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[01:07:20] lievil: про свни слышали?
[01:07:24] lievil: свн
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[01:07:34] bobry: @habr?
[01:08:03] red-agent: Что слышали?
[01:08:18] lievil: да
[01:08:19] lievil: хабр
[01:09:11] sevenov: привет слоупокам!
[01:09:27] lievil: слоупокам?
[01:09:45] sevenov: http://lurkmore.ru/Slowpoke
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[01:13:43] lievil: sevenov, почему?
[01:13:59] lievil: sevenov, ты оскорбляешь типа?
[01:15:06] sevenov: lievil, нет, типа намек на боян. Таки часов 12 уже прошло.
[01:15:53] red-agent: /me эти 12 часов спал вообще-то
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[01:17:37] sevenov: red-agent, если еще и в ботинки ссышь, то ты кот. Инфа 100%.
[01:18:07] red-agent: Пшел в жопу =(
[01:19:03] lievil: аа
[01:20:25] sevenov: red-agent, обиделся что ли?
[01:20:30] sevenov: :-)
[01:21:17] red-agent: Нэ. Настаящий джигит ни абижаеться.
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[01:23:23] sevenov: red-agent, а тупо отрубает ножом голову.
[01:23:34] red-agent: Верно.
[01:24:17] sevenov: А кто любит грызть ногти на ногах?
[01:25:03] red-agent: Невротики?
[01:25:26] sevenov: ну не знаааю
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[01:28:12] lievil: sevenov, такой баг)
[01:28:15] lievil: хочу сорцы яндекса
[01:28:18] lievil: и рамблера (
[01:28:19] lievil: почитать
[01:28:28] sevenov: lievil, не баг это.
[01:28:36] lievil: в голове
[01:28:40] lievil: баг в голове людей
[01:29:31] red-agent: Не людей.
[01:29:36] lievil: а кого?
[01:29:42] red-agent: Люди не кодят на php и не юзают svn.
[01:29:55] lievil: да ладно
[01:29:59] lievil: а кто это
[01:30:00] lievil: тогда
[01:30:02] red-agent: Нелюди.
[01:30:10] lievil: в болеро?
[01:30:11] red-agent: Грязные животные.
[01:30:14] lievil: рамблере и яндексе?
[01:30:22] lievil: там не только пхп
[01:30:26] lievil: там jsp
[01:30:27] lievil: pl
[01:30:28] lievil: py
[01:30:47] red-agent: При чем тут рамблер и яндекс?
[01:30:50] red-agent: Я про этот "баг"
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[01:55:35] bobry: товарищи, а есть какая нить штука которая бы вещи а ля > заменяла на соответствующие символы?
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[02:08:23] sevenov: bobry, http://github.com/facebook/tornado/blob/master/tornado/escape.py
[02:08:25] sevenov: вот пример
[02:08:47] red-agent: Тонко.
[02:11:25] bobry: sevenov: ty
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[11:29:58] cutwater: доброе всем утро
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[11:32:10] cutwater: вопрос меня интересует, собственно чего хотелось бы. ищу фреймворк или набор библиотек или просто написать уже ручками с нуля, с поддержкой SQLAlchemy, Jinja2, модульный
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[11:33:35] cutwater: вобщем-то в pylons ковырялся, но пока удобного или вообще аналога джанговским applications не обнаружил. может плохо искал. интересует, может кто уже сталкивался с подобными вопросами
[11:34:06] tilarids_: cutwater: пни пиранью
[11:34:43] cutwater: спс. как будет активен пну
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[11:35:05] Typhon: werkzeug
[11:36:13] wonderfulll: пиранья вроде как и пишет что-то подобное http://svarga.piranha.org.ua/
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[11:40:48] cutwater: вот таки об этом я и мечтал :)
[11:41:07] cutwater: надо будет для общего развития свой велосипед попробовать сделать. а потом выкинуть :)
[11:41:40] cutwater: кстати кто что хорошее о FormAlchemy слышал?
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[11:44:44] piranha: cutwater: еще есть glashammer
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[11:45:36] cutwater: piranha, здравствуй. спасибо за ссылку. надо посмотреть
[11:45:48] cutwater: pylons как-то совсем расстроил
[11:46:05] piranha: фефефе
[11:46:06] piranha: ;)
[11:46:37] cutwater: ??
[11:46:41] cutwater: а..
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[11:47:21] cutwater: и еще вопрос, хочу поднять сервер на mercurial с разграничением доступа, кажется уже искал не помню. что-то на подобие gitosis через ssh туннель.
[11:47:46] piranha: mercurial-server
[11:48:06] mishok13: bitbucket
[11:48:20] piranha: bitbucket поднять нельзя ;)
[11:48:26] piranha: он и так не валяется вроде
[11:48:33] cutwater: :)
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[11:49:13] mishok13: так его и не надо подымать
[11:49:16] mishok13: в этом фишка :)
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[11:50:15] piranha: ;)
[11:50:53] nmk: какие-то коммунистические цвета у вашего этого glashammer
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[11:51:47] piranha: ну, это меня не сильно напрягло
[11:51:53] piranha: но он мне не понравился :)
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[11:52:16] cutwater: piranha, чем если не секрет
[11:52:44] piranha: не могу сформулировать внятно ;)
[11:52:46] cutwater: кстати спасибо за finalopts, пока что лучшее из того что видел. надо будет обязательно на практике опробовать.
[11:52:47] piranha: деталями
[11:52:54] piranha: уже opster, гыгы :)
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[11:53:06] cutwater: piranha, ясно. эстетические предпочтения. знакомо.
[11:53:16] piranha: он не такой, как джанга. Ну т.е. я б хотел django done right, а у него другой подход
[11:53:18] piranha: вот и всë
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[12:01:00] tilarids_: piranha: кстати, про opster
[12:01:04] tilarids_: у меня для тебя бага :)
[12:01:12] piranha: давай :)
[12:01:14] tilarids_: (или я что-то неправильно заюзал)
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[12:03:43] tilarids_: piranha: http://www.dumpz.org/12663/
[12:03:47] tilarids_: вот, в виде теста сразу
[12:04:32] tilarids_: в общем, он без параметров функцию не вызывает. Отака фигня, малята
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[12:05:51] piranha: гммм
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[12:06:23] tilarids_: поймал?
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[12:06:43] tilarids_: самое интересное, что у меня вот он только внутри теста повторяется :)
[12:06:48] piranha: щас, сек
[12:06:48] piranha: грузицо
[12:06:49] piranha: в плане?
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[12:07:08] tilarids_: а вот так - если из шелла вызывать функцию без параметров, всё ок
[12:07:22] tilarids_: и если в тесте указывать параметры, то всё ок
[12:07:32] tilarids_: а если в тесте без параметров - выдает usage
[12:07:39] piranha: ааа, а просто так - не вызывается?
[12:07:44] piranha: т.е. в смысле из питона не вызывается, да?
[12:07:54] piranha: факинсчид, прикольно
[12:08:03] piranha: щас попробую зафиксить :)
[12:08:50] piranha: ммм
[12:08:58] piranha: tilarids_: а у nose могут быть комманд-лайновые тесты?
[12:09:04] tilarids_: piranha: в смысле?
[12:09:17] piranha: ну не юнит-тесты, а функционалные...
[12:09:25] tilarids_: да какие хочешь
[12:09:26] piranha: я думаю, как бы вот все тесты на nose переделать %)
[12:09:32] tilarids_: nose - запускалка кода
[12:09:39] tilarids_: переделывай
[12:09:49] piranha: ага
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[12:10:06] piranha: piranha@gto ~/dev/misc/opster> nosetests -s
error: option -s not recognized

[12:10:07] tilarids_: nose банально ищёт всё, что похоже на тесты и запускает их, проверяя, не было ли ассертов или ошибок
[12:10:08] piranha: втф?
[12:10:32] tilarids_: piranha: это у тебя что за nose? Можешь без -s, но тогда ты usage не увидишь
[12:10:38] tilarids_: он stdout перехыватит
[12:10:41] piranha: та уже вижу
[12:10:49] piranha: дык опция работает
[12:10:51] piranha: но ругается %)
[12:11:02] piranha: nosetests version 0.10.4

[12:11:04] piranha: бля
[12:11:10] piranha: почему 0.10, а не 0.11? :\
[12:11:20] piranha: а, оно уже стояло :)
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[12:14:13] piranha: хм
[12:14:30] piranha: tilarids_: я знаю, в чëм трабла, но тупо не могу сгенерировать идею, как же быть :)
[12:14:43] piranha: трабла в том, что оно проверяет - если нету аргументов, значит надо юзать sys.argv
[12:14:53] piranha: а sys.argv пуст - значит надо показать хелп?
[12:14:56] piranha: хотя не, знач надо работать :)
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[12:15:16] piranha: ааабля!
[12:15:33] piranha: tilarids_: '-s' - это ругань от опстера на то, что опции нету, оно ж туда лезет :)
[12:15:42] piranha: fucking shid ;-)
[12:15:46] tilarids_: ууу
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[12:15:51] tilarids_: это очень жестоко
[12:15:53] piranha: ага
[12:16:31] piranha: t2.main(argv=[])

[12:16:34] piranha: вот такое сработает, конечно
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[12:16:41] piranha: но это несколько уродливо... :\
[12:16:52] piranha: tilarids_: либо так, либо требовать argv в любом случае чтоб приезжали...
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[12:17:58] tilarids_: нафига он вообще лезет в sys.argv, когда нет аргументов?
[12:18:47] tilarids_: чтобы можно было main вызывать напрямую?
[12:18:48] piranha: tilarids_: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/opster/file/tip/test_opts.py#l34
[12:18:52] piranha: вот для этого
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[12:20:31] tilarids_: 32 if __name__ == '__main__':
33 #main()
34 another()

Ну, так а почему именно в этой строчке не быть explicit?
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[12:20:56] tilarids_: а то у тебя как-то неявно и недокументировано это использование argv.
[12:20:57] piranha: ну вот собсна об этом и я размышляю
[12:21:02] piranha: ага
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[12:21:57] piranha: ахаха, пикаса сдохла
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[12:22:06] piranha: не могу найти вменяемый менеджер фоток
[12:22:13] piranha: видать, буду менеджить руками %)
[12:23:46] tilarids_: piranha: solang не пробовал?
[12:24:06] piranha: это ж линуховое?
[12:24:13] tilarids_: да
[12:24:19] piranha: не, куда ж я его )
[12:24:34] tilarids_: может, попробуешь и мне расскажешь? А то пикаса - лучшее, что есть, но всё равно не торт
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[12:24:40] piranha: мне понравился лайтрум, но он ориентирован на монстров фотографии
[12:24:45] piranha: в смысле на то, что ты постоянно этим занимаешься
[12:24:48] tilarids_: piranha: а в чем проблема? Не можешь собрать под мак?
[12:24:50] piranha: а я раз в полгода...
[12:24:54] piranha: нет желания даже ;)
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[12:24:57] tilarids_: а
[12:25:03] piranha: и мне не нужен такой адский интерфейс...
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[12:25:15] piranha: а так лайтрум вполне :)
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[12:25:33] tilarids_: это я такой извращенец, что сижу сейчас компилю gcc под винду, чтобы в моем GNU/Windows eix заработал... :)
[12:25:34] piranha: если б iphoto чуть получше навигацию и он бы перестал хранить фотки по сто раз одновременно, то это было бы то, что надо )
[12:25:39] piranha: ;-))))
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[12:25:43] piranha: не
[12:25:50] piranha: под винду и так многое надо :)
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[15:53:00] wonderfulll: дедики на http://www.hetzner.de кто-нибуть из присутствующих юзает?
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