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[02:47:23] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[14:02:44] Большой Лис: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/70330/
[14:02:46] Большой Лис: мухаха
[14:04:01] sevenov: я тоже поржал
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[14:07:21] inlanger: привет, народ... нигде не смог найти - как спрятать главное окно tkinter? Пытался гуглить в сторону visibility, но нигде не нашёл как им пользоваться... Может подскажет кто чего-нить?
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[14:14:31] nmk: а superfcgi (http://softwaremaniacs.org/forum/django/14820/) никто не юзал?
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[14:16:47] sevenov: nmk, сколько их еще будет?
[14:17:08] nmk: не знаю не знаю. но вдруг что-то хорошее
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[14:19:17] sevenov: mishok13, у тебя тоже везде разрешен листинг скрытых директорий?
[14:19:58] mishok13: ммм, чо?
[14:20:04] mishok13: каких скрытых директорий?
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[14:20:33] sevenov: mishok13, .svn етц.
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[14:21:14] mishok13: и где мне их хранить?
[14:21:21] mishok13: вместе со статикой, бля
[14:21:23] mishok13: ?
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[14:22:12] mishok13: мы вообще заворачиваем все исходники в яйцы, гемы и дебы для простого деплоймента
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[14:22:30] sevenov: mishok13, да я о маразме "гигантов".
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[14:22:43] sevenov: ниибу вообще как у них получилось такое говно.
[14:22:46] mishok13: я думаю, это не маразм, это лень
[14:23:13] sevenov: ну бля, в этом деле нельзя лениться.
[14:24:16] sevenov: понимаю, говносайтик там какой нибудь
[14:24:33] mishok13: охлол, ты еще скажи что нельзя блять технологии 70ых в работе использовать
[14:24:34] sevenov: а хабр - это же типа коммьюнити профессионалов. Лол.
[14:24:45] mishok13: комюнити хуедрочеров
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[14:25:48] mishok13: даже нету силёнок код открыть, в отличии от реддита
[14:26:20] sevenov: на говно они.
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[14:26:36] sevenov: а хуле там код открывать? И так понятно, что все накостылено
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[14:27:09] Dimka: )
[14:28:24] mishok13: хотелось бы глянуть
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[14:28:50] mishok13: ваще, хабр, судя по комментам, пристанище выпускников техникумов
[14:29:10] mishok13: со знанием джавы, сешарпа и дельфи (одного из)
[14:29:13] Большой Лис: ПТУшнеги!
[14:29:50] mishok13: сука, они еще и ссылку на своих американских собратьев-даунов кинули (digg)
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[14:31:43] mishok13: а советчиков-то безграмотных, пиздец какой-то
[14:32:09] mishok13: вместо того, чтобы посоветовать разворачивать всё по-человечески, они deny правила для .svn пишут
[14:32:12] mishok13: кретины, блять
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[14:32:43] tilarids: а что, неужто кто-то до сих пор не юзает ссх?
[14:32:53] sevenov: хз, я привык к хабрамаразму.
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[14:37:34] mishok13: """Как Вы себе представляете использование кода Миранды (Чистый C) в проекте под Симбиан (Стогое ООП)"""
[14:37:43] mishok13: охлолочёмон?
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[14:38:43] tilarids: в симбиане строгое ООП? Как говорится, гагага
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[14:43:52] sevenov: нынче гуси стали модными, гагага.
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[15:48:01] rulexec: а можно с помощью питона узнать заголовок активного окна?
[15:48:21] bobry: в какой ОС?
[15:48:27] Dimka: с помощью питона можно все
[15:48:28] rulexec: Archlinux
[15:48:32] Dimka: )
[15:49:05] bobry: наверное через какой нить xlib можно
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[16:12:18] rulexec: у меня есть модуль game, в нём есть objects, в нём menu, как бы мне "оттуда" импортировать модуль который "выше", т.е. из game.objects.menu импортировать game.models?
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[16:16:05] wonderfulll: в python path добавь проект
[16:16:36] wonderfulll: и импортируй потом как хошь
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[16:20:09] feedbot: diesel - framework for writing network applications using asynchronous I/O in Python http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9naln/diesel_framework_for_writing_network_applications/
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[16:27:38] rulexec: блин
[16:27:43] rulexec: опять этот бот
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[16:31:14] fandal: Всем привет, выручите советом
хочу отправлять вывод файла в скрипт таким образом, см. ниже
tail -F --retry tttest | ./simpleinp.py
как сделать так чтобы скрипт постояноо слушал stdin.... и когда появляется новая запись, то её сразу же обрабатывал бы скрипт
пытался делать через sys.stdin.readlines() , но она работает только если cat`ом читать файл а tail не воспринимает...
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[16:36:55] joinordie: while(1):
try:
command = "/usr/bin/tail -n 1 /var/log/messages"
proc = subprocess.Popen(command, shell = True, stdout = subprocess.PIPE)
text = proc.stdout.readlines()
except:
print "error"
sys.exit()


[16:38:07] xa4a: fandal: читать через readline() по строке?
[16:38:13] xa4a: readlines вычитывает весь поток (пытается)
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[16:40:00] fandal: есть файл лога который пишется постоянно, хочу постоянно получать некий анализ файла, который будет делать скрипт
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[16:41:44] fandal: если cat`ом прочесть файл в скрипт, то сработает, а если следить через tail - то соответственно нет
[16:42:09] xa4a: запускай скрипт кроном, запоминай до какой строки дочитал в прошлый раз, отчитывай новые и сохраняй лог
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[16:42:13] xa4a: как делает awstats
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[16:43:53] nmk: а какой есть qtшный или gtkшный просмотр diff'а?
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[16:45:05] nmk: gvim :)
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[16:52:44] nmk: еще б синтаксис того, что в диффе подсвечивало ;)
[16:52:45] xa4a: а, gvim, да
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[19:13:36] Ляпатяпа: xa4a, судя по логам говорили про логи... а говорили ли что логи за сеньтябрь не видны?
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[20:20:10] feedbot: Python developer. Remote or Office based. http://djangogigs.com/gigs/706/
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[22:03:56] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
[22:04:07] xa4a: !projidea
[22:04:31] xa4a: /me думает чего бы добавить в технологии, чтобы разброс был побольше. а потом выбирать тему для диплома..
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[22:11:36] jedgar: а где список текущих технологий?
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[22:13:26] jedgar: обязательно добавь iPhone, если вдруг нет =)
[22:15:15] jedgar: а также флэш и джумулу =
[22:15:17] jedgar: )
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[22:18:10] tilarids: !projidea
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[22:19:01] tilarids: xa4a, у тебя магистерский диплом или бакалаврский?
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[22:22:40] xa4a: jedgar: http://bitbucket.org/xa4a/xapy/src/e3f7e5bbc464/processors/projidea.py#cl-8
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[22:34:13] bobry: товарищи, а в питоновских регулярках можно отменить предыдущую группу как нить? что то не могу в доке найти
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[22:35:09] xa4a: tilarids: магистрский
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[22:35:35] xa4a: bobry: ?
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[22:36:07] xa4a: как так отменить?
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[22:38:54] bobry: я пытаюсь ими профиль юзера в html запарсить, хочется все поля собрать одной регуляркой, но проблема в том, что некоторые поля (например город) могут отсутствовать, если их сгрупировать и обозначить как необязательные ()? то все что после них не парсится
[22:40:13] xa4a: так это
[22:40:34] xa4a: ((?:asdqwe)?)
[22:40:46] bobry: а зачем вторые скобки?
[22:40:58] xa4a: вторые - негруппирующие
[22:41:02] xa4a: тоесть незахваптывающие
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[22:41:14] bobry: ну у меня было (?:)?
[22:41:35] xa4a: порядок скобок и ?
[22:41:46] xa4a: (?: ... ) <- non-capturing parantheses
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[22:42:14] xa4a: только вот э..
[22:42:29] xa4a: если ()? пустое, то на его месте None в результате, афаир
[22:43:05] bobry: окей, щас попробуй твой вараинт, спасибо
вообще конечно кошернее с html каким нить xml парсером работать, но сдается мне что одной регулярочкой побыстрее будет
[22:43:17] xa4a: In [2]: re.search(r'\d(\w)?(\d)', '22').groups()Out[2]: (None, '2')
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[22:51:12] tilarids: xa4a, ну, так, это просто. Добавь нечеткую логику в бакалаврский диплом. Стандартный подход :)
[22:52:31] tilarids: и не надо никаких умных технологий
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[22:53:29] xa4a: я хочу чё-то с machine learning
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[23:01:45] jedgar: xa4a: microblogging, advertising, online, office, mmorpg =)
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[23:10:12] sevenov: Ггг, у всех теперь больная тема?
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[23:13:16] jedgar: а хакеры облажались, такую дыру проморгали
[23:13:39] jedgar: хотя мож щас на .com наверстывают упущенное
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[23:15:01] sevenov: svn co http://google.com/.svn гагага
[23:15:13] sevenov: а, так не получится. Нувыпонели.
[23:15:38] sevenov: в nexuiz никто не хочет погамать?
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[23:20:16] feedbot: Titus Brown is working on a buildbot alternative that's more volunteer-friendly (pony-build) http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9nfgn/titus_brown_is_working_on_a_buildbot_alternative/
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[23:21:46] tilarids: xa4a, ну, тогда флаг в руки. Как чего сделаешь прикольного - опубликовывай
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[23:22:56] xa4a: tilarids: та да.. только сейчас вот чего-то kdebase-startkde не собирается :\
[23:23:10] xa4a: и надо с темой приблизительной определиться до конца месяца
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[23:24:22] tilarids: xa4a, а научрук в этом не помогает?
[23:24:28] tilarids: Сам что хочешь - выбирай?
[23:24:54] xa4a: выбрать научрука тоже, да)
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[23:26:27] tilarids: гм. Ну, можешь сделать полезное, но довольно хлопотное дело - собрать для украинского языка словарь морфем и словоформ. Как это сделать - не знаю, в свободном доступе такого словаря не видел. machine learning вполне приплести можно
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[23:27:51] tilarids: кстати, вопрос всем - кто-нибудь реализовывал нормальный полнотекстовый поиск по украинским текстам?
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[23:30:49] xa4a: для этого, по-хорошему, нужно лингвистов каких-то поднапрячь
[23:30:54] xa4a: в виде "экспертов"
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[23:33:06] denplis: кто-то использует django-twitterauth?
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[23:34:27] sevenov: прям "twitterauth"?
[23:34:35] sevenov: а чем django-openauth не сгодился?
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[23:44:58] denplis: потому что нужна авторизация по твиттеру, а он вроде не использует openid
[23:45:52] Большой Лис: твиттер oauth юзает
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[23:46:55] tilarids: не только, но oauth лучше всех
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[23:51:50] bobry: товарищи, почему во втором случае test2 не матчится http://dumpz.org/12657/
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[23:54:40] xa4a: bobry: т.к. .+ хавает строку до конца
[23:54:42] xa4a: сначала
[23:54:52] sevenov: тьфу, не s/openauth/oauth/
[23:54:53] xa4a: потом парсер находит паттерн (test2)?
[23:54:59] xa4a: пытается его сматчить
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[23:55:06] xa4a: откатывается назад на 5 символов
[23:55:12] xa4a: ну.. сначала на один
[23:55:15] xa4a: потом на два..
[23:55:17] xa4a: потом на 5
[23:55:23] xa4a: видит, что не матчится с test2
[23:55:30] xa4a: потому принимает ? за 0
[23:55:37] xa4a: тоесть всё как надо
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[23:55:51] xa4a: короче ты хочешь .+? вместо .+
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[23:57:15] bobry: хм, что то я туплю) спасибо еще раз xa4a
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