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[15:54:14] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[16:00:11] Rodegast: Хм... похоже что оно, сегодня вечером попробую. А про Гном никто не в курсе?
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[16:00:50] xa4a: я думаю, если в запросе к гуглу заменить kde на gnome, то тоже оно будет
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[16:01:54] mishok13: почему вопрос, к питону отношения не имеющий, задается на канале pythonua?
[16:02:11] xa4a: это традиция
[16:02:46] Rodegast: Как не имеет? У меня программа на питоне написана!
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[16:04:00] mishok13: гаджим, да?
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[16:06:28] Rodegast: Не фронтэндим : )
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[17:51:59] mishok13: http://chatlogs.jabber.ru/emacs@conference.jabber.ru/2009/09/29.html
[17:52:05] mishok13: в конец прокрутите :)
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[17:53:01] mishok13: http://chatlogs.jabber.ru/emacs@conference.jabber.ru/2009/09/29.html#18:18:07.708250 <-- ссылка чуть удобнее
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[17:54:40] red-agent: mishok13, And?
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[17:55:22] mishok13: (and nothing)
[17:55:30] red-agent: 8\
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[17:55:43] mishok13: сейчас и к нам пожалуют флудботы, мне кажется
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[17:56:38] котопес: всем бодрого вечера
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[17:57:16] котопес: из pickle контейнера файл как вытаскивать проще всего?
[17:58:09] tilarids: mishok13: а разве в pythonua по дефолту есть голос?
[17:58:29] mishok13: так там nick change flood
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[17:59:17] mishok13: котопес, pickle.load ?
[17:59:40] tilarids: mishok13: ну, так забанить чувака, который получил голос - и всё
[17:59:58] mishok13: tilarids, м?
[18:00:07] mishok13: там зашло 50 ботов и они просто меняли ники
[18:00:11] mishok13: постоянно
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[18:00:26] mishok13: тут только жаловаться в администрацию
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[18:00:56] tilarids: mishok13: ну, так а что, когда у бота нет голоса изменения его ника всё равно показываются?
[18:01:01] tilarids: Глупо как-то...
[18:01:06] tilarids: надо патчить gajim
[18:01:11] tilarids: тьфу
[18:01:23] tilarids: psi
[18:01:51] tilarids: надо что-то делать с разнообразием клиентов
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[18:02:52] mishok13: mcabber, tkabber, gtalk, miranda, qutim, jabber.el, pidgin, kopete
[18:03:05] mishok13: и еще где-то с 30 :)
[18:03:33] tilarids: ну, так если каждый пользователь напишет по патчу, все и пофиксятся
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[18:06:46] red-agent: Примитивное решение.
[18:06:51] red-agent: Патчить нужно сервер.
[18:06:58] red-agent: Зрить в корень проблемы.
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[18:07:10] red-agent: И abuse xep это по-моему учитывает.
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[18:38:39] indieman: привет, подскажите пожалуйста как работать с json.
import json
f = open('generated.db', 'r')
s = json.dumps(f.read())
как бы вот щас ключи все вывести, допустим в виде дерева?
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[18:41:00] wiz: казалось бы, при чём тут json?
[18:41:16] wiz: from pprint import pprint - если просто вывести (;
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[18:42:03] indieman: эм... ну мне надо чтобы json формат распознался.
[18:42:11] indieman: щас и получается, что просто выводит.
[18:42:56] Typhon: есть мнение, что не читал http://docs.python.org/library/json.html
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[18:43:07] red-agent: s = json.dumps(f.read())
[18:43:21] red-agent: indieman, Ну и что ты хотел этим сказать?
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[18:44:02] indieman: да я не пойму что надо делать вообще) мне нужен какой-то объект. с которым я буду работать. как раз по указанной ссылке я нашел, что надо что-то вот такое с ним сделать.
[18:44:26] Typhon: где там такое?
[18:44:34] indieman: в данный момент я хочу просто как-то структурировать информацию, которая лежит в формате json.
[18:44:55] indieman: json.dumps(['foo', {'bar': ('baz', None, 1.0, 2)}])
[18:44:59] indieman: эм..
[18:45:11] red-agent: dumpz -- вообще-то "деконструирует".
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[18:45:14] Typhon: и как это соотносится с твоей задачей?
[18:45:20] red-agent: А если быть точным -- сериализирует.
[18:45:34] red-agent: Тебе что нужно, сериализировать или десериализоровать?
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[18:45:50] indieman: сначала я посмотрю в гугле что значат два этих слова )
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[18:46:04] red-agent: facepalm
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[18:46:44] indieman: эм... ну вроде десериализировать. только где уж тут биты то) вроде все текстовое.
[18:47:23] red-agent: json.loads('blahblah')
[18:47:30] red-agent: ну или load, если у тебя фд.
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[18:51:07] indieman: эм.. а что потом с этим делать можно. я ничего не понимаю что-то
[18:51:29] wiz: /me joins red-agent in facepalm
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[18:52:44] Typhon: dump : python ds -> json; load : json -> pytho ds
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[18:53:17] red-agent: wiz, QIP Infium 9024; Windows Vista
[18:53:26] red-agent: Диагноз установлен.
[18:53:48] indieman: ой ппц ребята)
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[18:53:59] wiz: нет, indieman. это не ребята ппц.
[18:54:23] wiz: запусти шелл и погоняй функции туда-сюда
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[18:55:02] indieman: я задал нормальный вопрос. я не могу разобраться в гайде. спросил пример. а тут все такие о*уенные, что могут написать про диагноз)
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[18:55:22] wiz: да, мы охуенные
[18:55:57] wiz: примеры тебе дали, можно и потроллить (=
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[18:57:30] indieman: не. это же жесть. я не думаю, что нормальный вменяемый взрослый человек может так написать)
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[18:57:46] wiz: вот и не думай над этим.
[18:57:52] wiz: думай лучше над кодом своим
[18:57:58] wiz: а то ты над ним ещё не думал походу
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[18:58:35] indieman: ну куда уж тут. я уж боюсь думать. пока не поставлю генту и не напишу свой джаббер на чистом си без плюсов.
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[18:58:40] indieman: боюсь уж к питону подходить.
[18:58:58] wiz: кончай флудить, иди доки кури.
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[18:59:10] wiz: я серьёзно
[18:59:11] Typhon: indieman, не позорился бы :)
[18:59:45] indieman: так, ну и чем же я опозорился?)
[18:59:59] indieman: вистой?) или тем что спросил?)
[19:00:19] red-agent: Ну, как минимум тем, что пытался проделать операцию противоположную от той, что ты хочешь.
[19:00:23] Typhon: тем что после того, как тебе на глупости указали, херню несешь
[19:00:27] red-agent: При том, что имя dumps говорит само за себя.
[19:00:56] red-agent: Но выглядело довольно смешно, когда ты вместо того, что бы десериализировать данные из файла -- прочел их и заново сериализировал как строку...
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[19:01:45] indieman: черт, это действительно очень хорошая шутка) расскажи ее еще раз) млин. ладно. все. я накосячил. прекрасно понимаю. только вот про диагноз... такие слова бесят.
[19:02:03] wiz: диагноз диагноз диагноз диагноз диагноз
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[19:02:20] indieman: :) еще напиши
[19:02:25] wiz: диагноз диагноз диагноз диагноз диагноз
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[19:15:38] Ляпатяпа: postgresql ругается после обновления в арче
FATAL: unrecognized configuration parameter "max_fsm_pages"
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[19:17:19] Ляпатяпа: root@shaitan /u/s/postgresql# grep max_fsm_pages *
ничего не выводит
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[19:21:36] indieman: а то, что я так пытаюсь писать
f = open('1.db', 'r')
s = json.load(f)
[19:21:40] indieman: это тоже диагноз???
[19:21:43] indieman is now http://www.dummies.com/store/product/Songwriting-For-Dummies.productCd-0764554042.html
[19:22:22] indieman: wiz: диагноз?
[19:22:54] wiz: диагноз то, что ты спрашиваешь диагноз
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[19:23:05] wiz: а на код сам смотри, то это, что тебе надо или не то.
[19:23:33] indieman: у меня не работает. ругается на файл
[19:23:36] erraen is now online
[19:23:39] indieman: а если как строку вставить. то все ок.
[19:23:56] wiz: ну ты читай чтоль что там тебе пишут
[19:24:12] Ляпатяпа: 1.db - это точно json?
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[19:24:49] wiz: Ляпатяпа, не торопись
[19:25:15] Ляпатяпа: да хули не торопись
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[19:25:21] Ляпатяпа: я тут в шоке с постгреса
[19:25:31] Ляпатяпа: вырубился просто так
[19:25:35] Ляпатяпа: и не запускается
[19:25:50] Ляпатяпа: вообще не понимаю что ему не нравится
[19:26:09] indieman: пля. кодировка не юникодная была. говорил, что не json :0
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[19:29:40] Ляпатяпа: FATAL: database files are incompatible with server
DETAIL: The data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 8.3, which is not compatible with this version 8.4.1.
[19:30:50] Большой Лис: ухты
[19:30:52] Большой Лис: =]
[19:31:11] Ляпатяпа: щас походу ебля будет
[19:31:19] Ляпатяпа: долбаный арч
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[19:31:28] Ляпатяпа: и постгрес
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[19:32:13] Typhon: постгрес нормально обновлялся с 8.3 на 8.4
[19:32:49] cutwater: Ляпатяпа, О_о нигани на арч
[19:32:54] cutwater: я нормально обновлялся последний раз
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[19:41:52] Ляпатяпа: уф, воткнул старый постгрес из кеша
[19:41:59] Ляпатяпа: арч всё-таки рулит
[19:42:31] Ляпатяпа: кто-нибудь запускал джанго под торнадо?
[19:42:40] wiz: анахуа?
[19:42:41] Ляпатяпа: я вот на локалхосте запустил, таки работает
[19:42:49] Typhon: гугли
[19:42:51] Ляпатяпа: у меня с памятью рамс на впс
[19:42:54] Большой Лис: торнадо это навроде как альтернативной джанги
[19:42:55] Typhon: django + tornado
[19:42:57] Typhon: кто-то писал
[19:43:06] Typhon: по-моему фидбот ссылку даже кидал тут
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[19:43:07] Ляпатяпа: да я запустил
[19:43:14] Ляпатяпа: по инструкции
[19:43:23] Ляпатяпа: если бы не постгрес - с полпинка
[19:43:31] Ляпатяпа: а вот как он в работе...
[19:43:36] wiz: а cherrypy сервер никак?
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[19:44:03] Ляпатяпа: а хз, я много чего хочу запустить, и коген, и черрипай
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[19:47:45] Муркт: http://surf-ru.livejournal.com/110605.html
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[20:01:51] Ляпатяпа: Twisted vs. Tornado: You're Both Idiots
[20:01:56] Ляпатяпа: хорошее название для статьи
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[20:04:13] Ляпатяпа: tornado-veb-freimvork-realnogo-vremeni
[20:04:31] wiz: риальни фреймворк пыщпыщ
[20:04:45] wiz: каким боком там RT?
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[20:24:21] sevenov: Ляпатяпа: о_О
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[20:24:57] sevenov: ёптить, люди, вы чего, ебанулись? django + асинхронный сервер о__О
[20:25:00] sevenov: толку-то?
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[20:31:06] indieman: а можно как-нибудь узнать поконкретнее где ошибка в json файле, когда питон не может десериализировать?
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[20:32:04] sevenov: indieman: посмотреть в него?
[20:32:10] sevenov: indieman: выложи куда нибудь
[20:32:26] indieman: да он большой очень чтобы руками смотреть.
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[20:34:13] indieman: http://indieman.ru/generated.db
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[20:34:28] indieman: sevenov: я не могу понять, может я просто кодировку не правильную пишу.
[20:34:41] Typhon: да он вроде пишет линию и символ
[20:34:50] Typhon: ValueError: Expecting object: line 3 column 6 (char 27) например
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[20:37:40] indieman: Typhon: млин. да. спасибо. я каждый раз этого стека пугаюсь. никак не привыкну. что он выдает все обычно)
[20:37:51] sevenov: indieman: все нормально, проверил.
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[20:38:09] Typhon: x = urllib2.urlopen("http://indieman.ru/generated.db")
[20:38:11] sevenov:
In [5]: type(simplejson.loads(json_data))
Out[5]: <type 'list'>
[20:38:14] Typhon: d = json.load(x)
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[20:38:17] Typhon: угу, все ое
[20:38:18] Typhon: ок
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[20:39:47] Александp: [20:47:04] Муркт: http://surf-ru.livejournal.com/110605.html
ответ знаешь?
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[20:41:44] wiz: sevenov, так у тебя небось уютненький UTF8 по дефолту, а у человека 1251, виста и квип (=
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[20:42:06] indieman: опять))
[20:42:54] wiz: это карма
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[20:43:11] indieman: что карма?)
я говорю доябы*шься опять)
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[20:43:34] indieman: карма со временем пользования какой-то вещи только улучшается
[20:43:41] wiz: ЧСВ зашкаливает у кого-то опять
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[20:43:50] wiz: у тебя локаль какая в питоне дефолтная?
[20:43:59] indieman: utf
[20:44:14] wiz: как определил?
[20:44:22] indieman: # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
[20:44:35] wiz: это кодировка файла
[20:44:42] wiz: а не дефолтная кодировка для потоков
[20:44:48] indieman: эм..
[20:44:53] wiz: import sys
sys.getdefaultencoding()
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[20:45:36] indieman: ascii
[20:45:46] wiz: вооот
[20:46:01] Typhon: wiz, у меня виста, ascii и все ок ;)
[20:46:26] wiz: ну значит дело в квипе (8
[20:46:36] Typhon: :D
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[20:47:17] indieman: wiz: это точнО) но вот раскажи мне что поставить?) вот когда-то я пользовался только мирандой и глумился над киповцами)
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[20:51:03] indieman: Typhon: а почему list получается? разве не dict должен быть?
[20:51:21] Typhon: список словарей там
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[20:51:41] indieman: ааа... так вот почему я тут вишу уже хрен знает сколько времени.
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[20:51:51] Typhon: см. файл
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[20:53:46] indieman: в смысле?) ну я понял... я просто ожидал словаря и думал, что он мне просто строку выводит. а оказалось, что список словарей.
[20:53:52] Муркт: Александp: знаю.
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[21:04:41] indieman: а в json может быть сколько угодно вложенных объектов? или как
[21:05:36] jedgar: Муркт: скажи ответ плз (в приват)
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[21:08:24] Typhon: решил :)
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[21:12:38] Муркт: Ога.
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[21:20:33] jedgar: имхо условия задачи всятаки нельзя считать полностью корректными
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[21:21:58] Александp: Муркт, факториал? :-)
[21:22:44] jedgar: хотя не, можно
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[21:24:30] Муркт: Александp: ну, зачем палишь ответ
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[21:25:15] Typhon: зачем палишь, что Александр ответ палит? :)
[21:25:19] Александp: Муркт, да кому он нужен, здесь уже все спят :-)
[21:26:15] Муркт: Typhon: да какая разница. Когда видишь подсказку - то сразу понимаешь
[21:26:24] Typhon: ну это да :)
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[21:36:16] indieman: Typhon: могут быть словари вложенные в json?
[21:36:30] Typhon: oO
[21:36:50] indieman: ну в смысле в json вложенные объекты)
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[21:37:48] Typhon: just try it
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[21:38:32] indieman: да я никак не найду что-то в документации описания этого момента, не знает никто?
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[21:53:45] Александp: indieman, попробуй экспериментальным путём, или ты свою либу пишешь?
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[21:54:49] indieman: да вроде может быть вложено)
[21:54:52] indieman: спс)
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[22:44:04] sevenov: wiz: эээ, а существует что-то отличное от utf8? o_O
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[22:54:54] joinordie: а подскажите, есть ли какойнить конвертор, скрипт (50 кб руками долго править) набран в виндовом редакторе и там табуляция другая, короче скрипт не работает...
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[22:56:52] sevenov: а подскажите, есть ли какойнить конвертор, вопрос набран неправильно и вообще слова перепутаны местави, короче вопрос непонятный...
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[22:59:12] joinordie: мда, согласен
нужен конвертор который переделает скрипт набраный в виндовом редакторе в нормальный вид, там табуляция другая и из-за этого не работает.
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[22:59:43] sevenov: joinordie: дык возьми да замени то, что неправильно ;)
[23:00:13] joinordie: 5 тысяч строк руками долго. и парусь в местах где есть цыклы и условия
[23:02:41] jedgar: напиши еще 0.05т к этим 5т, которые будут конвертировать эти 5т :)
[23:03:05] joinordie: чувствую придется
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[23:07:50] Александp: а поиск и замену в текстовых редакторах отменили?
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[23:09:21] Typhon: 4 пробела, кстати, везде одинаковые, хоть в виндовом, хоть в невиндовом
[23:11:01] sevenov: joinordie: правка -> заменить.
[23:11:19] joinordie: там 8
[23:12:03] joinordie: правка-заменить? ща попробуем
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