :)
[13:21:12] bobry: ну на этапе разработки sqlite, потом скорее всего mysql
[13:21:15] bobry: ой
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[13:44:52] bobry: tilarids: у него что то версия всего 0.15, со стабильностью *кроме sqlite* проблем не было случаем?
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[13:46:45] tilarids: bobry: эм, у меня это было нужно для нагрузочного тестирования, поэтому я на стабильность особо не смотрел :)
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[14:14:04] unk2k: Вопрос по джанге.
Есть модель в которой находится поле адрес, который складывается из 15 полей формы. по форма '#STREET0 ул.Кирова#BUILDING0 52' и т.д.
Вопрос как сделать форму или модель для вставки сего в БД ?
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[14:14:45] StormChild: гуглмапс, например
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[14:15:51] StormChild: или о чем речь? как сделать хтмл форму, чтоб в нее вводился адрес?
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[14:18:15] RaD: сделать модель какую надо. потом по ней сделать автоматом форму, потом вывести форму на страничку - профит
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[14:20:40] unk2k: ну смотри, у меня в форме будет Индекс, Город, Улица, Дом, а вот в модели у меня всего одно поле address и в нем должно быть #STREET0 ул.Кирова#BUILDING0 52
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[14:21:28] RaD: у тебя есть уже база?
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[14:22:19] RaD: или у тебя есть софт, который сосёт из базы в таком формате?
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[14:26:20] tilarids: unk2k: тогда делаешь такую модель, делаешь вручную форму и руками форму процессишь
[14:26:43] unk2k: RaD софт
[14:26:44] RaD: unk2k: повтори, видать у меня коннект лаганул
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[14:27:33] unk2k: tilarids можно очень простой пример для *эбилов, а то я что то понимаю как надо но как сделать не понимаю =)
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[14:27:40] RaD: тогда делаешь доп поля как я сказал, поле на каждую единицу адреса и автоматом генеришь форму, исключая из неё твоё мегаполе. делаешь метод save. в котором сохраняешь все поля, а в мегаполе формируешь правильную строку. профит
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[14:28:30] RaD: а самому делать форму - это для тех кто только джангобук прочитал :)
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[14:29:04] tilarids: RaD: и для тех, кто думает головой. У тебя так в два раза больше места в базе будет всё это занимать
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[14:29:32] tilarids: unk2k: софт будет прямо в базу стучаться? Или он тут же на сервере и написан на Python?
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[14:29:53] unk2k: угу.... то есть я делаю форму, после POST у меня " получаются обработанные данные " кторые я и пихаю в модель?
[14:30:05] RaD: ну либо место - либо удобство сопровождения
[14:30:11] unk2k: tilarids дельфи
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[14:30:25] unk2k: RaD ???
[14:30:28] unk2k: всмысле ?
[14:30:29] RaD: я выбираю второе, так как место можно купить, а время никак
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[14:30:36] RaD: щас
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[14:30:50] tilarids: RaD: фигня это, а не удобство сопровождения. Менять данные из-за особенностей реализации - это круто
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[14:32:07] unk2k: ладно, вы мне скажите я правильно мыслю или нет ?
[14:32:10] bobry: tilarids: я правильно понимаю или Storm не умеет сам таблицы создавать?
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[14:33:07] RaD:
class Mega(models.Model):
megafield = forms.CharField()
street = forms.CharField()
number = forms.CharField()

def save(self):
c = self.cleaned_data
Mega(street=c['street'], number=c['number'],
megafield='STREET0 %s NUMBER0 %s' % (c['street'], c['number'])).save()
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[14:33:16] unk2k: и еще вопрос что такое в django.db -> commit ??
[14:33:26] StormChild: с soaplib никто не работал тут?
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[14:33:45] RaD: tilarids: это мой опыт и моё решение
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[14:33:50] unk2k: RaD, агрых! models.Model а в ней forms.CharField() ??
[14:34:05] StormChild: или с ZSI...
[14:34:14] RaD: ну блин, с башки писал, извини, что не отладил, я тебе идею даю
[14:34:53] unk2k: RaD, тады вопрос. он же при .save() захочет еще данные в street и number напихать ? а их то нет ;)
[14:35:12] RaD: дык с формы только они и придут, см. cleaned_data
[14:35:23] RaD: зато ты сможешь их редактировать, если понадобится
[14:35:26] unk2k: RaD агрых! во я лашара =)
[14:35:35] unk2k: RaD спасибо!
[14:35:39] RaD: а винт докупить проще
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[14:36:34] RaD: ну, кстати save перетащи в класс формы ModelForm
[14:36:38] tilarids: RaD: ага, конечно, cleaned_data тоже частенько в модели живет
[14:36:49] tilarids: вот, уже лучше :)
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[14:47:17] RaD: я вот думаю, есть flatpage в админке, по умолчанию я им пользуюсь для разных там "доставка", "контакты"
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[14:48:27] RaD: теперь надо сделать возможность набивать статьи простые, хотелось бы тоже напихать их в flatpage, но как выводить список статей, я так думаю, надо сделать 1to1 табличку и в ней прописать ссылки на flatpage, и по этой табличке выбирать названия статей
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[15:25:08] Typhon: *телескоп, точнее
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[15:47:25] unk2k: вопрос по джанко
tset = models.ForeignKey(anyoneModel)
./manage sql myapp
create table
....
tset_id
как убрать id &
[15:47:26] unk2k: ?
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[15:53:53] mishok13: http://bit.ly/ydhMf <-- а вот и пожар в Москве
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[15:54:38] wiz: FKey(aModel, db_column="tset")
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[16:03:55] RaD: странно, нафига рынок у красногорска тушить водой из сокольников, когда там рядом в 500 метрах река
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[16:07:56] bobry: товарищи, а между sqlite3 и pysqlite2 большая разница?
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[16:08:56] bobry: или это одно и то же?
[16:09:23] bobry: sqlite3 was written by Gerhard Häring
pysqlite: (c) 2004-2005 David Rushby (c) 2005-2007 Gerhard Häring
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[16:13:13] unk2k: mishok13 я помню 1 сентября 2008 года пробка была от моего подъезда до офиса ~27км (глухая) ехал 6 часов
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[23:20:59] sevenov: Почему re.sub(r'(\d+):', '"\1":', '{0:"foo"}') может возвращать {"":"foo"}
[23:21:02] sevenov: Вот дерьмо.
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[23:22:51] red-agent:
In [2]: re.sub(r'(\d+):', '"\1":', '{0:"foo"}')
Out[2]: '{"\x01":"foo"}'

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[23:27:03] piranha: http://chavatar.com/a/2622.gif
[23:27:05] sevenov: red-agent, ну да, это юмикодное говно не вставилось.
[23:27:28] red-agent: ты тормоз =)
[23:27:34] piranha: red-agent: http://chavatar.com/a/2619.gif
[23:27:42] red-agent:
In [23]: re.sub(r'(\d+):', r'"\1":', '{0:"foo"}')
Out[23]: '{"0":"foo"}'

[23:27:54] red-agent: sevenov, ты \ не заэскейпил в питоньей строке.
[23:28:20] sevenov: хах, пиздец. Да, я тормоз.
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[23:29:30] red-agent: s/,/?
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[23:29:53] sevenov: red-agent, типа котэ и поучок палят тебя.
[23:29:56] piranha: red-agent: крутая тема
[23:30:06] sevenov: piranha, мозг выносит.
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[23:32:34] piranha: угу
[23:33:17] bobry: ужас какой
[23:34:38] piranha: http://blog.hasmanythrough.com/2009/9/3/circle-of-death
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