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[01:57:39] pit: возникла проблема "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyparsing_py3.py", line 2470
[01:58:12] pit: gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.24/python'
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.24/python'
Making install in tests
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.24/python/tests'
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.24/python/tests'
gmake[2]: Цель `install-exec-am' не требует выполнения команд.
/bin/sh /usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.24/install-sh -d /usr/local/share/examples/py-libxslt
(for test in basic.py exslt.py extelem.py extfunc.py test.xml test.xsl pyxsltproc.py; \
do /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0644 ./$test /usr/local/share/examples/py-libxslt ; done)
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.24/python/tests'
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.24/python/tests'
Listing /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages ...
Compiling /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/libxslt.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyparsing_py3.py ...
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyparsing_py3.py", line 2470
except ParseException as err:
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/py-libxslt.
[01:59:11] pit: посмотрев http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/message/view/home/12519215
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[01:59:58] pit: понял что способ должен быть
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[02:01:07] bobry: думается мне что трейс лучше куда нибудь а ля dumpz.org положить
[02:02:23] pit: блин ты прав
[02:02:41] pit: забываются правила канала когда долго не рр на нём
[02:02:58] bobry: это скорее правило здравого смысла
[02:03:26] bobry: а какая у тебя версия питона?
[02:03:42] pit: 2,5
[02:04:02] red-agent: pit, у 2.5 не такой синтаксис ловли эксепшонов.
[02:04:12] pit: http://dumpz.org/12552/
[02:04:15] bobry: except Exception, e:
[02:04:17] bobry: по моему
[02:04:18] red-agent: В 2.5 эксепшон ловиться так - except ParseException, exc:
[02:04:34] bobry: ну да, оно самое
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[02:09:17] pit: те кк я понимаю , мне нужно указать исключения или отработать contine
[02:10:15] pit: тк свойство в объекте данных не существует
[02:10:20] bobry: нет, у тебя два варианта, либо поменять в указанной строчке синтаксис, либо обновить питон
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[02:10:54] bobry: pyparsing_py3, это видимо версия для 3ки, зачем она тебе?
[02:11:00] pit: я не хочу половину системы пересобирать
[02:11:10] bobry: "пересобирать"? зачем?
[02:11:28] pit: да она автоматом залилась ... может её удалить...
[02:11:59] pit: pyparsing_py3
[02:12:01] bobry: мб ты просто установил не ту версию библиотеки?
[02:12:23] pit: во фряшке она сама ставится
[02:12:41] bobry: что значит сама?
[02:13:06] bobry: ты ставишь библиотеку для 2.5 а она тащит за собой библиотеку для 3ки?
[02:13:33] pit: из портов же ставлю
[02:13:45] bobry: ну и что, там нет зависимостей?
[02:14:39] pit: есть .. и они увидили что питон есть и залили библиотеку
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[02:15:53] bobry: ладно, я ничего не понимаю, пойду спать
[02:16:09] pit: давай , я еще по ковыряюсь
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[11:59:39] unk2k: Джанго
Есть БД с данными + форма для ввода данных, мне нужно при сохранении редактируемых данных проверять на изменения, как ?
_DB.A = 1
_DB.B = 2
_POST.A = 1
_PSOT.B = 2
if _DB == _POST: return 1 else: return 2
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[12:06:16] xa4a: как сравнить объекты?
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[12:27:36] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[12:29:19] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[12:30:05] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[12:34:45] Большой Лис: почему обязательно 2+ слова
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[15:34:36] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[15:36:25] wiz: как раз этим и занимаюсь (8
[15:36:39] mishok13: link or it didn't happen
[15:37:07] wiz: для внутренего пользования. домен снаружи даже не видно.
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[15:46:06] Izvr: у меня вот такой вопрос
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[15:46:36] Ляпатяпа: а у меня длиннее
[15:46:48] Ляпатяпа: вот такенный
[15:47:39] Izvr: я могу взять модуль django-treebeard и в качестве поля класса, который я наследую от MP_Node указать fk на класс Model, но при создании объектов ссылаться реально на классы, для которых Model является родительским классом
[15:47:53] Izvr: т.е. по сути я хочу дерево с разными типами листьев
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[16:39:00] unk2k: есть форма с selectом -> <select name=myselect><option value="mykey">mytext</option></select>
почему ?
>>>print form.cleaned_data['myselect']
u'mytext'
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[16:41:58] sevenov: xa4a, ты забыл подписаться, К.О.
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[16:44:18] unk2k: xa4a да нет...
[16:46:05] xa4a: unk2k: файрабогм смотри, что броузер отправляет
[16:46:12] xa4a: файрбогом
[16:46:13] xa4a: да
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[16:47:00] unk2k: xa4a я не дебил
[16:47:04] unk2k: он отправляет все как надо
[16:47:42] xa4a: если он отправляет mykey, то mytext в форме неоткуда взяться
[16:47:48] xa4a: (на сервере)
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[16:47:57] xa4a: разве что у тебя где-то default
[16:48:13] xa4a: и форма от броузера не пересекается с джанго-формой в этом поле
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[16:49:14] unk2k: имхо магия
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[16:50:12] unk2k: <select id="id_currency" name="currency">
<option selected="selected" value="0">Рубли</option>
<option value="2">Американские доллары</option>
<option value="4">Евро</option>
</select>
[16:50:14] sevenov: unk2k, имхо ты в форме накосячил
[16:50:25] unk2k: где ?:
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[16:57:26] GrimbleGromble: скинь что выдает form.as_p и что ты сам сделал
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[17:18:57] огыешсук: А жаббер транспорта к LCS знает кто?
[17:19:18] wiz_: LCS это що?
[17:19:45] wiz_: large cardon shnolider?
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[17:20:07] feedbot: {% tree %}: деревья в Джанго-шаблонах http://softwaremaniacs.org/blog/2009/09/21/trees-in-django-templates/
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[18:14:18] mr.oduvan: вопрос по тестам в джанге.
[18:14:32] wiz: !google python django testing
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[18:15:41] mr.oduvan: Есть ли такой вариант, и на сколько он актуален, когда я сначало готовлю тестовую базу, вношу туда все необходимые данные. Создаю ее дамп. Потом применяю дамп и запускаю тесты.
[18:16:12] mr.oduvan: Т.е. процесс тестирования сводится к применению дампа и запуска тестов
[18:17:05] mr.oduvan: ?
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[18:19:27] mr.oduvan: wiz, я чесно говоря не увидел там ответа на свой вопрос
[18:19:33] wiz: смотри ещё
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[18:20:07] feedbot: Experienced Django / Python Contractor http://djangogigs.com/gigs/703/
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[18:21:46] wiz: спорим пол зарплаты, что там ответ есть? (=
[18:22:10] wiz: *на
[18:22:38] mr.oduvan: /me не получает ЗП.
[18:22:40] mr.oduvan: ДАВАЙ!
[18:24:47] mr.oduvan: можно либо в сетапе применять дамп либо ранер свой написать
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[18:26:56] wiz: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/#fixture-loading
[18:27:29] mr.oduvan: дамп имеется ввиду мускуловский
[18:27:50] wiz: охохо
[18:28:15] mr.oduvan: или постгрисовый... но не встроенное..
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[18:28:59] AlexKiriukha: Т.е. ты имеешь ввиду, что у тебя не фикстуры в json/xml, а дам базы данных?
[18:29:16] mr.oduvan: да
[18:29:46] wiz: анахуа?
[18:30:11] mr.oduvan: если считать, что "анахуа" - это "зачем"
[18:30:30] mr.oduvan: то я не свосем понимаю назначение фикстур
[18:30:59] mr.oduvan: они полезны... (хоть и глучены) в случае миграции с одного драйвера на другой.
[18:31:09] mr.oduvan: а так вообще не понятно зачем они нада..
[18:31:12] wiz: ,zk
[18:31:22] wiz: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/#fixture-loading
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[18:31:48] mr.oduvan: ,kz
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[18:32:13] AlexKiriukha: Они для того, чтобы не использовать базаданноспецифичный дамп, так то
[18:32:34] mr.oduvan: а опчему его нельзя использовать?
[18:32:49] mr.oduvan: *почему
[18:32:53] AlexKiriukha: Вот представь, что ты разрабатываешь на mysql, а я - на sqlite. Что мне делать с твоим дампом?
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[18:33:13] mr.oduvan: вот я и говорю... только для миграции
[18:33:18] mr.oduvan: и все...
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[18:34:11] AlexKiriukha: Нет. Пока ты единственный человек разрабатывает - у тебя всё просто. К тому же фикстуры используются как данные для тестирования. В доке это есть.
[18:35:02] mr.oduvan: а почему дампы не могут использоваться для тестирования?
[18:35:07] wiz: могут
[18:35:10] wiz: используй
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[18:37:03] mr.oduvan: просто я прежде чем чтото юзать... люблю поиснтересоваться зачем :) ко коллег ,kz
[18:37:13] mr.oduvan: *у коллег
[18:37:30] mr.oduvan: т.е. миграция и данные для тестов.
[18:37:38] wiz: чем дамп принципиально лучше фикстур?
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[18:39:05] mr.oduvan: начинать юзать чтото из-за того, что оно не хуже?
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[18:39:25] mr.oduvan: ладно.. в принципе суть я понял..
[18:39:35] mr.oduvan: не буду больше испытывать ваше терпение
[18:39:37] wiz: в смысле "начинать" ?
[18:39:39] wiz: продолжать
[18:39:45] wiz: это как раз дампы - "начинать"
[18:39:54] AlexKiriukha: Ну ты даёшь. Есть конкретное достоинство - независимость от базы данных. К тому же это интегрировано в джангу.
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[18:46:52] mr.oduvan: да.. я понимаю..
[18:47:11] mr.oduvan: просто к примеру... апп использует голый сюл
[18:47:18] mr.oduvan: согласен не по джанговски это..
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[18:48:04] mr.oduvan: но даладно.. у меня еще куча вопросов по поводу этих тестов :)
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[18:49:28] wiz: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
[18:49:33] wiz: а у нас всё тот же ответ (8
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[18:49:57] mr.oduvan: я да я их еще не задал
[18:50:08] mr.oduvan: помоему
[18:50:17] wiz: "по поводу этих тестов"
[18:50:35] mr.oduvan: :) и шо?
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[19:22:15] Мозгошредер: Мне одному показалось, что дока по регуляркам низменилась? О_О
[19:22:19] Мозгошредер: или у меня глюки
[19:22:21] Мозгошредер: оф. дока
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[19:23:58] Мозгошредер: что-то опера 10 меня не радует...
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[19:37:02] Мозгошредер: ytytyt
[19:37:04] Мозгошредер: ненене
[19:37:14] Мозгошредер: убогое глючное и на гтк >.<
[19:37:14] AlexKiriukha: Может просто не радует как раньше потому что привыкание?
[19:37:28] Мозгошредер: AlexKiriukha, она глючит
[19:37:42] Мозгошредер: как в случае с доками
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[19:38:28] AlexKiriukha: Мозгошредер: странно. Не замечал. К тому же можно слать багрепорты
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[22:22:32] mr.oduvan: а у потока есть айди?
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[22:23:46] mr.oduvan: есть какая нить глобальная переменная, чтоб понимать айди потока?
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[22:30:04] xa4a: треда?
[22:30:35] xa4a: threading.currentThread()
[22:30:49] mr.oduvan: ооо
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[22:33:05] mr.oduvan: ident -
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[22:33:10] xa4a: гхм
[22:33:11] mr.oduvan: это общий в системе?
[22:33:18] xa4a: threading.currentThread() == threading.current_thread()
[22:33:24] xa4a: зачем это?
[22:33:47] xa4a: mr.oduvan: вряд ли
[22:33:48] mr.oduvan: это еще на шаг приблизит меня к завоеванию мира
[22:34:23] xa4a: ты вряд ли можешь знать что-либо о потоках в других ОС-процессах
[22:34:56] mr.oduvan: спасибо
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