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[08:41:48] kawaikunee0: Благодарю товарища bw на форуме, он ответил на мой вопрос, все заработало как надо!
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[08:48:11] kawaikunee: sevenov: что?
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[08:48:41] Муркт: kawaikunee: он дорасшифровал твой ник
[08:49:19] kawaikunee: зачем его расшифровывать? ник как ник..
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[08:50:34] sevenov: kawaikunee, нет, он смешной.
[08:50:54] kawaikunee: да вобщем все равно
[08:51:14] kawaikunee: кому не лень может выдумывать расшифровки
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[08:51:54] kawaikunee: вот это ценно
[08:52:07] sevenov: что за задача-то?
[08:52:16] kawaikunee: по алхимической орм
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[10:18:16] mishok13: да шел бы он нахуй
[10:18:41] mishok13: когда к нему пришел Тарек, он сказал что баги фиксить не будет потому что "нету времени"
[10:18:49] mishok13: теперь соснул сполна
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[10:19:22] mishok13: филлип вообще любитель ничего до конца не доводить
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[10:20:39] Муркт: ага
[10:21:03] Муркт: Щетинин так же матюкался на все эти его треллисы и т.п., и в конце концов тоже всё отфоркал
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[10:22:39] mishok13: лол, фил написал в блог про свой баттхёрт, а потом стёр запись
[10:22:57] mishok13: слава богу, в гуглеридере есть копия
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[10:33:51] mishok13: чичас
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[10:35:02] Муркт: mishok13: можешь мне на мыло скинуть копипаст
[10:36:21] Муркт: спасибо
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[10:54:28] Муркт: зачитнул :)
[10:54:45] Typhon: "я один в белом плаще, а вы дураки и не лечитесь"?
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[10:54:59] sevenov: Че-че за тема?
[10:55:12] Муркт: http://dirtsimple.org/programming/index.html мне тут видно его
[10:55:22] Муркт: по прямому линку access denied, а на главной висит :)
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[10:58:39] xa4a: гхм.. а никто не встречал тулзовины, которй бы можно было задать, например, набор страниц однотипных, некоторый набор/шаблон значений поля какого-то, а она бы это поле на странице нашла, и построила бы какой-то оптимизированный xpath, по которому данное поле находится?
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[11:01:27] xa4a: может платная, или Ъ-энтырпраз
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[11:16:31] Izvr: господа, как проще всего перевести в веб формы экселевские
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[11:16:48] Izvr: ну типа у меня есть сейчас типовые формы, мне надо написать гуевину, которая могла бы их формировать
[11:16:57] Izvr: в основном табличные данные
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[11:18:54] sevenov: >мне надо написать гуевину,
сесть и написать. Не?
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[11:20:56] Izvr: шапка таблиц как правило разбита
[11:21:01] Izvr: типа было-стало
[11:21:11] Izvr: в было разделы всего, в том числе и пр
[11:21:16] Izvr: и в стало тоже самое
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[11:35:38] kawaikunee: По SQLAlchemy подскажите, как лучше сделать, чтобы задать условия выборки из таблицы, которые срабатывали бы автоматически, если не задано иначе в локальной сессии?
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[11:53:07] xa4a: гхм. а ведь любой firefox extension можно взять и почитать?
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[16:05:23] tilarids_: piranha: что-то мне ничего в #mercurial не подсказывают. Фиговастенько :( Еще пресловутая поддержка меркуриалом case insensitive файловых систем какая-то корявенькая
[16:05:51] piranha: ну… в #mercurial как минимум мэтта сча нету
[16:06:00] piranha: а фиговенькая - это как7
[16:06:03] piranha: ?
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[16:07:02] tilarids_: piranha: ну, я так и не понял, что они подразумевают под этой поддержкой. Меркуриал начинает страшно глючить, если случайно заливают в репо два файла с разными кейсами
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[16:07:51] piranha: если с разными кейсами одновременно - у тебя винда с ума сойдëт
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[16:08:53] sevenov: BSOD! BSOOOD!!!
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[16:09:13] piranha: блин, ну как не подсказывают?
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[16:10:42] tilarids_: piranha: вот именно. У меркуриала написано, что он нормально такие ситуации должен обрабатывать
[16:10:56] tilarids_: как я понимаю, он, например, должен мержить такие файлики
[16:11:06] piranha: не смеши меня
[16:11:32] tilarids_: piranha: ну, а что подразумевает тогда поддержку кейс-инсенситив файловых систем?
[16:11:36] tilarids_: я что-то не врубаюсь
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[16:12:01] piranha: у тебя был один файл, потом его удалили, потом появился другой файл
[16:12:05] piranha: с разным кейсом
[16:12:06] tilarids_: я просто недавно читал какое-то сравненьице, так там эта фича указывалась как одна из фич меркуриала, которой нет у других DVCS
[16:12:13] piranha: гиту оно не нужно
[16:12:18] piranha: а что в базаре - не знаю
[16:12:58] tilarids_: piranha: ничего не удаляли. Просто добавили другой файл с новым кейсом
[16:13:04] tilarids_: в репозитории оказываются оба файла
[16:13:07] tilarids_: на диске - только олин
[16:13:10] tilarids_: *один
[16:13:27] nmk: как бы попроще перловый tr/\x{30a1}-\x{30ff}/\x{3041}-\x{309f}/ сделать? :)
[16:13:39] piranha: tilarids_: бля, ну не гони, а?
[16:13:44] piranha: как винда это обработает?
[16:13:52] tilarids_: piranha: что именно?
[16:14:05] piranha: два файла с одинаковым именем
[16:14:08] tilarids_: да никак
[16:14:13] tilarids_: на диске - один файл
[16:14:17] piranha: бляяяяя
[16:14:19] tilarids_: блин, сам не гони
[16:14:28] piranha: в рабочей копии один?
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[16:14:30] tilarids_: на диске один. А в репо - два
[16:14:40] piranha: а теперь плз расскажи мне, как может быть в рабочей копии два
[16:14:49] piranha: когда винда у тебя этого не может сделать
[16:14:57] piranha: потому шо она, бедняга, с детства такая кастрированная
[16:15:00] tilarids_: piranha: сам расскажи, ты же адепт меркуриала
[16:15:07] piranha: пиздец, никак не может быть
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[16:15:22] tilarids_: ага, конечно. Ложки нет
[16:15:24] piranha: тупо не может быть, потому что такого не может быть никогда
[16:15:26] piranha: это винда
[16:15:31] piranha: и всë
[16:15:32] tilarids_: чем чаще повторять, тем скорее поверишь
[16:15:34] sevenov: Сраче! Сраче!
[16:15:47] piranha: а в репозитории их два, потому что меркуриал хендлит этот кейс (и потому оба ревлога у тебя есть)
[16:15:50] red-agent: tilarids, Ты несешь ахинею.
[16:15:52] sevenov: red-agent, есть попкорн?
[16:15:54] piranha: а с рабочей копией ничего не сделаешь
[16:15:59] red-agent: sevenov, Нэ =( тока чай.
[16:16:03] piranha: sevenov: какой сраче!
[16:16:11] sevenov: red-agent, у меня тоже только чай :(
[16:16:15] red-agent: У tilarids просто помутнение рассудка.
[16:16:17] sevenov: и печеньки.
[16:16:19] piranha: учаснег ведëт себя неадекватно, а я не понимаю, как ему это показать
[16:16:20] tilarids_: ну, естественно
[16:16:22] piranha: :(
[16:16:29] sevenov: Эх (
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[16:16:33] tilarids_: вы тут все мать вашу телепаты
[16:16:43] piranha: ;)
[16:16:48] red-agent: tilarids, У тебя есть два файла с разными кейсами в репе? Есть, значит меркуриал поддерживает. А в робочей копии быть не может, т.к. винда не видит различия между ними.
[16:16:49] piranha: натренировались, угу
[16:16:51] dicos is now Думаю над размышлениями
[16:16:51] red-agent: Понимаешь ты или нет?
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[16:16:57] piranha: red-agent: не понимает
[16:16:58] dicos is now Думаю над размышлениями
[16:17:03] piranha: ;-)
[16:17:06] tilarids_: вы гоните
[16:17:11] tilarids_: я вам то же самое говорю
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[16:17:19] piranha: ты гонишь
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[16:17:30] tilarids_: нет на диске двух файлов с разными кейсами, нет!
[16:17:32] piranha: ты не то же самое говоришь
[16:17:34] red-agent:
[16:13:13] tilarids_: в репозитории оказываются оба файла
[16:13:16] tilarids_: на диске - только олин
[16:17:37] piranha: ты имеешь какие-то претензии к меркуриалу
[16:17:43] red-agent: Из этого следует, что ты ожидал на диске - два файла.
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[16:17:52] red-agent: В рабочей копии то-есть.
[16:17:54] red-agent: И не ясно при чем тут hg?
[16:17:57] piranha: хотя по сути по прошествии такого времени это уже меркуриал должен иметь претензии к тебе
[16:17:57] sevenov: :DD
[16:18:00] red-agent: Тебе в суппорт MS.
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[16:18:02] tilarids_: red-agent: из этого следует, что ты долбаный телепат-неудачник
[16:18:06] piranha: нет
[16:18:09] sevenov: я тут сижу такой и смеюсь. Эх, хорошее у меня настроение :-)
[16:18:12] piranha: из этого следует, что ты что-то неадекватен
[16:18:17] piranha: не злись
[16:18:29] piranha: просто прими как данность, что с виндой всë будет пло
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[16:18:33] piranha: хо
[16:18:41] red-agent: tilarids, Ты на личности-то не переходит.
[16:18:42] tilarids_: piranha: я ненавижу винду больше твоего
[16:18:51] tilarids_: red-agent: а ты не делай необдуманных выводов
[16:18:53] piranha: я не ненавижу винду
[16:19:12] red-agent: tilarids, Выржайся яснее в таком случае.
[16:19:27] red-agent: И да, куда более вероятно, что тут два "долбанных телепата-неудачника".
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[16:19:32] red-agent: Вместо одного просто неудачника...
[16:19:51] tilarids_: прошу прощения, если грубо выражаюсь, но не нужно за меня додумывать то, чего нет
[16:19:55] piranha: tilarids_: а как тебя прикажешь понимать, если ты предъявляешь претензии к меркуриалу в тот момент, когда он ничем тебе помочь не может?
[16:19:59] tilarids_: btw, не только винда выделывает фикусы
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[16:20:04] tilarids_: на маке те же приколы с кейсами
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[16:20:57] flykker: /piranha: Thanks !
[16:21:08] flykker: ребята у кого мозг не занят !
[16:21:15] piranha: какой вывод? ;) Нехер юзать файлы с одинаковыми именами. :)
[16:21:17] flykker: нуно помочь
[16:21:32] flykker: кто тут самый смышленый
[16:21:43] red-agent: piranha, Проблемы с кейсам в макоси? Сомнительно как-то.
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[16:21:55] piranha: flykker: прочëл топик?
[16:22:02] mishok13: flykker, задавай вопрос
[16:22:03] piranha: red-agent: ну… щас я тебе покажу ;)
[16:22:17] flykker: #!/usr/bin/python

import os
from email import message_from_string
from poplib import POP3
from mailbox import mbox
from datetime import date
from time import strftime, strptime
from string import strip

msg = ""
dtnow = date.today()
dtn = dtnow.replace(day=dtnow.day-2)
dtw = dtn.strftime("%Y/%m/%d")
inbox = mbox('mbox')

M = POP3('192.168.1.7')
M.user("prog2")
M.pass_("linuxserver")
nmsg = len(M.list()[1])

for i in range(nmsg):
msg = ""
for j in M.retr(i+1)[1]:
msg = msg + j + "\n"

_msg_ = message_from_string(msg)
h = _msg_.__getitem__("Received").split(";")
p = strip(h[1])
dt = strftime("%Y/%m/%d", strptime(p, "%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S +0400"))
if dt < dtw:
print str(i) + ". "+dt#+" "+str(len(msg))
inbox.add(_msg_)

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[16:22:18] red-agent: Хотя конечно не исключено.
[16:22:19] mishok13: блять
[16:22:21] sevenov: БАН!
[16:22:22] red-agent: бляяяя
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[16:22:30] flykker: вот этот код глючит на 456 письме
[16:22:36] red-agent: flykker, Ну ты что-ли на голову больной?
[16:22:38] tilarids_: piranha: их никто специально не называет. Вполне случайно получается. И потом случаютя всякие офигенные штуки
[16:22:40] mishok13: ну почитай же топик, тебя попросили
[16:22:42] flykker: python.exe в процессе 90 мегабайт
[16:22:43] red-agent: Или топик не умеешь читать?
[16:22:45] piranha: я ж тебя по-русски спросил
[16:22:52] flykker: изваните
[16:22:53] piranha: tilarids_: хреново :(
[16:23:10] piranha: tilarids_: но никакой бы гит или там свн бы не помог в этом случае
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[16:23:17] piranha: это ж тупо ССЗБ
[16:23:20] tilarids_: возможно, претензии надо предъявлять не к меркуриалу, а к тому герою, кто написал, что меркуриал отлично работает с кейсами
[16:23:29] piranha: опять 45
[16:23:43] tilarids_: что он сам определяет, на какой фс он сейчас и сам всякие коллизии разрешает
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[16:23:52] red-agent: tilarids, Если бы меркуриал не работал с кейсами, у тебя бы в репе был один файл, вместо двух.
[16:23:55] piranha: piranha@gto ~> ls -ld test TEST
drwxr-xr-x 5 piranha staff 170 Oct 8 23:26 TEST
drwxr-xr-x 5 piranha staff 170 Oct 8 23:26 test

[16:24:03] piranha: red-agent: это одна и та же дира ;)
[16:24:18] red-agent: Бгыгы.
[16:24:25] piranha: ;-)))
[16:24:26] tilarids_: вот тут типа какая-то фигня есть с кейсами: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/CaseFoldPlugin
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[16:24:53] red-agent: tilarids, И как он по-твоему должен решить коллизию? Если на underlying фс не может быть двух файлов с одинаковыми именами в разных кейсах?
[16:25:17] piranha: ну плагин как раз что-то там выдумывает
[16:25:18] tilarids_: red-agent: мержить?
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[16:25:23] piranha: мержить?!
[16:25:25] red-agent: tilarids, Мержить?
[16:25:27] piranha: ГАГАГАГАА
[16:25:30] Ляпатяпа: хуясе
[16:25:37] piranha: ржака
[16:25:41] red-agent: Забавно. Просто забавно.
[16:25:41] sevenov: эээ
[16:25:42] sevenov: щаща
[16:25:46] sevenov: мержить?
[16:25:53] piranha: :DDDD
[16:25:54] sevenov: кто еще не спросил?
[16:26:00] tilarids_: мержить. Брать и мержить два файла
[16:26:14] piranha: особенно я представляю себе отличный мерж, когда test/ - директория, а TEST - файл с порнухой
[16:26:17] piranha: щас замержим!
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[16:27:06] tilarids_: piranha: вот в этом случае и есть ССЗБ
[16:27:21] tilarids_: у нас чаще всего отличаются или два файла или две директории
[16:27:33] piranha: "у нас"
[16:27:38] piranha: а у нас ваще такой лажи не бывает
[16:27:46] tilarids_: piranha: потому что вы юзаете линух?
[16:27:51] piranha: нет
[16:27:55] piranha: потому что у нас такой лажи не бывает
[16:28:03] piranha: разных файлов с одинаковыми именами
[16:28:08] sevenov: линупс - говно.
[16:28:12] tilarids_: piranha: классно вам
[16:28:16] tilarids_: а вот у нас случается
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[16:28:23] tilarids_: не у меня лично, а в репозитории
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[16:28:28] tilarids_: бац - и хрень
[16:28:40] piranha: могу только посмеяться
[16:28:45] piranha: в смысле посочувствовать
[16:28:51] sevenov: :D
[16:28:55] piranha: но вы можете просто перестать это делать
[16:28:55] tilarids_: мда
[16:29:05] sevenov: а, черт. Пойду одеялом упорюсь, холодно.
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[16:29:30] tilarids_: честное слово, конфа превращается в какое-то уныльщину
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[16:29:51] sevenov: tilarids_, потому что я тут, инфа 100%.
[16:30:04] flykker: эээээ чего там скодом
[16:30:11] sevenov: flykker, с каким?
[16:30:20] flykker: который на стеночке был
[16:30:21] tilarids_: не так давно только обсуждали, что качество freenode конф намного лучше, чем любой русскоязычной жаббер конфы
[16:30:22] sevenov: flykker, еще разок.
[16:30:32] flykker: а куда код ложить
[16:30:36] tilarids_: кажется, единственная нормальная русскоязычная конфа решила не выделяться
[16:30:41] tilarids_: flykker: dumpz.org
[16:30:45] sevenov: flykker, сюда же :D
[16:31:16] flykker: ща будет а сюда нельзя же
[16:31:38] piranha: dumpz.org
[16:31:41] piranha: в топике ж написано
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[16:32:03] flykker: ну чего оретет все http://dumpz.org/13308/
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[16:32:11] flykker: вот виснет на 456 письме
[16:32:23] flykker: python.exe 80 мегабайт
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[16:33:20] flykker: может где то переполняется cache
[16:33:32] mishok13: какой кеш?
[16:33:33] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[16:33:41] flykker: хрен его знает
[16:33:43] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[16:33:52] tilarids_: flykker: дебаг?
[16:33:52] mishok13: содержательно
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[16:33:56] tilarids_: на чём именно виснет?
[16:34:08] mishok13: а в самом поп-сервере причины не может быть?
[16:34:18] flykker: при priте на 456 письме
[16:34:29] erraen is now online
[16:34:32] flykker: неа до 456 нормельно а потом что
[16:34:52] piranha: tilarids_: я не понимаю, с какого перца ныть о качестве конфы, когда ты текущую дискуссию не только сгенерировал, но и направил в текущее русло. Ты ж, надеюсь, сам понимаешь, что твои предложения по поводу мержа и претензии по поводу одного файла в рабочей копии - это не серьëзно?
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[16:34:55] flykker: дебаг ничего не говорит
[16:34:56] tilarids is now online
[16:35:07] tilarids_: flykker: при принте? Номер строки скажи
[16:35:33] flykker: номер строки 32
[16:35:38] red-agent: tilarids, Да. И это никак не связано с тем, что ты собственно говоря несешь какую-то несуразную чушь. И ко всему прочему - вместо адекватной аргументации - выплескиваешь свои лучи словесного поноса в виде личностей на учаснегов. Mercurial ничего не должен мержить, если у тебя есть два разных файла в репе с разными именами (потому, что по стандарту POSIX они все же разные) - значить взять и смержить их просто нельзя. А если твоя корявая ОСь/ФС считают, что это один и тот же файл - это уже твои проблемы. Так что либо переименуй файл, либо сделай что-то другой. Я не вижу при чем тут HG. То, что ты хочешь - больше похоже на `from ai.telepathy import do_what_i_mean`.
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[16:35:52] flykker: ну это я для себя для проверки
[16:36:29] flykker: короче память наверняка кушает но не знаю почему
[16:36:36] tilarids_: фак. Участнеги, читайте внимательно мои сообщения, а не телепатируйте
[16:36:49] piranha: сообщение про мерж скопировать? :)
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[16:37:26] piranha: просто ты злишься, потому что у тебя щас абсолютно идиотская ситуация сложилась, которую простым движением пальца не разрулишь.
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[16:37:50] red-agent: flykker, xrange используй вместо range
[16:37:57] flykker: а почему
[16:38:03] flykker: я тупой
[16:38:19] red-agent: range генерирует сразу список с интами, и если их много - то это затратная операция.
[16:38:31] flykker: ну ща попробую
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[16:38:40] red-agent: _msg_.__getitem__("Received")
[16:38:50] red-agent: flykker, Что это?
[16:39:01] flykker: доступ к переменной строке
[16:39:14] red-agent: Что ты городишь?
[16:39:16] piranha: ойвей
[16:39:20] red-agent: _msg["Received"] тебя не устраивает?
[16:39:22] piranha: _msg_['Received']
[16:39:24] flykker: ну то есть parser
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[16:39:36] tilarids_: piranha: red-agent: поищите сообщение о том, откуда я взял, что меркуриал должен разруливать подобные ситуации. Также если хорошо поищете, можете найти и моё сообщение, в котором я признаю, что если в прочитанной мной статье написана фигня, то меркуриал тут не при чём. И если до вас не доходит, что я имею в виду под мержем двух файлов/директорий с разными кейсами, то я могу еще раз объяснить всё на пальцах
[16:39:48] piranha: p = strip(h[1])

p = h[1].strip() - и можно не импортировать
[16:39:49] flykker: а и так работает
[16:40:05] red-agent: flykker, Действительно.
[16:40:14] red-agent: Гланды тоже можна удалять через ректальный проход.
[16:40:19] red-agent: Тоже ведь работает.
[16:40:24] flykker: :-)
[16:40:26] red-agent: Но удаляют почему-то через оральный все-же..
[16:40:45] red-agent: print str(i) + ". "+dt#+" "+str(len(msg))
[16:40:54] red-agent: flykker, Ты про string formatting вообще слышал?
[16:41:10] flykker: не а
[16:41:15] red-agent: Видно.
[16:41:19] tilarids_: flykker: попробуй пропустить 456й имейл.
[16:41:20] flykker: а зачем мне же побыстрому
[16:41:43] flykker: ща
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[16:45:04] red-agent: flykker, По-быстрому - только кролики плодятся...
[16:45:35] sevenov: red-agent, а еще мухи просто так ебутся.
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[16:48:16] flykker: че то забыл
[16:48:19] flykker: if :
[16:48:25] flykker: then
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[16:51:13] flykker: ну вот после 463 письма не хочет дальше
[16:51:22] flykker: это в продолжении
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[16:52:47] red-agent: [16:52:16] flykker: FEFE
[16:52:50] red-agent: Это что?
[16:52:55] red-agent: И не нужно в приват, plz.
[16:52:56] flykker: АУАУ
[16:53:09] flykker: ок или cancel
[16:53:34] flykker: http://dumpz.org/13312/
[16:53:36] sevenov: flykker, помощь зала.
[16:53:42] flykker: все как сказано
[16:53:46] flykker: было
[16:54:06] red-agent: flykker, Что значит "не хочет"?
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[16:54:38] flykker: пропустил 463 и все равно памят забилась и просто встал
[16:55:10] slav0nic: http://art-of-arts.livejournal.com/296968.html
[16:55:55] red-agent: flykker, Значит косяк где-то в логике, что-то аккумулируется в памяти.
[16:56:09] Darth Лис: http://www.yaplakal.com/uploads/post-3-12550775587614.jpg
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[16:56:31] flykker: а как debug сделать нормальный
[16:56:52] flykker: stack посмотреть
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[16:58:03] tilarids_: flykker: import pdb?
[16:58:19] piranha: германия ухудшилась сильно
[16:58:31] piranha: ;)
[16:58:40] sevenov: Darth Лис, ЖВ
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[16:59:48] Darth Лис: дада, ЖВ, кто не понял, сам дурак %)
[17:00:17] piranha: :)))
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[17:04:15] nmk: а никто не ловил такой интересной штуки, как шлешь что-то процессу (открытому через subprocess.Popen) в stdin, а процесс висит и ничего не отвечает? при этом есил в соседнем шелле сделать echo то_что_шлется | херовина, то все хорошо ?
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[17:05:00] red-agent: не flushится вывод?
[17:05:58] nmk: так у меня там proc.communicate(input)
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[17:06:52] red-agent: и?
[17:06:53] wonderfulll is now online
[17:06:57] red-agent: Как шлешь-то?
[17:07:07] nmk: так через proc.communicate и шлю ;)
[17:07:18] red-agent: Ну так вот.
[17:07:24] nmk: ну так он stdin закрывает
[17:07:30] red-agent: Он тебе возвращает io обьект прицепленный к дескриптору.
[17:07:33] red-agent: Гм.
[17:07:42] red-agent: Попробуй все-же флашнуть его.
[17:07:50] nmk: он мне ничего не возвращает. он тупо ждет. попробую щас без communicate
[17:08:24] nmk: да не, тоже самое
[17:08:29] red-agent: communicate() returns a tuple (stdoutdata, stderrdata).
[17:08:49] red-agent: показывай код в общем.
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[17:08:53] nmk: подвисает на proc.stdout.read()
[17:08:57] red-agent: ты PIPE подключил?
[17:09:00] nmk: да
[17:09:12] red-agent: Хз, давай код.
[17:09:14] nmk: так не на всех исходных данных. щас дам код
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[17:10:56] nmk: я бы и на chasen попинал, но, в шеле сука работает
[17:11:12] red-agent: (stdout, stderr) = proc.communicate(inp)
[17:11:16] red-agent: Нене, девид блейн.
[17:11:41] nmk: че? :)
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[17:12:28] red-agent: не, ниче, я думал, что ты собрался туда писать.
[17:12:30] piranha: http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/etihad.asp - статья про ту херь, что была написана про самолëт
[17:12:35] red-agent: nmk, А где висит?
[17:12:53] nmk: виснет на proc.communicate(inp)
[17:13:38] nmk: а там на rlist, wlist, xlist = select.select(read_set, write_set, []) это в File "/usr/lib/python2.5/subprocess.py", line 1213, in _communicate
т.е. я ctrl-c в трейсбеке это последнее
[17:13:50] red-agent: Похоже, что процесс не флашит корректно данные.
[17:13:56] nmk: в стрейсе одни read, select
[17:14:02] nmk: очень может быть
[17:14:03] red-agent: сделает .wait()
[17:14:05] red-agent: перед этим.
[17:14:30] nmk: т.е. записать в stdin, закрыть stdin, потом wait, потом read из stdout ?
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[17:14:49] red-agent: proc.wait()
(stdout, stderr) = proc.communicate(inp)
[17:15:10] nmk: эээ.
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[17:15:23] nmk: так wait же будет ждать пока умрет чилд
[17:15:26] nmk: я попробую конечно ;)
[17:15:37] red-agent: А он у тебя не умирает что-ли? Или это демон?
[17:15:58] nmk: не. это софтина который я даю на stdin строчку, а она мне на stdout херню одну
[17:16:12] nmk: wait он же ждет пока завершится процесс
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[17:16:33] red-agent: Ну я думал, что ты просто поулчаешь данные и он захлопывается.
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[17:16:58] nmk: я ничего не получаю, в том то и дело. т.е. я пытаюсь делать proc.stdout.read() и висну на этом
[17:17:09] nmk: точнее нет. точнее на proc.wait щас висну.
[17:17:21] nmk: после того как послал что-то в stdin и закрыл его
[17:17:22] red-agent: Ну значит процесс не флашит данные правильно.
[17:17:27] red-agent: И они повисают в буфере.
[17:17:43] nmk: а в шеле как тогда работает?
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[17:18:33] red-agent: Вопрос однако.
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[17:19:14] nmk: причем если в Popen задать shell=True, то тогда chasen сука вообще не запускается. я на 90% процентов уверен, что проблема в chasen.
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[17:20:44] red-agent: Да, он что-то мудрит.
[17:20:48] red-agent: Лезь в сорсы.
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[17:21:45] red-agent: nmk, Тебе после этого процесс еще нужен?
[17:21:46] nmk: да щас посмотрю дебиановский пакет с сырцами, может эти там чего нападчили
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[17:21:57] nmk: не. не нужен.
[17:22:03] red-agent: Если прихлопнуть процесс - ОС флашнет данные.
[17:22:18] nmk: ща проверю
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[17:22:52] nmk: слуш. да. действительно.
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[17:23:02] nmk: все приходит как должно
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[17:23:32] nmk: спасибо. попробую понять что там нападчить ;)
[17:23:39] nmk: но бля. в шеле то почему работает? :)
[17:23:50] red-agent: Потому, что процесс завершается?
[17:23:54] red-agent: Или нет?
[17:24:07] nmk: а почему из Popen не завершается? :)
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[17:24:33] red-agent: Ты когда запускаешь эту тузлу, просто в консоли - она в конце концов завершается или остается висеть?
[17:25:04] nmk: завершается
[17:25:23] red-agent: Странно все это, а что говорит, если запускать с shell=true?
[17:25:50] nmk: да он ругается там на то, что файл со словарем разобрать не может (скорее всего что-то с кодировкой), а потом python выпадает с Broken Pipe
[17:26:14] red-agent: Какой файл со словарем?
[17:26:30] red-agent: И какая ось вообще?
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[17:26:43] nmk: ну chasen это херня для японской морфологии. ему нужен словарь. ось линукс.
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[17:27:54] red-agent: Хм.
[17:27:58] red-agent: Попробуй os.fsync()
[17:28:09] red-agent: Не стояло вообще с shell=false игратся.
[17:28:17] nmk: бля. да эта сука ждала \n :)
[17:28:48] nmk: все гуд. заработала.
[17:28:54] red-agent: Ну вот, видишь.
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[17:29:05] nmk: а echo разве шлет \n ? :)
[17:29:22] red-agent: Да.
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[17:29:32] red-agent:
red-agent@linuxbox ~ $ echo "fuck"
fuck
red-agent@linuxbox ~ $
[17:29:41] nmk: ээ. мож у тебя шел тут строчку переводит :)
[17:29:54] red-agent: Нет.
[17:29:58] piranha: нет
[17:30:05] nmk: ну ок. значит сам я дурак. спасибо :)
[17:30:14] red-agent:
red-agent@linuxbox ~ $ echo -n "fuck"
fuckred-agent@linuxbox ~ $
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[17:30:22] red-agent: Шелл сам ничего, никуда не переводит =)
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[18:26:38] Stanislav Pugachev: народ, хелп плыз. у меня какоето полтергейство с формой. делаю в форме отак:
purpose = forms.ChoiceField(choices=AD_PURPOSES, widget=forms.Select(attrs={"autocomplete": "off"}))
purpose.empty_value = "(Choose one)"
и потом в шаблоне отак:
{{ form.purpose }}
и на странице у меня сверху дефолтное значение у select'а "------------"
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[18:27:18] Stanislav Pugachev: как его сцукку прищучить? как поменять на свое
[18:28:44] Stanislav Pugachev: Ляпатяпа, выручай )
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[18:29:23] Ляпатяпа: хз
[18:29:29] piranha: оно вроде в чойсы добавляет это
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[18:29:39] piranha: ты сорцы уже читал? :)
[18:29:47] Stanislav Pugachev: так я ж ему явно задаю другое
[18:29:50] Stanislav Pugachev: та читал
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[18:30:55] Stanislav Pugachev: седня ваще день спрошлого стрит мэджика
[18:31:01] Stanislav Pugachev: сплошного*
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[18:31:38] Stanislav Pugachev: в доках ваще написано шо дефолтное у него пустая строка
[18:31:47] Stanislav Pugachev: Empty value: '' (an empty string)
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[20:31:27] Муркт: http://korrespondent.net/world/997787
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[20:31:50] bobry: Муркт: ты случаем не emacsen? :)
[20:31:56] Муркт: да, но я фак
[20:32:02] Муркт: *афк
[20:32:07] bobry: ах, тогда сорри
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[20:57:03] _lorien: http://pyjob.ru/job-places/ - вот чего придумал, есть что добавить?
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[20:57:54] bobry: хорошая идея
[20:58:18] bobry: плохо, что посещаемость у сайта страдает :/
[20:58:31] _lorien: кому плохо?
[20:59:03] bobry: все наверное плохо :)
[20:59:07] bobry: *всем
[20:59:40] _lorien: Я думал было сегодня сделать там ещё каталог python-разработчиков, потом понял, что это надо регистрацию и прочие вещи приделывать и забил :)
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[21:00:22] bobry: да не, каталог наверное нафик, работодателей бы привлечь :)
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[21:01:08] _lorien: хм, можно каталог python-студий, платный :o)
[21:01:09] огыешсук: _lorien: можешь ещё http://groups.google.com/group/django-russian/ помянуть. Там я помню тоже вакансии пару раз пролетали.
[21:01:17] _lorien: аа, точно, спасибо
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[21:01:46] _lorien: меня порадовал тот факт, что на djangogigs.com запостить вакансию 50 баков стоит :)
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[21:02:36] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (один мой работодатель постил. дважды. успешно)
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[21:25:11] piranha: эх
[21:25:20] piranha: клëвая вакансия, но required to work on-site
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[21:47:12] _lorien: А никто не делал поисковик по торрент-трекерам? Это сложно?
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[21:47:48] red-agent: Муторно.
[21:47:54] piranha: isohunt.com
[21:48:08] Typhon: mininova.org ?
[21:48:15] _lorien: Просто есть сайт - рейтинг трекеров. Там щас 2к хостов тупо с яндекса заходит. Думаю, куда двигаться дальше.
[21:49:10] Typhon: No results for жопа
Did you mean: 2012?
[21:49:22] piranha: :-))
[21:49:48] _lorien: red-agent, а как это вообще происходит? Обыкновенный парсинг html страниц на трекере, парсинг rss или есть какие-то стандартные каналы для экспорта информации заинтересованных потребителям?
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[21:50:31] red-agent: _lorien, Зависит от конкретного треккера, у некоторых есть rss/atom фиды. Но в целом - нужно парсить html контент.
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[22:24:35] xa4a: кто-то пару недель советовал юзать userapi.com вместо распарсивания хтмла вконтакта
[22:25:28] xa4a: так вот х**: [{0:"149944644",1:"1255456194",2:["привeт!!!Кaк дела?"]}] ни один парсер не берёт :\
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[22:27:40] xa4a: ideas any1? кроме как писать свой json-парсер
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[22:29:25] piranha: хммм
[22:29:30] piranha: а почему не берëт?
[22:29:35] piranha: сек
[22:29:50] xa4a: судя по всему - т.к. поля объекта цифрами обзываются
[22:30:13] piranha: ага
[22:30:18] piranha: уже тоже понял это
[22:30:23] piranha: тупо однако
[22:30:28] piranha: напиши свой парсер? ;)))
[22:30:35] Typhon: eval("""[{0:"149944644",1:"1255456194",2:["привeт!!!Кaк дела?"]}]""") :) ^_^
[22:30:37] piranha: возьми funcparserlib, там у него в примерах есть парсер джейсона
[22:30:49] xa4a: гм
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[22:30:57] xa4a: eval, это похоже)
[22:30:59] piranha: плюс код понятный выходит
[22:31:07] piranha: эвал не стрëмно? ;)
[22:31:08] xa4a: гхм
[22:31:15] xa4a: piranha: мне пока что для опытного образца)
[22:31:22] xa4a: так что не очень
[22:31:35] piranha: ;-)
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[22:35:15] xa4a: а в примере в документации у них на этом месте список..
[22:35:26] piranha: они умнитсы
[22:35:27] xa4a: я знаю, кто во всём виноват!!11
[22:35:40] xa4a: пшп, очевидно же)
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