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[07:51:49] dicos: Вопрос, касающийся структуры проекта: создал каталог "мой проект", в нем сделал 4 каталога: в apps будет само приложение; libs сторониие библиотеки, templates шаблоны, media -- картинки. По идеи мне надо выполнить команду django-admin startproject мой_проект в каталоге apps, но эта команда создаст каталог, в котором будут находиться файлы проекта. Создавать проект с названием apps мне кажется глупым. или не совсем глупо?
[07:53:38] _lorien: просто создай проект, потом внутри создай каталог apps
[07:55:31] dicos: То есть в у меня есть каталог arenda, в нем каталоги libs, templates , media. В этом же каталоге выполнить команду django-admin startproject arenda ?
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[08:01:33] Ляпатяпа: cd ~/work/
django-admin startproject arenda
cd arenda
mkdir apps libs templates static
[08:02:17] dicos: понятно
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[08:14:09] _lorien: тока придётся ещё хакать settings.py и добавлять apps в sys.path иначе не получится импортировать приложения по их имени
[08:15:23] fake4me: ребята, доброго утра всем, если не секрет, какой сейчас средний оклад питон-программиста?
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[08:16:31] _lorien: мне кажется в районе 30-60, но это просто догадки, никакой статистики
[08:17:17] fake4me: _lorien: удаленка, или обязательно офис|предприятие?
[08:17:34] _lorien: не знаю :) Просто ляпнул цифру
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[08:17:49] _lorien: удалёнка тоже бывает хорошооплачиваемая
[08:18:23] _lorien: если говорить про офисы, то в москве-питере, думаю, зарплаты повыше чем в регионах :) А удалёнка, она и в Африке удалёнка.
[08:18:52] fake4me: я знаю :) сам работаю удаленщиком, нормально вродь зарабатываю, но хочется больше :)
[08:19:43] fake4me: давно предлагали работу в офисе, но жилье у вас там дорогое, соблазняли бесплатными обедами и корпоративными вечеринками
[08:19:58] _lorien: у кого у нас, я вот вообще в Омске живу :)
[08:20:25] fake4me: ну я за Москву...
[08:20:47] _lorien: там жильё дорогое + добираться до метро, потом на метро, потом обратно.. С другой стороны больше возможностье поработать за деньги нормальные, с людьми интересными. В том же yandex
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[08:22:59] fake4me: уф, у меня на бывшей работе, крупненькая фирма, по онлайн играм, правда уже расспалась вродь, там был студент, подрабатывал на пол ставки, но умудрился попасть в яндекс, на 60000 вроди, это во время учебы, а потом больше :) это сис админу :) как же я хочу уехать из своего урюпинска
[08:24:54] _lorien: Как вариант попробуй на odesk.com поработать. Попробуй поискать там работу на 15/20$ в час
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[08:28:26] fake4me: хм, спасибо, посмотрю что там
[08:29:11] _lorien: ну это такой продвинутый free-lance сайт, оплата проходит через сам odesk.com, заказчик засылает деньги туда, а потом они капают тебе на карточку, на хабре писали про него
[08:30:47] fake4me: прозреваю что нужно знать на хорошем уровне разговорный английский?
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[08:31:52] _lorien: Желательно, но не обязательно, я думаю
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[08:33:57] _lorien: fake4me, если есть блог, напиши в блоге, что работа нужна :D
[08:35:54] fake4me: :) я его уже второй год собираюсь делать, а за сайтик спасибо, довольно привлекательные вакансии нашел, буду смотреть
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[08:37:46] fake4me: работа у меня есть, но меня там тупо обманывают, платят значительно меньше, а я ничего сделать не могу, постоянка удаленно, а возвращаться обратно к фрилансу - стремно немного, хотя раньше зарабатывал больше, фрилансом
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[10:25:03] dicos: Можно ли в django сделать уникальность по нескольким полям? То есть, в таблице дом не должно быть 2-х и более записей, у которых поля номер, и улица совпадают.
[10:25:51] Lolka: да
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[10:26:19] dicos: хорошо, поищу
[10:27:37] Lolka: а чего искать -- просто unique у нескольких полей, и все
[10:27:56] Lolka: для save() надо перехватывать IntegrityError
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[10:30:52] dicos: Lolka, не получится, если сделать уникальной улицу, то получится, что дом Проспект Мира 1 существует, а Проспект Мира 2 нет, т.к. улица повторяется, мне же надо, чтобы не было повторений Проспект Мира 1, Проспект Мира 1
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[10:36:42] Lolka: черт, где то я видел, что то в стиле unique_with...
[10:36:47] Lolka: или это были рельсы... :)
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[10:40:08] Lolka: хех, ну, второй вариант, просто в форме в def clean() написать такую проверку
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[12:21:04] xa4a: http://imgur.com/xEPyn.png это на чём код?
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[12:28:25] pr0ks: мб какой -нить parser?)
[12:28:30] pr0ks: хотя никогда его в глаза не видел
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[12:31:42] Ляпатяпа: похож на роровский язык шаблонов
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[12:34:19] Ляпатяпа: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haml
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[12:39:53] xa4a: спасибо, буду зн.
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[13:00:15] Ляпатяпа: xa4a, http://alexlebedev.com/blog/on-html-templates/ про него по русски
[13:00:49] Ляпатяпа: я сейчас скриптик накалякал, он джанговский орм и реверсинг урл использует
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[13:01:06] Ляпатяпа: профайлер выдает 3.5 секунды...
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[13:01:56] Ляпатяпа: смотрел в чем проблема - оказалось это реверсинг одной ссылки столько занимает
[13:02:29] Ляпатяпа: если сделать в get_absolute_url просто выдачу текста -- стало 0.004 CPU seconds
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[13:16:54] xa4a: dumpz.org лежит
[13:18:11] xa4a: должен же быть способ описать эту логику без повторения кода? http://dpaste.com/108491/
[13:18:32] xa4a: кроме 'and url in cache'
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[13:25:43] maxp: уважаемые, подскажите, в Джанге есть какой-нибудь встроенный тэг, чтобы делал "123"*n
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[13:40:22] tilarids: xa4a: можно if засунуть внутрь try
[13:40:46] tilarids: и там бросать exception
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[13:42:24] xa4a: /me снова с любовью отзывается о разработчиках вконтакте :\. теперь у них спека пo userapi.com противоречивая :\
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[14:12:11] xa4a: гхм. http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html#slots This class variable can be assigned a string, iterable, or sequence of strings with variable names used by instances. потом на несколько абзацев ниже: Any non-string iterable may be assigned to __slots__.
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[14:25:21] xa4a: у меня есть класс A в котором в __getattr__ генерирую метод, например do_stuff(). Есть класс B(A), хочу в нём вызов do_stuff(), который в А, обернуть во что-то. на super(B, self).do_stuff получаю AttributeError: 'super' object has no attribute 'do_stuff'. Это я чего-то недопонимаю, или питон?
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[14:27:38] bobry: там какая то хитрость была с __getattr__ и __getattribute__, тока уже не помню точно какая
[14:28:38] xa4a: __getattribute__ вызывается в любом случае, а __getattr__ - только, если атрибут не найден
[14:28:41] xa4a: это не то
[14:29:04] xa4a: тут что-то именно c <super: ..> объектами
[14:29:33] bobry: а класс А от чего наследуется?
[14:29:38] bobry: он не new-style?
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[14:29:44] bobry: т.е. наоборот new-style
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[14:30:03] xa4a: да, A(object)
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[14:32:44] mr.oduvan: ВСем привет
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[14:36:11] xa4a: привет
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[14:36:49] xa4a: иллюстрация к вопросу выше о super: http://dpaste.com/108514/
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[14:48:13] mr.oduvan: ξ <- стразу видно, что твое :)
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[14:49:48] mr.oduvan: а если A.do_stuff(self)
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[14:50:57] xa4a: mr.oduvan: a.do_stuff() -> 5
[14:50:59] xa4a: а
[14:51:03] xa4a: ща
[14:51:36] mr.oduvan: народ, а если весь джанговский проект откомпилисть compileall через -OO, то будет быстрее*
[14:51:38] mr.oduvan: ?
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[14:51:43] xa4a: AttributeError: type object 'A' has no attribute 'do_stuff'
[14:52:07] mr.oduvan: ААА
[14:52:08] mr.oduvan: щас
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[14:53:17] mr.oduvan: попробуй
[14:53:21] mr.oduvan: def __getattribute__(self,name):
[14:53:43] xa4a: у кого?
[14:54:00] mr.oduvan: вместо
[14:54:02] mr.oduvan: def __getattr__(self, key):
[14:54:08] xa4a: гм..
[14:54:25] mr.oduvan: есть предчуствие
[14:54:28] mr.oduvan: :)
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[14:55:08] xa4a: 5 5
[14:55:22] xa4a: тоесть A.__getattribute__ перекрывает B.do_stuff
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[14:57:08] mr.oduvan: а где можно посмотреть историю общения канала?
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[14:57:19] xa4a: в топике
[14:57:20] mr.oduvan: а то я вчера тему затронул, и свалил
[14:57:56] xa4a: http://➡.ws/pu
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[15:02:57] mr.oduvan: чтото поболтали не о чем.
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[15:28:22] mr.oduvan: а зачем нужны файлы *.pyo ?
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[15:28:46] mr.oduvan: они получаются, когда компилиш с -OO
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[15:37:11] xa4a: чо-то только такой костыль придумался http://dpaste.com/108535/
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[15:39:59] mr.oduvan: psyco с джангой кто то пробовал?
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[15:40:35] xa4a: mr.oduvan: не думаю, что это правильное направление оптимизации сайта
[15:41:01] xa4a: тоесть в 95% в джанго-сайтах тонкое место - не питон
[15:41:16] mr.oduvan: абсолдютно согласен
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[15:41:53] mr.oduvan: я просто увидел эту фишку - спросил - первое, что пришло в голову
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[15:49:26] mr.oduvan: ну на сколько я вижу - психо накладывает вообще очень большие ограничения на использование перла
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[15:53:30] mr.oduvan: скажите, а фрииз ускаряет работу, или просто делает бинарник?:
[15:54:21] Муркт: mr.oduvan: при чём тут пёрл?
[15:54:43] mr.oduvan: !!! ой
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[15:54:45] mr.oduvan: питона
[15:54:50] mr.oduvan: спалился :)
[15:56:16] Муркт: что такое фрииз?
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[16:17:05] mr.oduvan: из python-examples
[16:17:19] mr.oduvan: а почему он собирает практически все модули мои
[16:17:29] mr.oduvan: на простой скрипт print 'HI'
[16:17:46] mr.oduvan: да еще и говорит, что ему чтото не хватает
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[16:25:27] Муркт: ты о чём ваще нах
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[16:27:42] mr.oduvan: да сам с сабой нах
[16:27:43] mr.oduvan: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Freeze
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[16:38:02] Муркт: mr.oduvan: хуйня этот фриз, нафиг он тебе?
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[16:38:39] mr.oduvan: да я понял уже, что хуйня.
[16:38:50] mr.oduvan: эт у меня субботник около питоновский
[16:39:48] mr.oduvan: щас переходим к couchdb
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[16:46:44] maxp: а расскажите, что клёвого в couchdb ?
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[16:47:09] mr.oduvan: restful - это когда мы всю обработку данных выносим на клиент?
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[16:49:05] mr.oduvan: шото я не понял ниче революционного в нем
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[16:50:16] maxp: я слыхал, что очень клево в него всякий json запоминается
[16:50:25] slav0nic: а что ты хошь увидеть революционного в ьехнологии которой 9 лет?))
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[16:51:32] mr.oduvan: slav0nic, привет
[16:51:39] slav0nic: прет
[16:51:49] mr.oduvan: ну а что тогда такого клевого в couchdb?
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[16:52:44] slav0nic: вебонутость))
[16:53:08] slav0nic: rest+json
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[16:53:38] mr.oduvan: я щас пытаюсь вникнуть, что вообще под рестом понимается.
[16:53:45] slav0nic: а в чём крутость, лучше у кого-то другого спроси)
[16:54:00] slav0nic: мне он пока не пригодиля
[16:54:04] slav0nic: *ся
[16:54:22] mr.oduvan: да я вот пытаюсь понять, где он мне может пригодится..
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[17:00:01] Муркт: mr.oduvan: а что в ресте непонятного?
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[17:11:58] mr.oduvan: на сколько я понял рест - это когда данные ренерируемые клиентом - им же и используются.
[17:12:20] Муркт: mr.oduvan: бред какой
[17:12:21] mr.oduvan: и каучдб - используется как сторедж и все.
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[17:12:49] Муркт: почитай саймона виллисона
[17:12:56] mr.oduvan: я только пока не понимаю, как происходит идентификация
[17:13:02] mr.oduvan: что именно?
[17:13:08] Муркт: щаз
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[17:14:44] mr.oduvan: меня просто приследует ощущение - что они чемуто элементарному и обыкновенному присвоили крутое название РЕСТ
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[17:15:02] mr.oduvan: о... а альтернатива реста - это?
[17:15:05] mr.oduvan: соап?
[17:15:11] slav0nic: rpc
[17:16:07] Муркт: mr.oduvan: короче, тут вот есть и слов немного, и ссылок http://softwaremaniacs.org/blog/2008/11/02/rest-vs-ws/
[17:16:28] Муркт: и на русском, как ты любишь
[17:16:46] Муркт: сам холивар не читай, он только с толку тебя собьёт
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[17:17:06] mr.oduvan: "и на русском, как ты любишь" :)
[17:17:17] Муркт: ну я помню, что ты английский не сильно понимаешь
[17:17:39] Муркт: блин, у меня такое впечатление, что амарок с какого-то хера включил fade между песнями. В настройках выключено, но я его всё равно ненавижу
[17:17:58] mr.oduvan: не... понимаю нормально... пишу с ошибками
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[17:35:51] mr.oduvan: я в шоке.. столько времени убить
[17:36:29] mr.oduvan: Муркт, ты прав, я люблю на русском
[17:36:46] Муркт: mr.oduvan: почитал - осознал, что такое рест?
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[17:59:06] _lorien: опенофис на меркуриал перелез
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[18:01:35] Муркт: ага
[18:01:37] Муркт: кхул :)
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[18:05:45] Большой Лис: заметили кстати, как ынтырпрайз на ХГ полез?
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[18:06:36] Муркт: сан тот же
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[18:34:46] Ляпатяпа: 300 packets transmitted, 126 received, 58% packet loss, time 299904ms
ебучий провайдер
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[18:36:24] Imbolc: Салют!

А что такое, вообще, асинхронность? Всегда думал, что это что-то типа паралельности. А сейчас вот запустил под tornado(такой асинхронный веб-сервер) простенький wsgi-скрипт. Там:

for i in xrange(3):
print uri, i
time.sleep(1)
[18:36:28] Imbolc: Запрашиваю одновременно несколько паг. В консоли:
/ 0
/ 1
/ 2
/0/ 0
/0/ 1
/0/ 2
/0/1/ 0
/0/1/ 1
/0/1/ 2

[18:36:37] Imbolc: Т.е. выполняется последовательно всё.
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[18:36:55] Imbolc: Асинхронность - это не то. Или wsgi не предполагает её?
[18:36:56] Ляпатяпа: просто ты сейчас не юзаешь асинхронность
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[18:37:11] Imbolc: А как её заюзать?
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[18:37:27] Ляпатяпа: ну во первых там в доках про виски сказано, что не предполагает
[18:37:49] Imbolc: А, ну ясно тогда, респект :)
[18:38:03] Ляпатяпа: конкретно для торнадо - надо декоратор включить для функции асинхронный, ну и асинхронные запросы делать
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[18:41:41] Imbolc: Ляпатяпа, а может ты ещё знаешь, почему джанга-сайты максимальную производительность дают в один поток/тред?

С _lorien уже пробовали под всякими серверами и тредами и потоками, всё одно и тоже.
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[18:42:41] Муркт: асинхронность - это не совсем параллельность
[18:43:19] Муркт: а максимальную производительность дают потому, что нет особо причин, из-за которых бы это было иначе :)))
[18:44:21] slav0nic: Imbolc, time.sleep() в асинхронном приложении быть не можеть
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[18:45:15] Ляпатяпа: не, вот этого я стопудово не знаю
[18:45:26] Imbolc: Муркт, Ну как нету. Ресурсы процессора, память, всё свободно. Делаем несколько отдельных потоков под апачем. Какие причины не работать быстрее?
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[18:45:50] Муркт: Imbolc: а если процессов сделать?
[18:45:56] Ляпатяпа: загрузка проца какая?
[18:46:08] slav0nic: time.sleep() не может быть в асинхронном приложении
[18:46:09] Imbolc: Вот именно процессов, не тредов.
[18:46:27] Imbolc: Загрузка, ну процентов 30.
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[18:47:14] Муркт: ну а если процессов - то значит у вас что-то неправильно в консерватории
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[18:47:27] Муркт: может разрешён один коннект в базу?
[18:47:28] _lorien: http://softwaremaniacs.org/forum/django/13585/ - вот тот топег
[18:48:52] Ляпатяпа: я так понимаю - у компа есть некий максимум производительности, ну там мегафлоп для проца, 100 мегабит для локалки, и прочее. Больше этого он дать не может. Если прога не использует максимум по каким-то причинам - например ждет данных из базы - можно запустить еще поток/процесс, он во время ожидания того процесса может сам работать
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[18:49:36] Муркт: у вас может быть что-то случайно неправильно сконфигурировано
[18:49:44] Муркт: попробуйте просто хелловорлдов возвращать
[18:49:47] slav0nic: а в чём бок?)
[18:49:55] Муркт: не лазить в базу, не рендерить темплейты
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[18:52:16] Imbolc: Вот, мы пробовали в разных местах. Хеловорд пробовали тоже, быстрее в один поток. Если откровенно time.sleep ставить, то быстрее в несколько. А так в один как ни крути.
[18:52:46] Муркт: а если не апач?
[18:53:59] _lorien: у меня nginx + superfcgi одинаково работают с разным кол-ом тредов и процессов в superfcgi демоне
[18:54:38] _lorien: одинаково, в смысле одинаковое кол-во обрабатываемых запросов в секунду при тесте через ab
[18:55:02] slav0nic: хеллоуворлд?
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[18:55:53] Imbolc: Вообще, разные сервера и варианты пробовали. Я уже и смирился с таким положением. Просто, чего-то вспомнилось. Попробуйте свои сайты, кому не лень. Тоже удивитесь, наверное :)
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[18:57:16] _lorien: slav0nic: не, pyjob :D
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[18:59:13] slav0nic: _lorien, мож у тебя всё закешировано?) при обращение в базу производительность должна меняться при увелич. тредов
[18:59:23] slav0nic: треды полезны когда есть io waiting
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[19:00:56] _lorien: не знаю, я вообще ляпнул, чтобы разговор поддержать, не знаю я ничо :o)
[19:01:04] slav0nic: нал superfcgi погонять, как он по сравнению с флупом
[19:01:09] slav0nic: )
[19:01:16] _lorien: slav0nic, автор утверждает, что флуп хуже :))
[19:01:17] slav0nic: темболее есть права на коммит В)
[19:01:27] slav0nic: ну я тоже писал одну штуку асинзронную
[19:01:30] slav0nic: for fun
[19:01:37] slav0nic: в 2.5 раза шустрее флупа
[19:01:43] _lorien: slav0nic, на хабре недавно один чел выложил ещё один fcgi-wsgi адаптер
[19:01:44] slav0nic: на хеллоуволдах с выводом env
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[19:01:54] _lorien: типа он весь правильный и быстрый, судя по словам :)
[19:02:00] slav0nic: меня fcgi не греет, scgi есть же
[19:02:06] slav0nic: а дай линк
[19:02:07] _lorien: slav0nic, а его nginx умеет?
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[19:02:12] slav0nic: должен
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[19:02:36] _lorien: slav0nic, http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/72444/
[19:04:22] slav0nic: г, на С
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[19:10:20] Муркт: Imbolc: уточним - у тебя многоядерный сервер?
[19:10:33] Imbolc: Неа, одно ядро.
[19:10:45] Муркт: второй вопрос
[19:10:51] Муркт: какого же хера ты ожидаешь ускорения?
[19:11:43] Муркт: с одним ядром два процесса, или два потока, что угодно - не может быть быстрее, чем одна штука
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[19:12:04] Муркт: они ведь не зависают на длительных обработках "хрен-знает-где", всё крутится на этой же машинке
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[19:12:14] _lorien: так мы тестировали же не хеллоу ворол
[19:12:20] _lorien: * волд
[19:12:35] Муркт: _lorien: ну и что? база не на этой машине, а в ста миллисекундах вдали?
[19:12:49] _lorien: ну да, тоже логично :)
[19:13:09] Imbolc: Ну вот к примеру два потока апача должны работать быстрее двух тредов. Потому, что эти треды создавать не нужно. А работает так же.
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[19:13:23] Муркт: блядь
[19:13:34] Муркт: приняли реквест - подёргали его - вытащили из базы что нужно - отдали обратно
[19:13:56] Муркт: покажите мне в этом месте паузу, в которой может вклиниться второй поток или процесс?
[19:14:05] Муркт: нет его, потому с одним потоком/процессом быстрее
[19:14:32] Муркт: Imbolc: ты заметишь оверхед на создании тредов совсем не с 1.1 RPS
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[19:15:21] Imbolc: Идею я понял. Но не понимаю, почему видно свободную память и процессор, если всё это так.
[19:15:51] Imbolc: Мне видится, что большее время уходит на отдачу. Чего-то там и коннекты.
[19:16:00] Imbolc: Поэтому и не видно загрузки.
[19:16:04] Муркт: может быть
[19:16:12] Imbolc: Тогда почему не помогают потоки?
[19:16:21] Муркт: потому что оно именно что отдаётся
[19:16:24] Муркт: :)
[19:16:33] Муркт: ну фиг его знает, чесслово
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[19:16:55] Imbolc: Но вот тоже странно. Канал я вижу. Он совсем даже не забит.
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[19:17:15] Imbolc: Такое чувство, что что-то сжирается полностью. Но вот что - непонятно.
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[19:20:04] Муркт: хард?
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[19:20:59] Imbolc: Его загрузку тоже вижу. Бывает на пару порядков больше.
[19:21:44] Imbolc: Хотя, вижу объём данных. Может, конечно, там что-то читается так неудачно, что тормозит.
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[19:22:06] Imbolc: Но чтобы под разными серверами и разные сайты, как-то маловероятно.
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[20:41:02] pr0ks: В мета классе модели нельзя свои свойства прописывать =(
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[20:41:52] pr0ks: а я хотел наряду с verbose_name ввести переменную, отражающую имя модели в винительном падеже.. дабы в шаблонах обращаться =/
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[20:42:25] pr0ks: как теперь жить
[20:43:22] _lorien: Ну, просто создать атррибут класса? )
[20:43:57] pr0ks: угу
[20:44:22] _lorien: тока это тебе надо класс передавать в шаблоны, получается
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[20:45:13] Imbolc: verbose_name сделать объектом, в __str__ обычная форма, в __str_vin__ винительный падеж :)
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[20:46:01] _lorien: в шаблонах нельзя обращаться к аттрибутам, имя которых начинается с _
[20:46:42] _lorien: я бы тэгом сделал
{% property "box.Box" "vinitelnii_name" %}
[20:46:43] Imbolc: А там и не надо. Там фильтр нужен, очевидно
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[20:47:24] pr0ks: о, идея
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[20:47:25] pr0ks: спасибо
[20:47:45] Муркт: Imbolc: так нельзя сделать.
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[20:56:06] _lorien: о, google app engine научился xmpp, а в конфы там можно постить, не знаете?
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[20:56:39] klichuk: кажись да, сам хочу счас ето посмотреть
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[21:00:36] _lorien: xmpp.MESSAGE_TYPE_GROUPCHAT: a group chat message
...
Note: An app can only receive messages of the "chat" and "normal" types. In particular, this means that apps cannot participate in group chats. An app can otherwise send messages of any of the supported types.
вроде б можно
[21:01:21] klichuk: блия
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[21:01:48] klichuk: да как можно, this means that apps cannot participate in group chats
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[21:02:39] _lorien: ну ты получать не будешь мессаги из группы, а вот слать можешь туда. Я так понял.
[21:03:13] _lorien: ибо в списке поддерживаемых типов для send_message функции есть в том числе и MESSAGE_TYPE_GROUPCHAT
[21:03:29] _lorien: http://code.google.com/intl/ru/appengine/docs/python/xmpp/functions.html - я сюда втыкаю
[21:03:40] klichuk: ну если брать конкретно твой вопрос, то да.
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[21:23:29] _lorien: чё-то не отправляет :-/
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[21:25:27] _lorien: ню вот, на мой JID направило, а в конфу - хренушки
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[21:26:47] klichuk: ну ты зашел то в конфу?
[21:27:08] _lorien: дык нету такой функции для отсылки presense :-/
[21:27:18] klichuk: да ну
[21:27:25] _lorien: http://code.google.com/intl/ru/appengine/docs/python/xmpp/functions.html
вот функции
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[21:28:10] klichuk: get_presence
[21:28:22] klichuk: он презенсом будет получать ответный презенс, я уверен
[21:28:23] _lorien: там правда можно формировать XML в send_message, может так можно послать presense
[21:28:39] klichuk: потому пробуй гет презенс на жид конфы
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[21:28:52] _lorien: jid
The XMPP address (JID) whose presence status to check. Must be the bare JID of a Google Talk user, such as example@gmail.com. Can be a @gmail.com JID, or a JID using a Google Apps domain.
[21:29:28] _lorien: это ограничения на jid функции get_presense, так что по любому не будет работать, хоть я и не понял логики, почему могло бы :)
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[21:30:36] _lorien: я толком не понял ещё как xmpp сервис тестировать, я щас заливаю каждый раз новый код на сервер через appcfg - это гиморно
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[21:31:51] klichuk: ./dev_appserver.py <app_dir>
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[21:33:00] klichuk: http://code.google.com/intl/ru/appengine/docs/python/gettingstarted/devenvironment.html
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[21:33:35] klichuk: но возможно придется что-то докачивать дополнительно
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[21:34:38] _lorien: INFO 2009-10-17 14:31:56,728 xmpp_service_stub.py:74] Sending an XMPP Message:
примерно так работает на localhost :)
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[21:39:12] _lorien: получается, что нельзя в конфу ничо послать т.к. нельзя послать presence сообщение
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[23:05:35] mr.oduvan: народ.. я чтото не понимаю... cython ренерит сишный код
[23:05:49] mr.oduvan: как есть откампилить и "превратить" в бинарник?
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[23:34:57] mr.oduvan: xa4a мож ты подскажеш?
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[23:43:48] red-agent: mr.oduvan, Это уже по-моему переходит вменяемые границы тупости.
[23:44:20] mr.oduvan: red-agent, ооооо... я скучал!!!
[23:44:33] mr.oduvan: мне уже тоже начинает так казаться...
[23:44:36] bobry: :0
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[23:45:01] mr.oduvan: я чегото не понимаю... и из-за этого начинаю выдумывать всякую хрень
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[23:45:37] red-agent: Что тебе не ясно? Код из .pyx транслируетс в .c, сишный сорс.
[23:45:45] red-agent: Берешь gcc и собираешь его.
[23:46:14] mr.oduvan: а брать в левую или правую руку??
[23:46:33] red-agent: Какая разница? Если с головой не дружишь...
[23:46:47] mr.oduvan: ))))))
[23:46:55] mr.oduvan: я про этот код говорб
[23:46:56] mr.oduvan: cython --cplus a1.py
[23:47:16] mr.oduvan: получается один файл
[23:47:20] mr.oduvan: a1.cpp
[23:47:39] red-agent: Ей-богу ктулху уже отобедал.
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[23:48:52] mr.oduvan: наверно ему py кормить нельзя. да?
[23:49:03] mr.oduvan: я не понял, что ты сказал
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