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[00:29:18] cutwater: есть кто живой?
[00:29:50] bobry: я есть
[00:30:25] cutwater: вопрос, нужно в unittest проверить декоратор который влияет на аргументы ф-ции. ф-ция методом TestCase быть не может. как проверить ее аргументы?
[00:31:51] red-agent: cutwater, Што?
[00:32:02] red-agent: decorated = decorator(function)
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[00:34:24] cutwater: *почесал репу* что-то я явно делаю не так
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[00:35:26] bobry: cutwater: может decorated = decorator((lambda *args: args)(arg1, arg2...))
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[00:38:02] red-agent: И ты сейчас в декоратор передал не лямбду, а то, что она возвращает...
[00:38:14] bobry: да, сглупил
[00:38:31] bobry: в общем идея ясна я думаю)
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[08:16:46] Большой Лис: пилять
[08:16:50] Большой Лис: дырка в джанге
[08:16:51] Большой Лис: !
[08:17:23] Большой Лис: http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=23805
[08:17:45] Portnov: ... это дырка в джанге!...
[08:18:02] Portnov: ;)
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[08:21:25] bobry: ох нефига себе))
[08:21:31] bobry: breaking news!
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[08:54:29] sevenov: Хы. Позавчера только искал новости про джангу, типа ниразу еще не ломали. А тут бац, новость.
[08:54:44] sevenov: Я почти захватил мир. Что захочу, то и будет.
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[13:17:20] _lorien: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/sound_and_music/72103/ - плюсаните, кому не жалко, пожалуйста :)
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[13:26:05] Муркт: upvoted
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[13:26:25] piranha: цитата из письма чайковского - просто жемчужина ;)
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[15:05:30] red-agent is now Законы просты - =(
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[15:09:22] red-agent is now Ermine - пиzдоголовое существо сомнительной ценности для генофонда человека.
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[15:26:18] kwis: _lorien, дайте инвайт плюсанем)
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[15:40:09] Stanislav Pugachev: признавайтесь кто это писал?))))
try:
os.rmdir(path)
except OSError:
pass
return HttpResponseRedirect('http://upyachka.ru')

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[15:43:08] Большой Лис: :D
[15:43:31] klichuk: где ето?
[15:43:44] Stanislav Pugachev: это в кувейте
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[15:44:45] Stanislav Pugachev: [16:17:50] Bashar: what does it do ?
[16:18:04] Stanislav Pugachev: ti is redirect to one crazy russian site
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[15:48:56] Stanislav Pugachev: ппц :) какойто подонок оставил бомбу в коде )
[15:49:13] Stanislav Pugachev: которая удаляет все до чего дотянется ) и редиректит на упячку )
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[15:52:52] kwis: ребята подскажите плиз, есть корневой urls.py код такой http://dumpz.org/13237/ когда (r'', include('myapp.urls')) закоментирован цсски подключаюца и нормально работают, когда подключаю цсс неработает. Самое интересное что myapp.urls пустой!
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[16:12:26] Izvr: однако я вчера криво-косо реализовал выполнение джанговских методов из js
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[16:31:27] maxp: Izvr: какие методы выполняешь?
[16:31:34] maxp: ведь не любые?
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[16:32:43] kwis: и как это из js? Может с помощью js
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[17:05:40] Izvr: http://dumpz.org/13241/
[17:05:47] Izvr: ну вот это на стороне js
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[17:06:13] Izvr: http://dumpz.org/13242/
[17:06:19] Izvr: это на стороне джанги
[17:06:38] Izvr: я правда пока не придумал как вот эту фишку с objects обходить
[17:06:43] Izvr: но в целом работает
[17:06:54] Izvr: опять же сериализатор мой не очень универсальный
[17:07:07] Izvr: только на queryset действует
[17:07:10] Izvr: но подход прикольный
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[17:07:45] AlexKiriukha: exec - это не очень хорошо. К тому же нет проверок данных
[17:07:57] Izvr: ну это было скорее экспериментом
[17:08:06] Izvr: возможно ли это вообще
[17:08:19] Izvr: поэтому и проверок нет
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[17:08:29] Izvr: а про exec согласен
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[17:08:34] Izvr: предложите альтернативу
[17:08:39] AlexKiriukha: Думаю это можно сделать без exec вообще, что будет лучше
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[17:09:12] Izvr: ну предложи как, я вчера вот спросил
[17:09:26] AlexKiriukha: Что-то типа "взять класс модели по имени", взять у него objects, вызвать метод по имени
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[17:09:53] Izvr: я не очень представляю как это реализовать
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[17:10:10] Izvr: надо поботать
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[17:10:17] Муркт: getattr
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[17:10:58] Муркт: exec('result = serialize(' + r['action'] + '.objects.' + r['method'] + '())')
[17:11:01] Муркт: жесть какая
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[17:11:07] red-agent: x_X
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[17:11:22] Izvr: a=Document.objects.__getattribute__('all')
[17:11:27] Izvr: a()
[17:11:30] Izvr: вот так лучше наверное
[17:11:40] Izvr: ну жесть
[17:11:46] Izvr: но первое, что пришло в голову
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[17:11:57] Муркт: result = serialize(getattr(r['action'].objects, r['method'])())
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[17:13:02] AlexKiriukha: В django.db.models есть функция get_model, но она требует app_label. Как можно обойтись без app_label (кроме проверки в get_models)?
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[17:14:37] Муркт: AlexKiriukha: а как ты себе представляешь обойтись без app_label? их же может быть пять с одинаковым названием в разных апликухах
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[17:15:10] Izvr: ну можно в запросе передавать название app, название модели, название метода, параметры
[17:15:11] Izvr: имхо
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[17:16:19] Izvr: и из них формировать запрос
[17:16:26] Izvr: самое правильное мне кажется
[17:16:49] Izvr: вон если внимательно вглядеться в стандартный джанговский сериализатор, он так и делает
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[17:18:31] AlexKiriukha: Мысль в том, чтобы вообще не знать app_label. Т.е. сделать как можно более обще.
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[17:19:12] Izvr: >>> a=Document.objects.all()
>>> a
[<Document: title>]
>>> serializers.serialize('json', a)
'[{"pk": 1, "model": "documents.document", "fields": {"body": "body", "title": "title"}}]'
[17:20:06] AlexKiriukha: Сугубо теоретический вопрос: когда вообще в пайтоне может быть оправдано использование exec?
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[17:20:12] red-agent: Никогда.
[17:20:21] Izvr: ну скорее всего никогда
[17:20:28] red-agent: Хотя нет, один случай есть.
[17:20:36] Izvr: вот если грамотно скрестить сериализер джанги
[17:20:37] red-agent: Если тебе нужно исполнят пользовательский код.
[17:20:45] red-agent: Допустим с интерактивного интерпретатора.
[17:20:45] Izvr: с rpc сервером
[17:20:48] Izvr: получится то что надо
[17:20:51] red-agent: Или с другого ввода.
[17:20:55] AlexKiriukha: Думаю это единственный случай.
[17:21:14] AlexKiriukha: Просто у меня какое-то предубеждение против этой функции
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[17:22:14] Izvr: да никто и не против =)
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[17:25:13] Izvr: вот из запроса json как вызвать функцию понятно
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[17:25:28] Izvr: правда не очень понятно, что делать когда надо сделать что то чуть более сложное
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[17:26:14] Izvr: например надо сделать Documents.objects.get(path=path).add_child(title='title',body='body')
[17:26:30] Izvr: т.е. когда у меня идет не просто вызов функции
[17:26:40] Izvr: а сначала я должен получить объект
[17:26:49] Izvr: а потом уже у него вызвать некоторый метод
[17:26:53] Izvr: получается кривовато
[17:27:15] Izvr: и приходится возвращаться к интерфейсу взаимодействия а-ля django-json-rpc
[17:28:05] Izvr: по сути вопрос сводится к установлению соответствия объекта в Js и объекта в python
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[17:28:58] AlexKiriukha: Мне кажется кривизны не будет. Вызывать методы - не проблема вообще
[17:29:04] Izvr: т.е. условный объект класса в js при вызове им метода должен как то сообщать питону что вот мол возьми объект, которому я соответствую и вызови для него метод, который я скажу
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[17:29:23] Izvr: как установить это соответствие
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[17:29:54] Izvr: с учетом различия языков
[17:29:57] Izvr: и их подходов
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[17:31:09] Izvr: опять же простейшый случай, я в питоне создаю объект
[17:31:11] Izvr: в джанге
[17:31:18] Izvr: а потом вызываю для него метод save()
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[17:31:21] Izvr: чтобы внести в базу
[17:31:50] Izvr: вот что мне делать в случае, если я делаю это через rpc
[17:32:05] Izvr: объединять эти действия в одно?
[17:32:26] Izvr: но это уже создание надстройки над существующим апи
[17:32:51] Izvr: а если нет, то размывается транзакционность процесса добавления объекта в базу
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[17:35:06] AlexKiriukha: А может вообще сделать JS-прокси, который скроет многие нюансы?
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[18:00:12] Izvr: с этого места поподробней
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[18:00:28] Izvr: как ты себе это представляешь?
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[18:02:46] AlexKiriukha: Пока никак, но вобщем можно получить методы объекта. В JS создать в рантайме те же методы. Всё может работать вполне прозрачно кроме фильтров. Точнее указания условий фильрования и прочего. Это уникально для python, нужно выдумывать как обойти
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[18:05:22] Izvr: всмысле фильтры? приведи пример
[18:06:51] AlexKiriukha: В условиях используется тот факт, что в пайтоне можно передавать именованные параметры. Более того, имена этих параметров могут быть неизвестны. В js это не кажется возможным. Вариант - передавать параметры в виде хэша.
[18:07:18] AlexKiriukha: SomeObject.objects.filter(weight__gt=12).all()
[18:07:47] AlexKiriukha: Думаю сначала было бы хорошо решить нужно ли дублировать функционал
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