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[01:20:29] pit: ghbdtn dctv
[01:20:34] pit: рива
[01:20:38] pit: прива
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[01:21:12] pit: народ я тут страничку отбацал , проверьте на удобство ?
[01:21:21] pit: uuhn.no-ip.org
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[01:22:07] denplis: ужас
[01:23:09] pit: я так и знал
[01:23:17] pit: :)
[01:23:35] pit: я старался всё максимально испортить :)
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[01:24:18] pit: и думаю у меня получилось :)
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[01:27:52] pit: вполне нормально или нет ?
[01:28:00] pit: я просто не пойму
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[01:28:33] pit: там еще индексацию на нигме надо ждать , а так вроде рр
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[01:28:58] joinordie: привет всем!!! пытаюсь запустить django. вываливается такое:
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/core/management/commands/runserver.py", line 48, in inner_run
self.validate(display_num_errors=True)
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/core/management/base.py", line 246, in validate
num_errors = get_validation_errors(s, app)
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/core/management/validation.py", line 22, in get_validation_errors
from django.db import models, connection
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/db/__init__.py", line 57, in <module>
'TIME_ZONE': settings.TIME_ZONE,
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/db/backends/dummy/base.py", line 47, in __init__
self.client = DatabaseClient(self)
TypeError: object.__new__() takes no parameters

куда копать?

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[01:29:06] red-agent: pit, Ты издеваешься, что-ли?
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[01:29:15] pit: потом вместо CMS == Вход в си
стему
[01:29:33] denplis: счетчиков добавь
[01:29:49] red-agent: joinordie, У тебя наверняка стоит еще одна, потенциально более старая версия Django.
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[01:30:13] pit: denplis а что мало счётчиков ?
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[01:30:34] pit: red-agent: почему ?
[01:30:42] denplis: конечно же мало
[01:30:55] denplis: банеров не забудь
[01:31:01] pit: какие еще надо пихать?
[01:31:02] red-agent: pit, Что бы так засрать plone -- нада быть дебилом законченным.
[01:31:19] pit: red-agent: стараюсь :)
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[01:32:07] pit: red-agent: что ты понимаешь под "засрать"
[01:32:20] denplis: это еще и cms=/
[01:32:34] red-agent: pit, Облажатся с дизайном.
[01:33:01] pit: red-agent: :))) ну да дизайнер из меня точно еще тот :)))
[01:33:50] joinordie: red-agent: точно было 2-е джанги. теперь заработало. спасибо
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[01:34:07] red-agent: joinordie, np.
[01:34:39] bobry: ого, "дизайн"
[01:34:46] pit: denplis: а какие еще считалки надо ставить ?
[01:34:50] bobry: там одна страничка? или я что то не так понял?
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[01:35:03] bobry: pit: там вроде как *сарказм* был :)
[01:35:10] denplis: )
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[01:35:37] bobry: я думаю цветовую схему точно стоит "пересмотреть"
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[01:35:57] red-agent: Я думаю руки вырвать нада и вставить там, где им место -- в жопе.
[01:36:05] bobry: футы, грубости
[01:36:15] denplis: это уже без сарказма
[01:36:16] red-agent: Констатация факта.
[01:36:20] red-agent: Угу.
[01:36:23] bobry: не поспоришь
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[01:36:47] bobry: ого, там еще есть горячие клавиши
[01:37:13] bobry: или это уже заслуга plone?
[01:37:26] red-agent: Ну не его же.
[01:37:35] bobry: ну я просто plone не трогал никогда)
[01:37:42] bobry: поэтому наверняка не знаю
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[01:39:18] pit: мне уже стыдно :)
[01:39:22] pit: :)))
[01:39:40] pit: дело не в дезайне :)) а в идее
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[01:39:59] red-agent: С таким дизайном -- всем насрать на твои идеи.
[01:40:03] bobry: дИзайне, похоже дело действительно не в нем) как уже выше товарищь red-agent написал
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[01:40:29] red-agent: Потому, что больше 5 секунд никто не эту лажу обвешенную каунтерами смотреть не будет.
[01:40:35] bobry: хах
[01:40:36] bobry: :D
[01:40:45] bobry: зачем столько статистики pit?
[01:41:01] bobry: что мешает прикрутить какой нить внутренний счетчик?
[01:41:12] pit: я еще и грамотейка :) дизингом не занимаюсь :) так еще и с оЩибками пишу
[01:41:13] red-agent: bobry, Ты не шаришь.
[01:41:27] red-agent: Все крутые пацаны на районе должны обвешаться каунтерами.
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[01:41:38] red-agent: Чтоб все видели, что у них есть 1 честный посетитель в день.
[01:41:40] bobry: у кого больше?)
[01:41:45] bobry: читай длиннее)
[01:41:47] red-agent: И тот - google bot или хозяин сайта.
[01:42:14] bobry: lol
[01:42:23] pit: :))) молочаги :)
[01:42:28] pit: лол
[01:42:35] bobry: pit, нескромный вопрос: сколько тебе лет?
[01:42:42] pit: 25
[01:42:51] pit: я не дизайнгер
[01:42:59] bobry: ого, не ожидал, честно говоря
[01:43:17] pit: а ты сколько думал 14
[01:43:22] bobry: есть такая вещь как чувство гармонии :) не обязательно быть дизайнером
[01:43:24] pit: :)
[01:43:35] red-agent: Было бы 14 -- был бы шанс на спасение.
[01:43:42] bobry: у Plone разве нет дефолтной темы какой нить?
[01:43:47] bobry: посексуальнее
[01:43:57] red-agent: А если 25 (что похоже на пиздежь, учитывая увиденное и услышанное) -- то это клиника.
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[01:44:08] pit: моё чувство гормонии заканчивается когда я выхожу за пределы консоли
[01:44:14] red-agent: bobry, Вполне нормальная у него дефолтная тема.
[01:44:15] bobry: гАрмонии
[01:44:24] bobry: что тогда мешало оставить ее - не понятно
[01:44:28] red-agent: гормонии...
[01:44:32] red-agent: Это конечно пять баллов.
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[01:45:09] pit: от слова гормон :)))
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[01:45:19] bobry: смешно
[01:45:38] bobry: 17 - не больше
[01:46:20] pit: я так хорошо сохранился .. или просто медленно развивался :)
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[01:46:53] bobry: хорошо сохранился, те кому за 50 говорят
[01:48:39] pit: тогда надо идти спать , а то 3 сутки пошли
[01:49:01] bobry: срочный сайт?
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[01:50:18] pit: нет другую рр выполнял , а с этим я вошкаюсь чтоб отвлечься
[01:50:44] pit: у меня сегодня еще модем горел ... это было жестко
[01:50:59] bobry: может это от паленой пластмассы все?)
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[01:52:07] pit: да не говори :) палёная пластмасса она ж только хорошим шаманским бубном изгоняется (надо спать кажется гнать уде по черной начал)
[01:52:13] red-agent: [01:47:59] pit: я так хорошо сохранился .. или просто медленно развивался :)
[01:52:39] red-agent: Если к 25 (что опять же, не устану повторить - похоже на пиздежь) -- это уже патология умственного развития.
[01:53:22] pit: red-agent: посмотрел бы я на тебя еслиб ты 3 дня не спал :)
[01:53:38] red-agent: Опять же - пиздежь.
[01:53:50] red-agent: Если бы ты не спал 3ое суток -- ты бы языком ворочать не смог.
[01:53:53] red-agent: Не то что по клаве долбить.
[01:54:08] pit: я те говорю спал мало наверное часа 4 за 3 суток
[01:54:27] pit: это не сон
[01:54:29] red-agent: Нууу, я несколько лет под ряд спал по 4 часа в сутки.
[01:54:40] red-agent: 4, 6 - если охрененно повезет.
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[01:57:03] pit: реально я понимаю что сайт дерьмо , а что делать .. никогда этим не занимался , решил на досуги со стряпать .. решил кк настоящий рокер всё испортить максимально... думаю получилось ... ладно я спать , а вы кк хотите
[01:57:30] pit: бб
[01:57:48] red-agent: Вменяемому человеку я бы посоветовал изучить Django и написать себе нормально сайт.
[01:58:10] pit: сколько займёт в среднем ?
[01:58:35] red-agent: Но меня почему-то пугает перспектива, чтоб ты ебал нам мозги 24/7 с этим. Потому, что я помню какой ты код писал. Такое хрен забудешь, если даже захочешь. Так что тебе бы для начала питон выучить.
[01:58:43] red-agent: Индивидуально.
[01:59:23] pit: может еще и тутариал индивидуально переписать ?
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[01:59:51] pit: я тогда только начинал .. так что писал кк мог :)
[02:00:05] pit: всё меня рубит не могу
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[02:01:16] pit: red-agent: сколько занимает в среднем освоение джанги
[02:01:28] red-agent: Сказано же тебе - индивидуально.
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[02:02:08] pit: понятно что и всю жизнь можно картину писать
[02:04:21] pit: кароче старый дедовский способ читать тутариал и думать...
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[02:06:29] pit: не счя мпд до собирается и потом точно спать
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[02:10:28] pit: всё теперь точно всем пока
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[03:04:01] joinordie: подскажите как пользоваться django paginatior. код беру с сайта джанги, но ничего не работает, вернее ничего не выводит.
def view_main(request):
#list_db = mysqdb("select title from category;")
list_db = ['1231','3453','5555','3333','666','777','dagd']
paginator = Paginator(list_db, 3)
try:
page = int(request.GET.get('page', '1'))
except ValueError:
page = 1
try:
contacts = paginator.page(page)
except (EmptyPage, InvalidPage):
contacts = paginator.page(paginator.num_pages)
return render_to_response('main.html', {"contacts": contacts})
[03:05:19] red-agent: mysqdb("select title from category;")
[03:05:22] red-agent: Это еще что такое?
[03:05:31] joinordie: то мое.
[03:05:44] red-agent: Я понял, я спрашиваю что это и зачем?
[03:06:12] joinordie: ну я так в базу лажу, и достаю список
[03:06:27] red-agent: /me прозрел.
[03:06:35] gigimon: joinordie: пхпэшник?
[03:06:47] joinordie: не,
[03:06:54] red-agent: Я даже не знаю что на это ответить :D
[03:06:57] gigimon: joinordie: пройди в джанге первые 4 урока
[03:07:05] sevenov: joinordie, ты кто?
[03:07:13] gigimon: joinordie: там объяснят как надо в базу за данными ходить
[03:07:50] red-agent: sevenov, Феерично, не? :D
[03:08:02] sevenov: red-agent, это редкий случай.
[03:08:07] gigimon: скажите, http://dumpz.org/12508/ сильно бред?

[03:08:09] sevenov: надо запомнить дату.
[03:08:14] joinordie: да читаю, но если не пробовать то забуду. и толку от того что читал. как в базу правильно лазить я видел.
[03:08:16] red-agent: sevenov, Как страшно жить на свете.
[03:08:24] sevenov: red-agent, да ваще.
[03:08:31] gigimon: joinordie: точно не так, как ты :) а через модели....
[03:08:48] joinordie: это просто быстрый способ, что бы пока не путаться
[03:08:50] red-agent: Поставить full-stack web framework c ORM - и потом вытворять такое...
[03:09:09] gigimon: joinordie: ты травишь? Post.objects.all()
[03:09:13] gigimon: куда короче
[03:09:32] joinordie: ээ, чего?
[03:09:33] gigimon: sevenov: ^^
[03:09:56] gigimon: joinordie: я те гвоорю, пройди первые четыре урока в джанге, прочиатй про ORM
[03:10:10] gigimon: joinordie: ну скажи, писал же на пхп?
[03:10:13] sevenov: joinordie, на php@cjr спроси, там помогут.
[03:10:24] joinordie: хорошо, ушел читать.
[03:10:30] gigimon: sevenov: http://dumpz.org/12508/ сильно бред? :(
[03:10:32] joinordie: да, писал
[03:10:45] gigimon: joinordie: в угол! и читать отче наш
[03:10:54] red-agent: Да понятно что писал.
[03:10:57] gigimon: и на доске писать: я больше не буду
[03:11:05] gigimon: /me не писал на пхп :)
[03:11:10] sevenov: gigimon, зачем?
[03:11:12] joinordie: ну так все с него начинали.
[03:11:17] gigimon: sevenov: что именно?
[03:11:18] red-agent: Обычно, если кто-то творит что-то феерично-долбоебичное -- это phpшник.
[03:11:24] gigimon: ))
[03:11:28] sevenov: gigimon, ну зачем ssh?
[03:11:50] gigimon: sevenov: надо, потом юзать в 1 хрене, мини мониторилке вирт хотсинга
[03:12:04] gigimon: sevenov: я в плане не сильно я бредово начал? ))
[03:12:42] sevenov: gigimon, где new-style class? )
[03:12:54] red-agent: Ты бы, для начала, blank lines поставил между методами... кагбе...
[03:12:56] sevenov: чето мутерно
[03:13:00] gigimon: sevenov: ну вот типа про это и спрашивал) ща пойду читать
[03:13:14] sevenov: много лишнего
[03:13:44] gigimon: red-agent: есть сэр
[03:14:27] gigimon: у какого питон софта не сложный для понимания код?
[03:15:20] red-agent: sevenov, Ну че, gajim еще течет?
[03:16:23] sevenov: red-agent, нуу, 102 метра сожрано. 13 конф и 23 человека онлайн.
[03:16:32] gigimon: sevenov: new style классы с 2.6 ? а то и с 3.0? или я дурак?
[03:16:52] red-agent: Ты дурак. В 2.5 они уже есть.
[03:16:56] sevenov: gigimon, наследуемые от object
[03:16:57] gigimon: ок
[03:17:04] sevenov: red-agent, а, я тормоз. Не 102 )
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[03:17:16] sevenov: 102M 50504 17688 -- норм
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[03:17:26] red-agent: 102 Это наверное vss
[03:17:34] red-agent: Ты мне rss, резидентную скажи.
[03:18:25] red-agent: ps aux|grep gajim в общем покажи
[03:18:27] sevenov: да, virt. 50 же. Второй столбец
[03:18:52] red-agent: Значит не течет.
[03:19:04] sevenov: Угу, норм.
[03:21:37] gigimon: такс, доку нашел, будем читать
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[03:23:51] gigimon: в каком софте можно поглядеть нормальный стиль написания?
[03:24:34] red-agent: PEP8 прочти.
[03:24:42] red-agent: Я тебе уже десять раз говорил об этом.
[03:25:00] gigimon: его я изредка перечитываю (:
[03:25:18] red-agent: sevenov, Я тут на днях закоммитил в gajim новую командную систему. И что-то мне нравится, то что я вижу =(
[03:25:36] red-agent: Сижу вот думаю, не переписать-ли, снова...
[03:25:47] red-agent: Может заревьюишь код, по-диагонали?
[03:25:53] red-agent: Скажешь свое имхо
[03:26:00] sevenov: red-agent, в tip'e?
[03:26:06] red-agent: Yup.
[03:26:14] sevenov: ща, обновлюсь
[03:26:18] red-agent: http://trac.gajim.org/browser/src/commands
[03:26:24] red-agent: Тут можно пробраузить.
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[03:26:51] sevenov: а в коде куда смотреть?
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[03:27:25] red-agent: Ну ты в целом архитектуру/код посмотри. framwork, implementation и custom тебя интересуют.
[03:30:07] sevenov: red-agent, ээ, а что за коммандная система? Типа optparse или opster?
[03:30:27] red-agent: Блядь, ну не тупи.
[03:30:29] sevenov: А, догнал
[03:30:32] red-agent: /комманды
[03:31:07] sevenov: да понял уже
[03:31:08] red-agent: Вместо того дерьма, что у них было -- крутая система, с прямым маппингом опций,аргументов прямо в аргументы метода.
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[03:33:06] red-agent: Так что теперь определять свои команды можна с легкостью и непринужденностью.
[03:33:08] sevenov: framework заценил, вроде бы Ъ.
[03:33:48] sevenov: >' ' if args else str()
А я предпочетаю писать так:
args and ' ' or str()
[03:33:49] sevenov: :-)
[03:34:03] sevenov: по вкусу
[03:35:08] red-agent: args and ' ' or str() - вернет тебе bool
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[03:36:55] sevenov:
In [1]: foo = True

In [2]: foo and ' ' or str()
Out[2]: ' '
[03:37:17] red-agent:
In [26]: False and ' '
Out[26]: False
[03:37:22] red-agent: Ну вот так вернет =)
[03:37:30] red-agent: Ну в общем да, на вкус и цвет.
[03:37:38] red-agent: Но тернаный if как-то более понятно.
[03:37:44] sevenov: так-то само собой ) просто это один из вариантов записи if else
[03:37:51] sevenov: ну в общем да
[03:38:03] gigimon: спок
[03:38:08] sevenov: gigimon, снов
[03:38:37] sevenov: red-agent, у тебя py2.6?
[03:38:41] red-agent: 2.5
[03:38:57] sevenov: так. Похоже меня сильно глючит
[03:39:25] sevenov: http://trac.gajim.org/browser/src/commands/implementation.py#L58
[03:39:30] sevenov: _()
[03:39:40] sevenov: но импорта не видно
[03:39:48] red-agent: А его и не нужно.
[03:40:28] sevenov: /me слоупок. Не знал.
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[03:41:56] sevenov: Ну круто, мне код нравится
[03:42:58] sevenov: а у них сейчас как? /me заманался искать
[03:44:21] sevenov: /me открыл gajim.py и снова охуел.
[03:44:25] red-agent: Всмысле, как?
[03:44:42] red-agent: Сейчас уже так - мой код.
[03:44:52] sevenov: Аа.
[03:45:05] red-agent: А если хочешь глянуть как было - найди мой коммит по слову swept
[03:46:08] sevenov: Странно. http://trac.gajim.org/search?q=swept&noquickjump=1&changeset=
[03:46:13] sevenov: Странно. http://trac.gajim.org/search?q=swept&noquickjump=1&changeset=on
[03:46:46] red-agent: Угу, поиск глючит
[03:46:47] red-agent: http://trac.gajim.org/changeset/11035%3A2306f32cc4d2
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[03:47:18] sevenov: Ох, ёпт.
[03:47:23] red-agent: Ага...
[03:48:06] sevenov: черт, я снова не усну %)
[03:48:30] sevenov: Тоже что ли что нибудь накидать для гаджима
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[03:59:16] sevenov: Напишу-ка я Tunes
[04:00:12] red-agent: Какие tunes?
[04:00:28] red-agent: Которые PEP (personal eventing...) что-ли?
[04:00:35] red-agent: Они уже есть в таком случае.
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[04:02:57] sevenov: Они хуевые какие-то.
[04:03:11] sevenov: http://trac.gajim.org/browser/src/music_track_listener.py
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[04:07:31] sevenov: ну.
[04:07:59] red-agent: хз
[04:08:05] red-agent: /me пожал плечами - я не юзаю.
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[16:16:15] xa4a: чо, раз воскресенье, так всем спать можно??
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[16:17:38] xa4a: я вот смотрю, будет ли разница, если в жанге модели в class Meta: всунуть order_with_respect_to = 'fk_field'; ordering = ['other_field'] или если всунуть просто ordering = ['fk_field', 'other_field']
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[16:20:09] feedbot: PyCUDA lets you access Nvidia‘s CUDA parallel computation API from Python http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9mc5x/pycuda_lets_you_access_nvidias_cuda_parallel/
CorePy: Assembly Programming in Python http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9mc5o/corepy_assembly_programming_in_python/
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[17:08:45] gigimon: книга learning python марка луца нормуль?
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[17:39:43] xa4a: может быть
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[17:47:49] gigimon: sevenov: почини на своем сайте http://sevenov.info/ хождение по страницам нормальынм квадратом) а то оно всегда с главной перекидывает
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[19:12:41] xa4a: гг http://lateral.netmanagers.com.ar/weblog/2009/09/17.html#BB829
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