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[03:20:11] feedbot: Язык программирования Python / Абстрактные классы и интерфейсы в Питоне http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/72757/
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[04:20:09] feedbot: I'd like to write a python chat client... http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9vcq7/id_like_to_write_a_python_chat_client/
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[10:56:42] Stanislav Pugachev: луди добрые, помогите) у модели поле - ForeignKey на другую. в одминке когда создаешь элемент - выбираешь поле из списка. и получаешь this field is reuired. чо ни выбираешь все равно ошибка this field is required
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[11:00:42] _lorien: Покажи модели? Может таблицы в бд как-то не соотвествуют моделям?
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[11:04:36] Stanislav Pugachev: http://dumpz.org/13437/
[11:05:02] Stanislav Pugachev: syncdb поможет ? или нада идти вручную смареть чо там не так?
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[11:38:24] wonderfulll: почему когда я делаю pip -E .env install django==1.1.1 кидает ошибку версий а при pip -E .env install -U django всё нормально?
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[11:49:03] Jin: всем добрый день! такой вопрос: кто нибудь сталкивалса с необходимостью программно измерять длину кабеля между хостами?
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[11:49:49] Lolka: Jin: ничего себе, прям как про аниме на канале фрибсд... :)
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[11:49:53] slav0nic: ы
[11:49:59] Jin: ))
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[11:50:18] Lolka: вроде бы какие то интеловские карты умеют, но у них свой софт
[11:50:20] Jin: ну, сравнение конечно несколько не подходит, но близко
[11:50:26] Lolka: и то, там не длинна, там просто тестер программный
[11:50:56] Jin: кхм... просто может по каким либо другим параметрам можно ее посчитать?
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[11:51:21] Lolka: как? по затуханию сигнала?
[11:51:33] Jin: может быть и по затуханию
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[11:52:28] Lolka: почитай http://www.nag.ru/goodies/book/ch7-3.html
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[11:52:51] _lorien: Stanislav Pugachev, не знаю
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[11:55:18] Stanislav Pugachev: гребаный йод )
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[11:57:00] Jin: кхм... полезная статья, но как определить мощьности передатчика и приемника?
[11:58:03] Lolka: может быть, где то в глубине ifconfig'а есть эти значения
[11:58:55] Jin: да дело в том, что прогу надо писать под виндовсами
[11:59:17] Jin: а их ipconfig это не дает точно
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[12:01:10] Jin: все живы?
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[12:03:01] Lolka: нужен даже не ифконфиг... он не на том уровне
[12:03:22] Lolka: нужно что то, что работает на самом первом, физическом уровне, ну, либо сразу над ним
[12:03:32] Lolka: черт его знает, можно ли вообще вытащить подобную инфу
[12:03:33] Stanislav Pugachev: да вы гоните как ето ваще можно посчитать )
[12:03:42] Lolka: ))
[12:03:49] Lolka: тихо, ща запатентуем :)
[12:03:55] Lolka: мы на пороге открытия :)
[12:04:17] Stanislav Pugachev: скажите лучше почему поле постоянно возвращает this field is required в одминке?
[12:04:25] Stanislav Pugachev: у меня уже никаких гребаных мыслей
[12:04:30] tilarids: Stanislav Pugachev: debug?
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[12:04:36] Lolka: код показывал уже?
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[12:04:41] Stanislav Pugachev: та показывал
[12:05:02] tilarids: (ну, почему самый распространённый способ отладки - долгий, внимательный, задумчивый взгляд?)
[12:05:08] tilarids: Stanislav Pugachev: так пройдись отладчиком
[12:05:16] tilarids: сообщение просто так не появится
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[12:06:33] Stanislav Pugachev: tilarids, а ты кстати как дебажишь вообще?
[12:06:34] xa4a: !g pdb отладка приложений
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[12:06:42] Stanislav Pugachev: а
[12:06:43] xa4a: !g pdb отладка приложений python
[12:06:45] Stanislav Pugachev: ясно
[12:06:50] xa4a: !g pdb отладка приложений python -emacs
[12:07:12] Stanislav Pugachev: та я думал може чо другое уже придумали )
[12:07:21] tilarids: Stanislav Pugachev: а лучше не придумаешь
[12:07:26] xa4a: ещё werkzeug придумали
[12:07:54] tilarids: я вот недавно узнал, что в gdb есть какие-то фишки для JIT компиляции. Вот думаю, можно ли туда С++ JIT приколбасить, чтобы gdb был похож на pdb
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[12:08:33] Stanislav Pugachev: !g werkzeug
[12:08:58] xa4a: !g werkzeug site:piranha.org.ua
[12:09:32] xa4a: Stanislav Pugachev: http://piranha.org.ua/blog/2007/12/16/django-debug/
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[12:09:48] Stanislav Pugachev: ща посмарю спасибо
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[12:10:19] xa4a: о, чо нашёл http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pudb
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[13:11:27] Муркт: хм, может сделать в ЖЖ замену для ру-питона немодерируемого? а то задолбал спамом
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[13:11:56] piranha: а шо толку?
[13:12:02] piranha: тебе пользу приносит ру-питон?
[13:12:11] Муркт: та отож
[13:12:14] Муркт: =)
[13:12:15] piranha: туда пишут тупо бесполезные, бесперспективные вопросы
[13:12:22] piranha: +неинтересные
[13:12:31] Муркт: скучные
[13:12:34] piranha: точно
[13:12:49] Муркт: пойду отпишусь
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[13:18:42] _lorien: su_python :D
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[13:19:41] Муркт: _lorien: я тоже об этом подумал
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[13:21:23] Ляпатяпа: piranha, http://piranha.org.ua/media/img/werkzeug-debug.png
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[13:28:11] _lorien: piranha, а чем крут nginx-catap? )
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[13:28:15] Мозгошредер: Ляпатяпа, 404 %(
[13:28:18] _lorien: в смысле именно для тебя
[13:28:34] Ляпатяпа: ну дык я и говорю, 404
[13:28:57] Ляпатяпа: http://piranha.org.ua/blog/2007/12/16/django-debug/ тут ссылка на эту картинку есть
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[13:33:51] piranha: _lorien: всякими фичами
[13:33:55] piranha: хз, просто по приколу поставил )
[13:34:20] piranha: Ляпатяпа: ага, я забыл статику перетащить при переезде :(((
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[15:08:31] wonderfulll: в чём можеть быть проблема в одном проекте чё-то Flatpages не работает, мидлваре добавлена в конец и аликуха добавлена соответственная, кидает Page not found (404)
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[15:10:13] fake4me: а в урлах все прописано?
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[15:10:56] wonderfulll: а что а урлах пропмсывать, я же через мидлваре?
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[15:14:14] kawaikunee: а сайт что, упал?
[15:14:31] kawaikunee: Пишет "503 - Service Not Available"
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[15:17:22] fake4me: wonderfulll: простите, я не знаю о чем вы, еще не дорос до этого, я думал вы о django. у меня возникали подобные ошибки если не рописать нужные рулсы в urls.py, а что такое "мидлваре" я не знаю
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[15:17:56] wonderfulll: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/flatpages/#ref-contrib-flatpages
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[15:25:20] _lorien: wonderfulll, воткни в middleware print и проверь что до неё доходит дело, если таки доходит дело, то смотри, почему middleware не может найти объект в БД
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[15:26:42] wonderfulll: я уже свой модуль написал, а то времени нет разобраться )
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[16:20:11] feedbot: Центр иностранных языков “Весь мир” на django-cms 2 http://markeev.labwr.ru/2009/10/blog-post_19.html
[OS X] What's the best way to keep your python modules up to date? http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9vi1r/os_x_whats_the_best_way_to_keep_your_python/
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[16:41:53] kawaikunee: получилось FCKeditor приделать к Pylons. как я рад))
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[16:53:42] maxp: kawaikunee: а какие там проблемы с приделыванием?
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[16:56:57] maxp: точнее меня интересуют какие плюсы относительно, скажем, джанги
[16:57:13] kawaikunee: гибчее
[16:57:24] maxp: ага, это я ощутил
[16:57:35] maxp: а проблемы какие самые насущные?
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[16:58:24] kawaikunee: Очень мало документации на русском. Практически нету вообще.
[16:58:31] maxp: да и фиг бы с ней
[16:58:44] kawaikunee: Несколько компонентов, к каждому надо свою доку читать
[16:58:53] kawaikunee: в джанге все в кучку
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[16:58:56] kawaikunee: в кучке
[16:59:03] maxp: с routes или там, не знаю, с unicode ничего не косячится?
[16:59:18] maxp: у джанги ниже порог вхождения, ага.
[16:59:19] kawaikunee: нет, coding пиши везде и вот щасте
[16:59:42] maxp: ну я там видал даже в мако темплейтах рекумендуют
[16:59:46] kawaikunee: да
[16:59:49] maxp: ## coding:
[16:59:50] kawaikunee: везде просто
[16:59:53] maxp: вставлять
[16:59:58] kawaikunee: именно так
[17:00:15] maxp: а как тебе sqlalchemy по сравнению с django orm ?
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[17:00:25] kawaikunee: пока что не встретил ничего непреодолимого. Гибкость все позволяет поправить
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[17:00:46] kawaikunee: Со слов знакомого - в django orm легче
[17:00:54] kawaikunee: я сам не знаком
[17:01:06] kawaikunee: не добрался до этого
[17:01:16] maxp: он там легче, пока чего-нибудь забавного не потребуется :)
[17:01:42] kawaikunee: алхимия сложная порой но опять же - гибкая
[17:01:49] kawaikunee: все я домой)
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[19:08:14] Муркт: што это было?
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[19:10:05] red-agent: Муркт, Очередное заблудшее кса.
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[19:20:11] feedbot: Web Developer at Discovery Channel http://djangogigs.com/gigs/730/
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[19:25:51] red-agent: Муркт, Зато сразу видно у кого спермотоксикоз...
[19:26:14] Муркт: ясное дело - у кого что болит
[19:26:20] Муркт: палишься
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[19:55:48] kawaikunee: кто-нибудь знает, что с сайтом?
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[19:58:31] slav0nic: уже ничё) упало
[19:59:14] slav0nic: форум работает же, чё ещё надо )
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[20:01:41] _lorien: чото раздел джанге на форуме сдох, я туда захожу пару дней, только один чел что-то странное спрашивает и всё :)
[20:02:15] slav0nic: выходные были)
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[20:05:52] sevenov: http://python.su/job/63/ :DD
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[20:12:00] kawaikunee: смотрю в django разделе полно вопросов по orm
[20:12:05] sevenov: kawaikunee, милости просим.
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[20:31:53] Муркт: sevenov: > если для вас деньги не главное - милости просим
[20:31:58] Муркт: явно работа за еду
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[20:34:31] sevenov: Муркт, а я не смог дочитать.
[20:34:45] jedgar: не за еду, а за бесплатно
[20:34:46] Муркт: а зря
[20:34:59] Муркт: jedgar: точно неизвестно :)
[20:35:06] jedgar: я спросил :)
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[20:35:21] jedgar: я бы и за еду на питоне поработал бы
[20:35:32] Муркт: jedgar: типа доля в проЭкте что ли?
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[20:35:54] jedgar: Муркт: я только один вопрос задал, про оплату :)
[20:35:57] sevenov: нахуй долю в проэкте быдла?
[20:36:11] Муркт: sevenov: s/?/!
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[20:36:34] sevenov: Муркт, да, можно и так.
[20:36:47] sevenov: Даёшь долю гугла!
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[20:42:33] Муркт: sevenov: ничего сложного - просто купи парочку акций
[20:42:49] sevenov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkOdV6BEKkA
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[22:55:13] xa4a: http://reebok.com.ua/404.jpg
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[23:02:09] Большой Лис: :D
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[23:02:54] sevenov: #327177 Бородатая? о__О
[23:03:08] sevenov: бляяя, да что ж я сегодня табы-то путаю
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