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Ночной вопрос (тест на то как я сильно сплю)…
Есть мидлварь которая при случае вызывается (если быть точным то это Flatpages)
и есть довесочек который относится к флэтпейджам как ForeignKey.
Собственно вопрос, как вывести в шаблон данные из довесочка, при вызове определенной страницы?
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[00:48:59] AlexKiriukha: Судя по исходникам в контектсе страницы будет объект flatpage, у которого тип FlatPage
[00:49:11] AlexKiriukha: А от него уже можно взять связанный объект
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[02:30:14] AlexKiriukha: Не думаю
[02:30:37] bobry: я вот тоже что то не думаю совсем
[02:31:35] bobry: почему self.prop = property(fget) возвращает property object, a Class.prop = property(fget) результат вычисления fget()?
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[02:33:45] AlexKiriukha: Может потому что в первом случае это метод объекта, а во втором - метод класса.
[02:33:55] sevenov: bobry, потому что свойства создаются при создании инстанса.
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[02:34:16] bobry: т.е. экземпляру низя его привязать?
[02:34:20] sevenov: т.е., либо prop = property(...), либо cls.prop = property
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[02:38:23] sevenov: Хз где в доках, но скажу так: property() - не лениво.
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[11:16:34] _lorien: тут год другой назад проскакивала ссылка на какой-то враппер вокруг голого db api - то ли nosql он назывался, то ли ещё как-то :) Никто не помнит? )
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[11:16:51] _lorien: Там типа идея в том, что нахуй ORM - работа напрямую с таблицами, но в удобном виде
[11:17:11] sevenov: _lorien, sqlalchemy?
[11:17:26] _lorien: шутим-с
[11:17:27] sevenov: :-)
[11:17:31] _lorien: Ж)
[11:17:34] nmk: привет всем. а никто django-localeurl не патчил на предмет того, что бы оно язык сохраняло в сессию? в куку не очень хочу.
[11:17:45] sevenov: но вообще, Data Mapping - есть то самое, о чем ты говоришь.
[11:17:58] sevenov: nmk, что это вообще?
[11:18:07] sevenov: типа /RU-ru/ ?
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[11:19:25] nmk: ну что-то типа того. просто эта херовина должна идти до CommonMiddleware иначе не будет работать APPEND_SLASH, а SessionMiddleware до CommonMiddleware тоже не поставишь (я кстати не знаю почему, т.е. я не разибрался, но становится невозможно залогинится, почему-то поля в модели дублируется и стандартный джанговский auth не может сделать user.save)
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[12:54:59] unk2k: Вопрос по django
есть ModelForm, я её инициализирую
q = get_object_or_404(MyModel, myparap)
form = MyModelForm(instance=q)
мне нужно что бы данные которые передавались в instance обрабатывались в ModelForm

в БД у меня хранятся serialize (по моему методу) данные, мне нужно что бы при редактировании данные дешифровывались и попадали в кучу разных полей.
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[12:55:36] tilarids: и в чём вопрос?
[12:55:37] unk2k: def __init__(...): \ super(...).__init__
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[12:57:10] unk2k: есть поле address в котором хранятся данные типа @street:mishka @city:kiev
а в форме у меня есть поля
street = forms......
city = forms......
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[13:03:24] unk2k: tilarids ...
[13:04:28] tilarids: unk2k: ну, и? Значение формы придётся инициализировать ручками и парсить внутри
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[13:04:41] tilarids: посмотри, как это происходит в самой ModelForm
[13:04:42] unk2k: вопрос как
[13:04:46] unk2k: =)
[13:04:48] unk2k: я смотрел
[13:04:50] unk2k: там непонятно
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[13:06:09] tilarids: тебе код объяснять? Смотри до понимания, продебужь, например
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[13:42:09] unk2k: >>> inst = mymodel.objects.get(pk=123)
>>> form = mymodelform(instance=inst)
>>> print form.instance.id
''
это нормально ?
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[13:51:01] wiz: а не form.initial.id ?
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[13:55:06] unk2k: короче проблема такая.
если я использую mysql то print form.instance.id возвращает то что нужно (число, idшник) и редактирование проходит отлично
если я использую oracle то print form.instance.id возвращает u'' и следовательно редактировать я не могу
[13:55:10] unk2k: что мне делать в таком случае ?
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[13:55:37] unk2k: Oracle + modelform + instance not True ;(
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[13:55:51] nmk: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bEOj2c4el8Y/SpZyR2som6I/AAAAAAAACcg/r_jD506wLAg/s800/funnybird.jpg
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[13:57:52] unk2k: wiz как бы ты делал ?
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[14:01:11] tilarids: wiz: initial - это типа начальные данны
[14:01:18] tilarids: дикт, если мне не изменяет память
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[14:08:10] unk2k: tilarids, верно, какие есть идеи по моему вопросу ?
[14:08:27] unk2k: >>> inst = mymodel.objects.get(pk=123)
>>> inst.id
123
>>> form = mymodelform(instance=inst)
>>> inst.id
''
>>> form.instance.id
''
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[14:09:14] tilarids: unk2k: если это такое только с ораклом, то копай в сторону оракла
[14:09:20] wiz: а другие поля есть у этого instance?
[14:09:22] tilarids: дебужь
[14:09:32] tilarids: у меня оракл не стоит
[14:09:40] tilarids: или открой нам ssh доступ ;)
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[14:09:45] unk2k: wiz да, но для хорошего примера мы берем id
[14:09:57] unk2k: tilarids там win машина =)
[14:10:06] unk2k: tilarids как дебужить то ??
[14:10:12] unk2k: pdb такой уровень не берет
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[14:10:21] tilarids: unk2k: как это не берёт?
[14:10:27] unk2k: а как ?\
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[14:11:12] unk2k: > /home/www/company/views.py(65)company_edit()
-> form = CompaniesForm(request.POST, instance=company)
(Pdb) n
> /home/www/company/views.py(66)company_edit()
-> if form.is_valid():
(Pdb) n

[14:11:40] tilarids: что n? s
[14:12:15] unk2k: tilarids =) n - next; узнал из help
[14:12:24] unk2k: ult z yt ghhfd &
[14:12:30] unk2k: вау =)
где я не прав ?
[14:13:09] tilarids: unk2k: n == Step Over, s == Step Into в терминах визуальных отладчиков
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[14:54:29] tilarids: Посоветуйте либу для генерации С/С++ парсеров из XML схем, пожалуйста . Можно на Python :)
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[15:43:13] mazvv: всем привет. Встречал ли кто скрипт на Pyhton для получения Google Page Rank? Те что нашел в гугле не рабочие

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[15:46:06] unk2k: mazvv =)
[15:46:19] unk2k: mazvv есть вариант проще.
[15:47:12] unk2k: mazvv написать самому, но для этого я бы тебе посоветовал скачать аллсубмитер и посмотреть как он получает.
сложно потом скинь готовый вариант в паблик
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[15:48:24] огыешсук: /me в своё время нашел в гугле рабочий, там вроде ключ должен быть валидный, только и всего
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[17:25:04] tilarids: кто юзает эклипс? Как заставить его в сайдбарном project view подсвечивать те файлы, в которых я сейчас нахожусь?
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[17:28:37] AlexKiriukha: Стрелочки туда-сюда "Link with editor", правда это не совсем то
[17:28:43] AlexKiriukha: Точнее совсем не то
[17:29:10] tilarids: AlexKiriukha: ко всему прочему, я еще и не понял, что имеено ты имел в виду
[17:30:46] AlexKiriukha: У меня слева "Pydev package explorer". В нём есть кнопы и меню. Там есть link with editor. Какбы связывает текущий редактируемый файл с его видом в дереве.
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[17:31:39] tilarids: ага, работает, но не со всеми файлами o_O
[17:32:05] tilarids: некоторые в explorere не показываются. Хотя они там есть
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[17:32:59] nmk: а я explorer вообще не юзаю. всегда navigator включаю
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[17:36:03] tilarids: эклипс аццтой. когда клацаешь по инклюду, он открывает файл не как часть проекта, а как просто файлик на диске. И потом не может его найти как часть проекта
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[17:37:40] nmk: эээ. это не эклипс.
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[17:37:45] nmk: это ты его так добави
[17:37:47] nmk: добавил
[17:37:53] nmk: в смысле source path
[17:38:17] tilarids: nmk: неа
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[17:38:27] nmk: че неа, если да :)
[17:38:31] tilarids: nmk: я имею в виду С++ инклюды
[17:38:35] tilarids: у меня тут С++ преокт
[17:38:38] tilarids: *проект
[17:38:38] nmk: ааа
[17:38:40] nmk: я думал ты про pydev
[17:38:44] nmk: там не знаю. :)
[17:38:48] tilarids: nmk: я про эклипс
[17:38:56] nmk: ну pydev это плагин для эклипса
[17:39:02] nmk: у тебя плагин для плюсов
[17:39:02] tilarids: nmk: я знаю
[17:39:16] tilarids: потому и спросил здесь, ибо знаю, что эклипсом тут пользуются
[17:39:22] tilarids: nmk: у меня и pydev тут есть
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[17:39:28] nmk: ну вот pydev нормально открывает :)
[17:39:41] nmk: а на сях я ээ. когда-то давно писал змейку. :)
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[17:58:41] nmk: только подумай про повторы
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[18:05:23] tilarids: unk2k: я уверен, что ты не это хочешь сделать
[18:05:35] tilarids: или по крайней мере, не продумал всё до конца
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[18:20:07] feedbot: Why Python Pickle is Insecure http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9itqq/why_python_pickle_is_insecure/
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[18:55:50] unk2k: глупый вопрос по django
у меня есть моедль A c полем fromregion=foreigenkey(region) из нее я делаю ModelForm так вот в получившемся cleaned_data[fromregion] отдает мне не id а то что в region->def __unicode__(self):
как мне сделать так что бы оно отдавало id ?
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[21:06:07] mr.oduvan: а где славоник?
[21:06:12] mr.oduvan: у него сервак лежит
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[21:19:34] tonn: что то не пойму как os.exec* юзать.... надо запустить "/usr/bin/ldc" с набором параметров...
http://paste.org.ru/?21ic6m вот это ругаецо
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 22, in <module>
TypeError: execv() arg 2 must contain only strings
[21:19:58] bobry: tonn: subprocess.Popen?
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[21:20:25] tonn: bobry: а чем оно лучше\хуже?
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[21:20:31] tonn: почему не ехец?
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[21:21:09] bobry: ну оно немного другое делает) запускает команду отдельным процессом, и оно принимает список параметров
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[21:25:32] tonn: http://paste.org.ru/?8pla0p
и разве else не отлавливает все остальные эксепшены не описаные выше?
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[21:27:10] tonn: чего Popenу не нравица?
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[21:34:31] tonn: хм... )) subprocess юзает в итоге exec
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[22:48:58] xa4a: если постгрес на запрос: INSERT INTO "statistic_statistic" ("content_type_id", "object_id", "hits", "date") VALUES (41, 49017, 1, E\'2009-09-09\') отвечает: IntegrityError: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "statistic_statistic_pkey", то это сиквенсы сбились?
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[23:00:48] erraen: xa4a: Если pk именно по ним - то да.
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[23:03:07] xa4a: pk - по id которое serial
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[23:08:05] gigimon: Товарищи, такое дело. У меня тут есть возможность поставить свой сервер в коло (феном 4 ядра, 8 гигов, 500 гигов винт с рейдом) в 100 мбит стойку без лимита трафика. Мне на одного дороговато получается. Собственно ищу 4-6 человек, с которыми делить оплату (примерно по 25-35 баксов с носа) виртуалка Xen, делить всем поровну
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[23:59:36] bobry: как по трушному можно properties по трушному определять в runtime?
[23:59:46] bobry: два раза по трушном %)
[23:59:49] bobry: zzz