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[11:41:26] Ляпатяпа: sum(map(function, iterator))
[11:41:35] Ляпатяпа: есть смысл переписывать на reduce?
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[11:48:09] tilarids: Ляпатяпа: нет
[11:48:15] tilarids: только сделай imap
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[11:50:28] Ляпатяпа: Отличие imap от map в том, что для преждевременно завершившихся итераторов None не подставляется.
[11:50:42] Ляпатяпа: что-то мне не кажется, что мне это нужно
[11:51:50] tilarids: !pydoc itertools.imap
[11:51:56] tilarids: !pydoc map
[11:52:14] tilarids: (прошу прощения за спам)
[11:52:18] tilarids: Ляпатяпа: ^ вот и сравни
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[11:54:35] Ляпатяпа: в моем случае разница только в том, что к sum попадет итератор, а не список, так?
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[11:55:13] Ляпатяпа: тоесть я могу немного выиграть в потреблении памяти
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[11:55:54] tilarids: Ляпатяпа: и в скорости тоже
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[11:56:49] Ляпатяпа: окей, если учесть что в будущем итератор будет давать сотни четыре значений из базы, то будет imap
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[11:59:31] mishok13: ОКЕЙ, ТУТ НУЖЕН RABBITMQ
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[12:06:27] Ляпатяпа: вайвайвай, зачем сарказм, слушай? для 20 объектов разницы нет, для 400 можно грамотная работа с итераторами разумней
[12:08:59] mishok13: да я просто вспомнил как тут кто-то нахваливал очередную nosql базу за быструю работу с семью сотнями обьектов :)
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[12:09:23] mishok13: грамотная работа с итераторами в питоне всегда выигрышнее
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[12:11:30] Typhon: емнип, Ляпатяпа и хвалил mongodb, не? :)
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[12:13:09] mishok13: ну тогда сарказм был законным
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[13:36:35] лорд Морфий: Прювет !
[13:36:48] лорд Морфий: а никто не подскажет, какой лучшее форум юзать с djangocms2 ???
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[13:37:59] лорд Морфий: чтобы встраивалось наиболее просто и кошерно
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[13:43:29] slav0nic: самый простой - django-forum
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[14:17:28] Ляпатяпа: In [20]: int(1.15 * 100 - 100)
Out[20]: 14
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[14:18:42] Typhon: Ляпатяпа: что-то не так?
[14:18:49] tilarids: Ляпатяпа: только не говори, что тебя это удивляет
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[14:19:13] Ляпатяпа: удивляет
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[14:19:47] Ляпатяпа: как 115 процентов превратилось в 14?
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[14:20:02] Ляпатяпа: ну всмысле прибавка +14
[14:20:03] AlexKiriukha: Налог или скрытые платежи
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[14:20:17] maxp: >>> 1.15*100
114.99999999999999
>>> 1.15*100 - 100
14.999999999999986
>>> round(1.15*100 - 100)
15.0
>>>

[14:20:41] Ляпатяпа: да я уже сделал с раундом
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[14:20:53] maxp: а что удивляет-то?
[14:21:03] maxp: первый раз столкнулся с float ?
[14:21:46] Ляпатяпа: а то что остальные значения - 1.05, 1.1, 1.2, 1.25, 1.3 нормально отображаются при такой формуле
[14:22:11] Typhon: A floating point
| argument will be truncated towards zero
[14:22:51] maxp: >>> 1.1*100
110.00000000000001
>>>

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[14:23:23] maxp: я, все-таки, порекомендую почитать что-нибудь про float
[14:23:39] maxp: и вообще про представления чисел в компьютере
[14:24:07] maxp: откуда берется ошибка округления, почему она может быть как в плюс, так и в минус и т.п.
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[14:24:37] tilarids: Ляпатяпа: хочешь точных вычислений - юзай Decimal
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[14:24:51] maxp: там же про то, почему на надо сравнивать при помощи равенства
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[14:24:55] maxp: float1 == float2
[14:24:56] tilarids: оно как раз для денежных масс
[14:27:54] maxp: == "НЕ надо сравнивать"
[14:28:11] maxp: а Decimal полезная штука
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[14:47:33] Izvr: как перевести правильно ИНН, КПП и БИК
[14:47:49] Izvr: я уже обгуглися и прочитал все что нашел
[14:47:53] Izvr: везде по разному пишут
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[14:49:59] Darth Лис: КПП — Контрольно-Пропускной Пункт?
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[14:50:20] _lorien: перевести или разшифровать?
[14:51:11] Typhon: Коммунистическая партия Польши
[14:52:12] _lorien: Комитет Пьяных Плотников
[14:52:45] _lorien: Келья Просветлённого Пуританина
[14:52:55] Darth Лис: Путиранина
[14:53:00] Darth Лис: :D
[14:53:42] Typhon: http://sokr.ru/КПП/
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[14:54:10] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (классовый пост-пролетарий)
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[14:55:12] Typhon: бик -- банковский идентификационный код, инн - индивидуальный номер налогоплательщика, кпп - код причины постановки на учет
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[14:55:38] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (ну хоть не "косилка-плющилка прямоточная")
[14:55:57] _lorien: Клевер Приятно Пахучий
[14:56:15] _lorien: Коровки Покорно Пасущеся
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[15:07:05] Izvr: перевести на английский
[15:07:06] Izvr: чтобы в модели назвать поле
[15:07:24] Typhon: никак не переводи
[15:07:48] Izvr: типа сделать INN KPP BIK
[15:07:57] Izvr: выглядит ужасающе
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[15:13:28] RaD: чтоб флеш создавал ожидающий сокет и по принятию данных дёргал JS
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[16:11:21] Jin is now до запуска осталось. 1 час...
[16:11:28] Jin: всем привет
[16:11:38] Jin: есть кто по pyQt
[16:11:40] Jin: ?
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[16:13:06] Typhon: Jin топик
[16:13:58] bobry: lol
[16:14:04] wonderfulll: пиши вопрос мож кто и найдётся
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[16:14:57] Jin: ну, это просто надо в коде видеть
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[16:15:47] bobry: Jin: dumpz.org
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[16:19:20] Jin: просто почему то не отрисовываются ни кнопки не прочие объекты
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[16:20:26] Jin: http://dumpz.org/13564/
[16:22:31] Jin: что скажите?
[16:22:43] AlexKiriukha: app._exec() может нужно
[16:22:53] AlexKiriukha: Или exec_(), точно не помню
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[16:24:03] Jin: не помогает
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[16:24:41] Jin: еще что подскажите?
[16:24:58] Typhon: доку почитать
[16:25:00] Jin: просто уже весь день ее дрочу - никак не пойму в чем проблема
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[16:25:06] Jin: какую?
[16:25:13] Typhon: по qt, pyqt
[16:25:21] Jin: читаю доку - не помогает
[16:25:29] Jin: смотрю примеры - не лучше
[16:25:33] bobry: app.exec_()
[16:25:45] Jin: да, так я уже делалbobry
[16:25:48] bobry: однозначно
[16:25:53] bobry: что происходит?
[16:25:54] Jin: bobry: не помогает
[16:26:01] Jin: просто окно
[16:26:02] bobry: без appexec он должен ошибку выдавать
[16:26:03] Jin: пустое
[16:26:03] bobry: было?
[16:26:11] Jin: нет ошибок
[16:26:21] bobry: вашу ж мать..
[16:26:23] Jin: только пустое окно открывает и все
[16:26:32] bobry: Jin там по другому эти ui фаилы используются
[16:26:45] Jin: кхм...
[16:26:49] Jin: bobry: конкретнее
[16:27:05] bobry: секунду
[16:27:16] AlexKiriukha: В доке вроде были примеры
[16:27:25] bobry: да, точно были
[16:27:28] Jin: да есть блин приаеры
[16:27:39] Jin: тока не понятно что вы хотите сказать
[16:28:18] Jin: в примерах с pyqt есть примеры, но что то не жарко
[16:28:45] bobry: d = QDialog()
d._ui = UiDialog()
d._ui = setupUi(self)
d.show()
[16:28:48] bobry: как то так
[16:28:59] bobry: по идее эту часть с _ui лучше засунуть в __init__
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[16:30:28] bobry: суть в том, что pyuic генерирует класс с единственным методом setupUi, который в свою очередь принимает другой класс/объект и добавляет ему нужные атрибуты: кнопочки, панельки - все что было в .ui описано
[16:32:24] bobry: Jin: и кстати не кошерно писать код в сгенерированых файлах, там же написано в заголовке :)
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[19:31:46] огыешсук: по питону?
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[21:07:34] _lorien: угу
[21:07:50] bobry: _lorien: 5/5 ?
[21:07:59] _lorien: шо?
[21:08:03] bobry: набрал
[21:08:04] _lorien: не :)
[21:08:07] _lorien: там 40 вопросов
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[21:08:13] _lorien: у меня 4.1 балл
[21:08:13] bobry: я про баллы)
[21:08:15] bobry: аа..
[21:08:19] bobry: я недавно отлажал на 3.9
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[21:10:31] _lorien: меня там напрягает, что деньги приходят через две недели после работы, вот приходили бы они каждый день :)
[21:10:52] bobry: :))
[21:11:01] _lorien: а я такой человек, очень ленивый, и меня это очень напрягает, в результате я нифига не работаю и туплю и туплю итуплю :)
[21:11:23] огыешсук: same shit
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[21:11:45] xa4a: какие ещё ощущения от одеска?.
[21:12:20] _lorien: xa4a, честно говоря, там просто моему работодателю удобно платить деньгу через него, а познакомились мы и о работе договорились без одеска
[21:12:46] _lorien: а вообще мне там нравится программка, которая скриншоты делает, какой никакой контроль, на работе сосредотачивает
[21:12:57] _lorien: то что по карте деньги получать можно - тоже удобно достаточно
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[21:15:47] _lorien: Ну а так я делаю ставки, пока никто не откликнулся ещё. Вернее недавно был шанс поработать, но я испугался, что больно система большая и отказался :)
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[21:21:20] sevenov: как там в джангоадминке можно сделать такой вот хитрый инлайн:
Модели:
Foo <- (fk) Bar <- (fk) Baz.

В итоге, чтобы при добавлении нового Foo, было N форм для добавления Bar связанным с Baz (пусть кол-во будет M). Как бы такой вложеный инлайн.
[21:22:43] _lorien: ну бар как добавлять это понятно, надо читать доку про inline объекты в доке про админку, а что за baz? Как этовообще непонятно
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[21:24:46] sevenov: Ну вот смотри:

форма для Foo:
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1 форма для Bar
m форм для Baz
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....
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N форма для Bar
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[21:24:54] sevenov: Я хочу что-то фантастическое?
[21:25:42] _lorien: sevenov, тебе в bdsm@cjr :D
[21:25:49] sevenov: :DD
[21:27:34] sevenov: Хм. А что если сделать форму для Bar, которая будет тянуть поля и для Baz, типа формсета или как-то так. А потом в определении инлайна для Bar вставить form/formset.
[21:27:36] sevenov: бррр
[21:28:06] bobry: ребят, у кого нить еще на jabber.ru с гмыла сообщения не приходят?
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[21:37:03] xa4a: sevenov: а что, если создавать каждый Bar во всплывающем окне с базами?
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[21:39:38] sevenov: xa4a, ну можно и так, да. Но это тоже по дефлоту не реально?
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[21:42:14] xa4a: не знаю
[21:42:41] xa4a: могу сказать, что если при создании объекта ему сначала детей делать, то немножко секса выйдет
[21:43:07] xa4a: тоесть делать детей до самого объекта
[21:43:07] sevenov: пофиг, напишу лучше комманду для загрузки из файлика. Придумаю какой нибудь локальный простенький ML.
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[21:43:46] xa4a: бля. получается если делать детей, то секс выходит, а потом только родители появляются
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[21:44:09] sevenov: xa4a, да ну нафиг такой секс.
[21:44:16] xa4a: я вообще для этого контейнер использовал
[21:44:19] piranha: нафиг нужны такие дети? ;)
[21:44:25] sevenov: piranha, :D
[21:44:55] xa4a: я ж и говорю, что ахтунг
[21:44:58] sevenov: И вообще, лучше уж тогда создать Foo, а потом спокойно добавлять к нему Bar+Baz
[21:45:05] _lorien: ыть, сколько людей то набежало :)
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[21:45:10] xa4a: приходится их хз куда удочерять, пока родители не придут
[21:45:42] sevenov: xa4a, почему именно удочерять? зы: такого слова вообще нет ;-))
[21:45:57] sevenov: Щас всем расскажу, что xa4a хочет себе дочек.
[21:46:14] xa4a: sevenov: я этим и занимался
[21:46:35] sevenov: xa4a, на рыбалку дочек водил?
[21:46:39] piranha: он удочерил еë… потом еще раз, и еще раз
[21:46:44] xa4a: ну у меня там фотки были, которые аяксом загружались до того, как сам объект засабмичен
[21:46:46] piranha: удочерение продолжалось до самого утра
[21:46:53] piranha: пока она не решилась уотцевать его
[21:47:03] sevenov: xa4a, а, ты спрашивал как-то, да.
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[21:47:17] sevenov: piranha, уотцовствовать :)
[21:47:18] xa4a: тогда я решил всех детей сливать в контейнер ;)
[21:47:27] piranha: sevenov: шото такое ;)))
[21:47:28] sevenov: ... в мусорный и раздавать
[21:47:43] sevenov: piranha, ну уотцевать как-то не звучит =)
[21:48:00] xa4a: а контейнер уже потом - как получится. или в мусорник, или если таки родитель найдётся, то ему отдавал
[21:49:12] sevenov: вообще, моя задача секса не стоит. Тыкать-то только я буду.
[21:49:21] sevenov: а, ну может еще человечик.
[21:50:47] xa4a: гг http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/epic-fail-duck-ad-placement.jpg
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[22:10:28] Большой Лис: http://rightjs.org/comparison
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[22:15:02] _lorien: отчество переводится как patronymic, а нет ли чего более понятно? первый раз такое слово вижу :) я про ФИО связку говорю
[22:16:19] xa4a: Middle name
[22:16:34] xa4a: !ruen отчество
[22:16:44] xa4a: !trans отчество
[22:17:00] xa4a: !enru middle name
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[22:17:30] _lorien: !enru third name
[22:17:38] _lorien: :D
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[22:17:53] xa4a: это google translate
[22:17:58] _lorien: угу
[22:18:10] _lorien: !enru Putin
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[22:18:29] xa4a: !projidea
[22:18:48] Большой Лис: !projname
[22:18:58] Большой Лис: !projname
[22:19:05] Большой Лис: !projname
[22:19:16] Большой Лис: тьху
[22:19:25] Большой Лис: херь какая-то
[22:19:31] _lorien: !чочо
[22:19:32] Большой Лис: /me дал пинка silent_bob
[22:19:47] _lorien: !projnameчочо
[22:19:58] Большой Лис: работай! пылесос проклятый
[22:20:06] Большой Лис: !projnamwe
[22:20:11] Большой Лис: !projname
[22:20:28] _lorien: !trans projname
[22:20:38] Большой Лис: _lorien, project name
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[22:22:28] _lorien: блин, модуль для профилирования называется profile, а ятак любил это имя юзатьдля профиль приложения джанговского
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[22:22:46] _lorien: я думаю, хуй с ним с профилирователем %-)
[22:24:12] Большой Лис: :D
[22:24:30] _lorien: а вы как поступаете? Кто-тоже должен был делать приложение profile, неужели никто?
[22:26:29] xa4a: настоящие мужыки суют свой класс в питоновский профайл
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[22:27:47] _lorien: ну не страшно, если захочу попрофилироваться, изменю sys.path перед импортом profile
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[22:40:05] _lorien: а если я хочу в форму (там уже всяческие поля есть), если я хочу туда как бы воткнуть поля из как бы формы (Form: Meta: model=Foo, fields=[a,b,c]) как бы это сделать? :)
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[22:46:44] sevenov: _lorien, костыльщик )
[22:47:23] _lorien: почему? Мне надо вообще вот что: есть форма длярегистрации (логин, пароль, капча), мне надо добавить туда поля которые попадут в профиль пользователя.
[22:47:47] _lorien: Вообще есть такая форма для редактирования профиля, я её сделал через ModelForm и не понимаю, как оттуда поля можно взять для формы регистрации :)
[22:47:58] _lorien: у меня пока в регистрации так: second_name = Profile._meta.get_field('second_name').formfield()
[22:48:43] xa4a: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/modelforms/
[22:49:03] xa4a: может что-то, связанное с modelformset_factory
[22:49:13] xa4a: (просто тоже хз что делает, как и то, что ты хочешь)
[22:49:16] xa4a: :)
[22:50:47] _lorien: :D
[22:51:11] _lorien: не, formset это когда надо много объектов добавить одинаковых (вроде бы, я не делал так :))
[22:51:21] xa4a: /me потыкал sevenov
[22:51:38] xa4a: ты там про bdsm спрашивал. может тебе подойдёт modelformset_factory?
[22:51:57] sevenov: xa4a, не работает, пробовал уже.
[22:52:20] sevenov: в смысле, втыкать лень
[22:55:13] _lorien: вредно ночью код писать, назвал функцию __save__ и удивляюсь, чо не работает ничо :)
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[23:00:05] xa4a: можно вместо этого о вечном поговорить
[23:00:19] xa4a: вот я случайно начал читать о формате wav/pcm
[23:00:36] xa4a: там пишут, что файл хранит значения амплитуд волн звука в периоды квантовани
[23:00:41] xa4a: я
[23:01:12] xa4a: не стыкуется со школьными представлениями о звуке, которые утверждают, что амплитуда волны задаёт громкость, а тон задаётся частотой
[23:01:30] xa4a: почему в wav амплитуда, а не частота хранится?
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[23:03:48] sevenov: А есть че для джанги для всяких плюсиков, минусиков постам? Типа django-voting но как-то попроще, а то много лишнего.
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[23:05:08] xa4a: sevenov: был один сайтик..)
[23:05:16] xa4a: на котором было реализовано
[23:05:42] sevenov: xa4a, да их много :)
[23:06:08] sevenov: блин, писать лень, а говносайтик слепить нужно.
[23:06:14] xa4a: itquest посмотри ;)
[23:07:04] sevenov: xa4a, да там же лажово было, хардкодом )
[23:07:07] Spider84: Привет всем . Почему при кодировании русской строки в utf у меня пост оянно вылезает UnicodEncodeError?
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[23:07:23] xa4a: Spider84: ты что-то делаешь не так
[23:07:26] xa4a: код покажи
[23:08:48] Spider84: pp=j.decode('utf-8') добавлял вторым параметром ignore - не помогло
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[23:08:58] xa4a: очевидно
[23:09:06] xa4a: потому, что decode не кодирует в utf
[23:09:14] xa4a: а декодирует из utf-8
[23:09:16] Typhon: ты не понимаешь, что делаешь ^_^
[23:09:19] bobry: эм..
[23:09:21] xa4a: *utf-8 например
[23:09:24] xa4a: !wtf unicode
[23:09:31] bobry: а не наоборот?
[23:09:55] slav0nic: может кто-то внятно сказать что лучше treebeard/mptt ?
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[23:10:05] xa4a: bobry: utf-8 - кодировка. можно юникод закодировать кодировкой. а можно декодировать из кодировки
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[23:10:13] xa4a: в общем тоже линк последний
[23:10:25] bobry: щас почитаю, а то что то у меня путаница в голове
[23:10:40] bobry: !help wtf
[23:10:45] Spider84: читал эту сттаью - полезно но там мало практического
[23:11:15] xa4a: Spider84: там теория
[23:11:17] Typhon: http://piranha.org.ua/blog/2009/07/21/unicode-in-python2x/#comments на русском кратко, если что
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[23:11:27] bobry: а silent_bob кстати кто писал?
[23:11:34] xa4a: bobry: моё
[23:11:46] bobry: xa4a: а код можно где нибудь глянуть?
[23:11:51] bobry: меня часть с логированием интересует
[23:12:15] xa4a: часть с логированием - "тупо в лоб" :)
[23:12:16] xa4a: ща
[23:12:37] xa4a: http://bitbucket.org/xa4a/xapy/src/tip/processors/chat_log.py
[23:13:49] bobry: спасибо) у меня просто там куча <presence> лишних
[23:13:51] bobry: это раздражает
[23:14:07] bobry: вау, couchdb :)
[23:14:41] xa4a: да, когда-то логи складывались туда, была симпатичная аякс-мордочка с полнотекстным поиском)
[23:14:54] bobry: а глянуть можно на результат?)
[23:14:59] bobry: или они нигде не хранятся сейчас?
[23:15:08] bobry: вот я тоже хочу ajax и поиск :)
[23:15:35] xa4a: гхм
[23:15:37] xa4a: ща посмотрю
[23:16:57] xa4a: сама морда осталась на http://xa4a.org.ua/logs-ng/
[23:17:04] xa4a: а база, вроде, загнулась
[23:17:16] xa4a: во время одного из изменения форматов хранения
[23:18:22] xa4a: хм. интересно. попробую восстановить
[23:18:44] bobry: хм, а у тебя не было проблемы с presenc'ами?
[23:18:56] Spider84: всетаки decode кодирует в utf
[23:18:57] xa4a: каких, например?
[23:19:04] xa4a: Spider84: не ври
[23:19:16] xa4a: .decode - декодирует из utf
[23:19:26] xa4a: .encode - кодирует в utf
[23:19:33] Typhon: Spider84, не путаешь utf и unicode ?
[23:19:38] bobry: просто они приходят гады даже когда пользователь уже в конференции, и никак не получается их отсеять, я еще могу понять смену статуса, но status может и отсутствовать
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[23:20:11] Spider84: может быть
[23:20:31] xa4a: bobry: ну так.. приходят - значит статус меняется
[23:20:57] Typhon: Spider84, http://piranha.org.ua/blog/2009/07/21/unicode-in-python2x/
[23:21:15] bobry: xa4a: щас еще раз посмотрю, вроде как он нефига не меняется
[23:21:18] xa4a: http://xa4a.org.ua/logs/pythonua@conference.jabber.ru/2009/10/23.html
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[23:21:37] xa4a: да.. местами бывает пара одинаковых подряд
[23:22:02] xa4a: хотя они одинаковые по статусу. может внутри там ещё что-то отличается
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[23:22:27] bobry: надо смотреть
[23:23:02] xa4a: сейчас couchdb не приделаю, т.к. лень питон прикручивать туда. но там же в репе бота есть processors/couchdb.js - вьюхи, которые использовал
[23:23:34] bobry: окей, спасибо
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[23:28:50] RaD: re, народ, а чем в питоне посылать post запрос на сервер?
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[23:29:18] xa4a: httplib
[23:29:35] xa4a: или urllib.urlopen c fhuevtynjv data
[23:29:39] cutwater: urllib
[23:29:40] xa4a: аргументом
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[23:30:12] Typhon: http://rs368.rapidshare.com/files/133728150/0126339511_ProgPrag.rar кто-нибудь может скачать и выложить на сендспейс или к себе на сервак, рапида затрахала, 3 часа скачать не могу (
[23:30:25] RaD: пасиб
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[23:47:23] slav0nic: Typhon, ща попробую
[23:47:38] Typhon: slav0nic, спасибо, ссправился :)
[23:47:50] Typhon: книжку, кстати, очень рекомендовали )
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