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[14:12:28] xa4a: логика сказала, что крутые питонисты могут приходить поговорить
[14:13:34] red-agent: О чем? О погоде?
[14:14:04] nmk: скажите кто-нибудь серийник к windows xp :) sp3
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[14:14:39] xa4a: nmk: Ъ-пацаны качают занулённую
[14:14:55] nmk: ну там не Ъ :)
[14:15:02] xa4a: red-agent: о жабоскрипте для эмбеддед
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[14:21:32] mishok13: xa4a, так там техническое интервью или как?
[14:21:39] xa4a: пока, грят, просто знакомятся
[14:21:53] xa4a: мне сказали, что с учёбой - вряд ли возьмут
[14:22:38] xa4a: ну вообще понравилось там, да
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[14:49:02] Izvr: привет
[14:49:03] Izvr: спасайте
[14:49:25] Izvr: мне надо бы поставить джангу на винду
[14:49:36] Izvr: чтобы без гемора
[14:49:44] Izvr: может быть даже портабл
[14:49:51] xa4a: $200
[14:50:05] Izvr: да причем тут 200 баксов
[14:50:15] xa4a: тебе надо бы поставить джангу на винду
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[14:50:20] xa4a: чтобы без гемора
[14:50:23] xa4a: может быть даже портабл
[14:50:34] Izvr: извини конечно
[14:50:41] Izvr: поставить то я ее и так смогу
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[14:50:50] Izvr: только мне надо что то вроде дистриба собрать
[14:50:58] wonderfulll: http://www.portablepython.com/
[14:51:06] xa4a: в чём проблема?
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[14:51:28] Izvr: ну я вот поставил например djangostack
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[14:51:42] Izvr: он мне начал ругаться на то, что у меня то этого модуля нет, то этого
[14:51:48] Izvr: хочу apt-get
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[14:52:18] wonderfulll: для какой платформы?
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[14:53:20] Izvr: эээ?
[14:53:38] Izvr: причем тут платформа
[14:53:59] xa4a: хочешь easy_install?
[14:54:12] Izvr: я просто сижу на дебиане и спокойно прогаю себе
[14:54:16] Izvr: и у меня все работает
[14:54:31] Izvr: а тут мне надо взять все это мое барахло, засунуть на диск и отдать заказчику
[14:54:40] xa4a: /me не совсем понимает, почему бы для винды не взять питона, кинуть ему в Lib джангу и э.. и всё
[14:54:58] Izvr: потому что я уже взял питона
[14:55:04] Izvr: с уже кинутой джангой
[14:55:08] Izvr: а оно не очень работате
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[14:55:21] Izvr: например ругается, что у него нет functools
[14:55:24] xa4a: воот.
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[14:55:37] xa4a: с этого надо было начинать
[14:55:41] xa4a: почему нет? :)
[14:55:46] xa4a: в джанге ж они, вроде есть
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[14:56:05] Izvr: пытаюсь поставить functools он говорит что у меня питон собран визуалкой 2003-ей
[14:56:12] Izvr: и предлагает цигвин скачать
[14:56:28] Izvr: в общем установка вместо 2-3 шагов начинает превращаться в лажу какую то
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[14:57:50] xa4a: не, стоп
[14:57:57] xa4a: functools - это ж stdlib
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[14:58:36] Izvr: ну может оно каким то боком в mod_python не попадает
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[14:59:44] xa4a: /me почти спрятался в норку
[14:59:53] xa4a: mod_python?? портабл?
[15:00:13] Izvr: ну не совсем
[15:00:17] xa4a: не, ну я понимаю, что когда-то собирал флешку, коорая при вставке запускала пшп, мускл, апач и всё работало
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[15:00:37] Izvr: http://bitnami.org/stack/djangostack
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[15:00:52] Izvr: вот это я сейчас пытаюсь завести
[15:00:56] Izvr: это не портабл
[15:01:01] Izvr: портабл я другой пробовал
[15:01:04] Izvr: тоже не очень работает
[15:02:05] xa4a: ready-to-run versions of Python, Django, MySQL and Apache
[15:02:09] xa4a: нунахуй
[15:02:10] xa4a: ой
[15:02:28] xa4a: чем для портабл не подходит runserver + sqlite ?
[15:02:50] Izvr: ну в целом подходит, наверное
[15:02:57] Izvr: лагать не будет?
[15:03:17] Izvr: у меня просто на ноуте подлагивают обращения в базу
[15:03:46] Izvr: ноут вроде даже ничего
[15:03:49] xa4a: зависит
[15:04:43] xa4a: смотря что тебе нужно запортаблить. может ты вообще хочешь сгенерировать статические хтмлки, на самом деле
[15:05:20] wonderfulll is now online
[15:05:32] Izvr: ну не
[15:05:42] Izvr: у меня там справочная бд
[15:05:51] Izvr: документики добавляются, изменяются
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[15:05:56] Izvr: по jsonrpc
[15:07:03] Izvr: в принципе можно конечно забить и начать все ставить руками
[15:07:17] Izvr: питон, апач, скулайт
[15:07:29] Izvr: но я времени на это убъю море
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[15:13:55] wonderfulll: так а чем PortablePython не устраивает? там встроенная джанга есть, хотя может чуть медленно работать
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[15:17:23] Izvr: ну портабл питон с джангой старой весьма
[15:17:30] Izvr: я его пока не пробовал
[15:17:31] Izvr: качаю
[15:17:38] Izvr: приходится на йоте сидеть на работе
[15:18:06] wonderfulll: так там легко модули инсталятся вроде
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[15:19:08] wonderfulll: а чё мешает на серве просто апликацию запустить?
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[15:27:12] Izvr: я уж думаю не проще ли сделать виртуальную машину
[15:27:23] Izvr: в никсами
[15:27:27] Izvr: и запускать ее в винде
[15:28:30] Izvr: или вместо апача что-нибудь другое использовать
[15:28:36] Izvr: wsgi какой нить
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[15:33:29] wonderfulll: далеко не тривиальное решение )
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[15:37:41] Izvr: какое из?
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[15:45:32] wonderfulll: с виртуальной
[15:45:39] Izvr: ну почему нет
[15:45:48] Izvr: вполне себе решение
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[15:46:36] Izvr: ставится бодрячком зато
[15:46:55] Izvr: тут еще как назло ни одной нормальной винды нет под рукой
[15:47:02] Izvr: одна есть в виртуалке
[15:47:06] Izvr: и все
[15:47:26] wonderfulll: а как это потом с компакта запускается?
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[18:44:22] mishok13: bobry, а версия питона у тебя какая?
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[18:45:13] bobry: mishok13: 2.6
[18:45:22] mishok13: 2.6.?
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[18:45:44] mishok13: потому что на 2.6.3 поломан setuptools
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[18:46:03] bobry:
ах. тока сегодня обновился до 2.6.3
[18:46:06] bobry: тогда все понятно
[18:46:12] mishok13: жди 2.6.4
[18:46:19] mishok13: или обновленных setuptools
[18:46:25] mishok13: там еще и логгирование поломаное
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[18:47:29] bobry: вот это вообще плохо, а как они поломали то?
[18:48:54] mishok13: теперь нельзя wildcard import сделать для него
[18:48:54] mishok13: from logging import * поломан
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[19:26:33] ploutosss: можно фильтру markdown в джанге сказать чтобы он теги <p> не вставлял?
[19:26:56] Большой Лис: ты этого не хочешь
[19:27:03] Большой Лис: ;)
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[19:29:11] bobry: йода йода
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[19:31:12] Большой Лис: а нафига ты заголовок маркдайном обрабатываешь?!
[19:31:48] ploutosss: чтобы *было* и **было**
[19:32:32] ploutosss: глупость?
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[19:45:55] Чешу енота: -_-
[19:45:55] Чешу енота: Народ
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[19:46:12] Большой Лис: Чешу енота, это не функция
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[19:46:17] Большой Лис: это часть синтаксиса
[19:46:25] Большой Лис: сокращение от else if
[19:46:40] Чешу енота: Но она есть? Я правильно написал?
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[19:46:44] Чешу енота: Ага
[19:47:05] Чешу енота: Пасибки
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[20:29:20] jedgar: как правильно написать регэксп? http://dumpz.org/13059/
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[20:30:04] jedgar: чтоб получить '3', '.4', '.5', '.1' без повторений (\.\d)?(\.\d)?(\.\d)?
[20:30:09] bobry: ого, а давно питон перестал принимать unicode строка в качестве kwargs?
[20:30:21] bobry: jedgar: надо пользоваться тем что уже заматчено
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[20:30:58] bobry: тока наверное слишком громоздко получется
[20:31:42] bobry: может проще сделать .split() и работать со списком?
[20:31:42] jedgar: bobry: мне интересно понять почему нежадный вариант не работает
[20:32:27] jedgar: ладно жадный понятно, ищет с конца (если не ошибаюсь)
[20:33:14] red-agent: bobry, никогда не принимал
[20:33:16] red-agent: кодируй в utf8
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[22:20:09] feedbot: TDD in Python: P&L Statement - Step 2 http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9rflp/tdd_in_python_pl_statement_step_2/
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[22:23:48] kwis: ребята подскажите пожалуйста какой вариант лучше http://dumpz.org/13078/ Детство конечно, но все-таки интересно не плохо ли использовать второй вариант?
[22:24:56] Муркт: 2
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[22:28:01] kwis: Муркт, просто думал не будет ли это плохим тоном или еще что...
[22:28:19] Муркт: не будет
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[22:28:56] kwis: Муркт, спасибо что обращаешь на меня внимание)))
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[22:29:13] kwis: /me задолбал наверное уже всю консту...
[22:29:37] Муркт: просто у меня в емаксе красная надпись в статусной строке появляется, если тут кто-то что-то говорит
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[22:30:17] Александp: kwis, тогда уж http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/tutorial04/#use-generic-views-less-code-is-better
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[22:31:05] Александp: даже вот http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/generic-views/#generic-views
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[22:33:34] xa4a: кто может что-то интересное сказать по теме осознанных сновидений?
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[22:33:54] Муркт: xa4a: ухудшает состояние во время бодрствования
[22:34:15] Муркт: осознанно летаешь в снах и крошишь дьяблу в капусту - но перестаёшь понимать хаскель
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[22:34:33] xa4a: есть пруфлинки?
[22:34:39] Муркт: нет
[22:34:47] xa4a: собств опыт?.
[22:34:51] Муркт: +-
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[22:35:10] Муркт: возможно это побочный эффект - начинаешь слишком много времени снам уделять
[22:35:18] xa4a: /me думает, что готов пожертвовать монадными трансформерами
[22:35:30] Муркт: а может мозг перестаёт расслабляться ночью
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[22:36:05] xa4a: это, похоже управляемо. тоесть не хочешь - не настраиваешься перед сном и спишь как обычно
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[22:36:36] xa4a: а то вот вышло само-по-себе раз и, блин, интересно!
[22:36:39] Александp: за ухом почесал--включилось
[22:36:46] xa4a: ещё чувак зафолловил, который пишет об этом
[22:37:41] kwis: Александp, йомойо, все, с сегодняшнего дня упорно читаю docs.djangoproject. А я и не туды, спасибо, я бы низачто в жизни недогадался что так можно...
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[22:37:56] Муркт: xa4a: угу, случайно и у меня выходило несколько раз.
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[22:38:26] Александp: kwis, нужно не только в чатах сидеть, но и по ссылкам бродить
[22:38:29] Муркт: xa4a: читал как-то давно, как чувак говорил, что у него сны осознанные сами по себе были часто, и он ничего для этого не делал
[22:39:24] Александp: Муркт, а если часто во сне осознанно летать в дурку можно попасть :-)
[22:39:25] Муркт: начинались они у него сами, однако он быстро понимал что это сон, но не просыпался
[22:39:36] kwis: Александp, а еще лучше знать инглишь как родной... это одна с самых больших моих проблем...
[22:39:48] Муркт: Александp: ну, именно этот чел и рассказывал, как он в осознанном сне с дьяблой рубился :))
[22:40:01] Александp: kwis, чувак, это всё отмазы
[22:40:14] Муркт: Александp: +1
[22:40:14] Александp: если нужно что-то, словарик в руки и вперёд
[22:40:35] Муркт: да ну, доки можно читать без всяких словариков. Там примеры краткие, и язык обычно несложный
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[22:40:39] kwis: Александp, гуглотранслятор вместо него и так бывает частенька
[22:40:53] Александp: Муркт, со мной было такое, я понял что я во сне, хотел проснуться но не мог, вот это на самом деле пизд**ц
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[22:41:12] xa4a: а, да. ещё недавно смотрел Waking Life фильм
[22:41:20] Александp: kwis, ну так ты никогда и не научишься читать
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[22:41:54] xa4a: там чувак спит, потом просыпается, ходит, потом понимает, что снова спит. и снова просыпается.. и так несколько раз
[22:42:19] xa4a: Александp: те, кто практикуют, пишут, что довольно просто проснуться
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[22:43:32] Александp: xa4a, а я не мог, хотел но не мог. Ещё во сне в спомнил про серию хауса где у него лежал человек с замкнутым сознинием
[22:43:35] Муркт: Александp: не, так чтоб хотеть, но не просыпаться - у меня не было, и у того чела вроде тоже. Хардкор какой-то
[22:44:03] xa4a: ты когда паниковать начинаешь - по-любому просыпаешься
[22:44:13] xa4a: вики пишет: Как правило человек, обнаруживающий себя в ОС без определённой цели, начинает думать над всеми выпадающими ему возможностями и мгновенно просыпается.
[22:44:25] xa4a: тоесть при панике - тем более
[22:45:05] Александp: меня больше интересует как с собой в сон можно книжек взять, чтобы за ночь осилисть :-)
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[22:45:57] xa4a: Александp: а можно не брать. он итам есть
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[22:56:33] xa4a: Александp: http://www.dreamlight.ru/site/node/192
[22:56:46] xa4a: нашёл вот
[22:57:24] Муркт: xa4a: ты вимер или емаксер? забыл
[22:57:34] xa4a: вим
[22:57:38] Муркт: плохо
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[22:57:43] xa4a: хорошо :)
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[23:27:48] Александp2: xa4a:
[23:28:01] Александp2: ой
[23:28:09] Александp2: ссылку не могу запостить
[23:28:16] Александp2: http://www.dreamlight.ru/site/node/192#comment-752
[23:28:55] xa4a: угу..
[23:29:12] xa4a: я последний раз, когда осознался - во сне во сне. тоесть во втором только
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