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[02:19:43] dicos: Доброе утро. Где находится каталог шаблонов админки? На этом пункте у меня ступор http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/tutorial02/#customize-the-admin-look-and-feel
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[02:22:04] jedgar: dicos: в смысле не можешь найти каталог django/contrib/admin/templates ?
[02:22:16] dicos: да
[02:22:57] jedgar: у меня на винде C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\django\contrib\admin\templates\admin\base.html
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[02:23:58] dicos: Спасибо. Пользуюсь линуксом, в свое время с правами перемудрил, вот и от своего имени не вижу.
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[02:25:25] dicos: Можно ли в TEMPLATE_DIRS указывать не абсолютные а относительные пути?
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[02:35:55] dicos: Какая структура каталогов у стандартного проекта django? Как я понял это
имя_проекта/
шаблоны/
исполняемые_файлы/
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[02:38:21] indieman: кто-нибудь пользовался twill?
[02:38:28] indieman: b = get_browser()
link = "http://ya.ru"
b.go(link)
links = b.showlinks()
[02:38:35] indieman: доках написано, что в links должен быть список линков, а что-то None выводится, если печатать
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[07:20:11] feedbot: Why Numpy instead of Python lists? http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9qud7/why_numpy_instead_of_python_lists/
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Джанга. Мылы не доходят на mail.ru. Настроил отправку через gmail smtp. Вроде теперь всё доходит, но не подставляется правильный мыл во from поле. Остаётся реальный фром гмыл-акка.

Отправляются обычно, через django.core.mail.send_mail. Кто-то уже сталкивался?
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[09:41:11] лорд Морфий: Imbolc: по-моему джанга тут не причем
[09:42:23] Imbolc: Тоже кажется, что это антиспам фишка гмыла. Но мало ли :)
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[09:45:44] Lolka: у меня прекрасно ходит почта на гмыло как с send_mail так и с mail_admins
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[09:46:05] лорд Морфий: Lolka: нужно чтобы данный адрес был зареген на гмыле
[09:46:10] лорд Морфий: и аутентификация прошла
[09:46:15] sevenov: а у меня голуби всегда долетают до цели.
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[09:46:24] sevenov: и отправитель неизвестен.
[09:47:01] Imbolc: Lolka, не на гмыло нужно, а с гмыла :)
[09:47:20] Lolka: я понял :)
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[09:48:37] Imbolc: sevenov: продолжай же, не стесняйся :)
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[09:48:57] sevenov: Imbolc: а что продолжать? Я все сказал.
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[09:49:24] Imbolc: sevenov: Не сказал как :)
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[09:50:03] Imbolc: У меня сколько помню были проблемы с антиспамом мэйл.ру. Куда-о там писал постоянно о разбане ипа.
[09:50:20] sevenov: Imbolc: дык привязываешь записку к лапке голубя, показываешь ему на гуглокартах куда лететь. Делов то.
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[09:52:42] лорд Морфий: :)
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[09:57:27] Imbolc: Отвлекаясь от зоофилии перефразирую вопрос. Джанга. Отправка мыл настроена с гмыла. Как в нужном месте отправить с локального смтп?
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[09:58:52] Lolka: это как? часть с гмыла, часть не с гмыла?
[09:59:04] Lolka: переписать send_mail для второго случая, как еще, хм :)
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[11:05:46] wonderfulll: как в django-sorl выводить изображение в шаблоне? {{ image.extra_thumbnails_tag.small }} и {{ image.thumbnail_tag }} отказываются работать
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[11:24:35] wonderfulll: вопрос снимается тупо забыл название поля прописать )
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[12:22:43] Darth Лис: оказываться, и pidgin можно заставить выдавать роли
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[12:23:41] xa4a: а копыто?
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[12:24:05] Darth Лис: хз, не юзал ни разу
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[12:24:14] Darth Лис: может так же как и pidign?
[12:24:18] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: всем привет
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[12:24:23] xa4a: привет
[12:24:23] Darth Лис: в pidgin-е надо комманду просто писать
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[12:24:30] xa4a: какую?
[12:24:32] Darth Лис: /role
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[12:24:47] xa4a: /role silent_bob visitor
[12:24:49] xa4a: гм
[12:24:55] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: меня зовут Роман, HR компании Ciklum, Киев
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[12:25:12] Darth Лис: xa4a: /role <moderator|participant|visitor|none> [nick1] [nick2] ...: Get the users with an role or set users' role with the room.
[12:25:22] xa4a: /role visitor silent_bob
[12:25:24] xa4a: нэ
[12:25:37] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: приглашаю всех на IT JAM http://it-jam.ciklum.net
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[12:25:58] red-agent: xa4a, Да бля, не ужели не понятно, что в копыте нету такой команды с первого раза? :)
[12:26:09] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: хочу узнать, возможно кому-нибудь ббыло бы инетерсно выступить у нас в роли спикера
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[12:26:43] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: на какую-нибудь инетресную тему из Python area
[12:26:47] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ???
[12:26:50] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: :)
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[12:27:11] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: люди, отзывайтесь!!!
[12:27:18] xa4a: думаю, можно в топик повесить
[12:27:25] xa4a: желающие тут время от времени пробегают
[12:27:27] Darth Лис: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: спокойно, люди обдумывают
[12:27:35] xa4a: а на данный момент никаких тем пока нет?
[12:27:56] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: по пайтону некоторые думают
[12:28:03] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: есть уже по перлу и по руби
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[12:28:29] mishok13: кахэм
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[12:28:49] mishok13: всё, я колосова баню
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[12:28:56] mishok13: возражения есть?
[12:29:05] xa4a: nope
[12:29:09] Муркт: не
[12:29:30] Darth Лис: не забудь потом отбанить назад
[12:29:47] mishok13: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com, а что на этом ITJam делать-то?
[12:30:01] mishok13: какая там аудитория?
[12:30:20] mishok13: Darth Лис, я подумаю :)
[12:30:36] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: большой knowledge sharing event в формате баркемп
[12:30:36] Муркт: mishok13: там хеллоуин будет, судя по дате
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[12:30:45] Typhon: бля
[12:30:47] Муркт: в конце все нажруться и будут балагурить всю ночь =))
[12:30:49] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: аудитория - программеры отовсюду
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[12:30:54] Typhon: knowledge sharing event в формате баркемпknowledge sharing event в формате баркемп
[12:30:55] Муркт: *нажрутся
[12:30:58] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ну там афтапати будет)
[12:31:03] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: после всего
[12:31:05] Муркт: во-во, я ж о чём
[12:31:09] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: на сайте ж написано что и как)
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[12:31:34] Муркт: # Dynamic Programming Languages (Ruby on Rails, Python, Perl)
[12:31:37] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: несколько направлений по инетресным и развивающимся технологиям
[12:31:40] Муркт: нет такого языка
[12:31:49] Darth Лис: гг
[12:31:57] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: усть просто Руби
[12:32:01] Typhon: Муркт: иди и share свой knowledge там
[12:32:02] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: есть
[12:32:03] Typhon: :)
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[12:32:31] mishok13: и сколько людей там будет?
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[12:32:39] red-agent: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com, Как-то не этично лепить веб-фреймворк в список языков.
[12:32:51] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: приглашаем желающих выступить и поделиться своими "best practices"
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[12:32:56] Муркт: Typhon: мне нечего им рассказать. Если у меня что-то интересное есть, оно слишком узкоспецифично
[12:33:02] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: людей - человек на 400
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[12:33:13] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: исправим
[12:33:14] mishok13: серьезно, поправьте RoR на Ruby
[12:33:24] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ок, сейчас поменяем
[12:33:29] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: спс
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[12:33:55] red-agent: 400 человек - это фактические данные или расчетные?
[12:33:55] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: так что передавайте дальше инфу
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[12:34:00] mishok13: я подумаю
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[12:34:12] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ну уже порядка 150 зарегистрированных
[12:34:20] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: и это при том, что наполнения тем немного
[12:34:22] Муркт: mishok13: про фибры всякие подумаешь? или про что?
[12:34:24] red-agent: Ясно.
[12:34:37] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: сейчас как раз собираем инфу по спикерам
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[12:34:43] mishok13: Муркт, расскажу про TEH DRAMA твистедоебов :)
[12:34:44] Typhon: mishok13 или о бложеке
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[12:34:48] mishok13: ахххаа
[12:34:51] Муркт: mishok13: :D
[12:35:07] mishok13: Typhon, Муркт, Я ЕГО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ПОЧИНЮ ДА
[12:35:09] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: сайт апдейтится постоянно и в разделе с презентациями появляются новые лица и темы
[12:35:12] Муркт: mishok13: кстати, не подкинешь сейчас пару самый интересных ссылочек по поводу?
[12:35:13] xa4a: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: сайт не логинится)
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[12:35:32] mishok13: Муркт, по поводу торнадо vs твистед?
[12:35:34] PC is now away
[12:35:37] Муркт: ага
[12:35:37] xa4a: а, не. логинится. но ошибку пишет
[12:35:39] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: щас посмотрим
[12:35:41] erraen is now online
[12:35:47] xa4a: пишет ошибку, но логинится
[12:35:54] mishok13: я тебе советую на реддите поискать, я в закладки не добавлял
[12:36:00] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: если кто хочет выступить - пишите в личку, обсудим
[12:36:04] mishok13: на planet python проскакивало
[12:36:07] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: чем скорее - тем лучше :-)
[12:36:12] indieman is now я - перпендикуляр!!!
[12:36:13] indieman is now я - перпендикуляр!!!
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[12:36:42] mishok13: ну, glyph.twistedmatrix.com <-- dramaсборник
[12:36:51] Муркт: пасиба
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[12:37:06] mishok13: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com, OpenStreetMap и Python в качестве темы будут интересны?
[12:37:25] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ну я не программер, так сразу не скажу
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[12:37:29] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: :-)
[12:37:34] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: думаю да, мы принимаем все темы
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[12:37:38] xa4a: mishok13: да
[12:37:52] Муркт: mishok13: учитывая тему первого доклада по dynampic PL, то очень
[12:38:31] mishok13: Муркт, http://it-jam.ciklum.net/index.php/component/content/article/15 ?
[12:38:44] Муркт: йеах
[12:38:52] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com is now IT Jam 2009 is coming!!!!! http://it-jam.ciklum.net
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[12:39:17] mishok13: Светлова туда со Щетининым бы
[12:39:19] mishok13: :)
[12:39:22] Муркт: зачем?
[12:39:32] Муркт: у большинства аудитории мозг вытечет из ушей
[12:39:43] mishok13: вот именно с этой целью
[12:39:45] Typhon: а Светлов в америку уехал?
[12:39:50] mishok13: вроде как
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[12:40:04] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: :-)
[12:40:04] Муркт: ничего, там и одного Щетинина хватит
[12:40:31] xa4a: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: за выступления призы разыгрываться будут?
[12:40:35] indieman is now я - перпендикуляр!!!
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[12:40:53] xa4a: So, here it goes, our super mega special prize – a week-end trip to Denmark found its 1st place winners (Asp.Net – Ihor Morozov, Java – Denys Yermakov, C# - Timur Karanda and QA – Shushana Tamrazova). со страници о IT Jam 2008
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[12:41:16] Typhon: mishok13: а ты с svg работаешь в OSM или это не твоя задача?
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[12:41:32] mishok13: с svg я работаю в CloudMade
[12:41:39] mishok13: а что?
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[12:42:10] Typhon: какие-то библиотеки используешь для генерации ( я правильно понимаю, что генеришь) или все так делаешь?
[12:42:17] mishok13: в OSM есть набор скриптов (XSLT + perl) которые генерят карты в svg потом конвертят их в png потом режут на тайлики
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[12:42:57] mishok13: Typhon, пришлось написать свой велосипед, пушо mapnik, точнее, cairo обрезает всю мета информацию при генерации svg
[12:43:06] Муркт: ужоснафег
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[12:43:37] Typhon: а велосипед как, закрытый открытый? :)
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[12:44:21] mishok13: закрытый
[12:44:27] mishok13: потому и велосипед
[12:45:05] Typhon: хотя, думаю, мне cairo подойдет
[12:45:07] mishok13: *если* всё будет идти по плану, то я прикручу этот велосипед к mapnik'у
[12:45:19] Typhon: :) удачи
[12:45:29] mishok13: если тебя только генерация интересует, то тогда librsvg даже проще будет
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[12:45:49] Typhon: спасибо
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[12:56:31] indieman: подскажите пожалуйста как в mechanize задать юзер агент
[12:57:27] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com is now IT Jam 2009 is coming!!!!! http://it-jam.ciklum.net
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[12:58:42] xa4a: indieman: http://api.plone.org/Plone/2.5.3/private/PasswordResetTool/private/mechanize._useragent.UserAgent-class.html
[12:58:47] xa4a: >>> ua.addheaders = [ ... ("User-agent", "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible)"),
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[12:59:05] xa4a: гоогле же..
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[13:08:27] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com is now IT Jam 2009 is coming!!!!! http://it-jam.ciklum.net
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[13:11:06] indieman: спс)
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[14:04:42] mishok13: /me slaps romka.shevchenko_gmail.com
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[14:05:46] xa4a: кстати, никому не нужен студент, кодить почти за еду, кроме джанги?
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[14:08:03] xa4a: или не кодить, а ваще
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[14:08:15] xa4a: а то чо-то из коллекторской конторы не ответили 8)
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[14:13:32] xa4a: софтим снова пистонистов набирает в майдеко.
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[14:13:57] xa4a: >на правах анализа рынка труда околопитонистического<
[14:14:38] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: я здесь
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[14:15:46] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
[14:16:27] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: кто спрашивал про призы - их не будет. в прошлом году были, но сейчас изменился формат ивента
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[14:25:24] mishok13: я тебе в личку вопрос задал
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[14:25:59] mishok13: xa4a, майдеко это такой своебразный котёл питонистов, да?
[14:26:27] xa4a: ну они то набирают, то сливают, то сами уходят от них
[14:26:31] xa4a: сейчас вот снова набирают
[14:26:31] mishok13: :)
[14:26:43] mishok13: подзаработать у них, что-ли
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[14:31:15] mishok13: странно
[14:31:18] mishok13: задам тут тогда
[14:31:23] mishok13: что надо для того чтобы зарегистрировать презентацию и какой язык предпочтителен для презентации?
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[14:31:37] mishok13: бляяя
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[14:36:11] xa4a: пример колосова не был показательным
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[14:48:26] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: у кого есть вопросы по IT Jam
[14:48:30] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ?
[14:48:33] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: пишите
[14:48:50] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ищу спикеров!!!!
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[14:48:59] red-agent: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com, Успокойся.
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[14:49:19] red-agent: Если у кого-то будут вопросы - я думаю они тебе напишут и без твоих напоминай.
[14:49:21] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: :-)
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[14:49:36] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ну так новые люди заходят же
[14:49:46] red-agent: Они умеют читать топик.
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[15:46:06] xa4a: никто в Lohika не сидел?
[15:46:34] Муркт: а в сизо?
[15:47:06] mishok13: ходил к ним на собеседование
[15:47:09] mishok13: а шо?
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[15:47:18] mishok13: в одессу приглашают?
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[15:47:27] xa4a: в киеве
[15:47:49] mishok13: в киеве? питон? логика?
[15:48:00] xa4a: JS/HTML/CSS/AS/ PHP/Python
[15:48:04] xa4a: ^Oo^
[15:48:31] mishok13: похапэ
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[15:50:19] mishok13: когда я общался с Марьяной из лохики, то она утверждала, что питон только в Одессе
[15:50:29] xa4a: говорят new openings
[15:50:34] xa4a: она, да
[15:50:35] mishok13: советую сходить
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[15:51:00] mishok13: можешь от меня привет передавать :)
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[15:51:42] xa4a: :)
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[15:54:16] red-agent: xa4a, Лучше не рискуй.
[15:54:29] red-agent: Кто его знает, что mishok13 там накуралесил с этой дамой...
[15:54:30] red-agent: :D
[15:54:41] mishok13: я бы попросил
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[16:10:29] kwis: Здравствуйте, извиняюсь, глупый вопрос, как сделать чтобы поле SlugField заполнялось само???
[16:10:45] nmk: чем оно должно заполнится?
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[16:11:19] tilarids: prepopulate_from
[16:11:22] tilarids: kwis: ^
[16:11:37] tilarids: use docs, Luke!
[16:11:44] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com is now IT Jam 2009 is coming!!!!! http://it-jam.ciklum.net
[16:12:31] nmk: tilarids: хм. я думал оно просто как charfield :)
[16:13:11] kwis: tilarids, спасибо, я знал что так можно но не понял значения prepopulate_from
[16:13:15] tilarids: nmk: ну, внутри - да.
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[16:21:31] mishok13: romka.shevchenko_gmail.com, мыло ali@ciklum.net оно вообще живое?
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[16:21:56] mishok13: или попросту не хватает человеко-часов обрабатывать огромный поток писем (probably not)
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[16:24:25] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: живое
[16:24:32] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: может меня ставить в копию
[16:24:41] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: rhse@ciklum.net
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[16:25:18] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: все пойдет быстрее
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[16:48:04] Мозгошредер is now Вероятность получения Вами цензурного и корректного ответа зависит от тупости Вашего вопроса обратно пропорционально
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[16:56:20] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com is now IT Jam 2009 is coming!!!!! http://it-jam.ciklum.net
[16:56:50] mishok13: web-oriented (Plone / Pylons / TurboGears / Django / Twisted) frameworks
[16:56:57] mishok13: понятно почему первые четыре
[16:57:01] mishok13: но твистед?
[16:58:05] Darth Лис: там же есть twisted.web
[16:58:11] Darth Лис: вот, поэтому :D
[16:58:45] mishok13: хыхы
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[17:10:06] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: я же ответил вроде :-)
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[17:11:18] mishok13: кому ты ответил?
[17:11:27] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: всем
[17:11:44] mishok13: о чем?
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[17:11:58] mishok13: точнее, ответ на какой вопрос мы получили?
[17:12:14] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: я вобще персонально никого не вижу.. у меня все undefined здесь
[17:12:47] mishok13: охйой, ну ты бы хоть нормальным клиентом тогда пользовался
[17:13:01] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: каким?
[17:13:13] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: говорю ж, первый раз сюда попал
[17:13:27] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ответ на вопрос о мыле :-)
[17:13:29] mishok13: ось у тебя какая
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[17:13:50] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ХР
[17:13:58] Муркт: emacs!
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[17:14:08] mishok13: miranda
[17:14:17] mishok13: в крайнем случае, pidgin или qip
[17:14:39] Муркт: ну можно ещё gajim, наверное?
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[17:15:01] mishok13: у меня почему-то gajim с виндой не ассоциируется :)
[17:15:27] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: щас попробую
[17:15:40] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com is now IT Jam 2009 is coming!!!!! http://it-jam.ciklum.net
[17:15:41] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: у мя вобще через браузер сейчас это все идет
[17:15:48] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: через хром
[17:15:54] Муркт: офигеть :)
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[17:16:17] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: сам тащусь
[17:16:55] kwis: Gajim рулит)
[17:16:57] pina is now away
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[17:17:01] tilarids: gajim на винде - какая-то новогодняя елка
[17:17:06] tilarids: лучше уже под виндой psi
[17:17:15] kwis: на венде не ставил, не знаю
[17:17:22] Муркт: ну-ну, сейчас понасоветуем
[17:17:26] tilarids: kwis: воот. :)
[17:17:35] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: ж-)
[17:18:47] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: так все таки по поводу мыла - пишите мне лучше на гмейл, быстрее будет
[17:18:58] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: в смысле ежели кто заинтресовался
[17:19:06] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: IT Jam'om
[17:19:07] wonderfulll is now away
[17:19:35] tilarids: btw, а что это за веб-клиент, что всё undefined показывается?
[17:19:57] tilarids: можно же юзать хотя бы тот же speeqe.com, там вроде всё приличненько...
[17:19:58] pina is now away
[17:20:22] kwis: лучше насоветуйте мне или сцылком ткните в то как картинки пересчитывать PILом под джангу, хочу при сохранении модели это делать да еще и так чтобы можно было делать два варианта типо big_thumb, small_thumb и оригинал получались....
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[17:20:56] tilarids: !g solr thumbnails
[17:21:19] tilarids: тьфу
[17:21:29] tilarids: !g sorl thumbnails
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[17:22:16] tilarids: джавовский solr меня запутал
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[17:23:03] kwis: tilarids, санкс, ща бум присматриваца
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[18:00:37] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: а как попасть сюда через Gajim??
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[18:04:31] mishok13: Actions --> Join group chat
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[18:06:27] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: надо создать новую запись?
[18:06:41] romka.shevchenko_gmail.com: или как там gmail.com vjно прописать?
[18:07:22] mishok13: http://trac.gajim.org/wiki/GajimGoogleTalk
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[18:20:10] feedbot: TurboGears 1.1 final released http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9r034/turbogears_11_final_released/
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[18:21:44] red-agent: mishok13, ping.
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[18:21:58] mishok13: red-agent, да
[18:22:41] mishok13: кстати, напомните мне все недостатки svn?
[18:22:42] red-agent: Никогда не сталкивался с такой хуйней? prctl(PR_SET_NAME, ...) из glibc, вызывается через ctypes, но собствено говоря не производит надобного эффекта.
[18:22:52] mishok13: неа
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[18:23:13] mishok13: хотя помню что-то подобное года два назад на винде
[18:23:21] mishok13: но я не помню как я решил проблему
[18:23:23] red-agent: Там же нету prctl
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[18:23:42] mishok13: ну я и не про prctl, а про то, что эффекта вообще не было от вызова
[18:23:53] mishok13: там был к COM-овской либе вызов
[18:23:54] kwis: ребята, не могу понять как это сделать http://dumpz.org/13017/ подтолкните плиз
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[18:24:08] red-agent: mishok13, Ну exitcode я получаю нормальный, 0/
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[18:24:19] red-agent: man prctl говорит, что это нормально
[18:24:54] mishok13: под линуксом?
[18:25:06] mishok13: глупый вопрос, под бздей нету этого
[18:25:08] mishok13: или есть?
[18:25:10] red-agent: Нету.
[18:25:14] red-agent: Там setproctitle
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[18:25:40] mishok13: ну я хз, гадать не буду
[18:25:58] red-agent: Ладно, спишем на хуевое расположение звезд.
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[18:34:27] nmk: red-agent: может какой патч для безопастности?
[18:34:30] nmk: на ядре
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[18:35:31] red-agent: Не должно бы.
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[18:36:04] nmk: а ядро то новое? :)
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[18:36:08] nmk: в смысле больше чем там надо
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[18:37:56] red-agent: nmk, Нет.
[18:37:59] red-agent: Все еще юзаю 2.1
[18:38:02] red-agent: ...
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[18:38:18] nmk: ну я к тому что у тебя может быть 2.6.4, например ;)
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[18:38:47] red-agent: Ну сам PR_SET_NAME в 2.6.9 был воткнут.
[18:38:56] nmk: ну и я про то
[18:38:58] red-agent: А prctl - где-то в 2.1
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[18:39:38] red-agent: nmk, Ну я ж тебе не кодманки. Говорю не работает -- значит не работает. И оно бы ругнулось, а не возвращало 0/
[18:39:45] red-agent: *0.
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[18:40:44] nmk: у меня кстати тоже не работает
[18:42:14] red-agent: Нада посмотреть, работает ли в С.
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[18:44:15] kwis: хм-хм... зарлякалася вся... Подскажите, пытаюсь организовать дерево в два уровня, для первого get_absolute_url легко, а как сделать для подкаталогов??? http://dumpz.org/13017/
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[18:53:46] Муркт: red-agent: сделал?
[18:54:07] red-agent: Да нет.
[18:54:11] red-agent: Не работает ни хрена.
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[18:54:23] red-agent: Полезу щас сорсы сисколлов смотреть
[18:54:31] kwis: а мне уже не смешно...
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[18:58:52] Ляпатяпа: kwis, мне не требовался m2m в джанге, но советую начать с dir(subcatalog), там должен быть queryset с каталогами. ну и однозначный урл сделать нельзя, т.к. для сабкаталога может быть указано несколько каталогов
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[18:59:36] red-agent: Хм, а если попробовать финт ушами...
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[18:59:55] kwis: Ляпатяпа, Да вот и я уже минут двадцать иду к этому ответу
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[19:04:52] red-agent: Муркт, Ну в общем, кое-что все же прояснилось
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[19:05:08] Муркт: угу
[19:05:39] red-agent: По-ходу /proc/pid/status не поменяется вообще.
[19:05:46] red-agent: Но само имя все же меняется.
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[19:06:08] red-agent: gnome-system-monitor или как его там - хавает.
[19:06:13] red-agent: А вот ps по-ходу читает оттуда.
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[19:12:54] red-agent: И вот еще gotcha.
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[19:13:07] red-agent: Если вызывать с полной сигнатурой - хрен в зубы получаешь.
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[19:13:23] red-agent: Нужно с prctl(PR_SET_NAME, xxx);
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[21:34:15] kwis: Выручайте, вот такая беда:
Could not import etalonpribor.etalonkatalog.views. Error was: cannot import name render_to
где оно лежит это render_to?
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[21:34:59] Муркт: видимо у тебя нигде
[21:35:04] Муркт: выдрал из байтфлоу?
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[21:37:56] kwis: Муркт, да тут типо советы на сайте на лево и на право раздают...
[21:38:02] kwis: решил поиспользовать
[21:38:25] Муркт: ну так выдирай же ж полностью :)
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[21:38:44] Муркт: и импорти оттуда, куда его засунул. Странный вообще вопрос задал
[21:39:18] kwis: Муркт, да уже подхожу к истине))) Рано запаниковал)))
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[21:40:03] kwis: декоратор же можно прямо во фьюшке написать?
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[21:45:24] Муркт: kwis: што?
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[21:46:11] kwis: вопчем нибуя я с этими @буями немогу разабраца
[21:46:53] Муркт: kwis: ты неосиливаешь декораторы?
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[21:47:01] kwis: Муркт, угу
[21:47:14] Муркт: на самом деле всё гораздо проще, чем в действительности
[21:47:28] Муркт: @decorate
def fun():pass
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[21:47:59] Муркт: это синтаксический сахар для следующей конструкции:
def fun(): pass
fun = decorate(fun)
[21:48:10] Муркт: kwis: ещё не просветлился?
[21:48:55] kwis: http://dumpz.org/13023/ вот такой код говорит:name 'index' is not defined
[21:49:08] kwis: почему?
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[21:49:29] Муркт: "index.html"
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[21:52:24] kwis: написал @render_to("index.html") говорит global name 'RequestContext' is not defined
[21:53:07] kwis: а с кавычками действительно загнался)))
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[21:58:49] kwis: Урррааа!! Заработало))))
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[21:59:36] Александp: http://dumpz.org/12996/
получаю ошибку 'NoneType' object is not iterable
[22:00:01] Александp: что должен возвращать parse и _media?
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[22:04:30] kwis: Ха-ха, я просто нереально пуперский программер, вынес в отдельный файлик и терь буду пользовать во всех своих проектах))))
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[22:09:03] Александp: или может у когог есть пример собственных jinja расширений?
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[22:20:14] feedbot: Bruce the Presentation Tool is for people who are tired of fighting with presentation tools. Presentations are composed (edited) in plain text files. In its basic form it allows text, code, image, interative Python sessions and video. It uses pyglet to render in OpenGL. http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9r2r4/bruce_the_presentation_tool_is_for_people_who_are/
PSA: Python 2.6.3 came out friday, no idea why this was never submitted to r/Python. http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9r28g/psa_python_263_came_out_friday_no_idea_why_this/
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[23:11:25] Typhon: хаха, bruce как раз то, что скоро пригодится, а я думал сам буду делать, никто не пользовал его?
[23:11:40] Typhon: (см. предпоследний линк фидбота)
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